ISLAMIC INDOCTRINATION & MUHAMMAD'S CLAIMS - By Mumin Salih (Muslim Apostate)
DISCLAIMER: "Say: "If (even) I go astray, I shall stray only to my own loss. ... Say: If I err, I err only to my own loss; and if I go aright, it is because of what my Lord reveals to me." - Qur'an Surah Saba (34), Verse No. (50)
Muslims are reasonably happy with their fate in the after life because, on the judgment day, they do not have to answer Allah’s question:
Why did you not believe in Mohammed and his message?
As a young Muslim, I occasionally tested some of my friends and asked them how would they respond if Allah rephrases the question as follows: Why did you believe Mohammed and his claims? Their responses were variable but were always preceded by a period of shock because they never thought of such possibility.
The continuous Islamic indoctrination causes various degrees of brain damage that narrows the horizon of imagination and makes reasoning a one direction process. Their is a continuous flow of Islamic information from the school classes to the television programs and through all conceivable visual and aural inputs to the Muslim’s brain. The Muslims’ minds do not have a chance to contemplate and reflect on that continuous flow of Islamic details. A simple rephrasing of a question can put the Islamic mind in jeopardy.
Mohammed and Gabriel
I often wondered about the events that took place in the cave of Hiraa on the first encounter between Mohammed and Gabriel. Again, this perfectly logical inquest is located in one of those no go areas that the Muslims minds do not visit. The events of Hiraa are surrounded by many un-answered questions, which I never dared to allow my Islamic mind to investigate. Let us consider how Mohammed received the revelation from a purely Islamic point of view. Let us put aside all the doubts and accusations we may have about Mohammed and his conduct. Mohammed had a habit of regularly disappearing from Mecca’s social life for a few weeks, which he used to spend in a cave in the mountain of Hiraa, just outside Mecca. One day, a strange entity appeared to Mohammed in his cave and, without any introductions, ordered the illiterate Mohammed to read without even specifying what to read. This is how Mohammed later described the events to his wife Aysha
(1): “He (Jibreel) caught me forcefully and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, “I do not know how to read.” Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, “I do not know how to read ” Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said: “ ikraa bismi rabbika ….”
(2): Mohammed, overwhelmed with fear, obliged and then went home shaken and traumatized. Reflecting on that Islamic story, whoever that stranger was, he was impolite and disrespectful, hardly an angel at all. There is hardly any resemblance between this Jibreel/Gabriel and the one who visited Maryam mother of Isa and treated her with all respect, like real angels do. Didn't this Jibreel/Gabriel know that he was talking to a prophet of a very high status, the most senior of all prophets? Mohammed was only second to Allah in this universe, and Jibreel/Gabriel should have known that ‘fact’ very well, so what made him behave in such a rude way in that first encounter?
Mohammed went home in shock and spent the following few weeks in shivers and fears. His wife, Khadija, sought the help of her cousin Waraqa ibn Naufal, a heretic Christian, who immediately diagnosed the condition as a sign that Mohammed was going to be a prophet and Khadija agreed with the diagnosis.
What made Waraqa and Khadija be so convinced that Mohammed was destined to become a prophet or had encountered a real angel when demonic/Jinni were a common feature in Arabian caves? The available information about what took place in the cave did not describe an angel but a discourteous and abusive spirit with no signs of politeness; he even did not introduce himself and did not say “assalamu alaykum”- the Islamic greeting.
A few weeks after this incident, Mohammed did claim to be a prophet and started his campaign to convert the Arabs, and the world, to his religion. Islamically speaking, Islam is not optional but ‘a mandatory global religion’ which everyone must embrace. Consequently, from the Islamic point of view, when Mohammed communicated with Jibreel/Gabriel, he did so on behalf of all of us, all mankind. Therefore, we have the right to ask:
Why did Mohammed believe Jibreel/Gabriel?
He did so without making any effort to verify the identity of the nondescript strange entity. Even if that stranger claimed to be Jibreel/Gabriel and also claimed that he carried a message from Allah, would that be an enough reason to believe him?
Has the possibilities that the stranger was a bogus spirit of darkness from the pits of hell, deceptive or misleading all to hell been ruled out?
The Arabs also believed in ‘jinn’ and other mythical characters, were those ruled out?
And the list of possibilities goes on…
When somebody comes to me and makes an extraordinary claim, I would certainly ask for extraordinary evidence, and I think anybody would. Mohammed did not ask for any evidence; He foolishly took the spirit’s words for granted and believed him and wanted every one of us to believe him as well. Some people may argue that it was up to Mohammed to believe or not, it was his personal and intellectual decision. We accept his personal and intellectual choice to believe anything and be a fool, because only fools believe extraordinary claims without asking for extraordinary evidence. However, in this issue of Jibreel/Gabriel and revelation, Mohammed believed he was representing us, all those billions of mankind, so it wasn’t a personal choice. He should have respected the intelligence of others and asked for a satisfactory evidence that he could take back to them. Mohammed failed to do any of that, he did not even try. The paradox is that he insisted on that we all must agree with him.
Islamically, mankind can only blame themselves if they do not believe Mohammed’s claims. Any doubts by anyone about any of Mohammed’s claims is a good enough reason for harsh punishment in life and after death. That is the way Islam is. It looks as if we are just being unlucky because until Mohammed became a prophet, the true God had a very different policy about human doubts and evidence. Long before Mohammed, the true God used to accept that humans may have doubts and may need evidence to satisfy their intelligence. True God Yahweh was happy to demonstrate His capabilities to those prophets who asked for evidence, not Muhammad's god Allah. Shouldn't you be skeptical considering the devil can masquerade as an angel of light?
NOTE: Do Muslims ever contemplate on this disclaimer in Qur'an?
"Say: "If (even) I go astray, I shall stray only to my own loss. ... Say: If I err, I err only to my own loss; and if I go aright, it is because of what my Lord reveals to me." - Qur'an Surah Saba (34), Verse No. (50)

Will be right back!

Every faith must in itself be a path of light through the darkness that becloud human sphere. Faith, beliefs must demonstrate the core exigencies of God's love, perseverance and acceptance of human weakness.
Any faith that cannot be self propagating through extraordinary occurrence like the dead rising, the lame walking etc is not providing sufficient proofs of its own potency for humans, limited in power of execution of such do submit to such extraordinary renditions.But when evil take up the pretence of good then we can but resort to the transformational peace we attain, the secured lives we live and the path of progress humanity is found when we bear within ourselves, our faith in God renown for His good deeds, never will He force His place on us but always wanting to show His love. God is love and never confuses.

Muslims have been known to be delusional and confused people cos angel Gabriel is really polite and gentle ...he visited Mary and Zach not pressing u down stuffs

Prove was given to Moses,Elijah,Joshua,Jeremiah and co.

Revelations 20:
10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

kallmemrB:
Muslims have been known to be delusional and confused people cos angel Gabriel is really polite and gentle ...he visited Mary and Zach not pressing u down stuffs

Prove was given to Moses,Elijah,Joshua,Jeremiah and co.

the angel that visited muhammed is NOT gabriel, it is satan, angel don't possessed human, in fact angel gabriel only bring good news to humans, why is the quran give him violence nature ?

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:
The Prophet added, “THE ANGEL CAUGHT ME
(forcefully) AND PRESS ME SO HARD THAT I COULD NOT BEAR IT ANY MORE
. He then
released me and again asked me to read
and I replied, ‘I do not know how to
read.’ Thereupon he caught me again
and pressed me a second time till I
could not bear it any more. He then
released me and again asked me to read
but again I replied, ‘I do not know how to
read (or what shall I read)?’ Thereupon he
caught me for the third time and
pressed me, and then released me and
said, ‘Read in the name of your Lord, who
has created (all that exists) has created man
from a clot.

FOAMING AT THE MOUTH
Mizanul MizanuŸl Haqq, page 345:
“After an accession of shivering and shutting
his eyes, there used to come over him what
resembled a swoon, HIS FACE WOULD FOAM AND HE WOULD ROAR LIKE A YOUNG CAMEL.”

Mark 9:20: “So they brought him. When the
spirit saw Jesus, it immediately threw the
boy into a convulsion. He fell to the ground
and rolled around, FOAMING AT THE MOUTH.”

MAKING UNCONTROLLABLE GRUNTS AND
NOISES
Mizanul MizanuŸl Haqq, page 345:
“…there used to come over him…and he
would roar like a young camel.”

Luke 9:39: The spirit seizes him and he
suddenly screams; it throws him into
convulsions so that he foams at the
mouth. It scarcely ever leaves him and is
destroying him.

BECOMING SUICIDAL
Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah:
So I (Muhammad) read it, and he (Gabriel)
departed from me. And I awoke from my
sleep, and it was as though these words
were written on my heart. Now none of
God’s creatures was more horrible to me
than a poet or a man possessed: I could not
even look at them. I thought, “WOE IS ME POET OR POSSESSED– Never shall Quraysh
say this of me! I WILL GO TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN AND THROW MYSELF DOWN that I
may kill myself and gain rest.”

When Jesus cast out demons from a man, they
entered a herd of swine. What did the
possessed swine do? They became suicidal.
They killed themselves by jumping off from a
cliff into the sea where they drowned.

Matthew 8:32: Jesus said to them, “Go!”
The demons came out and went into the
pigs. Suddenly, the whole herd rushed
down the cliff into the sea and died in
the waters.