mazaje:

More delusion and empty platitudes. . . . Christ is the way, truth and life to what exactly hypocrisy and lies?. . If you ask the deluded goons to provide evidence for their deluded fantasies and myth they will start crying and complaining. . .

why does ur naive self find it difficult to gasp the evidences behind the gospel?. . . .why do u live in self destructive denial?

noetic2:

any instances or evidences?

lol you actually expect him to present well researched evidence for his lies?  

davidylan:

That is what you tell yourself so you can feel good in your own percieved "intelligence". No one is a blank page, you either believe evolution or creationism or that you dropped from the sky . . . there is no middle ground.

Must you keep lying to yourself? Your ridiculous lies will never be the truth no matter how you keep lying to yourself  and banging your head on the ground so that you can sleep confortable at night while desperately holding unto the myths and delusions of others before you that you have no evidence for at all. . there are Millions that do not believe in creationism or evolution. . they are very happy to state that they do not know. . .

When you reject creationism it implies that YOU DO have alternative fantasies even though for the sake of your own hypocrisy it is important to continuously lie to your self that you really have no myths

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Why do I need alternatives to lies. . . If you lie to me that the earth was created before the sun and that the moon was created to rule over the night. . I do not have to provide any alternative for that kind of lie. . Christian know that the creation accounts are lies that is why they now refer to it as an allegory. . .they do not want to throw the account completely away for the lie that it is so they tweak it a lilm bit and say that ohh the creation accounts are not supposed to be taken as literal but an allegory forgetting that the people that wrote it wanted it to have literal meaning. . .

The claim that God doesnt exist is itself a MYTH . . . because you have no way of proving it.

Of course gods exist but only on the pages of religious text and in the imaginations of people that  have been indoctrinated and conditioned to buy into the myth. . .

But carry on lying if it helps you sleep at night.

Besides what has any of the above got to do with the post?  

I do not have to lie to my self. . .you guys on the other hand have to keep on lying to yourselves so that you can sleep at night that your god exist outside your various books of mytholgies. . deluded people. . .

davidylan:

lol you actually expect him to present well researched evidence for his lies?  

I expect him to run around in circles as usual.

noetic2:

why does your naive self find it difficult to gasp the evidences behind the gospel?. . . .why do u live in self destructive denial?

He HAS TO . . . without it he'd have no excuse to turn his back against the gospel. The only excuse to deny Christ is to claim that He never even existed or if He did the bible cannot contain His real words. The devil is indeed extremely cunning.

mazaje:

Must you keep lying to yourself? Your ridiculous lies will never be the truth no matter how you keep lying to yourself  and banging your head on the ground so that you can sleep confortable at night while desperately holding unto the myths and delusions of others before you that you have no evidence for at all. . there are Millions that do not believe in creationism or evolution. . they are very happy to state that they do not know. . .
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Why do I need alternatives to lies. . . If you lie to me that the earth was created before the sun and that the moon was created to rule over the night. . I do not have to provide any alternative for that kind of lie. . Christian know that the creation accounts are lies that is why they now refer to it as an allegory. . .they do not want to throw the account completely away for the lie that it is so they tweak it a lilm bit and say that ohh the creation accounts are not supposed to be taken as literal but an allegory forgetting that the people that wrote it wanted it to have literal meaning. . .

Of course gods exist but only on the pages of religious text and in the imaginations of people that  have been indoctrinated and conditioned to buy into the myth. . .

I do not have to lie to my self. . .you guys on the other hand have to keep on lying to yourselves so that you can sleep at night that your god exist outside your various books of mytholgies. . deluded people. . .

You seem to have nothing else to say beyond rehashing this time, time and time again. Do you have anything else to contribute besides the above really? I mean i've lost count of the number of threads where you REPEAT THE EXACT SAME argument only burnishing it with a few extra words here and there.

If you think God's only exist on paper PROVE IT! Why is that so hard?

And why do you folks continuously lie that there is no alternative to merely claiming that the bible is a pack of lies?

noetic2:

why does your naive self find it difficult to gasp the evidences behind the gospel?. . . .why do u live in self destructive denial?

. . . You see why I say you guys are deluded. . . The gospels are nothing but mythical claims that have NO evidence at all like the haddit of the moslems. . .What kind of evidence is this. . gospel accounts that can not even agree on where and when exactly jesus appeared to his disciples amongst many other disagreements?. . Is that what you call evidence some books that are full of contradictions and historical errors?. . .You guys are more deluded than I thought. . .

mazaje:

Why do I need alternatives to lies. . . If you lie to me that the earth was created before the sun and that the moon was created to rule over the night. . I do not have to provide any alternative for that kind of lie. . Christian know that the creation accounts are lies that is why they now refer to it as an allegory. . .they do not want to throw the account completely away for the lie that it is so they tweak it a lilm bit and say that ohh the creation accounts are not supposed to be taken as literal but an allegory forgetting that the people that wrote it wanted it to have literal meaning. . .

I dont understand the complete mental disconnect and illogic that drives comments like the above. How is it possible to claim that a $5 is fake when YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ORIGINAL NOTE? To contend that something is fake or a lie it MUST MEAN that you have compared it to an original and found it wanting no?

How do you know that it is a lie to claim the earth was created before the sun when you absolutely have no idea how the earth or the sun even came about in the first place?

Really are you people still able to reason at all?

davidylan:

He HAS TO . . . without it he'd have no excuse to turn his back against the gospel. The only excuse to deny Christ is to claim that He never even existed or if He did the bible cannot contain His real words. The devil is indeed extremely cunning.

Any evidence to show that this mythical devil exist outside the pages of the bible. .

mazaje:

. . . You see why I say you guys are deluded. . . The gospels are nothing but mythical claims that have NO evidence at all like the haddit of the moslems. . .What kind of evidence is this. . gospel accounts that can not even agree on where and when exactly jesus appeared to his disciples amongst many other disagreements?. . Is that what you call evidence some books that are full of contradictions and historical errors?. . .You guys are more deluded than I thought. . .

This must be the most stupid comment i've ever seen on this thread so far. Is this person aware that the discovery of Herod's tomb by archeologists came about from extensive searching of the bible?

mazaje:

Any evidence to show that this mythical devil exist outside the pages of the bible. .

Do YOU have any evidence AT ALL not to talk of evidence that the devil does not exist?

davidylan:

I dont understand the complete mental disconnect and illogic that drives comments like the above. How is it possible to claim that a $5 is fake when YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ORIGINAL NOTE? To contend that something is fake or a lie it MUST MEAN that you have compared it to an original and found it wanting no?

This mental gymastic is really pathetic. . you analogy fails completely because you are comparing apple and oranges. . . . I can see the dollar note and I can tell a fake one from a real one. . .If I you present a dollar bill to me and tell me that it is completely made up of raw steel I will know that you are lying. . . because I can feel the dollar note and see that it not made of raw steel. . . I can see our solar system and I know that the earth can not be created before the sun because the sun is what holds the earth and other planets in orbit. . its that simple. . . no wonder so many of your christian brothers and sisters are saying that the creation myth is an allegory. . . If they Know that it makes any sense they will NOT say that it is an allegory they will stand by it. . . . others are even saying that they believe in evolution and are trying to reconcile it with the biblical creation myth. . but because they know that it makes no sense at all they are now saying that it is an allegory so that they can still hold onto their mythical beliefs. . .

How do you know that it is a lie to claim the earth was created before the sun when you absolutely have no idea how the earth or the sun even came about in the first place?

I can see that the sun is what keeps the earth and other planets in orbit. . .Since you claim to have an idea of what  was going on at the point of creation of the universe and the solar syatem. . I will like you to tell me what was holding the earth and other planets in orbit before the sun was created since your bible says that the earth was created before the sun?. . .Where you the one that was holding the earth in orbit?

Really are you people still able to reason at all?

You have shown that you have no ability to reason at all with the kind of ridiculous analogy you keep throwing around . . .

davidylan:

Do YOU have any evidence AT ALL not to talk of evidence that the devil does not exist?

I have never claimed that there is any such thing as the mythical devil. . you are the one making the claim so all I am asking you is to provide evidence to show that the devil exist outside your book of myths. . . If the devil truly exist all you will do is show me or provide evidence and shut me up forever but because the devil exist only on the pages of your book of myths and in your deluded imaginations you have to tell me to provide evidence that he does not exist. . I never said that the mythical devil exist. . you did so its up to you to provide evidence outside your deluded imaginations and book of myths to show that he exist. . . That should not be too hard for you to do. . .

davidylan:

Do YOU have any evidence AT ALL not to talk of evidence that the devil does not exist?

another baseless assertion. what is the difference between u and the devil?

noetic2:

another baseless assertion. what is the difference between u and the devil?

I am human. . . Pls how exactly does your mythical devil look like. . .Pls can you describe how he looks like to me. . .

mazaje:

I have never claimed that there is any such thing as the mythical devil. . you are the one making the claim so all I am asking you is to provide evidence to show that the devil exist outside your book of myths. . . If the devil truly exist all you will do is show me or provide evidence and shut me up forever but because the devil exist only on the pages of your book of myths and in your deluded imaginations you have to tell me to provide evidence that he does not exist. . I never said that the mythical devil exist. . you did so its up to you to provide evidence outside your deluded imaginations and book of myths to show that he exist. . . That should not be too hard for you to do. . .

ur mental gymnastics and circle marathon is fast becoming boring. . . . . .The bible has submitted its claims and position/evidences on the devil?
do u find them unacceptable? why?. . . . We would gladly oblige u in tearing apart ur FALSE assertions.

it is u who is making a spurious claim and cannot produce evidences.
a. how did the universe come into existence? by whom? when? what was the process involved?
b. where is ur evidence to suggest that God does not exist?

mazaje:

I am human. . . Pls how exactly does your mythical devil look like. . .Pls can you describe how he looks like to me. . .

when was the last time u read the bible?

davidylan:

This must be the most stupid comment i've ever seen on this thread so far. Is this person aware that the discovery of Herod's tomb by archeologists came about from extensive searching of the bible?

Are you completely stupid or what? Your comment is the most stupid LIE I have ever heard. . Herod's tomb was discovered by archeologists . . . based on the writing and clues from the writings of the historian josephus not your unknow gospel writers that wrote only myth and fiction. . . the lies you deluded goons tell yourselves so that you can sleep at night. . .You have to explain the LIE you wrote above. . .Where is your evidence to show that Herod's tomb was discovered by the extensive searching of the bible ROFLMAO. . .The bible does not even say anything about herods tomb so how can it be used to locate his tomb. . . you guys are really pathetic. . . . .The bible only lied that Herod ordered the killings of babies during the time that Jesus was born and that has been shown to be non historical because the LIE only appears in the gospel of matthew. . . So many people wrote elaborately about Herod and they did not mention that massacre at all. . .

noetic2:

your mental gymnastics and circle marathon is fast becoming boring. . . . . .The bible has submitted its claims and position/evidences on the devil?

You said it yourself. . . Claims are just claims. . . The koran also submitted its claims and evidence about its own devil. . . .But the FACT remains that all the claims and evidences exist inside the pages of the bible and the koran. . If you have evididence to show that the devil exist outside the pages of the bible pls show me. . .

do u find them unacceptable? why?. . . . We would gladly oblige u in tearing apart your FALSE assertions.

I do not even find the baseless myth acceptable or unacceptable. . if you have any evidence to show that the mythical satan exist outside the pages of the bible pls let me know. . .

it is u who is making a spurious claim and cannot produce evidences.
a. how did the universe come into existence? by whom? when? what was the process involved?
b. where is your evidence to suggest that God does not exist?

Any tangible evidence to show that your god exist outside the pages of the bible?. . .

noetic2:

when was the last time u read the bible?

Why are you afraid of telling me how the mythical devil looks like? You said that I am no different from the devil and I asked you to describe to me how he looks like. . I am human so how does the devil look like?. . .Or is the devil a human too. . If that is the case then you are also no different from the devil too. . . but if he is not human then explain to me how he looks like. . .Pls do not be afraid of describing your myths pls. . . describe how the mythical satan looks like. . that shouldn't be too hard for you to do. . .

Noetic I am still waiting for you to come and describe how the mythical satan looks like pls. . . don't make me wait so long. . .

Davidylan will you come and defend the lies you just spewed?. . . This is what you said on another thread. . .

davidylan:

Is this the same Josephus whose works have largely been used to construct the history of Israel till date? Is this the same Josephus whose detailed account of Herod's tomb was used to discover the very tomb at the very site he mentioned in his work?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=post;topic=304828.64;num_replies=96


So where did you this liar get the ridiculous information that Herod's tomb was found after archeologist extensively searched the new testament? . . . . Search the new testament for what exactly? Endless myths, fiction and non historical events or what? When will you people stop lying to yourselves and for Jesus. . . 

Neotic where are you?

mazaje:

You said it yourself. . . Claims are just claims. . . The koran also submitted its claims and evidence about its own devil. . . .But the FACT remains that all the claims and evidences exist inside the pages of the bible and the koran. . If you have evididence to show that the devil exist outside the pages of the bible pls show me. . .


I do not even find the baseless myth acceptable or unacceptable. . if you have any evidence to show that the mythical satan exist outside the pages of the bible pls let me know. . .

Any tangible evidence to show that your god exist outside the pages of the bible?. . .

1. when are u going to ignorantly keep running round in circles. . . . , u brought satan into this conversation. . , .u made a ridiculous claim about the devil. . . . .so what EXACTLY is the proof, evidence or basis for to back up ur assertion?

2. I am sick of of ur dishonesty. . , . . .I also asserted that the bible presents evidences to back its claim.
IF u have a problem with these evidences. . . let me know. , . dont ask me to show u where it is. . .dont be lazy!!!!

noetic2:

1. when are u going to ignorantly keep running round in circles. . . . , u brought satan into this conversation. . , .u made a ridiculous claim about the devil. . . . .so what EXACTLY is the proof, evidence or basis for to back up your assertion?

2. I am sick of of your dishonesty. . , . . .I also asserted that the bible presents evidences to back its claim.
IF u have a problem with these evidences. . . let me know. , . dont ask me to show u where it is. . .dont be lazy!!!!

If you notice, i rarely bother to respond to his posts anymore . . . the guy is just confused.

noetic2:

1. when are u going to ignorantly keep running round in circles. . . . ,  u brought satan into this conversation. . ,  .u made a ridiculous claim about the devil. . . . .so what EXACTLY is the proof, evidence or basis for to back up your assertion?

Astronomer: There are flying rocks out there in the sky that we can not see with our eyes called comets. . .
Mazaje: What do you mean that there are flying rocks out there in the sky that we can not see. . .
Astonomer: I am telling you the truth, These flying rocks collide with each other and it is believed that they collide with other planetary bodies out there. . .
Mazaje : What do you mean by that. . . This is not true. . it is a myth. . .
Astonomer: Why do you say that it is a myth. . .
Mazaje : Because you have not provide any evidence to show that there are flying stones out there in the sky that can not be seen with our naked eyes. . .
Astronomer: Ok come with me. . .This is my space telescope. . have a look you will see what i am talking about. . .
Mazaje: WOW its true. . I can see the flying rocks. . wow sorry for implying that you are lying. . .thanks. .interesting. . .wow i am impressed. . .

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Mazaje: Neotic what's going on you look sad. . .
Neotic I am really sad because the devil is really pissing me off. . He is a liar and the father of all lies . .
Mazaje: what are you saying, who is this devil. . .
Neotic: don't you now who the devil is? He is a liar and the father of all lies. .he is out there tempting people and causing havoc every where. . .
Mazaje which havoc did he cause? and how exactly does he look like because I will like to know more about him. . .
Neotic: All you need to know is that the devil is a liar and goes he around causing havoc. . separating marriages, leading people astray, tempting them and causing them to do bad things. .
Mazaje: Who really is this devil, you have refused to tell me how he looks like and how exactly he lies to people. . .
Neotic: you just need to believe that the devil is the father of all lies. . . thats all you need to believe. .
Mazaje: why should I believe something just because you said it. . .Where is your evidence for this devil?
Neotic: i said the devil is a liar and the father of all lies just believe it.
Mazaje: I will not believe it unless you provide some evidence to show that this devil of yours is out there lying to people and causing havoc. . if you don't then that devil of yours is a mythical character. .
Neotic: Who told you that the devil is a myth, I said that the devil is a liar and the father of all lies. .
Mazaje: Where is your evidence for this myth. . .
Neotic : Where is your evidence to show that the devil is a myth. . where, where, where is your evidence to show that the devil is a myth. . .
Mazaje: You claimed that there is a being out there called the devil that goes around lying to people, all I ask is for you to do is provide some evidence to back up your claims. . .that's all. .
Neotic : Shut up, Shut up, The devil is out there and he is a liar, Just believe it you fool, in fact you are the son of the devil, you foolish and disturbed soul, idiot, how dare you say that the devil is a myth, fool, troubled soul, the devil is real and you are no different from him. . idiot son of the devil. . idiot
Mazaje: You made a claim that there is this devil out there who is lying to people, I asked you to describe how he looks like and how exactly he lies to people. . How exactly does he cause all the havoc you have ascribed unto him. . who exactly is this mythical devil. . . how does he look like. . Why should I accept your claim when you can not even substantiate your claims
Neotic: Shut up, Shut up, the devil is a liar and you are no different from him, You have not proven to me that the devil is a myth. . so shut up. .fool. .ignorant son of satan. .
Mazaje :  . . .Chie dis one don pass my power ohhh. . .(Runs away laughing). . .

noetic2:

2. I am sick of of your dishonesty. . ,  . . .I also asserted that the bible presents evidences to back its claim.
IF u have a problem with these evidences. . . let me know. ,  . dont ask me to show u where it is. . .dont be lazy!!!!

Which evidence exactly? Do you have any evidence to show that this mythical satan exist outside the pages of the bible? if you do then pls bring it on. . .

davidylan:

If you notice, i rarely bother to respond to his posts anymore . . . the guy is just confused.

Shut up you stupid and deluded liar. . you only stopped responding to me after I showed what a liar you are. . .

mazaje:

Astronomer: There are flying rocks out there in the sky that we can not see with our eyes called comets. . .
Mazaje: What do you mean that there are flying rocks out there in the sky that we can not see. . .
Astonomer: I am telling you the truth, These flying rocks collide with each other and it is believed that they collide with other planetary bodies out there. . .
Mazaje : What do you mean by that. . . This is not true. . it is a myth. . .
Astonomer: Why do you say that it is a myth. . .
Mazaje : Because you have not provide any evidence to show that there are flying stones out there in the sky that can not be seen with our naked eyes. . .
Astronomer: Ok come with me. . .This is my space telescope. . have a look you will see what i am talking about. . .
Mazaje: WOW its true. . I can see the flying rocks. . wow sorry for implying that you are lying. . .thanks. .interesting. . .wow i am impressed. . .

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Mazaje: Neotic what's going on you look sad. . .
Neotic I am really sad because the devil is really pissing me off. . He is a liar and the father of all lies . .
Mazaje: what are you saying, who is this devil. . .
Neotic: don't you now who the devil is? He is a liar and the father of all lies. .he is out there tempting people and causing havoc every where. . .
Mazaje which havoc did he cause? and how exactly does he look like because I will like to know more about him. . .
Neotic: All you need to know is that the devil is a liar and goes he around causing havoc. . separating marriages, leading people astray, tempting them and causing them to do bad things. .
Mazaje: Who really is this devil, you have refused to tell me how he looks like and how exactly he lies to people. . .
Neotic: you just need to believe that the devil is the father of all lies. . . thats all you need to believe. .
Mazaje: why should I believe something just because you said it. . .Where is your evidence for this devil?
Neotic: i said the devil is a liar and the father of all lies just believe it.
Mazaje: I will not believe it unless you provide some evidence to show that this devil of yours is out there lying to people and causing havoc. . if you don't then that devil of yours is a mythical character. .
Neotic: Who told you that the devil is a myth, I said that the devil is a liar and the father of all lies. .
Mazaje: Where is your evidence for this myth. . .
Neotic : Where is your evidence to show that the devil is a myth. . where, where, where is your evidence to show that the devil is a myth. . .
Mazaje: You claimed that there is a being out there called the devil that goes around lying to people, all I ask is for you to do is provide some evidence to back up your claims. . .that's all. .
Neotic : Shut up, Shut up, The devil is out there and he is a liar, Just believe it you fool, in fact you are the son of the devil, you foolish and disturbed soul, idiot, how dare you say that the devil is a myth, fool, troubled soul, the devil is real and you are no different from him. . idiot son of the devil. . idiot
Mazaje: You made a claim that there is this devil out there who is lying to people, I asked you to describe how he looks like and how exactly he lies to people. . How exactly does he cause all the havoc you have ascribed unto him. . who exactly is this mythical devil. . . how does he look like. . Why should I accept your claim when you can not even substantiate your claims
Neotic: Shut up, Shut up, the devil is a liar and you are no different from him, You have not proven to me that the devil is a myth. . so shut up. .fool. .ignorant son of satan. .
Mazaje :  . . .Chie dis one don pass my power ohhh. . .(Runs away laughing). . .

ur intention was to come across as funny. . . and I am sure u did.
But the fact remains that u made the RIDICULOUS claim that the devil does not exist. , . . .am I in the wrong asking u to prove ur claim?

Which evidence exactly? Do you have any evidence to show that this mythical satan exist outside the pages of the bible? if you do then pls bring it on. . .

I hate repeating myself. . . . . .can u just back up what u said.
My antecedents on nairaland show that I ALWAYS back up my assertions with either analysis or evidences. If I was the one who made the first claim on the devil. . . then the onus of evidence would be on me. . .but u made the first claim . . , . .so prove it. . .what are u afraid of?

mazaje:

Shut up you stupid and deluded liar. . you only stopped responding to me after I showed what a liar you are. . .

do u know how often u use these words whenever ur ignorance has been exposed?

noetic2:

do u know how often u use these words whenever your ignorance has been exposed?

its the typical bully response when he has nothing else to say. He's not alone, the atheists out there he is modelling himself after use the same tactic: if you insult others loud enough you will sound like the more intelligent.

Note all their diatribes against God follow the same pattern . . . little logic but PLENTY of subtle insults, deliberate put-downs, belittling the bible and christians . . . nothing new.

mazaje:

Shut up you stupid and deluded liar. . you only stopped responding to me after I showed what a liar you are. . .

What exactly did you show me? I cant see anything other than the usual mishmash of drivel that 99% of the time has no correlation with what is being discussed.

Each time you approach threads here you have one default spot - bawling loudly about how others (usually known as "deluded liars" have not provided you with evidence . . . do you have anything else to say because frankly listening to the same thing over and over and over again becomes tiresome after a while.

noetic2:

your intention was to come across as funny. . . and I am sure u did.
But the fact remains that u made the RIDICULOUS claim that the devil does not exist. ,    . . .am I in the wrong asking u to prove your claim?

I said the devil is a mythical character that exist only on the pages of the bible( and other religious text like the koran). . . . it is now up to you to show that I am wrong by providing evidence that he exists outside the pages of the bible. . .

I hate repeating myself. . . .  . .can u just back up what u said.
My antecedents on nairaland show that I ALWAYS back up my assertions with either analysis or evidences. If I was the one who made the first claim on the devil. . . then the onus of evidence would be on me. . .but u made the first claim . . ,   . .so prove it. . .what are u afraid of?

You have never provided any evidence for any of your claims. . you just keep making more unsubstantiated claims all the time and call them evidence . . .I said the devil is a myth. . hope you know what a myth is? if you disagree that the devil is a myth then you have to show that it is not a myth. . .you can start by describing exactly how the devil looks like. . . That shouldn't be too hard for you to do. . .