Happy sunday to you all, hope una go church and have decided to truly repent. Anyways I get matter that bothers me a lot. The opinions of nairalanders might be inconsequential when an entire nation of 170mil is considered. But still its opinions and differences indicate a possible trend afterall.

I go through the political section and I see three things.
1. The yorubas and the igbos assume they are enemies and can't stand each other.
2. The northerners are united to any cause , be it evil , good or outright callousness

3. Most nigerians have lost faith in the nigeria project and prefer to waste time being incoherent opositions .

Look at korea, look at the americas during the civil war, look at most recently sudan. The division they sought occured between northern and southern lines. Thanks to coastal advantage, the south always prospers. Look at nigeria , a perfect example is the unity by some unfortunate governors who came out to declare stleath support for fulani herdsmen attacks. They know its wrong , they know these people are murderers who hope to carry on their activities, yet they stood united in their opinion. Everybody knows that , if only oil was found in the chad basin in economic quantities, the north would have broken off a long time ago.

Why then aren't the entire south a more united front despite our differences. We have a lot in common than what divides us, we are religiously tolerant, we have a large portion of educated people who could assume an elite class when needed, we aren't murderous no matter what, our union as a united south would forster the benefits of diversity. So what are the differences amongst the yoruba and the igbos on nairaland that fosters all the hate. I believe all these aren't representative of real situations . I have many yoruba friends and many yorubas have igbos as friends.

A unified southern nigeria, would create a platform for real democratic practise, we will be away from the born to rule people who encourage murderous behaviour. There is need for a unified southern nigeria and middle belt. We will disagree but we won't kill each other for it. Its not natural to us

If you do not believe Nigeria can be unified, what then gives you the hope that SW can be brothers-in-arms with the rest of the South? It's all about selfish interests.

DesChyko:
If you do not believe Nigeria can be unified, what then gives you the hope that SW can be brothers-in-arms with the rest of the South? It's all about selfish interests.

there is great need for selfish intrests to thrive due to the current system we operate. The north has dominated everything fro$ inception. Thus the entire south has to settle for crumbs and this creates the power play. The yorubas were instrumental to apc wining the election in 2015. But I tell you that a northern presidential candidate in 2019 for the two major parties , will make the SE and SS the lovely political bride. The entire nigerian structure is a northern affair and thus the south are pitted against each other always in a quest to be a part of scheme of things. With the north gone. I believe we would have a freer playoing field.

Eddygourdo:
there is great need for selfish intrests to thrive due to the current system we operate. The north has dominated everything fro$ inception. Thus the entire south has to settle for crumbs and this creates the power play. The yorubas were instrumental to apc wining the election in 2015. But I tell you that a northern presidential candidate in 2019 for the two major parties , will make the SE and SS the lovely political bride. The entire nigerian structure is a northern affair and thus the south are pitted against each other always in a quest to be a part of scheme of things. With the north gone. I believe we would have a freer playoing field.

I wouldn't know the new face of the elections with that. They obviously present more population figures, have more states. It's certain the votes will always swing their way if it comes to North against South. On paper, it looks like an exercise in futility.

Igbos will never want to live with hypocrite.

The only conference that the SESS will attend with yorubas is one in which they have decided they are now tired of fulani problem. yorubas are not yet tired of fulani domination so why should the SESS bloc invite them for any southern unity conference?

The SESS bloc have never depended on the yorubas for safety or anything in the nigerian project. Infact yorubas have always opposed anything that benefits SESS bloc. From resource control, to sea ports etc etc.

Who are the biggest haters of Kanu a respected SESS personality in the South?~yoruba. How on earth do you successfully unite with such a people?

When they are tired of fulani, we will know.

MirabelArode:
The only conference that the SESS will attend with yorubas is one in which they have decided they are now tired of fulani problem. yorubas are not yet tired of fulani domination so why should the SESS bloc invite them for any southern unity conference?

The SESS bloc have never depended on the yorubas for safety or anything in the nigerian project. Infact yorubas have always opposed anything that benefits SESS bloc. From resource coontrol, to sea ports etc etc.

Who are the biggest haters of Kanu a respected SESS personality in the South?~yoruba. How on earth do you successfully unite with such a people?

When they are tired of fulani, we will know.

believe you me , they are tired but still maintaining the status quo in this dog eat dog nigeria. If a confrence on a southern agenda aimed at breaking off is formed, the yorubas will go with it. Unfornately they refuse to take such sides now that such issues are moot thanks to the northern agenda of one nigeria by fire by force. The yorubas have no intrest with the fulani, they don't share major business interest that isn't shareed betwwn the fulani and other regions.

The nnamdi kanu agenda never took them along, he tagged them the enemy and called them animals with respect to the zoo. Who would wanna be associated with such a man or his agenda. The southern agenda should be a deliberate strategy act of pooled interest aimed and breaking away, resource control , democracy and smaller population

Eddygourdo:
believe you me , they are tired but still maintaining the status quo in this dog eat dog nigeria. If a confrence on a southern agenda aimed at breaking off is formed, the yorubas will go with it. Unfornately they refuse to take such sides now that such issues are moot thanks to the northern agenda of one nigeria by fire by force. The yorubas have no intrest with the fulani, they don't share major business interest that isn't shareed betwwn the fulani and other regions.

The nnamdi kanu agenda never took them along, he tagged them the enemy and called them animals with respect to the zoo. Who would wanna be associated with such a man or his agenda. The southern agenda should be a deliberate strategy act of pooled interest aimed and breaking away, resource control , democracy and smaller population

Are you yoruba?
If the yorubas will also start championing the dissolution of this country then we in the SESS may invite them to a southern unity conference. The fulanis will be overwhelmed if they raise their own kanus in the SW but can they?

yorubas now have enough soldiers, so they can no longer cowardly claim they were overwhelmed by hausa soldiers as they did in '67. Their own ball is in their court.

I forgot to add. If kanu had included yorubas in his freedom agenda. Heaven knows, the yorubas would have called him a landgrabber and a common thief. They would have sucessfully discredited him.

Till today they still beg the SESS bloc to denounce kanu, calling him a fraudster. yoruba don't deserve any form of pity and alliance.

Yoruba never wanted nigeria from the onset it was the callous backstanding conniving azikwe who went ahead to kiss the foot of the northern emirate for a united nigeria
yoruba raising a kanu,gosh we've raised betters who stood against impunity in nigeria and who doesnt go around insulting others
never shall we be united with greedy,boisterous and self serving serf that would start a war against hausas and comeback to contest under their platform

MirabelArode:


Are you yoruba?
If the yorubas will also start championing the dissolution of this country then we in the SESS may invite them to a southern unity conference. The fulanis will be overwhelmed if they raise their own kanus in the SW but can they?

yorubas now have enough soldiers, so they can no longer cowardly claim they were overwhelmed by hausa soldiers as they did in '67. Their own ball is in their court.

Balkan:
Igbos will never want live hypocrite.

Nawa o
The hatred is so deep in you that you type nonsense

MirabelArode:


Are you yoruba?
If the yorubas will also start championing the dissolution of this country then we in the SESS may invite them to a southern unity conference. The fulanis will be overwhelmed if they raise their own kanus in the SW but can they?

yorubas now have enough soldiers, so they can no longer cowardly claim they were overwhelmed by hausa soldiers as they did in '67. Their own ball is in their court.

the yorubas are gaining from the current governmant so it appears incredulous that they will champion such cause. But they are a progressive people who would be able to identify the opporunities a southern agenda could have. Truth is that no single region could be viable in tottality on their own. With the alliance withe the yoruba, many loopholes would be closed.

Most of the hatred against the yoruba are misguided and not reflective of issues as they truly occured or could even be past issues perpertrated by the long dead and buried

Eddygourdo:
[s]the yorubas are gaining from the current governmant so it appears incredulous that they will champion such cause. But they are a progressive people who would be able to identify the opporunities a southern agenda could have. Truth is that no single region could be viable in tottality on their own. With the alliance withe the yoruba, many loopholes would be closed.

Most of the hatred against the yoruba are misguided and not reflective of issues as they truly occured or could even be past issues perpertrated by the long dead and buried[/s]

Propaganda! you yorubas have never identified with any 'Pan-south' ideology. As long as easterners are kicked out of government and politicallly emasculated, it is fine by you. You are the weakest link in the south. Your people defend the caliphate even more than the fulanis themselves.

Why is Prof Ishaq Akintola not spitting fire against the fulani as he always done for the caliphate?
Why is that it is your christians that are now begging the SESS for an alliance now that the fulani albatross stares you in the face?

Talking about hate, before Kanu made his statements and called you out the Oba of lagos threatened the lives of Easterners because of his alliance with the fulanis. You all want everyone to forget this fact and call out Kanu for responding to your Oba's threat but everyone can't be daft because yorubas want them to be.

MirabelArode:


Are you yoruba?
If the yorubas will also start championing the dissolution of this country then we in the SESS may invite them to a southern unity conference. The fulanis will be overwhelmed if they raise their own kanus in the SW but can they?

yorubas now have enough soldiers, so they can no longer cowardly claim they were overwhelmed by hausa soldiers as they did in '67. Their own ball is in their court.

The problem is , SE views SW as a betrayer and no matter how much we try, we are blackmailed to play ball. And Kanu actually incited the whole Igbo youths against us by picking our weaknesses and magnifying it. That has heightened the suspicion and I dare say that Kanu has helped divide the South than any other person. If anyone think the alienation of the SW is a blessing, they must know that we'll all be in this mess together.

MirabelArode:


Are you yoruba?
If the yorubas will also start championing the dissolution of this country then we in the SESS may invite them to a southern unity conference. The fulanis will be overwhelmed if they raise their own kanus in the SW but can they?

yorubas now have enough soldiers, so they can no longer cowardly claim they were overwhelmed by hausa soldiers as they did in '67. Their own ball is in their court.

The problem is , SE views SW as a betrayer and no matter how much we try, we are blackmailed to play ball. And Kanu actually incited the whole Igbo youths against us by picking our weaknesses and magnifying it. That has heightened the suspicion and I dare say that Kanu has helped divide the South than any other person. If anyone think the alienation of the SW is a blessing, they must know that we'll all be in this mess together.

Olabestonic001:



The problem is , SE views SW as a betrayer and no matter how much we try, we are blackmailed to play ball. And Kanu actually incited the whole Igbo youths against us by picking our weaknesses and magnifying it. That has heightened the suspicion and I dare say that Kanu has helped divide the South than any other person. If anyone think the alienation of the SW is a blessing, they must know that we'll all be in this mess together.

Before Kanu called out the yorubas there was an Oba of lagoon who openly threatened the Easterners. Do you want us to convieniently forget that? Pls reply me, I would like to read your defense here.

Olabestonic001:


he problem is , SE views SW as a betrayer and no matter how much we try, we are blackmailed to play ball. And Kanu actually incited the whole Igbo youths against us by picking our weaknesses and magnifying it. That has heightened the suspicion and I dare say that Kanu has helped divide the South than any other person. If anyone think the alienation of the SW is a blessing, they must know that we'll all be in this mess together.

Stop wasting your time with that coward, the jobless man can never use his brain. Can you imagine the shameless liar saying Kanu responded to Oba threat. Same Kanu that have been threatening the Yorubas before the election or Oba saga. I just hate liars.

MirabelArode:


Before Kanu called out the yorubas their was an Oba of lagoon who openly threatened the Easterners. Do you want us to convieniently forget that? Pls reply me, I would like to read your defense here.

You are a devislish being and reason you continue to hide behind different monikers to spread your wicked lies. You even had to claim Ishekiri just to cause problems here, we know who you are but you have no shame.

ObinnaIzuora:
[s]

You are a devislish being and reason you continue to hide behind different monikers to spread your wicked lies. You even had to claim Ishekiri just to cause problems here, we know who you are but you have no shame. [/s]

What are you talking?

Fellow Igbos, the Yoruba Man cannot be trusted! The greater Igbo nation must have nothing to with the Yoruba nation because they the conduit which the North will use to get at us. No Igbo/Yoruba unity! Not now, not ever!

Yes we need to be united but not with the yorubas. Say no to Yorubas!

But honestly I believe we in the better south i.e. SE and SS can handle any challenge we face in this country including a civil war. I don't think in all honesty that we need the Yorubas even in the slightest.

Olabestonic001:



[s]The problem is , SE views SW as a betrayer and no matter how much we try, we are blackmailed to play ball. And Kanu actually incited the whole Igbo youths against us by picking our weaknesses and magnifying it. That has heightened the suspicion and I dare say that Kanu has helped divide the South than any other person. If anyone think the alienation of the SW is a blessing, they must know that we'll all be in this mess together.[/s]

Trash, igbos are not in anyway seeking for any cooperation with the Yorubas. We can handle any threat we face squarely. IPOB,has been matching progressively forward to the extent that even EU has started deliberations on Biafra, so if we can achieve this on our own what makes you think we can't handle Those ragtag herdsmen? Even when we fought the entire country including Britain gallantly for three years.

Just yesterday many fulanis residing Enugu had to seek camps in the barracks, we don't need any from of cooperation with the Yorubas, I mean in anyway. They should just leave us alone and go their way.

Thank God my generation is waking up to the shenanigans being played out in Nigeria.

MirabelArode:


Propaganda! you yorubas have never identified with any 'Pan-south' ideology. As long as easterners are kicked out of government and politicallly emasculated, it is fine by you. You are the weakest link in the south. Your people defend the caliphate even more than the fulanis themselves.

Why is Prof Ishaq Akintola not spitting fire against the fulani as he always done for the caliphate?
Why is that it is your christians that are now begging the SESS for an alliance now that the fulani albatross stares you in the face?

Talking about hate, before Kanu made his statements and called you out the Oba of lagos threatened the lives of Easterners because of his alliance with the fulanis. You all want everyone to forget this fact and call out Kanu for responding to your Oba's threat but everyone can't be daft because yorubas want them to be.

as unfortunate as what I will say is, I am igbo. But unlike you I don't see hatred everywhere. I don't wanna be the sensitive igbo man who sees enemies eveywhere. The oba of lagos made a statement , a political statement which although wrong was taken out of context. Nnamdi made treasonable statements that should not be made in the century by anybody. When you say the yorubas have a dialliance with the fulani, what exactly do you mean.
I hate when references are made to imconsequential pieces of history which most people. Do not understand what went wrong there. As far as I am concerned , the yorubas despite their islamic inclination have no meaninful relationship with the north albeit a political one in this current structure. They understand the politics and have aligned themselves with powers at federal level. That the SESS hasn't been able to do that, should be our loss in this current nigeria. Enough of your propaganist hatred for the yoruba who are doing what we could have done to them if we had the same political onus and structure.

I seek a new nigeria comprising or northern nigeria and southern nigeria. The yoruba have more value in that structure after the SS and least the igbos. So whjat is ur problem withj people whose strategic alliance in a southern agenda will bring more good than bad. What exactly. Stop this propaganda of hatred for slight issues that borders on ignorance

1Tkester:
Yes we need to be united but not with the yorubas. Say no to Yorubas!

But honestly I believe we in the better south i.e. SE and SS can handle any challenge we face in this country including a civil war. I don't think in all honesty that we need the Yorubas even in the slightest.

can you judge the true nature of a man in war times ? If you do are you correct. Current nigeria is a war zone. A tribal and religious war zone where the north has all the generals. What do you expect the yorubas to do? We are being marginalised in the east because we didn't play the political game well like the yorubas. Should they be killed for that ?

gidgiddy:
Fellow Igbos, the Yoruba Man cannot be trusted! The greater Igbo nation must have nothing to with the Yoruba nation because they the conduit which the North will use to get at us. No Igbo/Yoruba unity! Not now, not ever!

you are right about the conduit part, but the SS says the same about the igbos yet you wanna join them

Eddygourdo:
you are right about the conduit part, but the SS says the same about the igbos yet you wanna join them

Igbos and Yorubas are tribes, SS is not. So unless you know the tribe you are talking about, that comment is baseless. Igbos are even the largest tribe in the so called SS.

Olabestonic001:


The problem is , SE views SW as a betrayer and no matter how much we try, we are blackmailed to play ball. And Kanu actually incited the whole Igbo youths against us by picking our weaknesses and magnifying it. That has heightened the suspicion and I dare say that Kanu has helped divide the South than any other person. If anyone think the alienation of the SW is a blessing, they must know that we'll all be in this mess together.

Shattap there...shattap I say. You talk about Kanu inciting the Igbos against Yorubas...let's put that in context: Has any Igbo man ever physically attacked any yoruba in the history of Nigeria? None...yet you continue to flame this useless mendacity. Where were you when Oba Akiolu wanted to drown Igbos in the Lagoon?...you hypocrites. Where were you when Yoruba Dallas doctor called for Igbo pogrom? Hypocrites. Ever since the history of Nigeria, yorubas have been the one perpetrating evil on the Igbos for no reason if not borne of gratuitous envy. Tell me one thing...just one thing Igbos have ever done to yorubas in the history of Nigeria? You can't name one but I can name you several wicked things done to the Igbos by Yorubas for absolutely no reason. Enough of this hypocrisy!

I looked at the deaths and Amputees in Enugu, and I can't stop blaming yorubas for these. Yes I blame you people for the continued deaths in this country... for refusing to end this useless contraption because you benefits from Lagos...ports, airport, e.t.c. at the expense of others.

Eddygourdo:
[s]as unfortunate as what I will say is, I am igbo. But unlike you I don't see hatred everywhere. I don't wanna be the sensitive igbo man who sees enemies eveywhere. The oba of lagos made a statement , a political statement which although wrong was taken out of context. Nnamdi made treasonable statements that should not be made in the century by anybody. When you say the yorubas have a dialliance with the fulani, what exactly do you mean.
I hate when references are made to imconsequential pieces of history which most people. Do not understand what went wrong there. As far as I am concerned , the yorubas despite their islamic inclination have no meaninful relationship with the north albeit a political one in this current structure. They understand the politics and have aligned themselves with powers at federal level. That the SESS hasn't been able to do that, should be our loss in this current nigeria. Enough of your propaganist hatred for the yoruba who are doing what we could have done to them if we had the same political onus and structure.

I seek a new nigeria comprising or northern nigeria and southern nigeria. The yoruba have more value in that structure after the SS and least the igbos. So whjat is ur problem withj people whose strategic alliance in a southern agenda will bring more good than bad. What exactly[/s]. Stop this propaganda of hatred for slight issues that borders on ignorance

Trash, first you're not Igbo and will never be. Listen, we in the better south i.e. SE and SS have wisen up, we don't need any shenanigans in our midst.

Coming to the hate speech you said, where were you when oba of Lagos asked Igbos for no just cause to drown inside the lagoon. Where were you when Dr Ariyo Biyemi (a Texas based doctor) advocated for igbos to be wiped out with a nuclear bomb. Please don't come to spoil this beautiful thread with this your hypocritical holier than thou attitude. Leave us alone and mind your business.

1Tkester:
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Trash, first you're not Igbo and will never be. Listen, we in the better south i.e. SE and SS have wisen up, we don't need any shenanigans in our midst.

Coming to the hate speech you said, where were you when oba of Lagos asked Igbos for no just cause to drown inside the lagoon. Where were you when Dr Ariyo Biyemi (a Texas based doctor) advocated for igbos to be wiped out with a nuclear bomb. Please don't come to spoil this beautiful thread with this your hypocritical holier than thou attitude. Leave us alone and mind your business.

The eddygourdo guy is pretending to be what he is not. When anyone desperately wants to you still see Kanu as a fraudster even after all that is happening with the fulani, (events that kanu warned about severally). Then you should know where he is coming from.

gidgiddy:


Igbos and Yorubas are tribes, SS is not. So unless you know the tribe you are talking about, that comment is baseless. Igbos are even the largest tribe in the so called SS.

who told you the igbos are the largest tribe in the SS . Stop being delusional. Name the SS states and please name the tribes in them and state how igbos are the largest

the yorubas are easily manipulated by the north. Note; i am NDeltan not Ibo

MirabelArode:


The eddygourdo guy is pretending to be what he is not. When anyone desperately wants to you still see Kanu as a fraudster even after all that is happening with the fulani, (events that kanu warned about severally). Then you should know where he is coming from.

wow. Kanu this kanu that. You all are the igbo impostors. Mark my words in heaven and on earth. No propaganda of kanu will come to pass. This thread supercedes all ur eeasoning. No body with hatred in his heart can change the world. Hitler tried it , mussolini tried it , and these were great men. Not a deluded person like kanu who saw a niche in uneducated igbos. I will misplace you in which ever village you come from in igbo land. Call it here and watch me shame yo