I have often wondered why Igbos have to seek justice and fairness in Nigeria all the time. Why can't Igbos simply just join the Yorubas and Hausas to exploit the Niger delta? Why can't Igbos just forget about fairness for once. It is obvious that no one is appreciating Igbo efforts at moving Nigeria forward through fairness. Someone here even referenced Charles Chukwuma Soludo as another example of Igbo greed! The best Central Bank of Nigeria Governor in my lifetime (so far) is termed a greedy man! Haba!
Nigeria is already moving from making the Naira "a reference currency in Africa" to amassing foreign debt again within a few months of Soludo's ouster.
I think the question is, can Ndigbo just forget about justice and fairness for once and simply join the feast, even if the host turns into Somaliland?

Very interesting idea.

Igbo and hausa folks can have the oil and delta. yoruba once developed the west without 1 kobo of oil/blood money and den fit do it again.


yoruba folks built the 1st highrise in Nigeria without oil/blood/money

they built the 1st tv station in Nigeria without oil/blood money

they built the first university in Nigeria without oil/blood money

they built the first modern stadium in Africa without oil/blood money

they built the 1st and only industrial estate in Nigeria without oil/blood money

they construct the first Government Secretariat at Ibadan


all within 8yrs without oil/blood money



please, keep the oil, keep the delta.


Thank you and God bless.

if you dont know everyone eats from the niger delta dont just name the Yoruba or hausas ,  EDOS, IJAW, IGBOS URHOBO do it also

yoruba have always done fine with out the delta all of nigeria knows that

Someone here even referenced Charles Chukwuma Soludo as another example of Igbo greed! The best Central Bank of Nigeria Governor in my lifetime is termed a greedy man! Haba!/quote]

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Should Igbos Join Yoruba And Hausa To "Come And Eat" In The Delta
Have often wondered why Igbos have to seek justice and fairness in Nigeria all the time. Why can't Igbos simply just join the Yorubas and Hausas to exploit the Niger delta? Why can't Igbos just forget about fairness for once. It is obvious that no one is appreciating Igbo efforts at moving Nigeria forward through fairness. Someone here even referenced Charles Chukwuma Soludo as another example of Igbo greed! The best Central Bank of Nigeria Governor in my lifetime is termed a greedy man! Haba!
Nigeria is already moving from making the Naira "a reference currency in Africa" to amassing foreign debt again within a few months of Soludo's ouster.
I think the question is, can Ndigbo just forget about justice and fairness for once and simply join the feast, even if the host turns into Somaliland.

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Why should we Igbos even care about anything going wrong in Naija. The history of that country from the 50s to the present have shown we always try to do the right thing. Zik couldn't turn his back on the north before independence. He could have formed a country without the north, even if they remain under British rule for ever (who cares anyway). But, no! He had to wait for them! I don't think anyone doubts that Zik is the real father of "Nigeria". Again in 1966, after the fall operation wetie crisis in the west in 1964 after election riggings, it was young Igbo military officers who tried to save the day by toppling the system to make Awo the leader of Nigeria. What was the result?  Igbos got massacred all over Nigeria and the coup termed "Igbo coup". If it was Igbo coup, why did they not kill Awo in Jail too? Then Biafra came and Awo paid Ndigbo back in "good coin".
As recent as the Abacha life presidency plot, it was Ekwueme who led real opposition to that [/b]and luckily, Abacha died. Again [b]Senator Kenechukwu Nnamani sacrificed his political future to oppose Obasanjo's third term/life term schemes. He could have simply played along and I bet you he would still be the Senate president today. He lost out and all Igbos lost out and for the first time in Nigeria, an Igboman is not even the fourth citizen in Nigeria.
So, my question again, why should Ndigbo care about whether Nigeria goes to hell, especially at the risk of being misunderstood and oppressed by an unappreciative nation. Can we be selfish for once

I said "interesting", because a friend of mine from Asaba thinks Igbos should join Hausa and Yoruba people to deal with the troublesome Ijaw and Ogoni people once and for all. While there maybe some Machiavellian merits to this idea on the short run, on the long run we would all loose.

For one, Igbos say that whoever is holding you down is invariably holding himself down too.
Another reason is that where Igboland stops and Ijawland begins has not really been agreed upon.
The third reason is that where Igbo people stops and where Ijaws start is also hard to discern--the 2 tribes are very related by blood, geography, and custom.
Finally, while some Igbos are angry enough with some core delta people, the majority of Igbos would not support such action, because it's not just in their nature.

lol. onlytruth wants to "come and eat"? onijekuje

Igbo people will never leave hausa people alone, they have some kind of co dependency thing going on from the days of zik to the likes of their current leaders like ekwueme, nwobodo and the new hausa bingo abi boy boy , what's his name, the imo guy wey just jump ship run under mallam babariga, they hate yoruba people but den love dem hausa masters as long as the masters keep throwing bingo money abi make I call am dogyy bone, awon follow folow



like I said, we did fine without oil/blood money before so no biggie, keep that shit.

@ Post,


Maybe because vast tracks of Igbo lands are also in the Niger-Delta?

@post.your assumptions are biased.yorubas and hausas are not sharing any oil money.most of them are suffering just like most of us.the truth is that few people(mostly ex-military men) who happened to be mostly from north and south-west are guilty.it is also obvious that few igbos,ijaws,ogoni and more are also guilty of oil blood money.

There seems to be a consensus on this thread so far: there are no clear boundaries between Igboland and minority south south lands. In other words, where south east ends and south south begins is unclear. So, what are the motives of all those who claim that Igbos have no physical or moral claim to the N/delta

Onlytruth:

There seems to be a consensus on this thread so far: there are no clear boundaries between Igboland and minority south south lands. In other words, where south east ends and south south begins is unclear. So, what are the motives of all those who claim that Igbos have no physical or moral claim to the N/delta

that's one way of looking at it.

The struggle for supremacy could also go to the other extreme: can other minority ethnicities also "lay claim" to Igbo? eg Igbos/Igboland in general being regarded as Ijaw, Efik, Ibibio,Igala, Tiv or some other ethnicity.

I believe part of the confusion is hidden in these unclear guidelines.

tpia.:

that's one way of looking at it.

The struggle for supremacy could also go to the other extreme: can other minority ethnicities also "lay claim" to Igbo? eg Igbos/Igboland in general being regarded as Ijaw, Efik, Ibibio,Igala, Tiv or some other ethnicity.

I believe part of the confusion is hidden in these unclear guidelines.

I'm sure they did that in the days of slavery hence the old ties. But no one says they are barred from core Igboland today. Bottomline is -both sides are not mutually exclusive.

Why all this over interest on who is hausa, ibo or nupe?

We all are created by one God and we are all black people that grew up and saw ourselves living together in the same nation.

Deciding where you move to is like asking God if he is wise enough to put you where you found yourself. We are all one and should behave so.

Igbos are already doing that maybe they are just leaving you out of it.

Zik aligned with Balewa as Assistant and figurehead president right?
Ekwueme aligned with Shagari as figure head president again right?
Sylvester Ugo aligned with Bashir Tofa as Vice president right?
Arthur Nzeribe helped scuttle June 12 the fairest election in Nigeria right?
Uche Chukwumerije was a willing tool to supress a popular cry for justice right?
Walter Ofona goro was a willing tool to stamp out the cry for fairness and justice right?
Chuba Okadigbo aligned with Buhari as Vice President?
Achike Udenwa, and other South East governors have been lining their pockets
Now Dora Akunyili is the voice of the puppet president.

Maybe you should ask your brothers and sisters why they have been leaving you out of the loot

Nairaland has a whole lot of fools.when few people that happen to be from an ethnic group commit a crime,then the entire ethnic group is guilty.ask yourselves this question.what if an igbo or yoruba president had ordered the massacre of boko haram wouldnt you fools on nairaland tribalise that.eg bombing of atlas cove became bombing of yoruba.RUBBISH!!

@ Post

God forbid! Me an Igbo man have the same aspiration with an aboki who's lifetime ambition is to travel down south to become a maiguard or mai ruwa or an ofe mmanu guy who can take loan from a bank for owambe?

@ Poster

The answer to the question is capital negative affirmation. There is nothing that would have attracted Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani, Nupe to the so-called Niger Delta that Igbo lands do not have. The only common attraction is termed crude oil.

And even with draconian boundary adjustment policy adopted by the federal government of Nigeria, primarily to cede crude oil producing areas in Igbo land to the minorities, Igbo land has much crude oil as does the so-called Niger Delta, if not more.

Dede1:

@ Poster

The answer to the question is capital negative affirmation. There is nothing that would have attracted Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani, Nupe to the so-called Niger Delta that Igbo lands do not have. The only common attraction is termed crude oil.

And even with draconian boundary adjustment policy adopted by the federal government of Nigeria, primarily to cede crude oil producing areas in Igbo land to the minorities, Igbo land has much crude oil as does the so-called Niger Delta, if not more. 

I know there is oil in Igboland. Thanks for helping us understand how much and when it all began.
My question though is, to what extent should the Igbos care about injustice in delta or anywhere in Nigeria. Shouldn't we just join the feast and make hay? We all know that no tribe can out-compete  the Igbo in any area. The only thing (historically) setting us back (at least when compared to what others have done in Nigeria), is our addiction to fairness and progress. Believe me a lot of Igbos will come out of this discussion "wiser".

We probably should have done to Port Harcourt, what the Yorubas did to Lagos -invite all to come and eat! I know the Yorubas won't let something like that happen in core Yorubaland like Abeokuta, Ibadan and others. They sold the ekos to the highest bidder!

@ Onlytruth

My friend, I do not intend to constitute a negative stumbling block to such perceptive idea of Ndigbo's participation in discourse about the so-called Niger Delta. However, the only thing that will remain constant in the region is majority of the inhabitants who seemed to remain ungrateful to Ndigbo.

My people say that when a person is stung by a bee, the person tends to run on sight of a greenfly.

This discussion is good because I would hate for us Igbos to make another strategic mistake again. We want to be sure where things stand before deciding on what is best for us and our children. We must learn from the past so as to avoid another mistake. Morality is not always the best basis for making decisions that border on survival. Some of the people wishing us extinction are our neighbors (morality or not!). So, we must really shine our eyes well well this time!

Onlytruth:

We probably should have done to Port Harcourt, what the Yorubas did to Lagos -invite all to come and eat! I know the Yorubas won't let something like that happen in core Yorubaland like Abeokuta, Ibadan and others. They sold the ekos to the highest bidder!

My brother, you too like the quote 'to come and eat' do you by any chance own a restaurant?

Onlytruth:

This discussion is good because I would hate for us Igbos to make another strategic mistake again. We want to be sure where things stand before deciding on what is best for us and our children. We must learn from the past so as to avoid another mistake. Morality is not always the best basis for making decisions that border on survival. Some of the people wishing us extinction are our neighbors (morality or not!). So, we must really shine our eyes well well this time!

You hit nail on the head.
Despite everything, many people from the so-called Niger Delta are still as virulent against Igbos, fairness, and the truth as they were in 1967.

invisible!:

My brother, you too like the quote 'to come and eat' do you by any chance own a restaurant?

It is an unscrupulous term I borrowed from my good friend "Olusani Abachanjo"!

Also, my father lost a two storey hotel building in Port Harcourt. So in a way this is personal to me.

Onlytruth:

It is an unscrupulous term I borrowed from my good friend "Olusani Abachanjo"!

Also, my father lost a two storey hotel building in Port Harcourt. So in a way this is personal to me.

We lost a building too, but an undeveloped land was all we were able to secure. I was telling them on another thread that there's hardly any Igbo town, family where people did not suffer as a result of the selfish action of Ijaw, Ogoni people in PH.
In my case, our former ijaw houseboy took over our house and tried to kill my dad for coming back to lay claim to his own house in 1971. So much for Ijaw/igbo peace you could say.

You guys get problem with Ijaw people too?


All this hand me down and second hand stories by your elders ain't doing shit but poisoning you guys.

babapupa:

You guys get problem with Ijaw people too?
All this hand me down and second hand stories by your elders ain't doing shit but poisoning you guys.

You need to brush up on your general knowledge of what's going on. It's not second hand story that a house my father built in PH in 1957-58, with his name to the title and all is presently forcefully occupied by another man in the name of abandoned property. The house still stands for all to see----how's that a second hand story?

the issue of Nigerians and property e get as e be.

In some areas, people fighting over inheritance and property, have been known to wander off for decades in a semi-crazed state while under the influence of juju- all done by members of their own family.

imo, its much better to have one's own property. God willing, it wont be a statistic.

This is why many Indians, middle easterners, etc, tend to keep jewels as property, alongside real estate. Precious stones and gold have more motility than land and houses.

Note: am not a speculator selling gold or diamonds.

Where's Invercargill?