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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by AgentOrange: 10:53am On Aug 18, 2016
alfonso36:





Soery bro, Lokoja belongs to the igalas not horuba

Why are these yorubas claiming other people's land?

Why are they trying to grab land? cheesy cheesy

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Omololu007(m): 10:54am On Aug 18, 2016
AgentOrange:


Why are these yorubas claiming other people's land?

Why are they trying to grab land? cheesy cheesy
some part of lokoja belong to yorubas.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by AgentOrange: 10:55am On Aug 18, 2016
Omololu007:
I just laugh at fools like you grin....the problem is just that Nigeria wont divide...yorubas dominate kwara..the government of kwara recognise kwara as a Yoruba state.the present governor is a Yoruba man....

Why are yorubas so afraid of Nigeria dividing?

Why can't you stand on your own?

No wonder you all develope HBP at the mention of Biaf*** because you know what will befall you.

So you don't want your Odua-arewanistan republic again

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by AgentOrange: 10:56am On Aug 18, 2016
Omololu007:
some part of lokoja belong to yorubas.

Stop claiming other people's land.

yorubaland is ekiti, oyo, ogun, osun & ondo.

yorubaland ends in 5 SW states, simple.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by betterABIAstate: 11:03am On Aug 18, 2016
OPCNAIRALAND:
OP,
You should actually regard this a plus! No one denies that Kwara state as a whole is a Yoruba state, no one! Even the Northerners admit to it that Kwara belongs to Yoruba. It is a plus that Yorubas have footprints in North, represented by Kwara and Kogi states. Similarly we have footprints in Delta, represented by Ondo state.

In terms of culture we can be found in Itsekiri and as well in Anioma. So you should be proud of the spread. Do not forget who you are because we in SW do not forget you and at every opportunity we stand up and fight away enemies who may have ideas about changing your land and your ethnicity, they can never succeed. Yorubaland extend to Jebba, Lokoja and Niger Delta.

you better don't allow emir of Ilorin catch you.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Nobody: 11:10am On Aug 18, 2016
bligs:

So Oyedepo from Omu - Aran in kwara is now a northerner abi? What will you call the ppl of Offa, Erin - Ile etc?

Don't waste my time please. If you understand my previous comment u should not have been asking me dis. Am I the one that classified North central people as northerners or Nigeria. I don't care about this Tribe and that tribe. A northerner is a person who is from West, East or Central part of Northern Nigeria and you can never change that. Accept it or continue to argue.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Omololu007(m): 11:11am On Aug 18, 2016
AgentOrange:


Why are yorubas so afraid of Nigeria dividing?

Why can't you stand on your own?

No wonder you all develope HBP at the mention of Biaf*** because you know what will befall you.

So you don't want your Odua-arewanistan republic again
I don't care if Nigeria divide or not..is none of my business as far as am living fine
Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Omololu007(m): 11:12am On Aug 18, 2016
AgentOrange:


Stop claiming other people's land.

yorubaland is ekiti, oyo, ogun, osun & ondo.

yorubaland ends in 5 SW states, simple.
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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by deleib(m): 11:16am On Aug 18, 2016
AgentOrange:


[size=24pt]The North will keep Ilorin and Offa if Nigeria breaks, Junaid warns Yorubas[/size]

In the event of the breakup of Nigeria, which will be very unfortunate, the North is the only component that will remain one and united.

And we will retain Abuja as the capital of that truncated Nigeria much to our displeasure. We also have two other cities which...>>>READ: https://www.facebook.com/1034730479905716/photos/a.1075040309208066.1073741828.1034730479905716/1087625714616192/?type=3&theater
That Can't Be Possible. Offa Can Never Be Taken By The Fulani. Offa Has A Yoruba Traditional Ruler.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by AgentOrange: 11:19am On Aug 18, 2016
deleib:
That Can't Be Possible. Offa Can Never Be Taken By The Fulani. Offa Has A Yoruba Traditional Ruler.

Well, they are saying they need Offa from you.

If Nigeria breaks the whole of Kwara will not even be enough for them.

They want ther fertile lands of SW as a large grazing field for theiir cattle. grin grin grin

One yoruba here seraching4love has asked that all yorubas gather and sponsor an apology to the fulanis for opposing the proposed grazing bill.

he also said that yorubas are ready to hand over their lands as grazing fields for fulani cattle. cheesy cheesy

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Nobody: 11:19am On Aug 18, 2016
Land grabbers angry

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Nobody: 11:21am On Aug 18, 2016
OPCNAIRALAND:


First, OPC did not attack Yorubas. OPC went to Kwara and dealt a heavy hand on Fulani who harrassed Yoruba farmers and they threatened to depose Emir Ilorin. The Emir alerted security and the border crossings into Kwara was blocked off thwarthing OPC advance.

Get your facts right!

Second, all Government gazzettes on the origin, culture, customs and language of Kwara affirm it is Yorubaland with Baruba and Nupe as few minorities. Borgu has two or three LGs and Nupe has one, the rest belong to Yoruba.

Colonial records and even records of military government accept Kwara as a Yorubaland. During military rule and in the awareness that population anf land mass is an advantage for North, changed Kwara from West Central State to North Central State.

Yorubas saw the political advantage this would play in our favor and never reversed it. Smart move! It has continued to play to our advantage ever since. The North had made concessions to Kwara in respect of its membership in the ArewaCouncil,which otherwise could not have been possible if it was not a Northern state. It enjoys quota in the North, with Yorubas filling important positions as a result. Example is Northern Nigeria Development Corporation, the North version of Oodua Investment Corporation.

Stop speaking out of your @$$ if you dont have facts for foundation.

You're daft. What I'm talking is entirely different from what you're saying. Are you trying to defend OPC because of you're Yoruba, your username said it all.

I am not talking of OPC coming to Kwara what I said is during Obasanjo time, the southwest United Nation registered certified terrorist group OPC attack northerners living in their region.(Southwest). weda northerner from Kwara or Northerner from Bauchi etc. You could not read simple thing. Y not say dat is a lie? Rather u brought another story different.

Nobody says it's not Yoruba land as u claim even colonial...bla bla bla. We said it's north. we don't care about your nonsense Tribe. It's not only Yoruba that are in the north central region.

Use your brain not your Penile hole

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Tochex101(m): 11:21am On Aug 18, 2016
AgentOrange:


Ilorin has been annexed by the fulani and they have also threatened yorubas that if Nigeria should break, they will tyake everything.


Let me remind you of the pronouncement of one of your Fulani masters, Alhaji Aliyu Gwarzo:

"...We also captured Ilorin, killed their local King and installed our Fulani Emir. We took that ancient town away from the barbarian Yoruba and their filthy pagan gods. We liberated all these places and all these people by imposing Islam on them by force. It was either the Koran or the sword, and most of them chose the Koran..."

You just went for the jugular......

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Biafman: 11:25am On Aug 18, 2016
OPCNAIRALAND:
OP,
You should actually regard this a plus! No one denies that Kwara state as a whole is a Yoruba state, no one! Even the Northerners admit to it that Kwara belongs to Yoruba. It is a plus that Yorubas have footprints in North, represented by Kwara and Kogi states. Similarly we have footprints in Delta, represented by Ondo state.

In terms of culture we can be found in Itsekiri and as well in Anioma. So you should be proud of the spread. Do not forget who you are because we in SW do not forget you and at every opportunity we stand up and fight away enemies who may have ideas about changing your land and your ethnicity, they can never succeed. Yorubaland extend to Jebba, Lokoja and Niger Delta.

Point of correction. Kwara state is geographically and politically northern Nigeria. The emir is a northerner. Yorubas migrated to kwara and must be made to leave kwra for northerners after the division of Nigeria.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by AgentOrange: 11:31am On Aug 18, 2016
Biafman:

Point of correction. Kwara state is geographically and politically northern Nigeria. The emir is a northerner. Yorubas migrated to kwara and must be made to leave kwra for northerners after the division of Nigeria.

yorubaland is ekiti, oyo, ogun, osun & ondo.

yorubaland ends in 5 SW states, simple.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by wiloy2k8(m): 11:32am On Aug 18, 2016
They have forced hatred in our hearts
Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by deleib(m): 11:35am On Aug 18, 2016
AgentOrange:


Well, they are saying they need Offa from you.

If Nigeria breaks the whole of Kwara will not even be enough for them.

They want ther fertile lands of SW as a large grazing field for theiir cattle. grin grin grin

One yoruba here seraching4love has asked that all yorubas gather and sponsor an apology to the fulanis for opposing the proposed grazing bill.

he also said that yorubas are ready to hand over their lands as grazing fields for fulani cattle. cheesy cheesy
Stop Being Sarcastic
Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by AgentOrange: 11:36am On Aug 18, 2016
deleib:
Stop Being Sarcastic

Sarcastic?

you can search for him on nairaland, i don't have the time to do that.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by boluwatife66(m): 11:37am On Aug 18, 2016
FriendChoice:


You have to remove the word hatred from your dictionary for the sake of humanity, I guess you have been misinformed by media of what exactly the north is. Don't allow differences in region or Tribe to make you a fool.

Kwara belongs to the north and that cannot be changed, nobody will migrate to any part even if Nigeria is to divide. I guess you hate being referred to as northerner bcux of how people who hav never been to the north speak about it, calling useless names like Ab0ki na cow, they are illiterate, they are all almajiris etc.

Going by history Central northern part of Nigeria have once tried to be more associated to the southwestern during Obasanjo regime, but it doesn't go well.

The UN certified former terrorist group "OPC " launched attacks on northerners living in Southwest Nigeria. People of Northcentral Nigeria (Kwara) are also attacked despite their uniformity in tribe. The southwest people says, northerner is a northerner weda 4rm kwara or not. This is one of the major reason the North central feels more comfortably referred to as north.

One of my major example is you. You are a northerner born in southwest being discriminated by southwesterners, then you decide to hate the north. After hating the north, they will still call you a northerner. double wahala 4 u.



My Final message to you and any1 reading.

Human beings are equal before our creator, the best among you is who fears him most. There should be no discrimination on tribes, races, regional and in whatever capacity. We should learn traditional, norms and culture of various societies.

It does not matter your tribe, region or ethnicity. God made it the way he want. Who are u to question God?

Its only through education that we can transform the society and gain an insight into lifestyle of others and thereby help us appreciate diversity and learn to live in peace and harmony with one another.
I bet you this substance you are smoking is very injurious to your health. North central is just a political term, it has nothing to do with the tribe of the people. You can be a Yoruba indigene in north central. I am Yoruba by tribe and I am a Kogi indigene, are you going to tell me where I belong? Don't I know those I share lineage with again? If we are to be apolitical, why all of a sudden the term north central? What happened to the middle belt of old? Why don't we have south central? The answer is simple, the north want numerical advantage over other region in Nigeria. I may be a northerner to you, but that doesn't change the fact that I am Yoruba by tribe. If Nigeria is to break up today, the boundaries will be adjusted so the Okun people of Kogi state will most likely join their brothers in Ekiti, while those in Kwara will also be with the Yorubas. Or don't you know there is Ekiti LGA in Kwara state? What does that posit to you? Get knowledge brother, the Hausa can not force people to align with them. If they want us, they need to change their attitude. As for the OPC, it just shows how shallow you are. My brother is an OPC member and he is Okun by tribe, so what are you saying?

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by boluwatife66(m): 11:44am On Aug 18, 2016
OPCNAIRALAND:


What is the meaning of Lokoja in Igala language?
don't mind him, he is just dumb, Lokoja belong to the oworo people and they fall under the Kogi west, ably represented by senator Dino melaye an Okun Yoruba man. Oworo people are Okun by tribe and one of their great son is Tunde ogbeha. Or is Tunde now an igala name?

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by 989900: 11:45am On Aug 18, 2016
boluwatife66:

I bet you this substance you are smoking is very injurious to your health. North central is just a political term, it has nothing to do with the tribe of the people. You can be a Yoruba indigene in north central. I am Yoruba by tribe and I am a Kogi indigene, are you going to tell me where I belong? Don't I know those I share lineage with again? If we are to be apolitical, why all of a sudden the term north central? What happened to the middle belt of old? Why don't we have south central? The answer is simple, the north want numerical advantage over other region in Nigeria. I may be a northerner to you, but that doesn't change the fact that I am Yoruba by tribe. If Nigeria is to break up today, the boundaries will be adjusted so the Okun people of Kogi state will most likely join their brothers in Ekiti, while those in Kwara will also be with the Yorubas. Or don't you know there is Ekiti LGA in Kwara state? What does that posit to you? Get knowledge brother, the Hausa can not force people to align with them. If they want us, they need to change their attitude. As for the OPC, it just shows how shallow you are. My brother is an OPC member and he is Okun by tribe, so what are you saying?

I like your perspective. We have many tribes like that, that transcend state, geo-political, even country borders. The Akokos for example are in Ondo, Edo, and Delta states.

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Nobody: 11:48am On Aug 18, 2016
boluwatife66:

I bet you this substance you are smoking is very injurious to your health. North central is just a political term, it has nothing to do with the tribe of the people. You can be a Yoruba indigene in north central. I am Yoruba by tribe and I am a Kogi indigene, are you going to tell me where I belong? Don't I know those I share lineage with again? If we are to be apolitical, why all of a sudden the term north central? What happened to the middle belt of old? Why don't we have south central? The answer is simple, the north want numerical advantage over other region in Nigeria. I may be a northerner to you, but that doesn't change the fact that I am Yoruba by tribe. If Nigeria is to break up today, the boundaries will be adjusted so the Okun people of Kogi state will most likely join their brothers in Ekiti, while those in Kwara will also be with the Yorubas. Or don't you know there is Ekiti LGA in Kwara state? What does that posit to you? Get knowledge brother, the Hausa can not force people to align with them. If they want us, they need to change their attitude. As for the OPC, it just shows how shallow you are. My brother is an OPC member and he is Okun by tribe, so what are you saying?

My major problem with u is, u are talking something different which I did not say. Do I argue about which Tribe Kwara is. Did I say Kwarans are Hausa? What I said is, Kwara is north. people from Kwara are northerners. Pls if u don't like it, do something about it, so it can be called southwest. OPC u said, ur brother is dis and that. For all I care going by history they are registered in United Nation dat they terrorize. So what are u saying.
Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by ishaq062(m): 1:36pm On Aug 18, 2016
Ilorin belong to the west.most of the primary dwellers has oringin from Oyo that why most of these compound names , street names such as idi ape, oja oba, sango, molete, agodi, apata etc are both found in the states

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by ridwanayo(m): 1:58pm On Aug 18, 2016
AgentOrange:


Stop claiming other people's land.

yorubaland is ekiti, oyo, ogun, osun & ondo.

yorubaland ends in 5 SW states, simple.
chai Igbos as usual,wait till nigeria divide,lagos has already joined oduduwa states,keep claimin it as ur fathers property,u wud remain 2nd class citizens in lagos no Matter what,don't go nd develop ur palm tree roof republic,keep bitchingggg bout lagos,no wonder ojukwu wanted to attack ore just to take lagos.even kwara wud remain dominated by yoruba,only ilorin has emir,other town there has oba's.yeye folw oloripelebe oshi

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by Chapter5ive: 2:54pm On Aug 18, 2016
betterABIAstate:
you better don't allow emir of Ilorin catch you.

Customized, how far
Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by vanbonattel: 2:56pm On Aug 18, 2016
deleib:
Though I Was Born And Raised In Ibadan And By All Right I'm An Ibadan Man But I'm Very Concerned About Kwara State Cos My Father Is From There.

Who Really Put Kwara In The Northern Nigeria? Considering The Fact That Majority Of Us Are Yorubas Because We Have Numerous Obas In The LGAs And Just An Emir In Ilorin. I Hate it When I'm Being Told I'm From The North.

If Nigeria Were To Be Divided, Where Will Kwara Fall; To The North Or To The West. Or The Yorubas Will Go To The West And The Nupe And Co Will Follow The North?

To My Yoruba Kwarans, Where Do We Belong?

Ask Afonja the great cheesy

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by vanbonattel: 2:58pm On Aug 18, 2016
ishaq062:
Ilorin belong to the west.most of the primary dwellers has oringin from Oyo that why most of these compound names , street names such as idi ape, oja oba, sango, molete, agodi, apata etc are both found in the states

If the emir of ilorin catch you, your middle name will be sorry cheesy

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by google1(m): 4:26pm On Aug 18, 2016
Kwara State Government Executive Council

Know Your Commissioners
S/N Name Ministries
1. Barr. Abdulrasaq Shehu Akorede Commissioner for Water Resources
2. Alhaji Yahaya Aro Commissioner for Works and Transportation
3. Mr. Bolakale Ayo Nuhu Commissioner for Youth and Sports
4. Mr. Demola Baanu Commissioner for Finance
5. Hajia Fumilayo Oniwa Commissioner for Mineral Solid
6. Engr. Idris Abubakar Garba Commissioner for Energy
7. Barr. Kamaldeen Ajibade Adeyemi Commissioner for Justice
8. Alhaji Ajeigbe Babatunde Commissioner for Information and Communication
9. Otunba Taiwo Joseph Commissioner for Environment
10. Hon. Nuideen Olaniyi Alalade Commissioner for Housing and Urban development
11. Bamidele Adegoke Oladimeji Commissioner for Agriculture and Natural Resources
12. Alhaja Iyabo Adewuyi Joolade Commissioner for Social Development and Culture
13. Hon. Ahmed Mohammed Rifun Commissioner for Commerce and Co-operatives
14. Alhaji Wasiu Adeniyi Odewale Commissioner for Planning and Economic Development
15. Dr. Mrs Saka Asiat Ayinke Commissioner for Women Affairs
16. Dr. Amina Susa’ade Ahmed Commissioner for Tertiary Education, Science and Technology
17. Engr. Musa Ayinla Yeketi Commissioner for Education and Human Capital Development
18. Alhaji Haruna Tambari Mohammed Commissioner for Local Government and Chieftaincy Affairs
19. Sulieman Atolagbe Alege Commissioner for Health

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by malton: 8:00pm On Aug 18, 2016
FriendChoice:


You have to remove the word hatred from your dictionary for the sake of humanity, I guess you have been misinformed by media of what exactly the north is. Don't allow differences in region or Tribe to make you a fool.

Kwara belongs to the north and that cannot be changed, nobody will migrate to any part even if Nigeria is to divide. I guess you hate being referred to as northerner bcux of how people who hav never been to the north speak about it, calling useless names like Ab0ki na cow, they are illiterate, they are all almajiris etc.

Going by history Central northern part of Nigeria have once tried to be more associated to the southwestern during Obasanjo regime, but it doesn't go well.

The UN certified former terrorist group "OPC " launched attacks on northerners living in Southwest Nigeria. People of Northcentral Nigeria (Kwara) are also attacked despite their uniformity in tribe. The southwest people says, northerner is a northerner weda 4rm kwara or not. This is one of the major reason the North central feels more comfortably referred to as north.

One of my major example is you. You are a northerner born in southwest being discriminated by southwesterners, then you decide to hate the north. After hating the north, they will still call you a northerner. double wahala 4 u.



My Final message to you and any1 reading.

Human beings are equal before our creator, the best among you is who fears him most. There should be no discrimination on tribes, races, regional and in whatever capacity. We should learn traditional, norms and culture of various societies.

It does not matter your tribe, region or ethnicity. God made it the way he want. Who are u to question God?

Its only through education that we can transform the society and gain an insight into lifestyle of others and thereby help us appreciate diversity and learn to live in peace and harmony with one another.

Wow. That's really deep. It's been a while since I saw such an exhaustive piece on here.

May you never run dry! That could have been me. Although, I don't know a lot about the OPC side as well as other stories, I do like your philosophical perspective.
Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by onnenka: 8:58pm On Aug 18, 2016
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OPCNAIRALAND:


What is the meaning of Lokoja in Igala language?
What ' s the meaning of Lagos in Yoruba language? Yorubas do not even come in when the ownership of Lokoja is being discussed. The argument is between ebiras and igalas. Looks more like Ebira land as it is surrounded by Ebiras from Ajaokuta on one side and Osara on the other. Yorubas don't come in at all.
Fůcking land grabber

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Re: Where Does Kwara Really Belong? by onnenka: 9:03pm On Aug 18, 2016
OPCNAIRALAND:


First, OPC did not attack Yorubas. OPC went to Kwara and dealt a heavy hand on Fulani who harrassed Yoruba farmers and they threatened to depose Emir Ilorin. The Emir alerted security and the border crossings into Kwara was blocked off thwarthing OPC advance.

Get your facts right!

Second, all Government gazzettes on the origin, culture, customs and language of Kwara affirm it is Yorubaland with Baruba and Nupe as few minorities. Borgu has two or three LGs and Nupe has one, the rest belong to Yoruba.

Colonial records and even records of military government accept Kwara as a Yorubaland. During military rule and in the awareness that population anf land mass is an advantage for North, changed Kwara from West Central State to North Central State.

Yorubas saw the political advantage this would play in our favor and never reversed it. Smart move! It has continued to play to our advantage ever since. The North had made concessions to Kwara in respect of its membership in the ArewaCouncil,which otherwise could not have been possible if it was not a Northern state. It enjoys quota in the North, with Yorubas filling important positions as a result. Example is Northern Nigeria Development Corporation, the North version of Oodua Investment Corporation.

Stop speaking out of your @$$ if you dont have facts for foundation.
Nupes have 2 LGAs in Kwara: Edu and Patigi.
Yoruba land grabber. OPC can never depose the Fulani emir of Ilorin.

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