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11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 1:20pm On Apr 08, 2016
Ramarni Wilfred, of Loom Grove, Romford, took a Mensa test and has been told he has a higher IQ level than Steven Hawking, Bill Gates and even Albert Einstein.

He said: “I can’t begin to compare myself to these great men whose hard work clearly proves that they are true geniuses.

“Who knows? Perhaps my ‘true genius’ moment will come when I grow up but for now I am just proud of myself and happy that my mum and sister are proud of me too.”

Ramarni, his mum and older sister moved to Romford two years ago but it was a lot earlier that his mum Anthea started to realise there was something a little special about her son.

Anthea, 37, said: “By the time he was three he could read and write and from 18 months we discussed the news and his favourite book was an encyclopaedia!”

Ramarni was part of the gifted and talented programme, a scheme to develop the abilities of more able pupils, as well as the Brilliant Club. It is a programme for those aged 10-16 who come from less privileged backgrounds, held at St Anthony’s Primary School, in Upton Avenue, Forest Gate.

After being invited to a graduation ceremony at Oxford University after writing an essay awarded a 2:1, he was then invited to take an IQ test at Birbeck University.
But it was to his surprise, he was given an IQ of 162, placing him in the top 1 per cent in the UK. Ramarni said: “I was surprised and very happy when I read the results of my IQ test as I didn’t feel very confident after completing the test.
“I was the youngest person there and some people looked in their 40’s!”

Mensa’s chief executive, John Stevenage, said: “Ramarni’s score shows he has great potential and we are pleased to welcome him to Mensa.
“We hope he will enjoy being part of the society and interacting with fellow members.”

As a member, Ramarni will now be invited to exclusive events and will be able to mix with people of his own age with the same interests as himself.

He added: “I don’t really see having a high IQ as a big deal but I do feel very privileged to be invited to join Mensa and can’t wait to attend some of the events.”

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Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by PureWays(m): 1:28pm On Apr 08, 2016
Woow.. How come nobody talked about him?

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Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 1:29pm On Apr 08, 2016
Good for him.
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 1:30pm On Apr 08, 2016
PureWays:
Woow.. How come nobody talked about him?
I won't say it's because he's black..

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Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by ehinmowo: 1:32pm On Apr 08, 2016
how I wish we could have enough sense as a country to discover tens of Ramarnis on Nigeria streets, hawking, fighting, sleeping under bridges, begging for alms and dying everyday.

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Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by PureWays(m): 1:34pm On Apr 08, 2016
Boland:
I won't say it's because he's black..
Lol..

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Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by sandrahnaub(f): 1:36pm On Apr 08, 2016
Op saying 11....picture is saying anoda tin.....it is well
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 1:37pm On Apr 08, 2016
ehinmowo:
how I wish we could have enough sense as a country to discover tens of Ramarnis on Nigeria streets, hawking, fighting, sleeping under bridges, begging for alms and dying everyday.

The best resources a nation can have are Minds, but sadly we've failed in that part in Nigeria..
Even if anyone with great mind springs up, we won't give him the chance to explore..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 1:38pm On Apr 08, 2016
sandrahnaub:
Op saying 11....picture is saying anoda tin.....it is well
Yeah... It is.. He was 11 when he did the Test..
Enjoy.
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by xender(m): 1:42pm On Apr 08, 2016
undecided undecided
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by alatbaba1(m): 1:45pm On Apr 08, 2016
Wow
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 1:58pm On Apr 08, 2016
Intelligence is more than iq scores
intelligence is imagination
many great inventors and scientists do not have high iq scores
good one anyways
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 2:02pm On Apr 08, 2016
Hagm0nd:
Intelligence is more than iq scores
intelligence is imagination
Imagination is part of being intelligent... IQ scores is a proof of one being intelligent..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 2:03pm On Apr 08, 2016
Lalasticlala, I believe this is front page worthy..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 2:09pm On Apr 08, 2016
What do you mean by intelligent
book intelligent?
Boland:
Imagination is part of being intelligent... IQ scores is a proof of one being intelligent..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 3:09pm On Apr 08, 2016
Hagm0nd:
What do you mean by intelligent book intelligent?
I dont get you
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 3:33pm On Apr 08, 2016
For example there are people called savant people who can memorize large volume of information,these set of people tend to have very high iq
and a bulk of them can be found in societies like mensa
but the question is how many mensa members have contributed to human development
ment
intelligence dont mean book smart
people like artist and musicians may general get lower scores on iq test but many have surpassed the state of doing things which they found themselves
Boland:
I dont get you
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 3:50pm On Apr 08, 2016
The boy ear no be here....Rabbit ear.

True Intelligence is not determined by iQ test. When you see an intelligent person, you would know by standard of the relationship and comprehension with you or the group you both in.
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 3:51pm On Apr 08, 2016
Hagm0nd:
For example there are people called savant people who can memorize large volume of information,these set of people tend to have very high iq
and a bulk of them can be found in societies like mensa
but the question is how many mensa members have contributed to human development
ment
intelligence dont mean book smart
people like artist and musicians may general get lower scores on iq test but many have surpassed the state of doing things which they found themselves
A Savant is a different kind of genius...
Chief, there are so many geniuses in NSA, CIA and organisations that run the United States..
Most genius don't like attention, they prefer to stay on a low rather than on the spotlight..

I get your point but, inventions are created by men with dedication in their work..
If a Task is given to an average man and a genius the requires mental capabilities, obviously the genius will do better..

For example:
Had it been we have enough genius in our Political system in Nigeria, the issue of Fuel scarcity, Foreign exchange issues, Electricity and other pressing issues would have been resolved..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 3:54pm On Apr 08, 2016
aaronson:
The boy ear no be here....Rabbit ear.

True Intelligence is not determined by iQ test. When you see an intelligent person, you would know by standard of the relationship and comprehension with you or the group you both in.
Part of the test is to determine how intelligent one is by asking tactical and complex questions..
Who you described up there is simply just smart person..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 3:55pm On Apr 08, 2016
What yardstick do we use to know intelligent men apart from average men
Boland:
A Savant is a different kind of genius...
Chief, there are so many geniuses in NSA, CIA and organisations that run the United States..
Most genius don't like attention, they prefer to stay on a low rather than on the spotlight..

I get your point but, inventions are created by men with dedication in their work..
If a Task is given to an average man and a genius the requires mental capabilities, obviously the genius will do better..

For example:
Had it been we have enough genius in our Political system in Nigeria, the issue of Fuel scarcity, Foreign exchange issues, Electricity and other pressing issues would have been resolved..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 4:02pm On Apr 08, 2016
What yardstick do we use to know intelligent men apart from average men
dedication is what made that guy in your class in high shool get all a's and made that guy in your department first class
imagination is the finally stroke of genius,it consumes the mind,making some men almost crazy
you cant be a genius without knowing
cramming the work of turing or einstein doesnt make you a genius surpassing it makes you one
note that most of savants have some form of brain deformity
Boland:

Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 4:05pm On Apr 08, 2016
Hagm0nd:
What yardstick do we use to know intelligent men apart from average men

-- Abilities to dissolve complex issues..

-- Anticipation of the outcome of an action..

-- Innovations and Ideas

-- Capacity to achieve a required goal.

I believe these can be used as a Yardstick to know if one is intelligent or not..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 4:10pm On Apr 08, 2016
So which of these two are intelligent
a boy in high school that won the best student prize and fades into obscurity later on in life
or
is poor classmate 30 years later who invents the next big thing or owns a business empire
Boland:

-- Abilities to dissolve complex issues..

-- Anticipation of the outcome of an action..

-- Innovations and Ideas

-- Capacity to achieve a required goal.

I believe these can be used as a Yardstick to know if one is intelligent or not..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 4:15pm On Apr 08, 2016
Hagm0nd:
What yardstick do we use to know intelligent men apart from average men
dedication is what made that guy in your class in high shool get all a's and made that guy in your department first class
imagination is the finally stroke of genius,it consumes the mind,making some men almost crazy
you cant be a genius without knowing
cramming the work of turing or einstein doesnt make you a genius surpassing it makes you one
note that most of savants have some form of brain deformity
Can Imagination dissolve a very complex issue?
Can it keep/hold/run an Organisation?
Can it plan?

Imagination is only good for Innovation which is also an important aspect of life but it can't do more than 25% of the whole work...

Imagination without proper planning, strategy anticipation (of hindrances) and control will starve..
Bill Gate is known by most people as a Genie, he had an idea (Microsoft), but the work he did which requires all the aforementioned capabilities was what made him today not just the idea (Innovation)..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 4:26pm On Apr 08, 2016
Hagm0nd:
So which of these two are intelligent
a boy in high school that won the best student prize and fades into obscurity later on in life
or
is poor classmate 30 years later who invents the next big thing or owns a business empire
Lol.. Of course the one that owns an empire cheesy ...

The boy that invented the next big thing was no dullard, he was also a brilliant boy, he is an inventor (let's say he is a person with high imagination) but it took him 30 years to acquire the skills needed to make his idea a success, the skills that a genius naturally has..

I'm not disputing the fact that imagination is important but I believe there are abilities that are much more important that just imagination..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Nobody: 4:30pm On Apr 08, 2016
We are saying the same thing
my point is that there are so many reason a man may fail at point or he may appear to have low iq but such person may be a genius
that is why coming first in school means nothing
but our society has placed so much emphasis on that
and that has led to the dearth of our various sectors
imagination solves alot problems
take the wright brothers for example i dont think they know so much about physics but because of their imagination they built the first flying machine
imaginations doesnt mean loafing on your bed doing nothing you must put your hands to the wheels,organise and execute them
a society must be able to know the various guild in which a man can function properly
within such society you will be suprised how many genius abound
Boland:
Can Imagination dissolve a very complex issue?
Can it keep/hold/run an Organisation?
Can it plan?

Imagination is only good for Innovation which is also an important aspect of life but it can't do more than 25% of the whole work...

Imagination without proper planning, strategy anticipation (of hindrances) and control will starve..
Bill Gate is known by most people as a Genie, he had an idea (Microsoft), but the work he did which requires all the aforementioned capabilities was what made him today not just the idea (Innovation)..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 4:37pm On Apr 08, 2016
Hagm0nd:
We are saying the same thing
my point is that there are so many reason a man may fail at point or he may appear to have low iq but such person may be a genius
that is why coming first in school means nothing
but our society has placed so much emphasis on that
and that has led to the dearth of our various sectors
imagination solves alot problems
take the wright brothers for example i dont think they know so much about physics but because of their imagination they built the first flying machine
imaginations doesnt mean loafing on your bed doing nothing you must put your hands to the wheels,organise and execute them
a society must be able to know the various guild in which a man can function properly
within such society you will be suprised how many genius abound
Yeah.. All must work together to produce success..
In anything one finds itself, endeavour to put much effort and dedication, imagination is not just the only thing needed likewise being a genius but hard work and dedication will push those abilities..

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Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by DrayZee: 5:31pm On Apr 08, 2016
No hating though but a high IQ does not not necessarily mean you have a mental ability greater that those whose IQ's are not up to yours. It just gives a summary showing general level of intellect.
So comparing this kid to gods of physics who predicted theories years above them is just foolhardy. You may compare the IQ test results but nothing more.
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by DaVinci24(m): 6:11pm On Apr 08, 2016
Okay...
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by Boland(m): 7:10pm On Apr 08, 2016
DrayZee:
No hating though but a high IQ does not not necessarily mean you have a mental ability greater that those whose IQ's are not up to yours. It just gives a summary showing general level of intellect.
So comparing this kid to gods of physics who predicted theories years above them is just foolhardy. You may compare the IQ test results but nothing more.
The gods of physics weren't just geniuses, they put much effort in their field that made them what they were (are)..

The facts don't lie, the kid is a rare gem, if he dedicates his life to something productive just like his fellow genie, I bet he'd be one of the greats too..
Re: 11 Year Old Black Boy With IQ Higher Than Einstein And Stephen Hawking by wins18(m): 7:36pm On Apr 08, 2016
op I can't find my name there, me wey don start to dey read dictionary and bible at the age of 5

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