An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes

You keep going round and round. How many seconds does it take to repent?
Why should god refuse to answer prayers immediately after repentance?
If i repent now why shouldn't my prayers be answered until after months- how stupid is that?

Why must the family be hiding something?
Why cant it be your god who is incompetent and wicked?

Classic christian apologist crap!
The bible is just a literature like any other story book. Deceiving yourself into believing that you read it on another realm is delusion at it's finest!

Really? All you've been doing is peddling lies and making sick excuses for the redundancy of your god.

It's either you're a liar or you cannot read.
Where did i imply that angels should appear to the parents on their own. My original question was why couldn't GOD  do something to warn them or SEND angels to tell them to go to the clinic since he won't answer their prayers instead of letting them believe he was listening in effect leaving the poor girl to die. Afterall an angel appeared to joseph in the dream and told him to flee to egypt because of herod wanted to kill baby jesus aka god. . . .it only shows god is selfish and would gladly send angels to save his own ass but can't spare just one of the billions he has to go warn the parents of this little girl.

you only stated it's a possibility, so what?
You in essence attributed the death of the girl to the parents when clearly god is to blame

What are you blabbing?
Their faith is pretty glaring!
Only someone with faith as big as a mountain would deny a beloved child treatment for years believing god for a miracle. The could simply have gone to the hospital but they chose not to. The girl kept getting worse and worse yet they did not waver, even after her death they still believe she can be raised from the dead.
Then You now open to spew crap about them not having faith- what a joke!

with their mountain size faith nothing happened yet jesus said you need only a mustard seed amount- what a liar and crook that jesus was!

You are a deluded christian drunk with the fallacies and lies of jesus-i don't expect much from you than the usual pathetic excuses you make for your wicked god.

mactao:
Tudor, you're getting too heated up, dramatic, insulting. RELAX.

Because there's such a thing as spiritual growth.If all Christians were on the same level spiritually then we wouldn't need to go to Church and sit and listen to pastors preach to us.[/b]Did you notice when Jesus said:
[b]Matthew 17:21Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
In other words, the Christian that commits himself to regular prayer and fasting would be at an advanced level when compared to the Christian who just goes to Church and comes back home and doesn't have any time for his personal spiritual growth.

Do you expect someone who just became born again to raise the dead? Definitely not.He'd still have growth to do.

I never said the family was hiding something. I was just saying it's possible.

The fact that you don't believe in the Bible doesn't mean that those who do are deluded. No.

Your yardstick for measuring lies as far as religion is concerned is your own belief. Hardly reliable.

Here's my point - assuming they had sin in them, then they wouldn't qualify for the ministry of angels. The first verse I quoted said that angels associate with people who fear God. The second one said that angels listen to the voice of the word of God. The third one showed us that angels are servants of God, just like Christians are on earth.  Now, fear of God and the word of God are two things that can hardly be found in a sinner. So when the conditions of their master aren't met, angels can't move an inch.

As per Joseph, the Bible clearly states in Matthew 1:19 that Joseph was a just man.

There's a difference between saying something is possible and saying that it's true.

Faith is not just in action. Faith is from the inside. In fact, it is faith that produces the actions. You see, some people copy actions, without having the faith behind it. So when you just do things without the faith on the inside, then you might as well not do anything. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS THE CASE WITH THIS FAMILY!.

Have you ever considered that maybe Jesus' reference to the mustard seed wasn't physical? It wasn't in terms of size? Please try and think along that line. Maybe it was in reference to what comes out of a mustard seed. Faith can't be quantified physically, so it's not possible that Jesus meant it physically.

I wonder what I did to deserve such insults.Also, if it makes any difference to you,you should know that I don't drink.

Get Out! 

May kelly:

@topic: no matter what man must die! and prayer saves faster than medicine

Tudor stop arguing with mactao I have concluded he's sick upstairs

Delusion is absolute belief inspite of no evidence. There's no evidence for all the miraculous claims in the bible from creation to the noah's flood, right to the miracles and resurrection of jesus. NO EVIDENCE.

mactao:

Tudor, that statement doesn't involve God in anyway. It's a direct insult at me. Or has the meaning of insult changed?

People have experiences with God everyday. Me inclusive. The fact that you don't believe or you've never had one doesn't mean it's all untrue.

Also, if deluded drunk isn't an insult, then I wonder what is.

I rest my case.

Ogaga4Luv:

Get Out! 

May kelly:

@topic: no matter what man must die! and prayer saves faster than medicine

May kelly:

@topic: no matter what man must die! and prayer saves faster than medicine

May kelly:

anyway sha -Jesus said "I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, If I tell you of Heavenly things"? John 3 verse 12

Men of little faith will always doubt the power of prayer - I[b] said to u, Sliver and Gold I have Not, but Get Up and Walk in the[/b] NAME of Jesus

mactao:

I've given every argument the way a Christian would. You have written them off as delusion and Christian's crap. I wonder what more you want.

Ogaga4Luv:

I was thinking you we learn something new from this poor thread but was badly shorked only too see your reaction on this issue,even though. . .keep preaching without self understanding .,i know you still have lon way ahead the journey my dear 'but not pointing at the irritation you did me after reading your previous post.,please i beg you-try and follow up by using your brain oooo.Note: lack of understanding has cause so many not to stand., i guest we are together?

May kelly:

we can't be together "darkness and light has nothing to share

Often u make me understand ur sick in the head, but i don't mean to hurt you because ur already hurt and in bondage, though sorry. You talk as if u don't have understanding - of course your master is a master of total confusion.

Human diseases are from Satan and his agents.

Note: they call it religion, we call it Christians religion, and some see it as a medium for "seeking for higher powers" - where is ur stand - hence Satan is lower and cultic pls leave this forum "Religion”

Ogaga4Luv:

And i wonder if it's an Abormination to see the teeth of the Godless person' Oh my! the Ungodly are not your enemies if really you are ready to understand what it take's ,realise and masure with your brain how you know this so called superficial being"God"- as the creator of this world and entire living and non-living thing's. You can just be serious my dear,i have notice how you fastly grow annoyed with an "Unbeliever" in God,and if any person come's to think about it everything's have a beginning,if really someone'something describe as God created the world ,but you think God must Originate or start from somewhere?

May kelly:

The teeth of the Ungodly.