Apelex:



[Sanusi succeeded his grand uncle.he knew..its also lineage just like most traditional rulers........

You are not in a dynasty. The Oba's role in remains ceremonial
Though it is only naturally for to bestow respect to such traditional rulers.
Its just like the Queen of England she has no real powers but is widely respected ]

WiseBully:
Where are the noisemakers who were spewing poo in the previous thread? Note, Bini traditional institution is far more advanced, well-structured than your country Nigeria. There is no single drop of political permutation about who succeeds the Oba in Bini Kingdom. It's a divine right of the first son of the Oba. Deal with with it!

Cc: Demmdemm, 2n2k, neocortex, orlandoOwoh...

Apelex:
People can say whatever they like.

The Governor can't appoint the Oba --YES
But he has to officially approve and acknowledge it.
Even the emir sanusi got an appointment letter from his governor. That's the only way the Government can recognize them officially. Ordinarily our constitution has no place for traditional rulers



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Demmdemm:


Ur ignorance nauseates me still. Oshiomole makes a political correction and not that ur oba superceeds the law of the land. Governors can deposed an oba and thats a fact.

dukie25:

In the post you quoted, you'd have noticed I did say a regent would be installed in the absence of an Oba. There's only one ruling house in Edo culture, same rule applies to the Oba's Dukes (Enijies) across Edo state.

xxgig:
don't stress your self
some persons will always put sentiment to whatever issue is placed before them.

popsonbj:


My brother, don't over hype the position of traditional rulers in modern day Nigeria because there is no roles/place
for them, for now, in the constitution.The appointment of any vacant traditional stool in Nigerian community
is at the mercy of the state governor according to section 19 (1) of the Traditional Rulers and Chiefs Law, 1979 (as amended) Law of Edo state of Nigeria. The same law also empowers the governor to remove any erring traditional ruler. In view of this, no traditional ruler can be too powerful in Nigeria that a state governor does not have the power to approve or ratify his appointment.Although the king makers may select the right candidatefor the position ut ultimately the governor MUST approve or ractify the thier chioce.The law empowers the governor to do so.Also, no traditional ruler is too powerful to be dethroned or removed.If Sultan of Sokoto (Alhaji Dasuki) could be removed, then who is Oba of Benin that can not be remove or his appointment is not be subjected to governor's approval? It would be recall that Chief Obafemi Awolowo removed Oba Olagbegi,the Olowo of Owo,from the throne and no heaven fell. Col. Joshua Madaki removed Emir of Muri Emirate , from the throne during the military rule, no heaven fell.Please be informed that all traditional rulers in Nigeria are at the mercy of state governors

Demmdemm:


Ur ignorance nauseates me still. Oshiomole makes a political correction and not that ur oba superceeds the law of the land. Governors can deposed an oba and thats a fact.

Consultville:
I don't like the way people talk when it comes to cultural issues.

Is Benin Kingdom bigger than Edo State.

Get some sense please, without the Governor's approval, the King is a mere Chief, please don't underestimate the powers of a Governor. Read your constitution

nelronaldo:

first I won't argue with you because it shows you are ignorant about the customs and tradition of the Benin Kingdom... Please note! the Governor never appoints the Oba and he is not going to appoint this one. he is only giving approval for the rites that needs to be done for a successful coronation to be done.. Also dude, I really don't care about your Sultan but comparing him to the Oba of Benin is stupid. THE OBA OF BENIN IS THE FIRST SON OF AN INDEGENIOUS WIFE.... it is given by birth, will you give what rightfully belongs to your first son to any other child or a stranger? will you allow a stranger place an outside in the position rightfully belongs to your first son? yes, the Nigeria constitution doesn't have a place for tradition/traditional rulers, it doesn't mean they are not respected or honoured by the governor or constitution. Oshiomole's letter doesn't determine who the next king is or will be, it only means "yes, the Benin pple can go ahead with the coronation of the already known heir apparent"
the heir apparent to this next king is already known and has been sent to a special place where he is being protected by the gods. so Oshiomole or any governor can never decide to remove a king in Benin Kingdom. the Only reason they remove Emir and Sultan is because they are normally done by appointment. The Bini throne is hereditary and is the first son's birthright.

dukie25:
I wasted nearly an hour this morning lecturing people on Bini/Edo culture.
The facts are:
Oshiomhole can't appoint the Oba of Benin, it is hereditary, it's a birthright different from the Oni of Ife, the Sultan of Sokoto or the Emir of Kano.

Eheneden Erediauwa becomes Oba at the death of his father, no other person can occupy that position as long as he is alive.
If Eheneden dies today, his first son even if he is an infant would be the Oba, regents would then steer him till he is old enough to take over.

shala01:

Oshiomole rubber stamp approval means nothing. The oba is the oba, whether the government recognizes him or not his subjects recognize him

bokohalal:

Not in Benin . There will be chaos and no government wants that.

Demmdemm:


Under the laws of the land which even ur oba dares not to flout, oshiomole approval is all that matters. The Bini Kingdom is a conquered Kingdom by the British who has returned such to the Nigerian govt. Nigerian laws superceeds ur local laws. Even in Bini, ur oba knows his boundaries. If ur oba likes let him flout any of our laws claiming he was to follow ancient laws ( eg killing any soul) and see him spend the rest of his life in kirikiri.

Apelex:



You are just blinded by your cultural ethics.. The law is the law..and it gives the power to the Governor to even dissolve or remove the Oba if need be..........

bokohalal:

You are not Edo. Face your governor approved king

nelronaldo:

first I won't argue with you because it shows you are ignorant about the customs and tradition of the Benin Kingdom... Please note! the Governor never appoints the Oba and he is not going to appoint this one. he is only giving approval for the rites that needs to be done for a successful coronation to be done.. Also dude, I really don't care about your Sultan but comparing him to the Oba of Benin is stupid. THE OBA OF BENIN IS THE FIRST SON OF AN INDEGENIOUS WIFE.... it is given by birth, will you give what rightfully belongs to your first son to any other child or a stranger? will you allow a stranger place an outside in the position rightfully belongs to your first son? yes, the Nigeria constitution doesn't have a place for tradition/traditional rulers, it doesn't mean they are not respected or honoured by the governor or constitution. Oshiomole's letter doesn't determine who the next king is or will be, it only means "yes, the Benin pple can go ahead with the coronation of the already known heir apparent"
the heir apparent to this next king is already known and has been sent to a special place where he is being protected by the gods. so Oshiomole or any governor can never decide to remove a king in Benin Kingdom. the Only reason they remove Emir and Sultan is because they are normally done by appointment. The Bini throne is hereditary and is the first son's birthright.

Demmdemm:


I speak the law u are talking emotionally. Is ur oba above the laws of FRN? Even he himself knows his boundaries.
Of cos it can happen and it will if he goes beyond his boundaries. What chaos can superceeds boko haram chaos in that ur small enclave? If the FRN can overcome boko haram then what chaos are u anticipating?

Demmdemm:


Under the laws of the land which even ur oba dares not to flout, oshiomole approval is all that matters. The Bini Kingdom is a conquered Kingdom by the British who has returned such to the Nigerian govt. Nigerian laws superceeds ur local laws. Even in Bini, ur oba knows his boundaries. If ur oba likes let him flout any of our laws claiming he was to follow ancient laws ( eg killing any soul) and see him spend the rest of his life in kirikiri.

Demmdemm:


All kings are useless including ur oba in this dispensation. Why do u think they are fighting for constitutional roles? That u binis chooses to enslave ursef to ur oba is ur cup of tea. Anytime am in Benin, I obey just the law of FRN and not one ancient benin laws. I don't even care if such exist because to me it's inconsequential. In this dispensation, govt is the all in all. The earlier u realised this the better.

bokohalal:

The mistake that you are making is that the LAW that you talk about is in agreement with the traditional law of the people.

VulgarVulvas:
The throne of the Oba of Bini is not subject to the approval or discretion of even the President talk less of a governor under the Oba's realm.


This is the only surviving dynasty left in Africa and it dates back to a bloodline centuries before Nigeria or Edo state came into existence.

For one unionist scammer to have the audacity to declare the living heir apparent to his claims to his forefathers throne is a abomination upon itself.

Oshiomole must sacrifice Iara to appease the gods and ancestors of the revered Bini Kingdom for his sacrilegious claims of authorising a new Oba for the Kingdom of Bini and her peoples.

popsonbj:


My brother, I never said it was the duty a governor to appoint or select a new Oba or Emir as the case may be, it is the duty of the king makers in line with the custom and tradition of the community concern.All what I wrote was that the GOVERNORS are empowered by relevant laws of their states to ratify/approve the selection/appointment so made by the king makers. Be that as it may, Is should be noted that NO CUSTOM/TRADITIONAL PRACTICES supersede the Constitution of Nigeria. Although the Constitution of Nigeria recognizes our customary laws but such laws must NOT be seen to be repugnant to EQUITY and natural JUSTICE. Hence, it is a known fact that ascension to the throne of Oba of Bini Kingdom through primogeniture (that is from father to son), but this has one time or the other, in the past, compromised. Go and read details of History of Bini in some credible history books. Nevertheless, there is nowhere in the statement or action of Edo State government that the heir to throne of Oba of Bini will be bye- pass or compromise. I wonder why people are making mountain out of a mole-hill about the matter.

shala01:

If this your opinion makes you happy, run with it. Have fun

bokohalal:


You are not Edo. Do not cry more than the bereaved.

Demmdemm:


Nop. U are wrong. Traditionally, no human soul can depose ur oba.
In our laws, ur oba is just like any other First class oba in any state and executive governors of such states has the power to depose them if need be.

Apelex:




popsonbj:


My brother, don't over hype the position of traditional rulers in modern day Nigeria because there is no roles/place
for them, for now, in the constitution.The appointment of any vacant traditional stool in Nigerian community
is at the mercy of the state governor according to section 19 (1) of the Traditional Rulers and Chiefs Law, 1979 (as amended) Law of Edo state of Nigeria. The same law also empowers the governor to remove any erring traditional ruler. In view of this, no traditional ruler can be too powerful in Nigeria that a state governor does not have the power to approve or ratify his appointment.Although the king makers may select the right candidatefor the position ut ultimately the governor MUST approve or ractify the thier chioce.The law empowers the governor to do so.Also, no traditional ruler is too powerful to be dethroned or removed.If Sultan of Sokoto (Alhaji Dasuki) could be removed, then who is Oba of Benin that can not be remove or his appointment is not be subjected to governor's approval? It would be recall that Chief Obafemi Awolowo removed Oba Olagbegi,the Olowo of Owo,from the throne and no heaven fell. Col. Joshua Madaki removed Emir of Muri Emirate , from the throne during the military rule, no heaven fell.Please be informed that all traditional rulers in Nigeria are at the mercy of state governors