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God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by lovedayugo(m): 11:04pm On Jul 11, 2016
One of the mysteries of the Christian life is why God didn’t destroy Satan immediately after Satan sinned. We know that God will one day defeat Satan by throwing him into the Lake of Fire where he will be tortured day and night forever (Revelation 20:10), but sometimes we wonder why God has not destroyed Satan already. Perhaps we will never know God’s exact reasoning, but we do know certain things about His nature.

First, we know God is absolutely sovereign over all creation, and this includes Satan. Certainly, Satan and his demons wreak havoc in the world, but they are only allowed a certain amount of freedom. We also know that God has planned everything from the beginning of time to the end. Nothing can thwart His plans, and things are proceeding exactly on schedule. “The LORD of hosts has sworn: ‘As I have planned, so shall it be, and as I have purposed, so shall it stand’” (Isaiah 14:24).

Second, “we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose” (Romans 8:28). Whatever God has planned for Satan, that plan will be the best one possible. God’s perfect wrath and justice will be satisfied, and His perfect righteousness will be glorified. Those who love Him and who wait for His plan to be fulfilled will be thrilled to be part of that plan and will praise and glorify Him as they see it unfold.

Third, we know that to question God’s plan and its timing is to question God Himself, His judgment, His character and His very nature. It is not wise to question His right to do exactly as He pleases. The psalmist tells us, “As for God, His way is perfect” (Psalm 18:30). Whatever plan comes from the mind of the Almighty is the best plan possible. It is true that we can’t expect to understand that mind perfectly, as He reminds us, “‘For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,’ says the LORD. ‘For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts’” (Isaiah 55:8-9). Nevertheless, our responsibility to God is to obey Him, to trust Him, and to submit to His will, whether we understand it or not. In the case of His timing for Satan’s demise, it has to be the best possible plan because it is God’s plan.

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by tempem: 11:12pm On Jul 11, 2016
Simply put, he's waiting for just the right time.
Yes, Satan controls this world..
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 11:20pm On Jul 11, 2016
if u ask me,na who i go ask.
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by johnydon22(m): 11:22pm On Jul 11, 2016
Because that'd take away the ultimate leverage that gives credence to the ultimate hustle of religion.

Don't you see, religion is the ultimate hustle. Like you rightly pointed out God is supposedly All powerful therefore can take Satan out of existence if he wants to but why is he not doing it?

If God was all loving he'd want to do it and an omnipotent God can do it and save christians the trouble of countless unending battles at the prayer houses.

God is supposedly both loving and omnipotent why then is satan still there?

This is the exact same reason a protagonist in a movie won't defeat the antagonist or vise versa at the beginning or middle of the movie, it has to be the at the end part - that's how fictions go.

If God defeats satan now then the story is ruined, the plot is shattered because if that happens then there is no fear anymore and no reason to be shouting in crusade grounds anymore, the one leverage they have in scamming people is gone.

This is the ultimate fiction that yields the best dividends...

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by sekundosekundo: 11:36pm On Jul 11, 2016
Unquestionable you are the Lord.
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 11:40pm On Jul 11, 2016
The day Satan dies, God will have no followers.

Satan and God are like garri and soup, made for each other.

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Cutehector(m): 11:40pm On Jul 11, 2016
Humans now want to reason like God...


Someone was even saying God gave birth to Jesus. Lwkmd. Because it is written he is the first born of all creation.


And I just seem to wonder and laugh at the height of foolishness


The book of Proverbs says, in your wisdom, is foolishness to me. Man's wisdom is foolishness to God.


And God's foolishness is man's wisdom.


Some foolish people will start thinking if God can ever be foolish.


Well.. dats because they are wise enough to think so.
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by hahn(m): 11:42pm On Jul 11, 2016
You might also want to ask, why didn't god [size=20pt]FORGIVE[/size] Satan since it is supposed to be all-forgiving

Why didn't it [size=20pt]FORGIVE[/size] Adam and Eve considering it was their first sin and they had not yet learnt how to apologize since it is supposed to be all-loving?

Why did it even create Satan in the first place when it knew Satan would rebel and cause man to sin eventually if it is all-knowing?

Regardless, the concept of God and Satan is quite similar to the relationship between Superman and Lex Luthor. Lex never dies so you can be sure of another episode.

Every story needs a hero and a villain.

Without Satan, God will be immediately irrelevant and unnecessary smiley

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 11:43pm On Jul 11, 2016
Cutehector:
Humans now want to reason like God...
We reason way better than him already.

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by KingEbukaNaija: 11:45pm On Jul 11, 2016
johnydon22:
Because that'd take away the ultimate leverage that gives credence to the ultimate hustle of religion.

Don't you see, religion is the ultimate hustle. Like you rightly pointed out God is supposedly All powerful therefore can take Satan out of existence if he wants to but why is he not doing it?

If God was all loving he'd want to do it and an omnipotent God can do it and save christians the trouble of countless unending battles at the prayer houses.

God is supposedly both loving and omnipotent why then is satan still there?

This is the exact same reason a protagonist in a movie won't defeat the antagonist or vise versa at the beginning or middle of the movie, it has to be the at the end part - that's how fictions go.

If God defeats satan now then the story is ruined, the plot is shattered because if that happens then there is no fear anymore and no reason to be shouting in crusade grounds anymore, the one leverage they have in scamming people is gone.

This is the ultimate fiction that yields the best dividends...

According to your profile , you have spent 4 months & 17 days online with close to 12,000 posts . It also bears the most section you are active in - Religion.

According to Mr . John , God and Satan are fictional characters . And he has spent ...

1 day = 24 hours

(30x4 ) + 17 = 24 (137) = 3288 hours

1 hr = 60 minutes

3288 hours = 60 x 3288 = 197 280 minutes

1 minute = 60 seconds

197 280 = 197 280 x 60 = 11 , 836 , 800 seconds

You spent roughly 96 percent on the Religion section

i.e 0.96 x 11 836 800 m = 11.4 million seconds

According to my calculations you have already dedicated close to 3,300 hours , 200 ,000 minutes or 11 million seconds of your life talking about fictional characters - day and night , week after week , months after months . Its endless for you cos it will continue till whenever this forum will shut down .

All these time wasted on something that does not exist ? Tell me , aren't you mathematically grossly obsessed with this non existent God ?

I love spiderman - new spiderman movie coming up , I heard its a continuation of Captain America 111 - and other fictional characters but I don't spend this amount of time talking about them .

Romans 1:28
And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing, God gave them over to a base and condemned mind to do things not proper or decent but loathsome .

Continue while the reasonable Christian ones who you describe with derogatory names are doing something meaningful with their lives and visit the religion section on Sundays after Church .

The hero who saved Nigeria from religion ! wink

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Cutehector(m): 11:45pm On Jul 11, 2016
sonOfLucifer:

We reason way better than him already.
yeah. I know. I have a friend who is desperate to get quick cash. Can u help her?
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by ouigy99(m): 11:46pm On Jul 11, 2016
After the September 11 attacks, America declared war on terrorism. One of the countries America invaded is Afghanistan.
America has the military might, plus nuclear warheads to wipe out a country like Afghanistan within a short period but didn't do so.
The issue of God and Satan has passed the context of good and evil, or who is stronger than the other.
The ultimate goal of the believer is to go to heaven or paradise. To ascend after judgement, each person must prove himself worthy.
Satans job is to temp and test people so as to sieve the chaff away.
For you to gain admission into Nigerian universities, you must pass a test or hurdle called jamb, waec or neco.
For you to gain admission into heaven, you must pass tests and hurdles from the devil and his agents
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 11:49pm On Jul 11, 2016
Cutehector:
yeah. I know. I have a friend who is desperate to get quick cash. Can u help her?
Pay tithes. I hear God is quite the money doubler.

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Cutehector(m): 11:50pm On Jul 11, 2016
sonOfLucifer:

Pay tithes. I hear God is quite the money doubler.
well, she is tired of all dat. She says she can do anythn. Or is your Satan not capable enough?


So now u believe in God?
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 11:51pm On Jul 11, 2016
There is nothing like a Personal God. We are just some simulation of a more advanced species of beings.

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by uwagimboo: 11:52pm On Jul 11, 2016
The devil can't be killed..
The devil is a god too..
Lucifer was the 2nd man to God, he is also powerful nd immortal..

Just that I feel in the Principle of Power, God's Holiness is the only advantage he has above Lucifer..
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 11:57pm On Jul 11, 2016
Cutehector:

well, she is tired of all dat. She says she can do anythn
What she desires is value, not money. Money runs out.

Cutehector:

Or is your Satan not capable enough?
My Satan? I have a brain, why do I need a God? Wetin concern Satan concern person success/failure? Introduce yourself to something called personal responsibility.

Cutehector:

So now u believe in God?
Are you one of the unfortunate Nigerian Christians that learnt English from King James?

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by larabae13(f): 11:58pm On Jul 11, 2016
Hmmn tell me more
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Cutehector(m): 12:00am On Jul 12, 2016
sonOfLucifer:

What she desires is value, not money. Money runs out.


My Satan? I have a brain, why do I need a God? Wetin concern Satan concern person success/failure? Introduce yourself to something called personal responsibility.


Are you one of the unfortunate Nigerian Christians that learnt English from King James?
guy u speaking trash.



U should vote for falconey tho. He is somewhat responsible

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 12:03am On Jul 12, 2016
Cutehector:
guy u speaking trash.
Hey angry angry angry

Cutehector:

U should vote for falconey tho. He is somewhat responsible
grin monalisa185 na our candidate be this?
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Cutehector(m): 12:06am On Jul 12, 2016
sonOfLucifer:

Hey angry angry angry


grin monalisa185 na our candidate be this?
monalisa185 pls reply asap.



Sonoflucifer.. pls just vote for him ok. I knw u can do it. It's not hard for u.
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 1:16am On Jul 12, 2016
Sometime I just sit back and be thinking,

What if Satan was actually the good guy and God was really the bad guy and had to motivate people to write tantrum about Satan because that innocent dude doesn't even have a bible to defend himself.

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by MissMonalisa(f): 7:14am On Jul 12, 2016
sonOfLucifer:

Hey angry angry angry


grin monalis.a185 na our candidate be this?

Lol...no o, see our candidate ooo, any other one na canterfeit grin

Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Ganjafama(m): 8:02am On Jul 12, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


According to your profile , you have spent 4 months & 17 days online with close to 12,000 posts . It also bears the most section you are active in - Religion.

According to Mr . John , God and Satan are fictional characters . And he has spent ...

1 day = 24 hours

(30x4 ) + 17 = 24 (137) = 3288 hours

1 hr = 60 minutes

3288 hours = 60 x 3288 = 197 280 minutes

1 minute = 60 seconds

197 280 = 197 280 x 60 = 11 , 836 , 800 seconds

You spent roughly 96 percent on the Religion section

i.e 0.96 x 11 836 800 m = 11.4 million seconds

According to my calculations you have already dedicated close to 3,300 hours , 200 ,000 minutes or 11 million seconds of your life talking about fictional characters - day and night , week after week , months after months . Its endless for you cos it will continue till whenever this forum will shut down .

All these time wasted on something that does not exist ? Tell me , aren't you mathematically grossly obsessed with this non existent God ?

I love spiderman - new spiderman movie coming up , I heard its a continuation of Captain America 111 - and other fictional characters but I don't spend this amount of time talking about them .

Romans 1:28
And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing, God gave them over to a base and condemned mind to do things not proper or decent but loathsome .

Continue while the reasonable Christian ones who you describe with derogatory names are doing something meaningful with their lives and visit the religion section on Sundays after Church .

The hero who saved Nigeria from religion ! wink
Very typical of Christians. Instead of addressing his post, you used more than 2 paragraphs to attack the poster and the number of hours he has spent on nairaland. BTW, what has the number of hours he has has spent here got to do with the topic on ground?

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by KingEbukaNaija: 9:38am On Jul 12, 2016
Ganjafama:
Very typical of Christians. Instead of addressing his post, you used more than 2 paragraphs to attack the poster and the number of hours he has spent on nairaland. BTW, what has the number of hours he has has spent here got to do with the topic on ground?

He called God and Satan fictional characters , what am I supposed to do ? How many times have we proven that God and Satan are real . John , did not address the topic , where is proof they are fictional characters ?

The number of hours spent here actually proves that this is more than fiction , it is real . If it were fiction , like comic magazines he won't spend this much time talking about it - that's a fact . He needs to convince himself God does not exist . He is fighting against the truth and it keeps tearing him apart .

I am enjoying it though .

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by deluxez12(m): 1:01pm On Jul 12, 2016
ouigy99:
After the September 11 attacks, America declared war on terrorism. One of the countries America invaded is Afghanistan.
America has the military might, plus nuclear warheads to wipe out a country like Afghanistan within a short period but didn't do so.
The issue of God and Satan has passed the context of good and evil, or who is stronger than the other.
The ultimate goal of the believer is to go to heaven or paradise. To ascend after judgement, each person must prove himself worthy.
Satans job is to temp and test people so as to sieve the chaff away.
For you to gain admission into Nigerian universities, you must pass a test or hurdle called jamb, waec or neco.
For you to gain admission into heaven, you must pass tests and hurdles from the devil and his agents
I hope u know u didn't make sense
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by TrajansKong: 1:56pm On Jul 12, 2016
God. Satan.

Ooga. Booga.

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by sonmvayina(m): 3:11pm On Jul 12, 2016
God is Satan on his off days....and satan is God on his work day...they are just one and the same person..issaiah. 45:7

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by hopefulLandlord: 4:33pm On Jul 12, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


He called God and Satan fictional characters , what am I supposed to do ? How many times have we proven that God and Satan are real . John , did not address the topic , where is proof they are fictional characters ?

The number of hours spent here actually proves that this is more than fiction , it is real . If it were fiction , like comic magazines he won't spend this much time talking about it - that's a fact . He needs to convince himself God does not exist . He is fighting against the truth and it keeps tearing him apart .

I am enjoying it though .

Your delusion is very high to say the least

FYI, you've proven NOTHING, just speculation, faith and hope, that's all

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Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by ouigy99(m): 6:50pm On Jul 12, 2016
deluxez12:

I hope u know u didn't make sense

Yes, I know you don't have sense
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by deluxez12(m): 6:57pm On Jul 12, 2016
ouigy99:

Yes, I know you don't have sense
and u call ur self a Christian
Re: God Vs. Satan - If God Is All-powerful, Why Does He Not Just Kill Satan?" by Nobody: 7:37pm On Jul 12, 2016
Kill Satan

Sacre bleu!


What then becomes of the prayer grounds, well worn now with the stomps of people's feet bashing satan's head daily??


What becomes of the shining missionaries and beautiful cars bought with the money extorted collected from the masses daily



What becomes of the excuses used by anyone who runs foul of the law- from rapists to pastors........or both actually angry




What becomes of the waste of paper daily devotionaries, prayer books, audiotapes sold at a very high price given to the people




Oh no, don't kill Satan.



Half the pastors will go bankrupt the next day...............

Hell, 90 percent of them will go bankrupt the next day

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