Is there anywhere, it is written in the bible? That commiting suicide is a sin? Cos I'M really tired...

Sometimes I think about this too. What of people with psychological problems that have no control over their emotions? Will they be punished because of a disease that they didn't bring upon themselves?

What of mad people that cut themselves? Will they go to hell because they were mad and committed suicide?

Been thinking deeply about the whole concept of religion lately sef....

Ermmm forexguy7 do you receive through Skrill?

ladyF:
Ermmm forexguy7 do you receive through Skrill?

No... Neteller

forexguy7:
No... Neteller

Aiit dear... Thought you use Skrill

forexguy7:
Is there anywhere, it is written in the bible? That commiting suicide is a sin? Cos I'M really tired...

ladyf

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are notyour own?20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's

If any man destroy the temple of God, God will destroy. ( another bible verse).

Thou shalt not kill.

The solution to despair and hopelessness is not suicide but Faith in God.

Follow me to THE LORD'S CHOSEN CHARISMATIC REVIVAL MOVEMENT CHURCH @Ijesha Bustop,Oshodi Expressway Lagos. You will be revived. When you decide, notify me and we shall meet offline.

ladyF:

Aiit dear... Thought you use Skrill

Can i open one?

mrZENographer

You do not get my point. Now I'm talking of people that are mad, they have a disease. They have no control over their actions.

Will you punish a full grown adult with a kidney problem for soiling himself? No, he can't control it.

Why then will you punish a mad man with eternal damnation for using blade to start cutting his wrist? I don't think you should. The mad man has no control over what he's doing. I hope you get my argument now.

Maybe God will consider "intent" on judgement day. Religion is too confusing for me nowadays.

forexguy7:
Can i open one?

Yaaay! You can dear. Free to open, just like Neteller.

Religion is not confusing. It's all about God, Supreme Spirit, being able to do all things which you can't do unless you're HE. Unless you're God, you can't kill a cockroach or spill your blood indiscriminately. In other words, you can repair your Bladder and spill some blood in the Process, if you've Faith in The same God to do the Repair. You can be jealous if God gives you the Power to be jealous. Cast not away your Confidence for it's Faith and Work in the Service of God. So Suicide is a Capital Sin and Only God and those in His shoes, can do it and have Him to contend with to judge.

ladyF:
Sometimes I think about this too. What of people with psychological problems that have no control over their emotions? Will they be punished because of a disease that they didn't bring upon themselves?

What of mad people that cut themselves? Will they go to hell because they were mad and committed suicide?

Been thinking deeply about the whole concept of religion lately sef....

If they are born that way, they will Go to heaven, But if not, prior to their condition, God will judge their sins and if found guilty, will not be allow in God perfect heaven. God will not allow sin into heaven.

ladyF:

Yaaay! You can dear. Free to open, just like Neteller.

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ladyF:
Sometimes I think about this too. What of people with psychological problems that have no control over their emotions? Will they be punished because of a disease that they didn't bring upon themselves?

What of mad people that cut themselves? Will they go to hell because they were mad and committed suicide?

Been thinking deeply about the whole concept of religion lately sef....

Ask yourself, why do humans have to come to earth first to proove if they are worthy for heaven or hell? Does it make sense that God wants all humans saved and no one to perish yet he can't create humans directly into heaven? The day I thought deeply about this I realized that even if there is a god, it is none of the popular gods.

@op, I don't consider suicide a sin against god, but I consider it unfair to your family and friends. Think about them.
So much sorrow will follow...

malvisguy212:
If they are born that way, they will Go to heaven, But if not, prior to their condition, God will judge their sins and if found guilty, will not be allow in God perfect heaven. God will not allow sin into heaven.

The way you people keep inventing excuses clearly shows religion is man made. God never speaks for himself.
At what point does a child become a candidate for hell if he is not born again? Age 1? 2? 3? When?
So you mean a mad man will go to heaven so far he gave his life to christ before becoming mad, then why did christ allow him to still go insane?
Look at how Ileya ram almost caused WWIII yesterday with christians contradicting each other. All these just shows humans are the authors of religion

HardMirror:

The way you people keep inventing excuses clearly shows religion is man made. God never speaks for himself.
At what point does a child become a candidate for hell if he is not born again? Age 1? 2? 3? When?
So you mean a mad man will go to heaven so far he gave his life to christ before becoming mad, then why did christ allow him to still go insane?
Look at how Ileya ram almost caused WWIII yesterday with christians contradicting each other. All these just shows humans are the authors of religion

let me give you example of the promise land God promise the israelite, Not All the israelites enter the promise land because of their disobedient, but the children who had No knowledge of good and Evil, God say He will allow them free passage to the promise land:

Deuteronomy 1:39
Moreover, your little ones who you said would
become a prey, and your sons, who this day
have NO KNOWLEDGE OF GOOG OR EVIL , SHALL POSSESS IT.

The Bible makes it clear that people are condemned to hell on the basis of their sins and their rejection of Jesus
Christ as the remedy for their sinful condition. However, infants and young children are incapable of fully understanding either their spiritual condition or God's requirements for salvation. Same goes to the mad people who had know knowledge of Good and Evil.

ladyF:
Ermmm forexguy7 do you receive through Skrill?

What is this Skrill that you've been shouting upandan the whole Nairaland?

malvisguy212:
let me give you example of the promise land God promise the israelite, Not All the israelites enter the promise land because of their disobedient, but the children who had No knowledge of good and Evil, God say He will allow them free passage to the promise land:

Deuteronomy 1:39
Moreover, your little ones who you said would
become a prey, and your sons, who this day
have NO KNOWLEDGE OF GOOG OR EVIL , SHALL POSSESS IT.

The Bible makes it clear that people are condemned to hell on the basis of their sins and their rejection of Jesus
Christ as the remedy for their sinful condition. However, infants and young children are incapable of fully understanding either their spiritual condition or God's requirements for salvation. Same goes to the mad people who had know knowledge of Good and Evil.

Will you stop this nonsense? Can you even listen to yourself and hear the rubbish you are saying?

How many years did it take before the message of Jesus got to yorubaland? Asia? South america, north america, austrialia etc how many people died before ever hearing of jesus. Are they all in hell for not accepting christ? If your answer is yes, does that not tell you your god's plan to save humanity is a failure, if you say no they are not in hell because they were ignorant of the message of jesus, then what is the essence of jesus dying?
Use your head and think. These jesus of a thing is so ridiculous

I think it's better you ask Judas Iscariot.

HardMirror:

Ask yourself, why do humans have to come to earth first to proove if they are worthy for heaven or hell? Does it make sense that God wants all humans saved and no one to perish yet he can't create humans directly into heaven? The day I thought deeply about this I realized that even if there is a god, it is none of the popular gods.

@op, I don't consider suicide a sin against god, but I consider it unfair to your family and friends. Think about them.
So much sorrow will follow...

We were created by God for His glory, and His alone. Don't think that we were put on earth so we can prove whether we are fit for heaven or hell. If we live for God's glory, then Heaven shall be our portion.
About suicide, remember that your life was given to you. Only the giver - God- has the right to take it away.

HardMirror:

Will you stop this nonsense? Can you even listen to yourself and hear the rubbish you are saying?

How many years did it take before the message of Jesus got to yorubaland? Asia? South america, north america, austrialia etc how many people died before ever hearing of jesus. Are they all in hell for not accepting christ? If your answer is yes, does that not tell you your god's plan to save humanity is a failure, if you say no they are not in hell because they were ignorant of the message of jesus, then what is the essence of jesus dying?
Use your head and think. These jesus of a thing is so ridiculous

lol, are we talking about people who had not heard the gospel or babies and mentally unstable people ?

The bible clearly say, the Gospel will reach ALL nation after that the End will come. People who died before the gospel reach them, God is a righteous judge, He will judge them base on their work. The book of Revelation chapter 20 clearly indicate so.

malvisguy212:
lol, are we talking about people who had not heard the gospel or babies and mentally unstable people ?

The bible clearly say, the Gospel will reach ALL nation after that the End will come. People who died before the gospel reach them, God is a righteous judge, He will judge them base on their work. The book of Revelation chapter 20 clearly indicate so.

Oh o so you agree that those that did not here the message of jesus would only be judged by their works meaning you agree such people can make heaven without Jesus. So why did jesus come to die? His death is useless that's what you mean.

mrintellectual:


We were created by God for His glory, and His alone. Don't think that we were put on earth so we can prove whether we are fit for heaven or hell. If we live for God's glory, then Heaven shall be our portion.
About suicide, remember that your life was given to you. Only the giver - God- has the right to take it away.

We were created for his glory so majority not believing in jesus is the glory of god that claims he does not want anyone to perish? why not create everyone into heaven if that is his desire?

If you commit suicide you are going to hell straight in a private plane

HardMirror:

Oh o so you agree that those that did not here the message of jesus would only be judged by their works meaning you agree such people can make heaven without Jesus. So why did jesus come to die? His death is useless that's what you mean.

Are you sure you are a former pastor before you convert to atheist ?

malvisguy212:
Are you sure you are a former pastor before you convert to atheist ?

Are u the one that would tell me my life history?
So because I have come to realize the stupiddity of what I used to believe was divine, it now makes my past nonexistent?

HardMirror:

Are u the one that would tell me my life history?
So because I have come to realize the stupiddity of what I used to believe was divine, it now makes my past nonexistent?

am surprise that someone who claim to be a pastor do not understand what the bible teaches about God judging sin. If this is among the reason you depart from the faith, then there is nothing I can say to you.

At OP we are all curious to know what will happen. Please commit suicide and let's see what's gonna happen. Come back to tell us where you landed.

malvisguy212:
am surprise that someone who claim to be a pastor do not understand what the bible teaches about God judging sin. If this is among the reason you depart from the faith, then there is nothing I can say to you.

Smiles. You don't just get it. You are surprised I USED to be a pastor. Is that not past? At present I am an ATHEIST that means I don't believe in God or Jesus as savior or what ever spiritual mumbo jumbo of the bible. It makes no sense that god judges man based on not being born again. So what happens to the millions or billions who never heard of jesus for the 2000 year span since jesus supposedly died for the world?
You said such people will be judged on their works. So if god knows people could be saved by works then why send jesus? If god knows works can't save people, then what did he do to ensure that immediately jesus died everyone in the world will know at once so we can all have a fair chance at salvation?
Lol. You don't just get it. It's ridiculous. I have no regret throwing christianity out of my life.

SHALOM!

forexguy7:
Is there anywhere, it is written in the bible? That commiting suicide is a sin? Cos I'M really tired...

In the Biblical times, when someone made you sad with your life, you either planted yourself a vineyard, or you planted the someone.

. LUKE 17:5-10.

5. And the Apostles said unto the Lord,
"Increase our Faith."
6. And the Lord said,
"If ye had Faith as a grain of mustard seed,
ye might say unto this sycamine tree,

'BE THOU PLUCKED UP BY THE ROOT,
AND BE THOU PLANTED IN THE SEA;
AND IT SHOULD OBEY YOU.'

7. "But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle,
will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field,

'GO AND SIT DOWN TO MEAT?'

8. "And will not rather say unto him,

'MAKE READY WHEREWITH I MAY SUP,
AND GIRD THYSELF, AND SERVE ME,
TILL I HAVE EATEN AND DRUNKEN;
AND AFTERWARD THOU SHALT EAT AND DRINK?'

9. "Doth he thank that servant because he did
the things that were commanded him? I trow not.
10. "So likewise ye, when ye shall have done
all those things which are commanded you, say,

'WE ARE UNPROFITABLE SERVANTS:
WE HAVE DONE THAT
WHICH WAS OUR DUTY TO DO.' "

PEOPLE WERE BASICALLY SERIOUS WITH THEIR LIVES.

Modern so-called MEN can commit suicide, because their favorite Soccer Team didn't win, or because their GPA was too low.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf6YAUNo5ck

GOD CREATED US FOR A PURPOSE, AND SUICIDE CANNOT BE THAT PURPOSE.

. MATTHEW 8:28-32.

28. And when he was come to the other side
into the country of the Gergesenes,
there met him two possessed with Devils,
coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce,
so that no man might pass by that way.
29. And, behold, they cried out, saying,
"What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God?
art thou come hither to torment us before the Time?"
30. And there was a good way off from them
an herd of many swine feeding.
31. So the Devils besought him, saying,
“If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.”
32. And he said unto them,
“Go.”
And when they were come out,
they went into the herd of swine:
and, behold, the whole herd of swine
ran violently down a steep place into the sea,
and perished in the waters.

THERE WAS THIS FOOL, RECENTLY, WAS JUSTIFYING SUICIDE.

First of all, these TROLLS do not give you all the details, and then, after you will have made an unjust judgment, based on the incomplete data, then he will reveal the data they withheld, and make you look like a fool.

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD."

THIS PARTICULAR TROLL ASKED WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS JUSTIFIED FOR THIS TEENAGER TO HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE OR NOT.

My Answer is based on something no one else thinks of.

. MATTHEW 25:14-30.

14. “For the Kingdom of Heaven
is as a man travelling into a far country,
who called his own servants,
and delivered unto them his goods.
15. “And unto one he gave five Talents,
to another two, and to another one;
to every man according to his several ability;
and straightway took his journey.
16. “Then he that had received the five talents
went and traded with the same,
and made them other five talents.
17. “And likewise he that had received two,
he also gained other two.
18. “But he that had received one went
and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
19. “After a long time the lord of those servants cometh,
and reckoneth with them.
20. “And so he that had received five talents
came and brought other five talents, saying,

'LORD, THOU DELIVEREDST UNTO ME FIVE TALENTS:
BEHOLD, I HAVE GAINED BESIDE THEM FIVE TALENTS MORE.'

21. “His lord said unto him,

'WELL DONE, THOU GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT:
THOU HAST BEEN FAITHFUL OVER A FEW THINGS,
I WILL MAKE THEE RULER OVER MANY THINGS:
ENTER THOU INTO THE JOY OF THY LORD.'

22. “He also that had received two talents came and said,

'LORD, THOU DELIVEREDST UNTO ME TWO TALENTS:
BEHOLD, I HAVE GAINED TWO OTHER TALENTS BESIDE THEM.'

23. “His lord said unto him,

'WELL DONE, GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT;
THOU HAST BEEN FAITHFUL OVER A FEW THINGS,
I WILL MAKE THEE RULER OVER MANY THINGS:
ENTER THOU INTO THE JOY OF THY LORD.'

24. "Then he which had received
the one Talent came and said,

'LORD, I KNEW THEE THAT THOU ART AN HARD MAN,
REAPING WHERE THOU HAST NOT SOWN,
AND GATHERING WHERE THOU HAST NOT STRAWED:
25. 'AND I WAS AFRAID,
AND WENT AND HID THY TALENT IN THE EARTH:
LO, THERE THOU HAST THAT IS THINE.'

26. "His lord answered and said unto him,

'THOU WICKED AND SLOTHFUL SERVANT,
THOU KNEWEST THAT I REAP WHERE I SOWED NOT,
AND GATHER WHERE I HAVE NOT STRAWED:
27. 'THOU OUGHTEST THEREFORE TO HAVE PUT MY MONEY
TO THE EXCHANGERS, AND THEN AT MY COMING
I SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED MINE OWN WITH USURY.'
28. 'TAKE THEREFORE THE TALENT FROM HIM,
AND GIVE IT UNTO HIM WHICH HATH TEN TALENTS.
29. 'FOR UNTO EVERY ONE THAT HATH SHALL BE GIVEN,
AND HE SHALL HAVE ABUNDANCE:
BUT FROM HIM THAT HATH NOT SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY
EVEN THAT WHICH HE HATH.
30. 'AND CAST YE THE UNPROFITABLE SERVANT INTO OUTER DARKNESS:
THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.' "

When you die as an Unprofitable Servant, you are LUCKY if you only go to HELL.

USUALLY, such people are CUT IN SUNDER by the Angel of God out to collect their Memory Imprint, and then TORN APART by the DEVILS, who extract their last LIFE ENERGIES.

[See my Blog: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE.]

The fool then said that, well, what we didn't know was that the boy was about to be abused by a repeat pedophile, and so killed himself to escape the abuse.

Therefore, we were all fools for not knowing that there was a justifiable reason for the Suicide.

THERE WAS NOT A JUSTIFIABLE REASON FOR THE SUICIDE.

The boy should have known that Pedophiles exist, and depended upon God to protect him from pedophiles.

. EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God spake all these Words, saying,

2. "I am The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.
3. "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness of any thing
that is in Heaven above,
or that is in the Earth beneath,
or that is in
the Water under the Earth.
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the Fathers
upon the Children unto
the Third and Fourth Generation
of them that hate Me;
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them that love Me,
and keep My Commandments.
7. "Thou shalt not take
The Name of the LORD thy God in vain;
for the LORD will not hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name in vain."

PARENTS WHO LIVE GOD-DENYING LIVES BRING A CURSE UPON THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION OF THEIR FAMILY.

A CHRISTIAN CANNOT wait until they are under attack by something to start learning about how to defend against that something.

Long before there is an Attack, you are expected to have attained HOLINESS, and acquired THE TEN TALENTS.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25:1-46.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.

SUICIDE IS FOR LOSERS.

You cannot blame GOD because your LOVE AFFAIR with SATAN did not work out!

. JOHN 10:10.

10. "The thief cometh not,
but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:
I am come that they might have Life,
and that they might have It more abundantly."

HERE IS A CHRISTIAN PARAPLEGIC WHO SCORNS CHRISTIANS WHO BELIEVE IN DIVINE HEALING.

But it was more valuable to her to pose with the greatest Christian Hypocrite of the 20th Century- who made her famous, so long as she supported his ANTI-PENTECOSTALISM STANCE.

These are the sorts of Christians who end up having to commit Suicide, because God REFUSES to deliver them.

ladyF:

You do not get my point. Now I'm talking of people that are mad, they have a disease. They have no control over their actions.

If they have no control over their actions, what then is controlling their actions?

Maybe God will consider "intent" on judgement day. Religion is too confusing for me nowadays.

Religion is confusing to you since you've joined Nairaland after you failed to constantly digest the Word of God.

Emusan:


If they have no control over their actions, what then is controlling their actions?



Religion is confusing to you since you've joined Nairaland after you failed to constantly digest the Word of God.

This one you have assumed the role of Chief Judge of the earth, I hope your own digesting of the Word of God takes you to heaven!

Happy sunday...