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Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by noetic2: 2:05pm On Sep 03, 2009
(CNN) -- A Muslim teenager from Ohio says her father threatened to kill her because she converted to Christianity.
Rifqa Bary claims her father wants her dead after she converted to Christianity.

Rifqa Bary claims her father wants her dead after she converted to Christianity.

Rifqa Bary, 17, ran away from her family in Columbus, Ohio, in July and took refuge in the central Florida home of the Rev. Blake Lorenz with the Global Revolution Church in Orlando.

The teen heard of the pastor and his church through a prayer group on Facebook. The girl's parents reported her missing to Columbus police, who found her two weeks later in Florida through cell phone records.

The teenager, in a sworn affidavit, claims her father, Mohamed Bary, 47, was pressured by the mosque the family attends in Ohio to "deal with the situation." In the court filing, Rifqa Bary stated her father said, "If you have this Jesus in your heart, you are dead to me!" The teenager claims her father added, "I will kill you!"

Mohamed Bary told CNN a lot of false information has been given and "we wouldn't do her harm." He knew his daughter was involved with Christian organizations.

"I have no problem with her practicing any faith," he said, but Bary admitted he would have preferred his daughter to practice the Muslim faith first.

Although Mohamed Bary said he did not expect his daughter to run away, Rifqa Bary was placed in foster care by an Orlando judge in August while the Florida Department of Children and Family investigated the threat allegations against the parents.
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* TIME.com: Florida culture-war circus over Rifqa Bary

In a court filing Monday, John Stemberger, Rifqa Bary's attorney and president of the Christian advocacy organization Florida Family Policy Council, accused the parents' Ohio mosque of having ties to terrorism and radical Islam. The Noor Islamic Cultural Center has denied the allegations.

Stemberger told CNN he agreed with his client that she would be killed by radical Muslims if she is returned to Ohio.

"She is a person who is ripe for apostate killing or mercy killing. I'm not going to let my client slip away in the night by going back," said Stemberger.

Roger Weeden, the mother's attorney in Florida, said the filing had no credible evidence but instead was meant "just to inflame the community and the court." Weeden said he believes the teen's attorney is trying to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation.

The teen's attorney said his client has endured a history of abuse from her family. Stemberger said the young girl was forced to wear the Muslim headscarf called a hijab and was punched in the face by her father for being ashamed while wearing it.

Stemberger is asking the court to keep Rifqa Bary in the custody of the state of Florida until she turns 18 in a year.

Mohamed Bary, who is not a United States citizen, said he can't believe all the false allegations and the bad image caused by the situation.

"We are not bad people," Bary said. "We are not like that, we are normal."

The mother's attorney said the teenager was a normal girl, a cheerleader in Ohio, and what Muslim extremist would allow his daughter be a cheerleader?

At a court hearing scheduled for Thursday in Orlando, the parents will have an opportunity to respond to the allegations against them. Their attorney said the parents will deny all allegations.

After the court hearing, the judge may force all the parties involved into mediation, followed by an adjudication hearing.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/03/muslim.convert/index.html
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by muhsin(m): 2:18pm On Sep 03, 2009
LOL grin

Noetic here and there. No time to comment. Later inshaAllah. . .
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by reindeer: 11:53pm On Sep 03, 2009
death isnt very far for the poor girl im afraid.
too bad these guys just cant accept that the saving power of Jesus is just too great for them to hold down.
the only reason they are even talking about it is the fact that they are in the US, had they been in Kano or Afghanistan,well, the girl would be stone dead already. sad
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by olabowale(m): 12:28am On Sep 04, 2009
Reindeer dont make me laaff! How is a girl in far away Ohio run to Florida, when all along her parents and her were not in any religious disagreement, except that the hand of Shaitan is wiped over her by the Christians in Florida reaching out to grab her from the path that is straight (siratal Mustaquim) without any crockedness? This reminds me what the american called parental supervision. If the parents have been monitoring her flippancy on face book, she would never have fallen for "good in the outside but rotten to the core 3 gods in 1" gimmick that she found herself in the follow the leader thing that she is in, now!

How do you compare 3 gods, alway equal and always complete, especially when one of the gods dies, and the earth didnt move and the other is a ghost, doing nothing except driving the dead god before his death into the wilderness right into the arms of the devil to tempt him, again and again, while the third is sitting around (this is all in your Bible and am not making a single thing up, except am giving you a common sense analysis), doing nothing probably enjoying to One Complete God Allah without partnership?

If the three gods seemed to have tried to undermine one another as you can see above, especially the dead one to defend this former Ohio girl, how is that going to be possible? I feel for the lost soul; this is a good proof that if you dont wanna be hedonic evilness dont go sit around them for too long.

Its the same as the Yoruba saying that the sheep that is in the clique of dogs will consume what dog consumes!
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by noetic2: 6:04pm On Sep 05, 2009
olabs what has 3 gods got to do with the fate of a poor girl in the hands of allah's slaves?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by olabowale(m): 7:31pm On Sep 05, 2009
i know you are not a slave, massa! your massa in the bible called all christians (slaves /servants and masters) slaves of the one in heaven. imaging a girl who has a large red mcintosh apple, all of a sudden says now by virtue of been brain washed by some farmers saying that their own apple is always made up of baby apple, big apple and some third apple, the three apples in one apple is now a more sensible and good enough to be accepted over what is whole and wholesome, except if there is some dillutionment going on?

whats surprising is that she is now crying about the baby apple, which even the farmer says it is bruised in the skin or some flesh is rotten, etc, ignoring the others, and ignoring what its obvious; the singular apple that has no equal in taste, look and shinyness, to name a few of the unparallel qualities that none of the three in the 3 apples in one apple can ever match!

you, noetic should sell me the idea of trinity and read it yourself to see how silly and uncomplete you will come out to me. the girl with a silly silver or whatever cross on her neck, shedding "alligator" tears since she is now in florida; there is no crocs in the okee choobee swamp! she is now a pork eater as in a pig in a blanket food type.


what safety can a rotten apple give except stench and stomachache, food poisoning, making you sick.? is this what what follow the leader copy catting has turned to, targetting muslim children? arget me noetics! i will target you. sell christianity to me and let me ask you question about trinity; lets start from that. then sell washing in blood to me and I will ask you if the blood will not cake up already and or stink up the whole neighborhood! target me noetics, and sell to me why anybody will be oiling the body of a dead man except if he/she knew that thats not a dead body, but a body that was alive! would it not be that the oil will be similar giving medicine after death?


target me, noetic if you will not read me forcing you to explain why a God that is capable of deciding the fate of mankind by just simple forgive them out of His immense Mercy will now need to kill a person who does not want to die to bear the burden when he said that he will say to the big miracle workers in his name in the day off judgement "i do not know you?" you are in for a shock, when you dare to target me. I will run you raggedy! then I will sell you islam, if you have the gut for it, where you do not have to kill anyone or allow some man to determine your destiny! you will depend on God, The One , the irrisable, The Powerful, The Everlasting, The Knower, full of Knowledge and will never die!


Thats the relevance of the statement vis a vis the poor girl, from your fingers!
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by noetic2: 4:34pm On Sep 06, 2009
grin grin grin grin grin grin

I am loving this. . . . ok now u are my target. grin shocked shocked

so ask me questions about christianity. . .I WILL ANSWER THEM ALL. . . . on the condition that u would answer all my questions about islam
I am waiting
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by olabowale(m): 5:23pm On Sep 06, 2009
What is Christianity? I will have over or close to One Hundred Questions about your "religion" you will answer and I will seek explanations. Then after all is said and done, You will ask your questiona nd not those draconic ideas because that will make drop you like a bad act! It will be quick and painless.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by reindeer: 11:03pm On Sep 06, 2009
Alhaji
you have derailed from the subject of the thread.
Why should she be threatened in the !st place?Can you categorically answer this, is it ok for a muslim to kill someone who has left the religion or not?
Pls keep to the subject ok?
Abi the Ramadan 'lunch skipping' is causing you profound hypoglycaemia?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by olabowale(m): 11:24pm On Sep 06, 2009
@reindeer: Dr. please read your brother noetic's statement before you read my and mis-diagonise me. Thank Allah that am not your patient and what my outcome is is known to Allah and you alone. For sure you will intend to do me harm.

In another thread we have presented a Quranic and Sunnah position that there is no requirement to kill a simple and ordinary apostasy. Ask someone to help you or just google; is it islamic to kill apostates, and read the response of Answering Christianity people. I used my macaroni to answer and Allah give the answering Christianityto do plenty of justice on the subject.

Noetic can answer my question in a new thread. I want him to sell me Christianity. Then I will sell him the most expensive product at no money down and nothing else to pay afterwards. All for Fi sabillillah.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by olabowale(m): 11:32pm On Sep 06, 2009
@Reindeer: the response is on "please serious questions for muslim brothers and sisters", black ricks or richblacks.

the below is a website you can get great information to quench your thirst about this subject and others of islam and lies of nonMuslims:

www.answering-christianity.com/apostates.htm - Cached - Similar
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by reindeer: 11:46pm On Sep 07, 2009
oh ok.
i dont do harm my dear Alhaji,

hows is it going with the low blood sugar? cheesy
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by olabowale(m): 10:35am On Sep 08, 2009
@Reindeer: I eat well and I dont use sugar that much. Not to much salt eaither. In and out of ramadan, this is my routine. No Turkey; I dislike it because of its size. No Duck or too much beef either. I am more of a Fowl, Hen and fish dude. So, the low sugar thing does not matter here. Lol, thanks for asking, unlike mean Gene Auckland "Dr. Osisi", you at least hasnt became a subscriber to Old Dr. Ekpo Eyo's "The days of humanitarian Doctors are gone".

So what are you doing to save your sole, putting your trust only with your Creator, One Creator and not 3!?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by fizzybaba(m): 2:47pm On Sep 16, 2009
these guys listen to bespoke news and they hurry down to 'islam for muslims' hoping to 'shock/disgrace' us but alas, we are people in the know.u will always meet ur match.

how lovely would it have been if they had the best of genuine intentions to seek clarification rather than their sorry attempt at mocking a perfect way of life, al-islam, a belief so named in the quran and not named after any man i.e christianity named after jesus christ, a supposed son of God and at other times, God himself.depending on their mood.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by Nezan(m): 2:56pm On Sep 16, 2009
perfect way of life my foot, how about all the killings ín the name of 'allahu akbar'?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by noetic2: 3:02pm On Sep 16, 2009
fizzybaba:

these guys listen to bespoke news and they hurry down to 'islam for muslims' hoping to 'shock/disgrace' us but alas, we are people in the know.u will always meet your match.

how lovely would it have been if they had the best of genuine intentions to seek clarification rather than their sorry attempt at mocking a perfect way of life, al-islam, a belief so named in the quran and not named after any man i.e christianity named after jesus christ, a supposed son of God and at other times, God himself.depending on their mood.

another empty head

clarification for what ? by whom? a girl's life is in danger and u are talking of clarification.
she is only alive cos she absconded. . .else?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by Nezan(m): 11:05am On Sep 17, 2009
they dont want to know, pitiful people.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by fizzybaba(m): 3:51pm On Sep 17, 2009
clarification for what ? by whom? a girl's life is in danger and u are talking of clarification.
she is only alive cos she absconded. . .else?


another filled head with toxic content!

Nezan:

they dont want to know, pitiful people.

and u obviously want to know, interesting character
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by noetic2: 4:50pm On Sep 17, 2009
fizzybaba:

clarification for what ? by whom? a girl's life is in danger and u are talking of clarification.
she is only alive cos she absconded. . .else?


another filled head with toxic content!

and u obviously want to know, interesting character

ok please indulge and enlighten us , , . . .with ur non-toxic filled head
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by Nezan(m): 2:22pm On Sep 18, 2009
oya now . . . . . deluded slave of allah.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by fizzybaba(m): 5:27pm On Sep 18, 2009
shayatin , am kinda busy.
ttyl
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by olabowale(m): 5:40am On Sep 19, 2009
Nezan and Co., are worshipper of the Servant Jesus, Who you sent, God.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by noetic2: 5:45am On Sep 19, 2009
what?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by Nezan(m): 9:01am On Sep 19, 2009
Nezan and Co., are worshipper[b]s[/b] of your Son Jesus, Who[b]m[/b] you sent, God.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by DeepSight(m): 10:00am On Sep 20, 2009
If Jesus could have rejected even the mildest praise in saying: "Don't call me good, only God is Good"

Don't you think he would also be inclined to say "Don't worship me, only God should be worshipped"? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by noetic2: 12:50pm On Sep 20, 2009
Deep Sight:

If Jesus could have rejected even the mildest praise in saying: "Don't call me good, only God is Good"

Don't you think he would also be inclined to say "Don't worship me, only God should be worshipped"? ? ? ? ? ? ?

another inconsistent dogma.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by Nezan(m): 12:58pm On Sep 20, 2009
Why are muslims dodging the thread on the child bride that died giving birth?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by AFEEFA(f): 10:10am On Sep 21, 2009
@Olabowale
Ride on Sir! Tell them, let them know.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by Nezan(m): 11:41am On Sep 21, 2009
And you dont have anything to contribute but urge another person . . . grin . . . ?
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by fizzybaba(m): 5:15pm On Sep 23, 2009
Nezan:

And you dont have anything to contribute but urge another person . . . grin . . . ?

google up the word 'brotherhood'

i will be back to explain what it means.
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by Nezan(m): 5:25pm On Sep 23, 2009
And who needs you to explain what is meant by brotherhood? or you mean . . . occult? undecided
Re: Why Threaten A Poor Girl? by GODSON2009(m): 12:45am On Sep 24, 2009
thank GOD for the girl's salvation,she is lucky she has not been married off,before the holy spirit arrested her
i knew after we conquered africa we r taking the gospel back to the western world,and recovering the lost ground the whites have lost to islam ;Dpraise GOD

@olabowale i forgot to ask you

what is the rationale behind the quran being in predominantly arabic?is it because you gys are ashamed of your book of nollywood storytelling and so trying to shield it from the general public

we know the original biblical language was greek and aramaic but these days the language is all but extinct,with the english version being widely in use

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