Eddygourdo:
ur supervisor would know who u are, if he believes you to be the victim, he will get others to fight for you. If she was beaten it's another issue cos no lecturer had the right to beat a student

MarieSucre:


I like how you treat issue with the innocence of a child. THE WORLD IS F**KING EVIL PLACE FOR YOUR INFO.

Eddygourdo:
listen dear, the innocence of a child thing is abit overated especially in this age. If a student was out rightly rude to a lecturer and he decided to behave at her level by wickedness, it only fair. She isn't the most beautiful girl nor is she the only girl. This is a federal university that has at least 100 In a class. How come na only her waka come. Yes the world is an evil place, but people rarely help matters by their behaviour. If a lady tells me today she was raped, I always wait for the full story before jumping on the band wagon of criticism. I am not of the opinion that some people are designated aggressors while others are victims. Eg the lecturer and students situation, the police and motorist situation. It's too stereotyped

MarieSucre:


What does beauty or being the only girl in a place have to do with anything. Are all the raped women the most beautiful? Are the robbery victims Tue richest men or women? Did all the people killed in riots deserve it? The same logic applies to all of them.

You wait to hear the other side of the story or you prefer that your silence weighs in with the oppressors.

HERE'S HOW YOUR LOGIC GOES--- I am also waiting to hear the other of the side story from Biafra. I don't care that killed 3 million Igbos'. They probably deserved it.

My friend nothing justifies anything. I hope when you're in a tight situation too. Someone does not say the same thing to you too.

Eddygourdo:
even the Biafrans understand the angle the northerners came from. We know what hurts us most about the war. In every situation you must look at both sides of an issue no matter how hurt the complaint is. With ur logic, first to report na him win case, the theif who tried shooting but was given jungle justice because his gun jammed. You will always listen to victims cos they report first. Most times the perceived victims are the persecutors. I can give you examples upon examples. But I believe u understand my angle

MarieSucre:


Which of the Biafrans understand the angle of the Northerners?
is the ones who were shot dead on the battle field? No maybe it's the ones who had their homes blown up and their village turned to smoking dust? I think I'm wrong again, maybe it's the ones who were raped multiple times by the invading soldiers and had to watch their children run around with Kwashiorkor? Which of them, pls tell me which of them understand the angle of the northerners.

Anyway at the end of the post, she told him to refute all she has said. Are you he?

Eddygourdo:
I am not he. But I refuse to follow the band wagon. In war everything is almost fair. That's why war is bad. The coup was played out as an igbo affair which it wasn't. To make matters worse. The southeastern premier was spared, to make matters worse most northerners weren't involved in the coup plans though a few were. They retaliated for perceived injustice. At that moment you can't fault either party. When the second pogrom happened and the war that ensued. That was genocide on the Igbos. But initially wasn't so, ask around and you will see the marginalisation that exists today with the Igbos wasn't prominent then. Infact the Igbos were high flyers compared to others in the army, police and civil service. So my dear. You can never get the right story till you hear both sides. If you cane home and met ur mum weeping with a bloodied eye. Someone like you will take sides immediately without waiting to here the full Gist in order to make a more informed decision. Look at Syria people are dying daily, but in brokering peace every party must be represented, nobody will be left out simply cos he killed more people

MarieSucre:


Its easy to say this from the comfort of your flat in Gwagwalada, behind your high tech Smart phone. Why not go to Syria and live for a while and then come and start making excuses for Isis, if even Mother Theresa will not resurrect to slaughter you herself.

Eddygourdo:
hahahahahaha, funny you. See dear everybody has an explanation for everything. That includes a bad thing. Even boko boys have an explanation. Y you think am the said lecturer is baffling. But I understand how students can be, especially the rotten ones who feel they have arrived. They situation would not have been handled that way if there isn't more that meets the eyes. Or are you saying there should be no repercussions for actions?

MarieSucre:


So someone did something horrible but we should seat down and listen to their explanation. Clap for yourself.

But I also understand how lecturers can be. The ones who think their demi-gods and should be worshipped.

Eddygourdo:
ha, better change this ur perception else I pity ur sons. You will always spank the hell out of them because you refused to ask questions or listen to the full story once your crying daughter comes with allegations.

Biko learn it. Very important oh. You must wait to listen to both sides of a story before you firm an opinion. Am sure you watch nollywood. Observe how the elders there do it.

By the way have u done youth service

MarieSucre:


Abegiiii. Stop playing the victim here. Are you not advocating I should spank the girl too. mtchewwww

Eddygourdo:
I am advocating you ask what's wrong, after both have explained. Then you could spank the girl

MarieSucre:


Its too late to play the neutral game. You stated at one point that "You were part of the university system" and later "that some students like to feel they have arrived". Suddenly you're all for hearing both sides. Give me a break jo.

Eddygourdo:
yes na. The gurl said her story, I intend to listen to the story of the lecturer before building an opinion. Then can I know who is adding pepper. Who told lies. Who was a demi God and who was a rude student. My reference to understanding the university system is that. Students can lie for Africa. You could catch one with microchips, yet you will see how the same student will tell stories of how u victimised them. Na me say carry ngbo? I ask again mam. Have you served yet

MarieSucre:


No I have not. And lecturers can frame for Africa and just like the politicians. There is a whole system of HOD's, Dean's and fellow colleagues to back them.

Eddygourdo:
if only u understand how a typical university is structured you will understand the caucus issue. All lecturers in a department are never of same mind. They exist in caucus. Thus u can always only get the support of ur caucus. While the rest will be in opposition. My question is how come all the caucus were against the girl. One thing lecturers do not stand for is disrespectful behaviour. They will all gang up and deal with you ruthlessly. This if the girl was disrespectful, are you saying they were wrong in dealing with her?

MarieSucre:


Your whole post has shown that the neutrality you claim in the last minute after I called you out is a lie. Lecturer in disguise. Pls give me a break. Why should a lecturer go out to defend a girl they don't know. Is Nigeria not a country of mind-your-business. Isn't it possible that the said lecturer is powerful enough and can influence others? Are you saying that it is right that they punish for a hypothetical disrespect? So you have already concluded that she was rude? Neutral my foot!!

Eddygourdo:
from her description, maybe you should read the story again. She admitted to arguing with the man. Wat does that tell you. What do you mean by hypothetical disrespect. Biko teach me

MarieSucre:


I meant. You're already asking if it is not right that she should be punished for "disrespecting" her lecturer. You and your fake neutrality already assumes she was disrespectful.

Say she was arguing with the lecturer (which is not clear in her writeup except to you off course). That means let's all pull out belts and whip her, form a vindictive caucus to witch-hunt her?
That about sounds like what you're condoning?

MarieSucre:


I meant. You're already asking if it is not right that she should be punished for "disrespecting" her lecturer. You and your fake neutrality already assumes she was disrespectful.

Say she was arguing with the lecturer (which is not clear in her writeup except to you off course). That means let's all pull out belts and whip her, form a vindictive caucus to witch-hunt her?
That about sounds like what you're condoning?

Eddygourdo:
since u can't prove she was an aggressor nor can you prove the beating she received was not a reaction to aggression. Does it not make perfect sense to not take sides and judge till we hear from the school? Hear the second version? This is the bone of my contention with you dear

MarieSucre:


Well the yoruba said, if a child isn't trained properly at
home. It's the duty of strangers to then train such child. If
she became disrespectful to the lecturer and he decided to
be wicked to her, there is nothing wrong there. It's tit for
tat. Now the girl claims to have been beaten badly by the
lecturer with a belt. So she was just standing there while
he was beating her abi, or she fought him. Which one.
Because she is a lady that's why u believing her story
hook line and sinker. What if she is lying. Even though it's
against the law for a lecturer to beat a student. But Wat
could warrant that. So u have lecturers who without
provocation or abuse pick up a stick and beat a student.
Ordinarily the lecturer could lose his job for being physical
with the student unless he can prove outright abuse that
made him lose control and behaved thus shamefully. This
could ha e been the case the lecturer proved to the Dean
and they took his side. When he explained the insults and
scenario to other lecturers. They also took his side. And
thus the victimisation.
Who would victimise a defenceless girl who did not wrong.
Except to teach her a lesson. Which they did but even that
I doubt. Especially as the student us playing the victim
card.
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what was that you mentioned again about waiting to hear both sides of the story. Its seems you have already accepted the lecturers side as you also said "hook, line and sinker".

Again you're basing on the assumption that she was unruly. And she was being beaten with a belt. What was she to do? Maybe YOU would have shouted "mummuy o mummy o e gba mi o". But she didn't. I'm guessing that's one of the things pissing you. That in this scenario she didn't grovel and beg. Keep on abusing your power.

pls swerve with this your neutrality ish. you're not.

Eddygourdo:
Well the yoruba said, if a child isn't trained properly at home. It's the duty of strangers to then train such child. If she became disrespectful to the lecturer and he decided to be wicked to her, there is nothing wrong there. It's tit for tat. Now the girl claims to have been beaten badly by the lecturer with a belt. So she was just standing there while he was beating her abi, or she fought him. Which one.
Because she is a lady that's why u believing her story hook line and sinker. What if she is lying. Even though it's against the law for a lecturer to beat a student. But Wat could warrant that. So u have lecturers who without provocation or abuse pick up a stick and beat a student. Ordinarily the lecturer could lose his job for being physical with the student unless he can prove outright abuse that made him lose control and behaved thus shamefully. This could ha e been the case the lecturer proved to the Dean and they took his side. When he explained the insults and scenario to other lecturers. They also took his side. And thus the victimisation.
Who would victimise a defenceless girl who did not wrong. Except to teach her a lesson. Which they did but even that I doubt. Especially as the student us playing the victim card.