Blacksta

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lol see how easy it is to derail a thread

Where was i - lets get back on track

Summary Execution is lawful, but that doesn't mean it should be employed in all cases. It is wrong to kill people without giving them the benefit of doubt.
But this is my submission.

We all know what Nigerian Police is? a bunch of blood thirsty bastards, now add freedom to conduct Summary Execution to that and what you get is SAVAGES. The Nigerian government know this fact, they also know that to curb the activities of savages who kill people in the name of religion(talk for another day), they will need to release savages on them, this is in line with the yoruba proverb "Omo ina la ran si'na". This executions, even if it is carried out on innocent citizens will place fears in the hearts of many like those savages who believe religion is a libel for committing murder. This is not the first religious crisis in the north, and we all know who attacks who, we know which set of religious order wake up one morning and feel like killing and they go ahead and do it, maybe partly because they know that they will get away with it. partly because they have always been getting away with it. So in this wise I support the Nigerian government.

And right now lets assume for a moment that you or me is Mr. President, what will you/me do? Will I arrest these guys, give them a fair trial during which their very good lawyers will claim temporary insanity or any of those lawyer lies and allow them get away with it. Will I unleash terror upon terror? Will I attempt dialog? What will I do?

If we consider these possibilities we will know that we are living in hard times. Militants in the south, now another set of militants are rising in the North. Can I give them their demands, just like we are trying to do with our southern militants, what exactly is the way to go. ASUU is on strike. PHCN is not working. My health is failing me. Senate is always on my neck,

People, what we are facing is a gross degeneration of law and order, fostered by 20+ years of bad administration. These things might continue like this for the next 20 or 30 years, maybe NIgeria will never make it out of it in one piece. But as many of us that are learned and know what is right should spend the bulk of our energy preaching peace. I want to believe that whatever decision the Government have taken in this wise is in their eyes the best. For some of us who have been fortunate enough to lead at one point or the other, we know what hard such a task is. Lets stop bashing our government for us and try to see the world through their eyes. As of today, all hope is not lost, lets all wake up each day and chant God Bless Nigeria.

big ups to the nigerian police and army for these fortunate murders. they deserve an award

i hope the same thing will be done to the big heads in niger delta.

Ex lg chairman/commissioner down,ex ministers/governors next, we r progressing

Abeg make we hear jo.

This is the Nigeria i know.

In the South - Niger Delta Militant (Over 40years of struggle) = Killing, kidnapping (But them no kill reach wetin BOKO HARAM KILL in 4 days ooh)

In the North - BOKO HARAM (Just decided to kill because WESTERN LIFE SUCKS)  

In the WEST - EKITI Re-Election (Owambe wan scatter everywhere)

In the EAST:- They have graduated from ROBBING BANKS TO ROBBING BANKS + KIDNAPPING)

So where is safe? ABUJA?    This place don dey full with persons wey dey run from their regions ooh.

Very soon, NIGERIA go be for who get more bullets, because the guns don cheap pass chinchin.

In all this, where is the CLEAR EVIDENCE that those two fellows killed by Police are actually responsible for this??

I thought we still have court of law, so when is Police now the Judge?

What a count

back2back:

In all this, where is the CLEAR EVIDENCE that those two fellows killed by Police are actually responsible for this??

I thought we still have court of law, so when is Police now the Judge?

What a count

No evidence yet.

The cold-blooded murder of civilians already in custody by hooligans in uniform is evidence that most of those killed in this mayhem were murdered by NPF and NA.

Execution of criminals is bad, it's not right. Simple.

i can c mr richyblack is still eating that biscuit from morning

It's easier to sit in the comfort of your room typing jargons. I was in the midst of the 4 days fierce fight. One of the suspected taliban was even arrested in my area. I don't know what you would say if your properties were damaged by the talibans or if you re one of corps members displaced. Fear was in the air until we got the good news of the killing. This is Nigeria, anything could have happened if they werent killed.

Whoever said it was wrong to kill those Idiots that call themselves Boko Haram is nothing but a Bastard.I wish most of them were in Borno or had some of their loved ones or close relatives there murdered then they'll have an idea.Why would some sets of Idiot wanna rebel a Government of a State , or better still the whole Nigeria claiming they want it to be an Islamic Country and who ever doesn't wanna subject to their laws be executed?

I was just saying am not feeling secure in this Country again due to the fact that the Government as not been able to do anything about those Greedy boys in Niger Delta fighting for their pockets claiming they're doing it for the people in Niger delta.

Honestly I wish some of you Idiots were there and were killed or better still someone you loved was there and got killed then you will understand why it was necessary for the government to take that action.

Quote from lonewolf

Cry me a river, weep me a sea, then go fishing in both.

There's a difference between idealism and realism. In an ideal situation, summary execution is not the best. Rule of law, innocent until proven guilty and all that lawerly nonsense. In the real world, however, where a government has a population to protect, decisions makers are entitled to be pragmatic. I will allude, again, to Obama, the custodian of change. .::Rolls eyes::. Obama promised transparency but when it was time to release pictures of American war vets molesting and maiming Iraqi prisoners, he sat on it. Why? Because it was the pragmatic thing to do. Even though it would have been ideal for him to release the pictures.

Again, when Somali pirates hijacked American sailors, what did Obama do? He ordered the pirates shot. In cold blood.

Sitting down in the comfort of your living room, on a Saturday morning, eating biscuit and moaning about due process is hardly a realistic option when a bunch of morons have decided to visit 13-century beliefs on a struggling developing nation. And in the final analysis, as we develop a jurisprudence for dealing the with terrorism and terrorists, we'll begin to act differently. But in the mean time, kill the motherfuckers.

Hear, hear!

Hello all,

I reside and work in Maiduguri.

Let no mistake be made, Mohammed Yussuf is dead, no cover up what so ever, all to the excitement and rejoicing of the people of Borno state. Where I do agree that he probably ought to have been given a lawyer, (who will defend him, and allow public sentiments from our Muslim brothers to come in, and finally asked to be released and go scot free (like what happened once before) and in another, say 3-4 years, he will regroup, and give us a combined Taliban/Osama style attack and kill us all in Borno state) we certainly welcome the swift execution he had (if that is what he got). If the Nigerian Soldiers had made the mistake of keeping alive here in Maiduguri that night, I can assure, more of his men will come in from Somalia, Chad and Niger to attempt to release him.

He is not new in our midst here, everyone is usually scared of his teachings and his members around Railway where he stays. You dare not wear Jeans (considered western) around them, he even taught that people should not use fork and knives that this was also wertern. I know people with degree certificates who are his members that destroyed their papers because they claimed it was unIslamic. If they lived their lives to themselves as they did in the last 4 years or more, no qualms, but to attempt to take over a state government so as to introduce Sharia is a complete disrespect of our constitution. as big as the Biafran soldiers were, in size and weaponry, the Nigerian government fought them to stand still. Then their babaric acts of killing, by slaughtering the throats of the soldiers/police was disgusting. I thank God that main stream Islam here in Borno state preach and practise peace always, the Kanuris are friendly hosts anyday, they respect your religion and expect you to respect theirs. They strongly condemned Yussuf's acts, and are happy for this end.

Someone mentioned proof of his atrocities, that he should be given some benefit of doubt. I ask you to come hear and see the proofs you require, dead bodies littering the streets, the stench oozing out from swollen bodies, come to his house, its a complete armoury, he even had a full medical team and facility for treating his wounded soldiers. About 4 days before the sunday evening that his mayhem started, he had boasted that he will perform this very act. The government were slow to respond, Intelligence gathering had their facts, but necessary Angencies were sloppy about acting, just like what happened in the inter-religious crisis of February 2006 here in Maiduguri also.

All I am saying is this: If after being caught in police custody, they were intending to take him to Abuja for trial, we the people, would have stormed the police cell to kill him ourselves.

No apologies if I sound babaric, you should come see the desruption of lives and properties here.

@Poster I do not understand your post!He died during gun battle,he was executed in police custody,which one should we take?

You can tell from the posts of *some* of those who are sympathetic to the killed jihadists, that they are not entirely sincere.

They are really not crying out for the sake of the jihadists that were killed(who by the way, killed innocent people as well).

They are in fact thinking about some other criminals in other parts of the country who are also causing mayhem in the nation.

Their thinking being that the same thing that happened to the jihadists, may soon get to these other criminals whom they support.

They wont read where the jihadists maimed and killed innocent Nigerians but will only read and project where they are killed while resisting arrest or engaging the police in battle.

Someone here claimed his journalist friend, by some dint of fate, was right there when the Yusuf was killed and straight away some Simpletons are jumping about like they have hot coal in their bosoms, all believing the nonsense.

The police identified him as a journalist and still allowed him to watch them execute someone. What bleeding nonsense.

If they attack the police and engage them in gun battle, the police should shoot to kill. Period.

They come here giving us references of the western world as if the police in the west will just look on while they are being shot at without shooting back to kill.

RichyBlacK:



The cold-blooded murder of civilians already in custody by hooligans in uniform is evidence that most of those killed in this mayhem were murdered by NPF and NA.

Richyblack you really need to end your provacative language.These cultists who took up arms against the nation and innocent nigerians are not civilians and they should expect to receive harsh military justice.

md4real:

i hope the same thing will be done to the big heads in niger delta.

Is there something strange in water in the North?

Bloody Thieves!

That is why God is punishing your people to execute each other without outside help.

People go just siddon inside their house for Lagos, inside air-conditioned living room, and be tapping at their 300, 000 naira laptop, clamouring for rule of law while some idiot is tearing the country a new arsehole.

That's hardly a serious way to deal with things.

lonewolf:

People go just siddon inside their house for Lagos, inside air-conditioned living room, and be tapping at their 300, 000 naira laptop, clamouring for rule of law while some idiot is tearing the country a new arsehole.

That's hardly a serious way to deal with things.

What do suggest we do - start blowing up pipelines?

Dnt forget: they will be eating biscuit

The rule of law or due process is not to celebrate criminals. These people are criminals and we know they've committed offences deserving the death sentence, but do you know this Yusuf fellow? The picture of the dead skinny guy in the papers, how do you know It's Yusuf?

The reason why I don't support all this is that a day will come when an innocent man will be slaughtered like this and by then nothing can be done because you all have endorsed it.

Do not support injustice. Justice would have still sent Yusuf to his death but at least let's know things are done right. Simple. Couldn't they even arrange a quick trial which would have taken a couple of hours after arrest, then they carry out the sentence. There no other sentence for that kind of mayhem besides death. All we're saying is let's not celebrate the police acting outside the confines of the law. We may be under arrest tomorrow because our vehicle papers are not complete, then next thing they transport you somewhere, execute and announce to the world they just killed a notorious armed robber, when in fact they just set one free in your stead. If you don't believe this is a regular practice is Nigerian Police stations, then you're not in Naija. If you don't want it to end, then you're again, not in Naija. If you think by celebrating this extra-judicial killing, the police will kill less people without judgement rather than more, then God protect you.


A quick trial and execution I'll support, but killing a captured criminal without trial even it was after 11 years it just evil.

good for them.

I have been reading from these posts all day am am convinced that some of us have the facts all mixed up. for me, the situation however the excuse has religious and enthnical coloration. why did they start by attacking churches in bauchi?

Any group of poeple who have taken arms against the government have commiteed Treason already punishable by death and should not get sympathy especially when they go out killing and maiming innocent people.

the NPF and the NA might be harsh in dealing with this issue , but am with them on closing up the leader and sponsor's case file once and for all, because if they fail to do same, they will immediately turn to celebrities like our corrupt government officials.

Isa Yuguda was busy sampling women and incubating his latest catch, Yaraduas daughter and the terrorists Boko haramed his state.
Stupid man!

I won't be surprised if he is just using "idea" to finish off his political opponents.

Casualties of Boko Haram

Two wrongs never make a right! Boko Haram or not, they are still nigerians and needed a fair trial. If the system finds them guilty after the trial, then let the Law take its full toll, if not acquit them and set them free.

If you have never been in Police custody before, you might have a hard time understanding what i am trying to say here.

Let me tell you a fable; Once upon a time, the President of Gidi wanted to know the best security outfit in Gidi, so he set free a rabbit into the thick forest of Gidi and ordered the Gidi Police, Gidi SSS and Gidi's Army to fish him out. The one that took the least time to accomplish this task will be adjudged the winner and most efficient.
The Army went in first, after burning the whole Gidi forest, they came out with a burnt offering of poor Mr Rabbit. It took only one week. Next was Gidi's SSS, they planted spys and after 3 weeks without success, wrote up a story that Mr Rabbit was seen leaving the Gidi's border to the next country,(which was a lie of coures!). The Gidi Police was next, after 5 weeks in the forest, they came out with a large bear, badly beaten and blue, and poor Mr Bear was shouting, "I confess, I am a rabbit, just don't hit me again"!
E go better!

This is just so wrong.
In as much as I dislike these Islamists with every fiber in me, no body deserves to be executed without a trial like a sallah goat.
There could be innocent people amongst them.
See how they display dead bodies like they are dead flies
Civilized people won't even show dead animals this way

$osisi:

This is just so wrong.
In as much as I dislike these Islamists with every fiber in me, no body deserves to be executed without a trial like a sallah goat.
There could be innocent people amongst them.
See how they display dead bodies like they are dead flies
Civilized people won't even show dead animals this way

My dear, that is Arewa for you. What do you expect from govts that implement sharia in a secular state, outside the constituition?