Am a proud user of cinema 4d and i think c4d is more advanced and can yield more output compared to 3d max.
post ur comments.
let argue it out.

I agree that Cinema4d is awesome for 3d modeling, but let's not go there in weighing it's capabilities against 3dsmax. I really believe both are capable of doing equal amounts of things, the only difference being in the ability of the Graphics Designer to use it.

tru talk kemji.
@bilie, y dont u put ur graphix where ur mouth -or keyboard in dis case- is, lets see ur cinema4d output

cmezue:

tru talk kemji.
@bilie, y dont u put your graphix where your mouth -or keyboard in dis case- is, lets see your cinema4d output

Guy, don't go there man. Bilie has good hands with Cinema4d. I've seen his works. Check out the Cinema4d forum thread somewhere in the Graphics section.

to call a spade a spade. i have not really seen anything by c4d users on this forum that's really inspiring . i feel thats why the c4d thread was even created in the first place. i have absolutely seen no modeling whatsoever. none of the works in it iv seen involve moving a single vertex or extruding a polygon but all i see is juxtaposing of geometries and premade elements and application of materials onto them.most of the works there woud hav been eyesores if they had been on the 2d/3d thread because they are just not up to the level of the ones done in the other 3d apps including the wack software. its not your friggin app but what u do with it. u can use the c4d and its easy interface or even poser! if u can provide results that rival the best then fine. dont expect us to just take your word for it with your elementary stuff. there are people that have used c4d to achieve great stuff but the ones on this forum, sorry! im just not convinced. yes c4d may actually be better than max (yea ryt! ) but the fact remains that the max users on this forum are way better than the c4d users from what i can tell. so keep using ur better app to make better crap dont go and hone your skills.

As a fresher in 3d, i guess C4d is quite encouraging than 3d max.<i have both in my system>. This what i was able to do with c4d in 20mins in my first attempt.<the building alone>. Although i havent learnt to build real characters. Max is rigid to me, although i love it.

As a fresher in 3d, i guess C4d is quite encouraging than 3d max.<i have both in my system>. This what i was able to do with c4d in 20mins in my first attempt.<the building alone>. Although i havent learnt to build real characters. Max is rigid to me, although i love it.

U guyz all sound like som guruz,my aspirations is to be that too but i dont know where to start,can some1 pls help with som guidelines, pls

trust me cinema 4d is the bomb.
im also a proud user of cinema 4d.
I'm thinking of how to blend 3d-animation and live shots.
while at the same time balancing and improving my animation skill.
here is a shot of an animated film series i have plans of developing

Nice one c3dude, keep it up and keep intouch.

dis was done under an hour
was actually teaching a friend how to go about d setting in advanced render parameters

@Bilie
Under an hour? Man, I'm in dire need of those advanced C4D tutorials. Any chance for a brotha?

really guys, kemji as said it all and i dnt think there shld be anymore argument, it all depends on d package u know how to use best, somebody could pic up max and do a hell of a job and anoda person could pick up cd 4d and mess d same job up, and beside is there anyone best at any package? a question u should ponder on,

here is an old job done with max,

'and the forum went dead', seriously, this is frustrating. Just when the thread was going somewhere. I would really like to see 3dmax getting some credit. U just gonna sit back nd see c4d get all the glory?

cinema 4d's node-based interface makes it work better for me, you can perform a task in just a few steps in c4d that would take the whole afternoon and a degree in c++ to do in MAX . I can even run it on a lapi or a cyber-cafe pc, because it isn't hardware intensive.

Un-like 3ds max that [b]demands [/b]you go & spend ur lifes savings on a quad-core pc b4 it can render a decent scene.

For me I think the real killer is Mograph plugin for cinema4d, nothing beats it!

cmon dudes stop the compare and contrast stuff, its not the tool but who uses it that counts, go to cg society and see that most of the designs are on 3ds max, pluggins makes life easy but if you ask me it depends on who's using it

@Ugo_2u
Are you sayin that every tool/ software is the same & that all that matters is whoever uses it?

Thats not logical because u cant compare a screw driver to a power drill OR a shovel to a caterpillar. You will get the same results either way both one is easier & more versatile than the other. And that is what we are talking here.
Besides if every software was the same like you say & only the user matters, then why not have just only one software? Why should we have so many when it doesnt matter.

max might be a screwdriver and c4d a power drill but truth be told from what we see on this forum. c4d users on this thread have no case compared to what the max users have put forward. obviously a skilled person can use a screw driver even far better than another can with a power drill. i mean look at this thread or any c4d thread on the forum. all i see is people arranging premade stuff and hitting render. i don't even see anybody try to model anything. and many of the guys here seem simply bitter that they tried to tame max and woefully failed and are all too pleased that they have accomplished something on c4d. the fact that you failed doesn't mean its wack as there are still people doing far greater things than some lousy fruits and juxtaposing premade furniture and text. the software is just a tool not a member of your tribe. final output will always depend on the user. so stop all this rooting for nonsense.

my point exactly, case closed and dismissed! go to cgsociety and see that 80% of their work is done with 3ds max, but if you go to blender you still find awesome jobs there.

my point exactly, case closed and dismissed! go to cgsociety and see that 80% of their work is done with 3ds max, but if you go to blender you still find awesome jobs there.

cgsociety isn't the only site for 3d graphics, there are millions out there & many also feature c4d renders

i mean look at this thread or any c4d thread on the forum. all i see is people arranging premade stuff and hitting render.

modeling isn't the only aspect of CG, there's lighting, texturing, rigging, etc why are your comments based on only modeling skills? Besides you shouldn't judge the software based on who's using it.

@ yemo
this is a tired discussion and in my opinion- a pointless one.
Different software r developed 2 suit different artists/different mind sets/different work preferences etc.
Each software has its own peculiar learning curve that appeals differently 2 different artists. Finding a software that suits ur own particular modus operandi doesnt make it better than another one- it just makes it more suitable 4 u,d artist. I think dats ugos point-i stand 2 b corrected.
All high end 3d apps r capable of doing d same things thru different means n d choice ultimately lies with d artist n is totally subjective.
I am talking about d high end 3d apps,mind.

Animation Master is a 200 dollar app, google it n checkout some stuff done with it.
Compare it with say Max or Maya which cost over 20times more- which is beta?
D argument is endless, d phrase is 'which is better for me' or 'this is what i prefer'

personally i hate cinema 4ds dockable window style.
I dislike Max interface but i love d way d work flow is stacked.
I like Mayas lighter interface-it helps me think beta. And its my app of choice.

But these r just personal xpressions of preference n dont affect d apps effectiveness when used by another.
Nuff said.

i believe OKX has said it all. it about how the artist can manipulate the tool. there are so many good 3d software out there. its all abt the artist. Shikena.