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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by momentum85(m): 1:07pm On Oct 02, 2016
WHOcarex:
But when God created them He said they should go into the world and multiply. How were they supposed to do that without sex??
Yes God said they should go into the world and multiply but God didn't clearly stated it was going to be through sex. It could be when a woman reaches a particular age, baby would just grow in her or any other means. Think abt it bro.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by ElsonMorali: 1:17pm On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.



OK, seems a lot of people are quoting and want to chew me. Lemme enlighten u a bit.

First of all, we see in Gen. 2:25 that Adam and Eve were not ashamed of their unclothedness. They obviously had the perfect bodies that God had intended for them when they were created. Now, notice after the Fall, in Gen. 3:7 & 10, that Adam and Eve were suddenly ashamed of their bodies. Why would you be ashamed of your body if all you had done was eat a piece of fruit? Now, back in Gen. 3:3, Eve tells Satan that neither she nor Adam can 'touch' the 'fruit' of the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' because if they do, they'll die. The word 'touch' here means 'to lay hands upon, to lie with.' See Strong's again. When you 'lie' with someone in this capacity, it's obviously sexual in nature.
The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in these passages do not mean the literal consumption of food. The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in the first 15 verses of Genesis chapter three means '(lit. or fig.) to consume, devour (partake).' Consult Strong's one more time. When you partake in something, that means you are engaging in an activity. And Eve certainly did partake here! She engaged in sex with Satan (the 'serpent') who appeared to her in human form and sexually seduced her. In Gen. 3:13, we read that Eve, called in front of God to account for her misdeed said, 'The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat (partake)' . The word 'beguiled' here means to 'morally seduce.' IT'S NOT A MORAL SEDUCTION TO EAT A LITERAL PIECE OF FRUIT! This further confirms that the grand sin that led to the Fall in the Garden was sexual in nature. In Gen. 3:6 & 12, we see that Eve led Adam into this debauchery by coaxing him into having sex with a member of one of the Pre-Adamic races. Gen. 3:15 then tells us that two literal, biological seedlines are to come forth from Eve. They are the seedline of Satan and the seedline of the woman (through Adam).
Verse 15 also tells us that the two seedlines would be in direct conflict with one another and in the end the Satantic seed will be crushed. And there is to be a major 'enmity (hatred)' between the two seedlines. Also, the 'fruit' spoken of in these passages is not literal fruit like an apple or an orange.
Finally, Eve was to have two literal seedlines come forth from her womb. One being the 'serpents' (Satan in human form) and the other being hers through Adam. And these two seedlines are to be in direct conflict and have a deep-seated hatred of one another until the end times.
In Gen. 4:1 & 2, we read that Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel. NOw Abel was Adam's son. But Cain was not! Cain is found nowhere in any geneaology in the Bible that traces back to Adam. Read Gen. 5:3-5; 1 Chron. 1:1 and Luke 3:38. In Luke 3:38, it states that the unpolluted descendants of Adam are the sons of God (this of course is a verse tracing the geneaology of Jesus on Mary's (His blood's) side). Why is Cain not mentioned here if he was an unpolluted descendant of Adam? In Gen. 4:8-12, we read about the first major enmity between the two seedlines that was promised by God in Gen. 3:15. Here, Cain murders murders Abel. Now, in Gen. 4:25 and 5:3, we read that Adam and Eve had a son named Seth. The name 'Seth' means 'substitute.' Go to Strong's one more time! Seth was the 'substitute' for who? ABEL! Remember, Cain was driven away from Adam and Eve. So why couldn't Seth have been a 'substitute' for Cain if he was Adam and Eve's son as well? After all, he no longer lived with them. The answer is simple. Cain was NOT Adam's son! In 1 John 3:12, we read who Cain's literal, biological father is. It's Satan!
Hope you are satisfied.


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I beg to disagree with your input.

God commanded them not to eat of the fruit from the tree of knowledge if good and evil. Since when did sex become the knowledge of good and evil?

The Bible states that when they ate, their eye opened. Note that I used singular. The Hebrew word for eyes just like the Yoruba word "oju" is always singular. Just to give you a hint.

From your write up, it seems you're implying that Eve had sex with Satan then invited Adam to join in a party of sorts. May I remind you that Satan featuring as the serpent is a fallen angel. A complete spiritual being without the possession of any gross matter. Spirits don't have flesh like we do so it's kinda hard to imagine the devil impregnating Eve. (Yes, yes I know what was written about the sons of God looking down and coming to sleep with the daughters of men in Noah's time. These weren't spirit beings talk less of being angels. Some have even speculated that they we're aliens from outer space. But that's a discussion for another day.

Your suggestion about Cain not being Adam's son is totally false. Go to Genesis 4vs 1. "And Adam knew his wife who conceived and brought forth Cain... "is enough proof against your assertions.

When they ate of the fruit of which they we're forbidden, they we're right to be ashamed and I'll tell you why.

Sin is an act of defiance against God and they we're stripped automatically of the goodness of their nature. That's what sin does. They were stripped naked of the grace of God and they both stood in the cold hard glare of reality hence thy looked for something to cover their supposed unclothedness. But their naked wasn't of the body it was deeper, buried in their souls.

Have you noticed that little kids who haven't yet known the difference between right and wrong run around naked with shame? Remember Jesus's words that unless we become like little children we won't inherit the kingdom of heaven? I'm giving you little clues. Hopefully you'll be able to tie them together and get the answers you seek.

The original sin wasn't sex.

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by APOSTLECHUMA: 1:43pm On Oct 02, 2016
OUT OF WHAT THEY ATE,CAME FORTH SEED,GEN 3-15.SEED REPRESENTS PROSTERITY & SERPENT WHICH WASNT A SNAKE THEN BUT THE CLOSEST ANIMAL B/W MAN AND APE,WHOSE SEED COULD MIX WITH A WOMAN AND CAUSE HER TO CONCEIVE,HAD IT WITH EVE B4 ADAM.BIBLE SPOKE ABOUT THE SEED OF THE SERPENT & WHAT HAPPENED THERE,HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THE PARABLE OF WHEAT AND TARES.CAIN ALSO WAS NOT MENTIONED IN ADAM'S GENEALOGY AND BIBLE NEVER CALLED ADAM THE FATHER OF ALL THE LIVING,THE WAY IT SAID EVE,WAS THE MOTHER OF ALL THE LIVING. GEN 3-20

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by jstriker442(m): 1:52pm On Oct 02, 2016
momentum85:

Satan was walking like a normal animal with legs before the curse came. Read Gen 3:14 bro. Don't just read ur bible, try to think on the word by the help of the holy spirit.
leave all these una spirit quotes ni. Satan is nt an animal.
Satan d devil, i.e lucifer was an angel of God bfr he was thrown out of heaven. He possessed a creature i.e a serpent aka snake to tempt eve. The serpent at dat tym had limbs like other ANIMALS. Pls read yr bible nd stop relying on mediocrite intuition you ar calling spirit. Why was ds se.x part removed frm d bible. Can u ans that ??
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Ibyno(m): 1:55pm On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.



OK, seems a lot of people are quoting and want to chew me. Lemme enlighten u a bit.

First of all, we see in Gen. 2:25 that Adam and Eve were not ashamed of their unclothedness. They obviously had the perfect bodies that God had intended for them when they were created. Now, notice after the Fall, in Gen. 3:7 & 10, that Adam and Eve were suddenly ashamed of their bodies. Why would you be ashamed of your body if all you had done was eat a piece of fruit? Now, back in Gen. 3:3, Eve tells Satan that neither she nor Adam can 'touch' the 'fruit' of the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' because if they do, they'll die. The word 'touch' here means 'to lay hands upon, to lie with. When you 'lie' with someone in this capacity, it's obviously sexual in nature.
The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in these passages do not mean the literal consumption of food. The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in the first 15 verses of Genesis chapter three means '(lit. or fig.) to consume, devour (partake).' Consult Strong's one more time. When you partake in something, that means you are engaging in an activity. And Eve certainly did partake here! She engaged in sex with Satan (the 'serpent') who appeared to her in human form and sexually seduced her. In Gen. 3:13, we read that Eve, called in front of God to account for her misdeed said, 'The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat (partake)' . The word 'beguiled' here means to 'morally seduce'. IT'S NOT A MORAL SEDUCTION TO EAT A LITERAL PIECE OF FRUIT! This further confirms that the grand sin that led to the Fall in the Garden was sexual in nature. In Gen. 3:6 & 12, we see that Eve led Adam into this debauchery by coaxing him into having sex with a member of one of the Pre-Adamic races. Gen. 3:15 then tells us that two literal, biological seedlines are to come forth from Eve. They are the seedline of Satan and the seedline of the woman (through Adam).
Verse 15 also tells us that the two seedlines would be in direct conflict with one another and in the end the Satantic seed will be crushed. And there is to be a major 'enmity (hatred)' between the two seedlines. Also, the 'fruit' spoken of in these passages is not literal fruit like an apple or an orange.
Finally, Eve was to have two literal seedlines come forth from her womb. One being the 'serpents' (Satan in human form) and the other being hers through Adam. And these two seedlines are to be in direct conflict and have a deep-seated hatred of one another until the end times.
In Gen. 4:1 & 2, we read that Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel. Now Abel was Adam's son. But Cain was not! Cain is found nowhere in any geneaology in the Bible that traces back to Adam. Read Gen. 5:3-5; 1 Chron. 1:1 and Luke 3:38. In Luke 3:38, it states that the unpolluted descendants of Adam are the sons of God (this of course is a verse tracing the geneaology of Jesus on Mary's (His blood's) side). Why is Cain not mentioned here if he was an unpolluted descendant of Adam? In Gen. 4:8-12, we read about the first major enmity between the two seedlines that was promised by God in Gen. 3:15. Here, Cain murders murders Abel. Now, in Gen. 4:25 and 5:3, we read that Adam and Eve had a son named Seth. The name 'Seth' means 'substitute'. Seth was the 'substitute' for who? ABEL! Remember, Cain was driven away from Adam and Eve. So why couldn't Seth have been a 'substitute' for Cain if he was Adam and Eve's son as well? After all, he no longer lived with them. The answer is simple. Cain was NOT Adam's son! In 1 John 3:12, we read who Cain's literal, biological father is. It's Satan!
Hope you are satisfied.
It was sex. The serpent meet eve before adam. The serpent dis virgin eve. And the have a killer son cain. Make a good research about this.

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by DavidTheGeek: 2:09pm On Oct 02, 2016
APOSTLECHUMA:
OUT OF WHAT THEY ATE,CAME FORTH SEED,GEN 3-15.SEED REPRESENTS PROSTERITY & SERPENT WHICH WASNT A SNAKE THEN BUT THE CLOSEST ANIMAL B/W MAN AND APE,WHOSE SEED COULD MIX WITH A WOMAN AND CAUSE HER TO CONCEIVE, HAD IT WITH EVE B4 ADAM.BIBLE SPOKE ABOUT THE SEED OF THE SERPENT & WHAT HAPPENED THERE,HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THE PARABLE OF WHEAT AND TARES.CAIN ALSO WAS NOT MENTIONED IN ADAM'S GENEALOGY AND BIBLE NEVER CALLED ADAM THE FATHER OF ALL THE LIVING,THE WAY IT SAID EVE,WAS THE MOTHER OF ALL THE LIVING. GEN 3-20
Go and read Gen 3 vs 15 well.

KJV "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

thy seed = the serpent's descendants (serpents)
her seed = the woman's descendants (humans)

GOD'S WORD® Translation: I will make you and the woman hostile toward each other. I will make your descendants and her descendant hostile toward each other. He will crush your head, and you will bruise his heel."
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by jstriker442(m): 2:11pm On Oct 02, 2016
APOSTLECHUMA:
OUT OF WHAT THEY ATE,CAME FORTH SEED,GEN 3-15.SEED REPRESENTS PROSTERITY & SERPENT WHICH WASNT A SNAKE THEN BUT THE CLOSEST ANIMAL B/W MAN AND APE,WHOSE SEED COULD MIX WITH A WOMAN AND CAUSE HER TO CONCEIVE,HAD IT WITH EVE B4 ADAM.BIBLE SPOKE ABOUT THE SEED OF THE SERPENT & WHAT HAPPENED THERE,HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THE PARABLE OF WHEAT AND TARES.CAIN ALSO WAS NOT MENTIONED IN ADAM'S GENEALOGY AND BIBLE NEVER CALLED ADAM THE FATHER OF ALL THE LIVING,THE WAY IT SAID EVE,WAS THE MOTHER OF ALL THE LIVING. GEN 3-20
God did nt TRANSFORM d serpent oga. The bible said hs limbs were taken( prove me wrong) nd tell me why only this se.x part was removed frm d bible. Lets stop using disturbed human intuition calling it spirit led
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Lemeechi: 2:17pm On Oct 02, 2016
allanphash7:

Adam and eve knew nothing like right or wrong, they had no advanced knowledge of things before eating the fruit..

(Going by the story)
-If they didn't eat the fruit, we would probably be walking around unclad without knowing right from wrong or why lightening flash because we have no knowledge advanced enough for that..

Thats a cool story..

-So eve ate the tree of knowledge and by that one act her eyes were opened to the door of knowledge
(And God was mad? 
why? 
He needs robots and not people with knowledge?) Then why put the tree there.?

- Here God was against Knowledge but the snake whispered the first few words of learning into eve's ears, showed her the path to knowledge, the ability to understand which God didn't want her to know in the first place.

Who really is the Villain here.?

- According to the story Adam and Eve had no knowledge of Good and evil before eating the fruit meaning Eve didn't even know she was committing evil by eating the fruit but she was punished for her naivety.

I wonder how Eve could be out witted by a snake if she really had real homo sapiens brain, showing Eve was just a moroni_c pound of flesh walking around..

- God knew he didn't want the fruit eaten but he just had to put the fruit in front of them..
(I got rat poison biscuit, i know it's not good then i place it in front of my children and tell them not to eat it and get angry when they do?... Who dah fvck was supposed to be blamed..

Me or my children..

- And nobody is remembering there was a tree that could give eternal life.. (Immortality ) Cool story..

-Going by the omniscient principle, God knew before hand they would eat the fruit then was angry they did even though he put the tree there.. 

-It takes a special kind of crazy to believe such tales but well when a whole bunch of people believe it, we call it religion but if it were one person we would say he is crazy.

I think any right mind would agree that we must all Question the idea of a God who creates faulty humans then blames them for his own mistakes and still bears a grudge till now even on innocent children..

Such grudge bearing supreme being is not only childish but stark absurd..

Nobody was born a sin or sinner, somebody fvcking lied, its high time people realized that...

Highly impressed. Africa needs brains like this to lift her from bondage of foreign religious ideologies.

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by DavidTheGeek: 2:20pm On Oct 02, 2016
jstriker442:
God did nt TRANSFORM d serpent oga. The bible said hs limbs were taken( prove me wrong) nd tell me why only this se.x part was removed frm d bible. Lets stop using disturbed human intuition calling it spirit led
The so called sex part is your thesis.... (meaning you formed it)... Thus there's nothing to tell.

And there's no logic in the sex thesis. It doesn't add up.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by LastProphet: 2:30pm On Oct 02, 2016
jstriker442:
hw was adam punished ?? His d!!ck ?? Thanks in anticipation of yr ans

i think they were both punished by placing the cause on their offspring. God did not intend for man to be born by sex and that was supposed to grant man the power over death. But after that incident which now reduced man to a product of sex, God then said that the 'sin' had brought death to mankind which was how mankind started tasting death. This is the main rationale for Jesus Christ coming to offer us eternal life but in another body as it is impossible in the present one. Cain was the offspring of the sexual act with the devil and that is why evil continued in him.

my brother i hope you don't believe all these serious nonsense? grin
jstriker442:
hw was adam punished ?? His d!!ck ?? Thanks in anticipation of yr ans

i think they were both punished by placing the cause on their offspring. God did not intend for man to be born by sex and that was supposed to grant man the power over death. But after that incident which now reduced man to a product of sex, God then said that the 'sin' had brought death to mankind which was how mankind started tasting death. This is the main rationale for Jesus Christ coming to offer us eternal life but in another body as it is impossible in the present one. Cain was the offspring of the sexual act with the devil and that is why evil continued in him.

my brother i hope you don't believe all these serious nonsense?
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by AdeniyiA(m): 2:31pm On Oct 02, 2016
angelo5uk:
I know many of the people here won't agree with the me.
But I think that story shouldn't be interpreted literally like many other stories in these religious religious texts.
Most of those stories are Esoteric Allegories and didn't happen. They have deep hidden meanings, codes, symbols and lessons in such stories.
Thank you,
You made me commented.

God did not plant any evil tree in the garden,we read that all He created were good, what it simply means is that whatever is divinely prohibited becomes an object of evil to us when we disobey.
For instance, women are not evil, but fornication and adultery make them so. Forbidden is evil
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by jstriker442(m): 2:43pm On Oct 02, 2016
DavidTheGeek:

The so called sex part is your thesis.... (meaning you formed it)... Thus there's nothing to tell.

And there's no logic in the sex thesis. It doesn't add up.
did u understand wat i wrote nd who i quoted ??
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by jstriker442(m): 2:46pm On Oct 02, 2016
LastProphet:


i think they were both punished by placing the cause on their offspring. God did not intend for man to be born by sex and that was supposed to grant man the power over death. But after that incident which now reduced man to a product of sex, God then said that the 'sin' had brought death to mankind which was how mankind started tasting death. This is the main rationale for Jesus Christ coming to offer us eternal life but in another body as it is impossible in the present one. Cain was the offspring of the sexual act with the devil and that is why evil continued in him.

my brother i hope you don't believe all these serious nonsense? grin

i think they were both punished by placing the cause on their offspring. God did not intend for man to be born by sex and that was supposed to grant man the power over death. But after that incident which now reduced man to a product of sex, God then said that the 'sin' had brought death to mankind which was how mankind started tasting death. This is the main rationale for Jesus Christ coming to offer us eternal life but in another body as it is impossible in the present one. Cain was the offspring of the sexual act with the devil and that is why evil continued in him.

my brother i hope you don't believe all these serious nonsense?
read genesis 4 vs 1 . Then come back and ans me
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by DavidTheGeek: 2:48pm On Oct 02, 2016
For those saying Cain is the result of the "serpent sleeping with Eve" please read Genesis 4 vs 1 - 2...

Genesis 4:1-2 New International Version (NIV):
1. Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man.”
2. Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Vickiweezy(m): 2:49pm On Oct 02, 2016
ElsonMorali:



I beg to disagree with your input.

God commanded them not to eat of the fruit from the tree of knowledge if good and evil. Since when did sex become the knowledge of good and evil?

The Bible states that when they ate, their eye opened. Note that I used singular. The Hebrew word for eyes just like the Yoruba word "oju" is always singular. Just to give you a hint.

From your write up, it seems you're implying that Eve had sex with Satan then invited Adam to join in a party of sorts. May I remind you that Satan featuring as the serpent is a fallen angel. A complete spiritual being without the possession of any gross matter. Spirits don't have flesh like we do so it's kinda hard to imagine the devil impregnating Eve. (Yes, yes I know what was written about the sons of God looking down and coming to sleep with the daughters of men in Noah's time. These weren't spirit beings talk less of being angels. Some have even speculated that they we're aliens from outer space. But that's a discussion for another day.

Your suggestion about Cain not being Adam's son is totally false. Go to Genesis 4vs 1. "And Adam knew his wife who conceived and brought forth Cain... "is enough proof against your assertions.

When they ate of the fruit of which they we're forbidden, they we're right to be ashamed and I'll tell you why.

Sin is an act of defiance against God and they we're stripped automatically of the goodness of their nature. That's what sin does. They were stripped naked of the grace of God and they both stood in the cold hard glare of reality hence thy looked for something to cover their supposed unclothedness. But their naked wasn't of the body it was deeper, buried in their souls.

Have you noticed that little kids who haven't yet known the difference between right and wrong run around naked with shame? Remember Jesus's words that unless we become like little children we won't inherit the kingdom of heaven? I'm giving you little clues. Hopefully you'll be able to tie them together and get the answers you seek.

The original sin wasn't sex.


I don't have time to start explaining what I have said before but what i can say is some issues are only understandable by the wise.
It takes wisdom to understand hidden facts behind sweet stories.
What an elder sees while sitting, a child can't see while standing on an iroko tree a skyscraper
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by DavidTheGeek: 2:54pm On Oct 02, 2016
jstriker442:
did u understand wat i wrote nd who i quoted ??
Okkk... I get now. Sorry.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by preciousosas1(m): 3:22pm On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.



OK, seems a lot of people are quoting and want to chew me. Lemme enlighten u a bit.

First of all, we see in Gen. 2:25 that Adam and Eve were not ashamed of their unclothedness. They obviously had the perfect bodies that God had intended for them when they were created. Now, notice after the Fall, in Gen. 3:7 & 10, that Adam and Eve were suddenly ashamed of their bodies. Why would you be ashamed of your body if all you had done was eat a piece of fruit? Now, back in Gen. 3:3, Eve tells Satan that neither she nor Adam can 'touch' the 'fruit' of the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' because if they do, they'll die. The word 'touch' here means 'to lay hands upon, to lie with. When you 'lie' with someone in this capacity, it's obviously sexual in nature.
The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in these passages do not mean the literal consumption of food. The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in the first 15 verses of Genesis chapter three means '(lit. or fig.) to consume, devour (partake).' Consult Strong's one more time. When you partake in something, that means you are engaging in an activity. And Eve certainly did partake here! She engaged in sex with Satan (the 'serpent') who appeared to her in human form and sexually seduced her. In Gen. 3:13, we read that Eve, called in front of God to account for her misdeed said, 'The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat (partake)' . The word 'beguiled' here means to 'morally seduce'. IT'S NOT A MORAL SEDUCTION TO EAT A LITERAL PIECE OF FRUIT! This further confirms that the grand sin that led to the Fall in the Garden was sexual in nature. In Gen. 3:6 & 12, we see that Eve led Adam into this debauchery by coaxing him into having sex with a member of one of the Pre-Adamic races. Gen. 3:15 then tells us that two literal, biological seedlines are to come forth from Eve. They are the seedline of Satan and the seedline of the woman (through Adam).
Verse 15 also tells us that the two seedlines would be in direct conflict with one another and in the end the Satantic seed will be crushed. And there is to be a major 'enmity (hatred)' between the two seedlines. Also, the 'fruit' spoken of in these passages is not literal fruit like an apple or an orange.
Finally, Eve was to have two literal seedlines come forth from her womb. One being the 'serpents' (Satan in human form) and the other being hers through Adam. And these two seedlines are to be in direct conflict and have a deep-seated hatred of one another until the end times.
In Gen. 4:1 & 2, we read that Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel. Now Abel was Adam's son. But Cain was not! Cain is found nowhere in any geneaology in the Bible that traces back to Adam. Read Gen. 5:3-5; 1 Chron. 1:1 and Luke 3:38. In Luke 3:38, it states that the unpolluted descendants of Adam are the sons of God (this of course is a verse tracing the geneaology of Jesus on Mary's (His blood's) side). Why is Cain not mentioned here if he was an unpolluted descendant of Adam? In Gen. 4:8-12, we read about the first major enmity between the two seedlines that was promised by God in Gen. 3:15. Here, Cain murders murders Abel. Now, in Gen. 4:25 and 5:3, we read that Adam and Eve had a son named Seth. The name 'Seth' means 'substitute'. Seth was the 'substitute' for who? ABEL! Remember, Cain was driven away from Adam and Eve. So why couldn't Seth have been a 'substitute' for Cain if he was Adam and Eve's son as well? After all, he no longer lived with them. The answer is simple. Cain was NOT Adam's son! In 1 John 3:12, we read who Cain's literal, biological father is. It's Satan!
Hope you are satisfied.


CC:








scriptures says "the letter kills but the spirit makes alive" bros, don't interpret the scriptures with ur own understanding or logic, allow the holy spirit to help you understand it. that is why scriptures says "He (the holy spirit) will guide us into all truth"
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Justmary06(f): 3:47pm On Oct 02, 2016
lordmayor2013:
A student recently asked after reading the temptation and fall of Adam and Eve, “The Bible didn’t say the fruit was an apple. Why do we say Adam and Eve ate an apple?”
.

Most of the replies I read claimed that the apple was symbolic to Sex. Its sounds so logical and possibly true but the bible says "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight." The bible is a spiritual book and will always require spiritual interpretation through God-given wisdom which will probably be seen as foolishness to Man. I have no such grace yet so I am in no position to explain that passage according to his will but this is my theory.

Remember, in Gen1:27 God made man in his own image (both female and male). God is a Spiritual Being. Man created at that time was in spiritual form. After the creation of both heaven and earth and Him blessing all that he created , He realized that they was no man to work the grounds. God then form Adam (Man of dust) from the ground (which became his flesh) and breathe the breath of life (God's essence) into Adam. And also out of that ground was the tree of knowledge of Good and Bad formed. Through out the bible the flesh has always been regarded as sin and Adam was ignorant of the power of his flesh because he was living purely through God's essence. He could communicate with God so easily compared to recent times when one have to suffer/deprive the flesh before attaining spiritual height. Anyways, the fruit was more like a powerful and spiritual Elixer and not Sex. After taken, their eyes became open to the pleasure of the flesh which is actually sin. And that's why we have Good and Bad. Good, which is God essence in You and I... "He lives in you" and Bad which is the physical realm i.e The Ground (that which is govern by Serpent) and also out of it was the flesh made. The bible also made it known that you can't be both, God spits them out from his mouth. So that's my Theory... "He that is in You is greater than he that is in the world".
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by reeblaze(m): 3:50pm On Oct 02, 2016
I agree with you .....This ain't the first time I have heard it......I mean....guys reason it......how can fruit reveal things to people?
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by reeblaze(m): 4:06pm On Oct 02, 2016
God said 'Go and multiply' but did He tell us that it was through sex He wanted us reproduce...NO!.....It could have been another way.......
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by stancydg: 4:58pm On Oct 02, 2016
MadCow1:
My only problem is why was God against Mankind having the knowledge of good and evil?



And why has he stayed pissed off with mankind since that time till now over 5000 years .. undecided

And how cam you say he is all forgiving when he has not sent man back to Eden to start all over?

Why did it take his Son coming to die first before he started considering forgiving us?

Pfft...

Good question sir. First, God put the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE DIFFERENCE BTW GOOD AND EVIL. (Amp), in the garden, in order to give man what is called ' CHOICE' . Otherwise, man would be a mere robot, doing God's instructions without personal conviction. Spiritual law required that of God, and from what we know about God, He never forces folks to do stuff. He puts before you the options and says like Joshua said: CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY.

To your second question, God didn't remain pissed off. Intact, he made an alternative plan to rescue man, even before the deed happened, because He is all knowing. The word says : The lamb was slain BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. That means my use of the word 'alternative' is even inadequate. The right word would be 'PLAN B' or in the words of risk managers, 'WHAT IF PLAN', because you see my bros, GOD CAN NEVER BE CAUGHT UNAWARES BY SATAN. That's the reason Satan was so shocked when JESUS appeared on the scene and defeated him on the cross. So, God saw you and made more than adequate plans for you to be saved and guess what, He made it so so so easy. All you gotta do is SIMPLY ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST INTO YOUR LIFE, by CONFESSING RIGHT NOW, THAT HE IS LORD OF YOUR LIFE. It is as simple as saying that prayer. Note: the confession part is important. Make sure you say it and BELIEVE IT IN YOUR HEART. It makes you INSTANTLY BORN AFRESH, in what is popularly referred to as being BORN AGAIN. This is because Jesus used the exact word when explaining to a curious fellow like you, that the only way man can be saved from the corrupted seed introduced into the woman, through what some folks now call 'sex' is A NEW KIND OF BIRTH, WHICH WILL INTRODUCE A NEW KIND OF NATURE. THE NATURE OF GOD, INSTEAD OF the nature of sin(Satan). That is why Christianity is NOT A RELIGION. Christianity properly defined is PARTAKING OF THE DIVINE(GOD) NATURE. That is why born afresh Christians can NO LONGER SIN. Because, they have a new nature, the nature of God that doesn't sin. There is nothing they can ever do again to piss God off, because God ONLY SEES THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE MAN(JESUS), WHO STOOD ON BEHALF OF ALL BORN AGAIN FELLOWS OVER TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO. He can't see their sins again. He has covered it out of His sight by the blood of Jesus. Can you see how MUCH GOD LOVES YOU NOW? pls call or Whatsapp 07034643328 for more insight. God bless you.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by LoveJesus87(m): 5:01pm On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.



OK, seems a lot of people are quoting and want to chew me. Lemme enlighten u a bit.

First of all, we see in Gen. 2:25 that Adam and Eve were not ashamed of their unclothedness. They obviously had the perfect bodies that God had intended for them when they were created. Now, notice after the Fall, in Gen. 3:7 & 10, that Adam and Eve were suddenly ashamed of their bodies. Why would you be ashamed of your body if all you had done was eat a piece of fruit? Now, back in Gen. 3:3, Eve tells Satan that neither she nor Adam can 'touch' the 'fruit' of the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' because if they do, they'll die. The word 'touch' here means 'to lay hands upon, to lie with. When you 'lie' with someone in this capacity, it's obviously sexual in nature.
The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in these passages do not mean the literal consumption of food. The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in the first 15 verses of Genesis chapter three means '(lit. or fig.) to consume, devour (partake).' Consult Strong's one more time. When you partake in something, that means you are engaging in an activity. And Eve certainly did partake here! She engaged in sex with Satan (the 'serpent') who appeared to her in human form and sexually seduced her. In Gen. 3:13, we read that Eve, called in front of God to account for her misdeed said, 'The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat (partake)' . The word 'beguiled' here means to 'morally seduce'. IT'S NOT A MORAL SEDUCTION TO EAT A LITERAL PIECE OF FRUIT! This further confirms that the grand sin that led to the Fall in the Garden was sexual in nature. In Gen. 3:6 & 12, we see that Eve led Adam into this debauchery by coaxing him into having sex with a member of one of the Pre-Adamic races. Gen. 3:15 then tells us that two literal, biological seedlines are to come forth from Eve. They are the seedline of Satan and the seedline of the woman (through Adam).
Verse 15 also tells us that the two seedlines would be in direct conflict with one another and in the end the Satantic seed will be crushed. And there is to be a major 'enmity (hatred)' between the two seedlines. Also, the 'fruit' spoken of in these passages is not literal fruit like an apple or an orange.
Finally, Eve was to have two literal seedlines come forth from her womb. One being the 'serpents' (Satan in human form) and the other being hers through Adam. And these two seedlines are to be in direct conflict and have a deep-seated hatred of one another until the end times.
In Gen. 4:1 & 2, we read that Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel. Now Abel was Adam's son. But Cain was not! Cain is found nowhere in any geneaology in the Bible that traces back to Adam. Read Gen. 5:3-5; 1 Chron. 1:1 and Luke 3:38. In Luke 3:38, it states that the unpolluted descendants of Adam are the sons of God (this of course is a verse tracing the geneaology of Jesus on Mary's (His blood's) side). Why is Cain not mentioned here if he was an unpolluted descendant of Adam? In Gen. 4:8-12, we read about the first major enmity between the two seedlines that was promised by God in Gen. 3:15. Here, Cain murders murders Abel. Now, in Gen. 4:25 and 5:3, we read that Adam and Eve had a son named Seth. The name 'Seth' means 'substitute'. Seth was the 'substitute' for who? ABEL! Remember, Cain was driven away from Adam and Eve. So why couldn't Seth have been a 'substitute' for Cain if he was Adam and Eve's son as well? After all, he no longer lived with them. The answer is simple. Cain was NOT Adam's son! In 1 John 3:12, we read who Cain's literal, biological father is. It's Satan!
Hope you are satisfied.


CC:








This is the most ridiculous and funniest piece of writing I have ever read. Honestly. Are you for real please? Wow. Even if this was a joke, its completely bizarre. Please on a more serious note, Are you for real??
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Vickiweezy(m): 5:17pm On Oct 02, 2016
LoveJesus87:
This is the most ridiculous and funniest piece of writing I have ever read. Honestly. Are you for real please? Wow. Even if this was a joke, its completely bizarre. Please on a more serious note, Are you for real??


Are you a kid?
Would i waste my precious time typing all these for your amusement??
It takes wisdom to see hidden facts behind sweet stories...
Don't be a hypocrite! Do you know how many stories were excluded/summarized in the Bible.
Do you know how many real life events both B.C & A.D which were narrated with sweet stories
Wake up!!!
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Joebeck(f): 5:27pm On Oct 02, 2016
They were supposed to multiply by spoken word.
WHOcarex:
But when God created them He said they should go into the world and multiply. How were they supposed to do that without sex??
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by beasty: 5:48pm On Oct 02, 2016
yes!absolutely they ate the forbiden fruit.It was because of man satan fell,his anger and hatred for man made him lure man out of paradise at all cost.Read the BOOK OF EDEN...
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by mpeg(m): 6:02pm On Oct 02, 2016
pikapizy:
one of the few people thinking with his head . the bible went further to say least they put forth their hand and eat of the tree of life too and become like God . was that refering to another sex ? Funny how ignorant people claim superwise .. research what you don't know .. Earth was created to be an extension of Heaven . it was supposed to be a colony of Heaven but man broke forth to have his independent . he became fully in charge of his choices . a revolution broke forth

Can someone please explain this: "you may eat all other fruits in the garden but except this one in the middle of the Garden....
What about all other fruits that they has been eating?? Is that one romance without having sex? I am asking those scholars that said that they had sex.....

Secondly what about the other tree which has the fruit of life in it? The Bible said that they were chased away from the garden so that they will not eat the fruit of life and become immortal....

Remember they Bible also said that the very fruit of life is been guided by Angels with sword..

Come think of it.... When you go to The book of revelation, they were now allow to have assess to that very tree of life, after when they most have succeed the things of the world
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by LastProphet: 6:50pm On Oct 02, 2016
jstriker442:
read genesis 4 vs 1 . Then come back and ans me

have read the whole of Genesis first time in 1982, was baptized later at UMCA Ilorin in 1987 by rev olu peters, i was a group leader in youth fellowship when kayode sanni was president, so pls tell me what is in Genesis chap 4
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by nocosomia: 7:05pm On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:

I strongly disagree with that;
Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

I strongly dissagree with this
Is sex gud for food?
The woman firstly ate it herself as stated by scriptures
This is food not sex

This is food here being spoken about
A fruit in the normal sense of food
Something eaten in the form of food as we do all eat food.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by jstriker442(m): 7:28pm On Oct 02, 2016
LastProphet:


have read the whole of Genesis first time in 1982, was baptized later at UMCA Ilorin in 1987 by rev olu peters, i was a group leader in youth fellowship when kayode sanni was president, so pls tell me what is in Genesis chap 4
u r quoting irrv. Things. Read gen 4 vs 1 and tell me who d bible said gave birth to cain.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Nobody: 7:34pm On Oct 02, 2016
So people actually think this Eden story happened for real?
Oh my God. what is wrong with black people.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Nobody: 7:35pm On Oct 02, 2016
So people actually think this Eden story happened for real?
Oh my God. what is wrong with black people.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by jstriker442(m): 7:36pm On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:



Are you a kid?
Would i waste my precious time typing all these for your amusement??
It takes wisdom to see hidden facts behind sweet stories...
Don't be a hypocrite! Do you know how many stories were excluded/summarized in the Bible.
Do you know how many real life events both B.C & A.D which were narrated with sweet stories
Wake up!!!
oga read gen 4 vs 1. Then pls tell me who d BIBLE said is d father of cain (quote yr bible)

stop claiming u r a spirit filled christian

..... Anticipating yr answer

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