davidylan:

Neither are they interested in stopping the carnage in Darfur, neither did they do anything to stop the genocide in Rwanda. They did not stop the civil war in SierraLeone, Burundi, Congo DR, Liberia. Neither are they bothered about the rudderless nation of Somalia nor are they bothered by the constant conflicts in Ethiopia and Eritrea.

I already stated that they do NOTHING; so what exactly is your point?

However, they do NOTHING and they do not contribute to carnage and destruction of other lands. Neither do they sponsor terrorists who turn round to attack them in future.

I hope that clears the air on that.

4 Play:

This is hysterical mumbo jumbo.

If the US is trying to decimate the muslim people,that must explain why they were at the forefront of providing humanitarian relief in the aftermath of the earthquake in Pakistan and the tsunami in Indonesia hence saving thousands of muslims lives,for we all know that the best way to decimate a people, is to help them in the time of need.

It must also explain why the US spends a lot of money in development aid to muslim countries

Since u don't consider that the US has any obligations to help in somalia,that should put to rest any questions as to what the US is doing to help in Somalia

I await with interest ,to see the results of the efforts of the rest of the international community to put an end to the crisis in SOMALIA.We have already seen the lilly livered efforts of the AU monitoring team in Darfur.I wonder why the people of Darfur keep calling for US intervention

Spending a lot of money to do something does not mean that you cannot destroy it again in other subtle ways.

It wont be long till Pakistan is again a part of the war monger's 'axes of evil'. He courts Pakistan now because he needs Pakistan's support for the prosecution of the war in Afghanistan. It's a marriage (agreement) of convenience.

Was Osama Bin Ladin not created by the US? Was the Taleban not created by the US and it's allies? Who's fooling who?

Why do you think the people of Darfur keep calling for US intervention? It's because the US is powerful enough to intervene decisively and stop all the bloodshed there but most people know that George Bush isn't interested in that. There's no real interest in Somalia for the US.

@Afam
I did ask u for a foreign policy decision in response to which u gave me a no of foreign policy objectives common to every developed nation which even Osama Bin Laden will not take issues with

For instance protecting Americans at home and abroad is a foreign policy decision!,when was this decision taken and before then was the policy not to protect them?By the way is there any other nation that has yet to decide to protect their citizens ?

Futhering free trade is also named as a decision.Please when was the decision made and by who? Same goes for providing humaniatarian assistance and development aid.All these are decisions in your reckoning

I was particullarly intrigued by your candid admission that the US seeks to "improve living conditions everywhere" in the 2nd part of your list of US foreign policy "decisions",you then went on to suggest that u criticise them when they committ crimes against peoples,groups and nations

This begs the question why people who u acknowledge seek to improve living conditions everywhere will committ crimes against nations.Does this everywhere include the Middle East,Africa and Latin America? How do u reconcile this policy of improving living conditions everywhere with your constant rants against the US?

one would think that u would be generally positively disposed to a nation whose foreign policy is to improve living conditions everywhere

.PS :Now that ETHIOPIA has gained the upper hand,it is probably time to use their position to integrate the moderate elements within the ICU into a Govt of National Unity instead of going for a total military victory

@4Play,

I guess I know exactly how your brain works by now.

Knowing fully well that producing one will result in your asking for more than one, I proceeded to produce 3.

Now, you have started another round of aimless rhetorics that end up exposing your inability to acknowledge even simple facts or realities.

In order not to coin my own version of some US foreign policies I opted to visit a lot of US government websites including your wikipedia and out of all the foreign policies I saw I narrowed down to 3 that I agree with.

On how a country can claim to improve lives everywhere and turn around to kill people, it shows that you are either incapable of seeing things the way they are or that you are being plain stupid.

I really believe you are using this forum to learn but there is a limit to what you can learn here.

I will not join you in this round of empty and aimless distractions on very clear and simple statements, try my neighbour.

@Afam

I thought u said that u don't rely on wikipedia .So u had to look up which policy u agree with?

Afam:

@4Play,



On how a country can claim to improve lives everywhere and turn around to kill people,

At least u have backtracked on that one

Somalia is an Islamist country. For decades, the country had on functioning govt- & was a lawless/chaotic place despite the interim govt. The Islamists brought some order & peace out of the confusion. Why shd anybody quarrel with dat?
Let Somalia be pls

Somalia is an Islamist country. For decades, the country had no functioning govt- & was a lawless/chaotic place despite the interim govt. The Islamists brought some order & peace out of the confusion. Why shd anybody quarrel with dat?
Let Somalia be pls

Somalia is an Islamist country. For decades, the country had no functioning govt- & was a lawless/chaotic place despite the interim govt. The Islamists brought some order & peace out of the confusion. Why shd anybody quarrel with dat?
Let Somalia be pls

Somalia is an Islamist country. For decades, the country had no functioning govt- & was a lawless/chaotic place despite the interim govt. The Islamists brought some order & peace out of the confusion. Why shd anybody quarrel with dat?
Let Somalia be pls

As much as I do not know too much about Somalia and the politics thereof, it appears that some people are so indoctrinated that they will oppose anything that is not based on their own religious beliefs. The absoluteness of the hatred for moslems will also create hatred within the moslem community for christians.

I see a lot of people who call themselves christians and I feel certain that Jesus Christ would scatter them off by Himself if He were to appear now hence showing the hypocrisy of the positions holding unto hatred while claiming to belong to Christ.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,

4 Play:

@Afam

I thought u said that u don't rely on wikipedia .So u had to look up which policy u agree with?

At least u have backtracked on that one

As usual, deviating from the main issue. Would have been shocked if you did otherwise.

@Easyy,

Even the devil knows the bible and can quote some portions of it so do not worry too much about the actions of some of these religous bigots that are blinded by hatred while masking same.

The Islamists were doing a good job of running the place; now Ethiopia & their backers want 2 send them back 2 the dark days.
Who hv the somalis offended? The folks there are entitled to some peace, no? Kudos 2 the UIC 4 a good job albeit temporary

Afam:

On how a country can claim to improve lives everywhere and turn around to kill people

afam i dey ooo just dey

i am soo pissed with Americans never use to see them that way until they killed Saddam yesterday
it really hurts me why they should

@kaecy5,

Now it is America that killed Sadam. So it was in an American court that he was tried and sentenced? So it was an American President that ratified he death sentence? So it was Americans that put him on the gallows? Are you attempting to change history right before our eyes?

Let me tell ou what America did. America kept him alive when they could have easily killed him at tha fox-hole Saddam hid in. America did not hand him over as soon as the judgement was given to preven Saddam from being ill-treated. America kept close distance after the death sentence was carried out to prevent Saddam's body from been mutilated. Looks like we must be talking about 2 different Americas.

TayoD:

@kaecy5,

Now it is America that killed Sadam. So it was in an American court that he was tried and sentenced? So it was an American President that ratified he death sentence? So it was Americans that put him on the gallows? Are you attempting to change history right before our eyes?

Let me tell ou what America did. America kept him alive when they could have easily killed him at tha fox-hole Saddam hid in. America did not hand him over as soon as the judgement was given to preven Saddam from being ill-treated. America kept close distance after the death sentence was carried out to prevent Saddam's body from been mutilated. Looks like we must be talking about 2 different Americas.

Saddam was in the US custody from the day he was captured until 30 minutes before his death when he was released to the Shiites that were bent on executing him.

The US financed the trials, even a prosecutor boasted that they had over $200M to spend in the case, Saddam was brought to court by the US, housed by the US and I wonder how on earth anyone can separate the US from what happened in Iraq the pas few days as regards Saddam.

Again, the video displayed on the internet goes to show that the execution had more to do with revenge than justice.

The Iraqi president refused to sign the death warrant because he was opposed to it and a decision that has not been explained till today was made that the PM's signature was enough to execute him, a promise the PM made weels earlier that Saddam would not live to see the new year.

Whoever thinks America is in invading a country for humanitarian reasons is waisting their time. They are pursuing Ntional Interests wchich includes syphoning oil and making sure those they bully are not able to retaliate.

I wonder how on earth anyone can separate the US from what happened in Iraq the pas few days as regards Saddam

Even his lifeless body was flown to his hometown in a US jet.

Even his lifeless body was flown to his hometown in a US jet.

And you forgot to add that the cell phone videos was taken by an American made Cell Phone. ^sarcasm

How could that even have happened thought the whole area was water tight in security?

TayoD:

And you forgot to add that the cell phone videos was taken by an American made Cell Phone. ^sarcasm

@TayoD

Was it not a SonyEriccson phone? Should we not blame Japan and Sweden for their involvement?

I only hope his coffin wasn't 'made in the U.S.A.'

All those men shouting "Muqtada" as SADDAM was about to be hung must have been Americans

If not for Americans,the Iraqis would have released Saddam in the spirit of peace and reconciliation.

I heard the rope was bought on Ebay by the Iraqis(another case of American culpability)

Buying the rope on Ebay is one thing

Selling it on Ebay after it was used is a far better profit orientated idea

I want to sell replica Saddam hanging ropes.

Do u know anyone who is interested?

Anyone with a few screws loose?

4 Play:

I want to sell replica Saddam hanging ropes.

Do u know anyone who is interested?

Anyone with a few screws loose?

Marine or oil companies will know better

I'm sure Shell knows about it

McKren:

Marine or oil companies will know better

i heard the rope used to hang Saddam is now in the hands of the cleric,Muqtada Al Sadr.

Apparently ,a wealthy Kuwaiti businessman had put in a massive bid for it and he was informed that it is now with Al Sadr

I will not be suprised to hear that cos Al Sadir was instrumental to the emergence of Nouri Al Maliki as PM.