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Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by UncleGb: 2:49pm On Apr 11, 2016
I need direction where to get single cell radiator for Toyota camry 2003(2.4L engine,4 plugs,Autotransmission). I can only see double cell in the market and I was advised to go for a SINGLE cell that came with it for replacement.
Note: There is NO overheating issues ,just a leak on the radiator that requires topping up every morning.PLssssss help your brother.
Gurusss over to youu
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:07pm On Apr 11, 2016
demand and supply. There is little demand for the single cell, so no one imports it. Do not bother buying tokumbor, most are refurbished

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Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by DECOtech(m): 1:23am On Apr 12, 2016
uncleGb, what Gazzuzz is tryn to say is that you might have to import the single cell radiator by urself... BTW, for inside which market you been de find am?
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Nobody: 10:35am On Apr 12, 2016
Why don't you want double cell?
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by UncleGb: 7:03pm On Apr 12, 2016
0rex:
Why don't you want double cell?

Thanks for the question Orex

Based on my findings and advise from automedics

The whole house agree with me that CARS are thermal engines ( HOT) and they need to attain optimum temperature to function well.
If a double cell is used as NIGER mechanics will propose that weather here is different from what we have here as if there are no places over there that are not as hot as NIGER the following is bound to happen:

1.Overcooling of the engine,if double cell is used as against the manufacturer single cell. Thereby, killing the engine gradually with sludge build up

2. More fuel consumption because the ECU will keep spraying fuel with the mind that the engine has not reach the optimum temperature.

3. Water pump wears out quickly. A pump that has the power for single cell now doing double work.

This are just the major reasons amidst others. Anybody in the can enlighten as more as nobody knows it all.

Where are the Sienna and others chairmen of nairaland . Pls shed more light on this plssssssssssss.

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Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Nobody: 7:41pm On Apr 12, 2016
I have some contrary opinions but I'll chill for the opinion of more experienced people.

Cc: honmusa, Siena, Denn, GAZZUZZ, MPVgoddess, DECOtech...
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Jumpy: 7:49pm On Apr 12, 2016
[quote author=UncleGb post=44607159]I need direction where to get single cell radiator for Toyota camry 2003(2.4L engine,4 plugs,Autotransmission). I can only see double cell in the market and I was advised to go for a SINGLE cell that came with it for replacement.
Note: There is NO overheating issues ,just a leak on the radiator that requires topping up every morning.PLssssss help your brother.
Gurusss over to youu[/quote

Why do you want that cell?
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Jumpy: 7:51pm On Apr 12, 2016
UncleGb:
I need direction where to get single cell radiator for Toyota camry 2003(2.4L engine,4 plugs,Autotransmission). I can only see double cell in the market and I was advised to go for a SINGLE cell that came with it for replacement.
Note: There is NO overheating issues ,just a leak on the radiator that requires topping up every morning.PLssssss help your brother.
Gurusss over to youu

What is the problem with double cell?
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by honmusa(m): 7:58pm On Apr 12, 2016
UncleGb:


Thanks for the question Orex

Based on my findings and advise from automedics

The whole house agree with me that CARS are thermal engines ( HOT) and they need to attain optimum temperature to function well.
If a double cell is used as NIGER mechanics will propose that weather here is different from what we have here as if there are no places over there that are not as hot as NIGER the following is bound to happen:

1.Overcooling of the engine,if double cell is used as against the manufacturer single cell. Thereby, killing the engine gradually with sludge build up

2. More fuel consumption because the ECU will keep spraying fuel with the mind that the engine has not reach the optimum temperature.

3. Water pump wears out quickly. A pump that has the power for single cell now doing double work.

This are just the major reasons amidst others. Anybody in the can enlighten as more as nobody knows it all.

Where are the Sienna and others chairmen of nairaland . Pls shed more light on this plssssssssssss.
I support you wholehearted for all the point listed above because everything still point to the fact that your manufacturer specification is the best for your car .However if you cannot get new genuine single Cell radiator ,go for good 1st grade tokunbo single cell that will still serve you for years without any issue instead of going out of specification by using new double cell that will further over -cool your engine the more .
I bought a single tokunbo single cell radiator since 3 years ago for my car and still serving me without any issue till date
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Jumpy: 8:10pm On Apr 12, 2016
GAZZUZZ:
demand and supply. There is little demand for the single cell, so no one imports it. Do not bother buying tokumbor, most are refurbished


Oooh that is why is like that, I never knew thanks. Thanks so much.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Denn(m): 8:22pm On Apr 12, 2016
There is an error I have noticed in the postulations on radiators.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a double cell radiator.

In fact, I will advise you use a double cell radiator asap.

My facts are stated below;

The operating temperature of the engine is not determined by the size of the radiator but the opening temperature of the thermostat.

In fact if your radiator is as big as a geepee tank, as long as your thermostat is Installed and it opens as when due, your engine will run at an optimal temperature.

The problem with radiator size comes into play if :
*your thermostat has been deleted.
*your cooling fan is not operating at default setting
*there is a problem with any other component in the cooling system.

Double cell radiators enhance the speed at which the coolant gets cooled since it offers more surface area for the air to pass over.

With our high ambient temperature, we need double cell (or even triple cell) radiators as a cooling system upgrade.

Do not delete your thermostat no matter what you do. If your car cannot cool with the thermostat in place, there is a problem.

Thanks

Cc orex

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Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Denn(m): 8:25pm On Apr 12, 2016
UncleGb:


Thanks for the question Orex

Based on my findings and advise from automedics

The whole house agree with me that CARS are thermal engines ( HOT) and they need to attain optimum temperature to function well.
If a double cell is used as NIGER mechanics will propose that weather here is different from what we have here as if there are no places over there that are not as hot as NIGER the following is bound to happen:

1.Overcooling of the engine,if double cell is used as against the manufacturer single cell. Thereby, killing the engine gradually with sludge build up

2. More fuel consumption because the ECU will keep spraying fuel with the mind that the engine has not reach the optimum temperature.

3. Water pump wears out quickly. A pump that has the power for single cell now doing double work.

This are just the major reasons amidst others. Anybody in the can enlighten as more as nobody knows it all.

Where are the Sienna and others chairmen of nairaland . Pls shed more light on this plssssssssssss.

If an automedics guy actually said this (point 1), then he is totally economical with the truth.

A radiator is part of the cooling system and not the only part of the cooling system.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Nobody: 8:30pm On Apr 12, 2016
Jumpy:


What is the problem with double cell?

What is the problem with the standard radiator, that Toyota spent millions of $$$ in Research & Development on? Does Toyota offer a "double cell" radiator in the XV20 Camry?
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Denn(m): 8:51pm On Apr 12, 2016
Siena:


What is the problem with the standard radiator, that Toyota spent millions of $$$ in Research & Development on? Does Toyota offer a "double cell" radiator in the XV20 Camry?

The OP wants to change his leaking radiator. The current OEM radiator which is a single core is not available for purchase.

The model available for purchase is the radiator with double core...aftermarket.

OP was concerned if his engine will not get optimal thermal efficiency with a double cell radiator.

There is brand new double core radiators that fit the particular Toyota and works flawlessly. Engine temperature remains optimal.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:54pm On Apr 12, 2016
Denn:
There is an error I have noticed in the postulations on radiators.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a double cell radiator.

In fact, I will advise you use a double cell radiator asap.

My facts are stated below;

The operating temperature of the engine is not determined by the size of the radiator but the opening temperature of the thermostat.

In fact if your radiator is as big as a geepee tank, as long as your thermostat is Installed and it opens as when due, your engine will run at an optimal temperature.

The problem with radiator size comes into play if :
*your thermostat has been deleted.
*your cooling fan is not operating at default setting
*there is a problem with any other component in the cooling system.

Double cell radiators enhance the speed at which the coolant gets cooled since it offers more surface area for the air to pass over.

With our high ambient temperature, we need double cell (or even triple cell) radiators as a cooling system upgrade.

Do not delete your thermostat no matter what you do. If your car cannot cool with the thermostat in place, there is a problem.

Thanks

Cc orex

nice one.

Op get the double, transfer all the components from the old one to the new one(fans, thermoswitch) and you will be just fine.

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Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Nobody: 9:15pm On Apr 12, 2016
Denn:


The OP wants to change his leaking radiator. The current OEM radiator which is a single core is not available for purchase.

The model available for purchase is the radiator with double core...aftermarket.

OP was concerned if his engine will not get optimal thermal efficiency with a double cell radiator.

There is brand new double core radiators that fit the particular Toyota and works flawlessly. Engine temperature remains optimal.

The thread starter means the single core radiator is not available from the usual suspects, or at a price he's willing to pay. Because I find it difficult to believe a genuine Toyota radiator is not available from RT Briscoe or Elizade.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Readonee35L(m): 9:35pm On Apr 12, 2016
Siena:


The thread starter means the single core radiator is not available from the usual suspects, or at a price he's willing to pay. Because I find it difficult to believe a genuine Toyota radiator is not available from RT Briscoe or Elizade.
Lol Briscoe and Elizade
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Denn(m): 9:47pm On Apr 12, 2016
Siena:


The thread starter means the single core radiator is not available from the usual suspects, or at a price he's willing to pay. Because I find it difficult to believe a genuine Toyota radiator is not available from RT Briscoe or Elizade.

I doubt elizade or RT briscoe stocks parts of vehicles above 10 years...apart from filters and spark plugs. I could be wrong though.

One thing I am sure of is that these dealerships in Nigeria are stealerships... Ford Briscoe sold basic motocraft engine oil filter for a ford Explorer at N4,000 when USD was N195. I wonder how much it would be now that USD has gone up. The filter actually costs around 3 USD on Amazon.

I won't be surprised if Briscoe sells the radiator at N100,000 which is 25% of the car value.

This is why most purchases are either from Ladipo parts market.... Either aftermarket or from used imports.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by baddooski: 10:15pm On Apr 12, 2016
Readonee35L:

Lol Briscoe and Elizade
ur curve sha, i swear its a sight to behold.

God is wonderful!
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Readonee35L(m): 11:14pm On Apr 12, 2016
baddooski:
ur curve sha, i swear its a sight to behold.

God is wonderful!
Comot ur eye for person wife angry...
You no see M for my profile
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by IdaraCHODB(m): 2:26am On Apr 13, 2016
If the stealerships are too costly and you plan to keep the car for long, then do as I did import grade 1 aftermarket single cell radiator, that is if you don't mind today's dollar to naira rates.

Might make sense to compare and contrast the cost of going to stealership route versus importation.

Someone did comment that if they sell it at 100,000.00 that that's about 25% the value of the car.

Take note that if you go the importation route, be ready to pay for at least 30 pounds in freight, if my memory does not fail me, that is how much I had to pay to bring mine in not including clearing.

So you decide how you want to go.

$320+ to 1 Naira is not exactly very friendly!!
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by lonelydora: 4:38am On Apr 13, 2016
Siena:


The thread starter means the single core radiator is not available from the usual suspects, or at a price he's willing to pay. Because I find it difficult to believe a genuine Toyota radiator is not available from RT Briscoe or Elizade.
Oga Siena, we look for an alternative most times to avoid creating hole in our pocket. grin grin


Meanwhile, I disagree with the 'water pump' wearing out quickly as op stated. The water pump has no business with the size of the radiator.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Nobody: 7:39am On Apr 13, 2016
Readonee35L:

Comot ur eye for person wife angry...
You no see M for my profile
grin cheesy grin
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by BOUNTYDOG(m): 7:42am On Apr 13, 2016
Even Briscoe and Elizade sometimes source their parts from Ladipo,especially for a car that old,and in this case,even Briscoe and Elizade will advice the double cell due to unavailability of the single,in those days,when you ship in a benz with single cell,despite single cell being the OEM,we ate mostly adviced to change to double as our temp s diff from theirs.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Nobody: 7:45am On Apr 13, 2016
I'm with oga Denn on this. So far other parts of the cooling system are in place, a double cell radiator will work just as fine as a single cell.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Denn(m): 8:43am On Apr 13, 2016
baddooski:
ur curve sha, i swear its a sight to behold.

God is wonderful!

I have never checked his profile picture before and I must commend his wife's beauty.

But bros, do you go about checking profile picture on NL? This is cartalk o and not romance section.

Caveat emptor

Lol
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Nobody: 11:24am On Apr 13, 2016
BOUNTYDOG:
Even Briscoe and Elizade sometimes source their parts from Ladipo,especially for a car that old,and in this case,even Briscoe and Elizade will advice the double cell due to unavailability of the single,in those days,when you ship in a benz with single cell,despite single cell being the OEM,we ate mostly adviced to change to double as our temp s diff from theirs.

I'm contracted to Toyota UK, and out of curiosity, I checked on the availability of a radiator for the older Camry XV20 (1997-2001). Too old? It's still available. Meaning the 2003 model will still be a stock item. But that's another thread.

The highlighted part of your statement is wrong. A thermostat regulates the coolant's working temperature, not the ambient temperature. This has been thrashed out in tons of threads since 2006.
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by BOUNTYDOG(m): 11:44am On Apr 13, 2016
Siena:


I'm contracted to Toyota UK, and out of curiosity, I checked on the availability of a radiator for the older Camry XV20 (1997-2001). Too old? It's still available. Meaning the 2003 model will still be a stock item. But that's another thread.

The highlighted part of your statement is wrong. A thermostat regulates the coolant's working temperature, not the ambient temperature. This has been thrashed out in tons of threads since 2006.


Ok sir!
Copy that!
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by Denn(m): 12:46pm On Apr 13, 2016
Exactly 13 months after I bought a 2013 Kia Rio brand new from Dana motors, my car battery packed up. The battery stopped working suddenly; no drainage symptoms nothing. I drove to the barbing saloon and had to rent a battery to start the car.

So I took the car to Dana motors. I was told warranty ended the previous month and I had to pay for a new battery. After much fighting which yielded no result, I agreed to pay for the battery, I was billed around 30k. I assumed it would be OEM due to the price.

Lo and behold, when I got delivery of my car after 24 hours for installation, it was a common Chinese battery that was buyable from.any Street trader at 10,000 then.

The dealerships in Nigeria are different from the ones in UK or even ordinary south Africa.

Oh....I almost forgot... My first car, a Honda accord 1990 model. I drove to Honda Place along Apapa road and asked for a vehilce service. The customer service guy told me that they don't work on such cars and if I don't mind, he will give me the number of his own mechanic.

The double core radiators we have in Ladipo and other markets do a good job of cooling. They are Chinese but they work. They don't affect the engine operating temperature but do a good job of increasing the surface available for heat dissipation.....and they don't cost half of the value of the car

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Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by BOUNTYDOG(m): 10:18pm On Apr 13, 2016
U never can tell the water pump in that car might be same used inthe double cell radiators,so might not even have any effects on the pump,and the chasis might ve provided hangers to accomodate double cell.
@ Ladipo u can get a grade radiator as good as new if you pay D price,and besides the single cell too will be available there if u know ur way around,just not my line"Benz all da way"
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by BOUNTYDOG(m): 10:25pm On Apr 13, 2016
U never can tell the water pump in that car might be same used in the double cell radiator engine, might not even have any effects on the pump,and the chasis might ve provided hangers to accomodate double cell.
@ Ladipo u can get a grade radiator as good as new if you pay D price,and besides the single cell too will be available there if u know ur way around,just not my line"Benz all da way"
Re: Direction On Where To Get Single Cell Radiator---toyota Camry 2003 by DECOtech(m): 10:29pm On Apr 13, 2016
Denn:
There is an error I have noticed in the postulations on radiators.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a double cell radiator.

In fact, I will advise you use a double cell radiator asap.

My facts are stated below;

The operating temperature of the engine is not determined by the size of the radiator but the opening temperature of the thermostat.

In fact if your radiator is as big as a geepee tank, as long as your thermostat is Installed and it opens as when due, your engine will run at an optimal temperature.

The problem with radiator size comes into play if :
*your thermostat has been deleted.
*your cooling fan is not operating at default setting
*there is a problem with any other component in the cooling system.

Double cell radiators enhance the speed at which the coolant gets cooled since it offers more surface area for the air to pass over.

With our high ambient temperature, we need double cell (or even triple cell) radiators as a cooling system upgrade.

Do not delete your thermostat no matter what you do. If your car cannot cool with the thermostat in place, there is a problem.

Thanks

Cc orex


Hmm...

I concur.

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