A friend works with a govt establishment where salary payment comes later in the next or second month. He said, his tithing has been put on hold due to bills and debt to settle when salary is received. The issue is can he continue to defer its payment or should he borrow to pay it?

Tithe is a tenth of something, it literally means "a tenth". Tithe as a sacrifice is offered to God in the covenant better man and God. Abraham offered tithe to God through Melchizedek. The Children of Israel were commanded to give tithe to God. Therefore tithe must also be offered to God in the New Covenant. But remember, everything in the New Covenant is spiritual. The New Covenant is a transition from the carnal to the spiritual. The priesthood have transited from the priesthood of flesh (Levitical Priesthood) to a spiritual priesthood (the priesthood of the life of Christ). There is also the transition of high priest, from a high priest of the flesh to a spiritual high priest. A transition also took place from the sacrifice from a carnal sacrifice of flesh and plant to a spiritual sacrifice of the substance of Christ. So also have tithe transited from the tithe of the land to the tithe of Christ.

"And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’s. It is holy to the LORD." (Lev 27:30).

In Old Covenant the priest offer the tithe of the land which are fruits - the harvest. Whatever is harvested from the land that God has given His covenant people must be offered to God. The Old Covenant was a carnal covenant where God gave the people a carnal (physical) and expected a carnal (physical) tithe. Therefore the people have to explore and ploy the land, harvesting the fruits of the land and offer a tenth of it as tithe onto God. But the New Covenant is spiritual and God gave us a spiritual land. Therefore we must explore this spiritual land, harvest it and offer a tenth of the fruit as tithe onto God.

"for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’" (Acts 17:28).

Just as God gave Canaan to Israel and there they live and move and have their being. So also have God given us Christ and in him we live and move and have our being. Christ is the land God had given us and we must give to God the tithe of this land. The spiritual land that we are to tithe from is the spiritual substance of Christ. Tithe is a portion of the land that represent the whole land. By given a tenth to God the people of the covenant are simply saying our land is yours oh Lord. God gave them the land and they gave it back to God. This is th norm of a covenant; what belongs to one party is also owned by the other and together they have joint ownership of everything they posses. God gave the New Covenant people Christ and they must give back to God Christ.

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life— the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us" (1John 1:1-2).

We must explore the riches of Christ and offer it to God as tithe. You may ask, "how can we explore Christ and offer him to God?". Christ is the life, the life that God has given us. We must explore this life and offer it to God by expressing it. We must take the riches of the virtues in Christ and express it onto God, for this is tithing under the New Covenant.
While tithe refer to a tenth of the fruit of the land, first is the first of the fruit of the land. It could be the first of the harvest or the first born of livestock.First fruit also carries the principle of tithe, for first fruit is a portion of the land that represent the whole land. Therefore by giving God a first fruit the Israelites were giving God the whole of the land. Under the New Covenant Christ is also the first fruit. The first fruit is the spiritual substance of Christ and we in the New Covenant offer the first fruit the same way we offer tithe (they both represent the same principle.

sunch:
A friend works with a govt establishment where salary payment comes later in the next or second month. He said, his tithing has been put on hold due to bills and debt to settle when salary is received. The issue is can he continue to defer its payment or should he borrow to pay it?

As a christian, he is not supposed to tithe in the first instance.

Hiswordxray:
Tithe is a tenth of something, it literally means "a tenth". Tithe as a sacrifice is offered to God in the covenant better man and God. Abraham offered tithe to God through Melchizedek. The Children of Israel were commanded to give tithe to God. Therefore tithe must also be offered to God in the New Covenant. But remember, everything in the New Covenant is spiritual. The New Covenant is a transition from the carnal to the spiritual. The priesthood have transited from the priesthood of flesh (Levitical Priesthood) to a spiritual priesthood (the priesthood of the life of Christ). There is also the transition of high priest, from a high priest of the flesh to a spiritual high priest. A transition also took place from the sacrifice from a carnal sacrifice of flesh and plant to a spiritual sacrifice of the substance of Christ. So also have tithe transited from the tithe of the land to the tithe of Christ.

"And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’s. It is holy to the LORD." (Lev 27:30).

In Old Covenant the priest offer the tithe of the land which are fruits - the harvest. Whatever is harvested from the land that God has given His covenant people must be offered to God. The Old Covenant was a carnal covenant where God gave the people a carnal (physical) and expected a carnal (physical) tithe. Therefore the people have to explore and ploy the land, harvesting the fruits of the land and offer a tenth of it as tithe onto God. But the New Covenant is spiritual and God gave us a spiritual land. Therefore we must explore this spiritual land, harvest it and offer a tenth of the fruit as tithe onto God.

"for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’" (Acts 17:28).

Just as God gave Canaan to Israel and there they live and move and have their being. So also have God given us Christ and in him we live and move and have our being. Christ is the land God had given us and we must give to God the tithe of this land. The spiritual land that we are to tithe from is the spiritual substance of Christ. Tithe is a portion of the land that represent the whole land. By given a tenth to God the people of the covenant are simply saying our land is yours oh Lord. God gave them the land and they gave it back to God. This is th norm of a covenant; what belongs to one party is also owned by the other and together they have joint ownership of everything they posses. God gave the New Covenant people Christ and they must give back to God Christ.

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life— the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us" (1John 1:1-2).

We must explore the riches of Christ and offer it to God as tithe. You may ask, "how can we explore Christ and offer him to God?". Christ is the life, the life that God has given us. We must explore this life and offer it to God by expressing it. We must take the riches of the virtues in Christ and express it onto God, for this is tithing under the New Covenant.
While tithe refer to a tenth of the fruit of the land, first is the first of the fruit of the land. It could be the first of the harvest or the first born of livestock.First fruit also carries the principle of tithe, for first fruit is a portion of the land that represent the whole land. Therefore by giving God a first fruit the Israelites were giving God the whole of the land. Under the New Covenant Christ is also the first fruit. The first fruit is the spiritual substance of Christ and we in the New Covenant offer the first fruit the same way we offer tithe (they both represent the same principle.

this guy got revelation! CHRIST

Am yet to get a tangible response, please

sunch:
Am yet to get a tangible response, please

under the old covenant God requires your tenth but in the new covenant it is no more a pattern of carnal (physical) ordinance of paying a tithe of a produce but DISCIPLESHIP. Are you a disciple of Jesus?

Hiswordxray:

A transition also took place from the sacrifice from a carnal sacrifice of flesh and plant to a spiritual sacrifice of the substance of Christ. So also have tithe transited from the tithe of the land to the tithe of Christ.


We must explore the riches of Christ and offer it to God as tithe. You may ask, "how can we explore Christ and offer him to God?". Christ is the life, the life that God has given us. We must explore this life and offer it to God by expressing it. We must take the riches of the virtues in Christ and express it onto God, for this is tithing under the New Covenant.

I must commend this exegesis. But I remain unconvinced. Questions:

1. What is this tithe of Christ and is there any scriptural proof for it?

2. Is there anywhere the Bible likened the "riches of Christ" to money? Which will then require a tithe.

GeneralTee:


I must commend this exegesis. But I remain unconvinced. Questions:

1. What is this tithe of Christ and is there any scriptural proof for it?

2. Is there anywhere the Bible likened the "riches of Christ" to money? Which will then require a tithe.

I don't think you understand my point, let me post more.

I mean tithe in the New Covenant is expressing Christ toward the Father - expressing the virtues and the life of Christ in us.
Offerings in the Old Covenant are given very frequently. There are a lot of offerings, especially Burnt offerings. The essence of burnt offerings is so they would be a sweet-smelling aroma onto God. A continual ascendency of a sweet-smelling aroma of offerings is the intercourse and romance of the covenant. As God pours out His blessing upon the people and they continue to allow offerings ascend onto Him in sweet-smelling aroma. Remember these offerings are the representative of the land and it riches. Therefore God blesses the people with the land and it riches and they bless Him back with sweet-smelling aroma of the offerings. It is a romance, a viscous circle of reckless giving, a continuous intercourse that brings the covenant to it's glory. And the beauty of this intercourse lies in the principle of the tithe. As the people give a tenth of the little they have God blesses them so that there next try would be larger than there form tenth. A when they this larger tenth to God, God gives them even more blesses. And now they have a greater and larger tenth to give to God which cause God to bless them in a greater abundance. The circle continue until the people as so overwhelmed with God's blessing that it because embarrassing and the nations of the world could not help but notice it and the glory of the Lord shall be visible onto all. This is the destination of the covenant.
That we might understand this principle as the New Covenant people. That this intercourse and romance might be our life style. Let us continue to explore Christ until we are lost in him, let us carry out our priestly ministry and let our lives be a burnt offering, a sweet-smelling aroma onto God. Our lives becomes a sweet-smelling aroma ascending continuously onto God when we live a life the continuously expresses Christ.

IssyGenius:

this guy got revelation! CHRIST

Thanks, it is an extract of a book I'm writing. I hope to publish the eBook this month.

Hiswordxray:

I don't think you understand my point, let me post more.

I mean tithe in the New Covenant is expressing Christ toward the Father - expressing the virtues and the life of Christ in us.
Offerings in the Old Covenant are given very frequently. There are a lot of offerings, especially Burnt offerings. The essence of burnt offerings is so they would be a sweet-smelling aroma onto God. A continual ascendency of a sweet-smelling aroma of offerings is the intercourse and romance of the covenant. As God pours out His blessing upon the people and they continue to allow offerings ascend onto Him in sweet-smelling aroma. Remember these offerings are the representative of the land and it riches. Therefore God blesses the people with the land and it riches and they bless Him back with sweet-smelling aroma of the offerings. It is a romance, a viscous circle of reckless giving, a continuous intercourse that brings the covenant to it's glory. And the beauty of this intercourse lies in the principle of the tithe. As the people give a tenth of the little they have God blesses them so that there next try would be larger than there form tenth. A when they this larger tenth to God, God gives them even more blesses. And now they have a greater and larger tenth to give to God which cause God to bless them in a greater abundance. The circle continue until the people as so overwhelmed with God's blessing that it because embarrassing and the nations of the world could not help but notice it and the glory of the Lord shall be visible onto all. This is the destination of the covenant.
That we might understand this principle as the New Covenant people. That this intercourse and romance might be our life style. Let us continue to explore Christ until we are lost in him, let us carry out our priestly ministry and let our lives be a burnt offering, a sweet-smelling aroma onto God. Our lives becomes a sweet-smelling aroma ascending continuously onto God when we live a life the continuously expresses Christ.

Three themes may be exhumed from your post:

1. The tithes is like a burnt offering in the OT. A sweet smelling offering to God.
2. Continual tithing is intercourse with God, leading to increased blessing.
3. This whole act of tithing is our offering to God that leads to a depth of fellowship and relations with him.

I disagree.

You had earlier rightly pointed out that practices in the OT took up new meaning in the NT. Why did tithe not change.

Fact is this: Christ is become the sacrificial Lamb for God's Israel the Church. He's our burnt offering.

It is in response to what he did that we offer up lives of holy living as our own sacrifice, that is pleasing to him. Romans 12 that spoke about this NEVER mentioned tithes in all that chapter.

The Christian life is one of grace wherein the blessing we enjoy is GIVEN not EARNED by works of law or by tithing.

Tithing is an OT ordinance that vanished with the NT. It is today transformed to free will giving. All scriptures that spoke of giving in the NT not for once mentioned tithe.

I suspect you are a followers of Chris Oyakhilome. It is you guys that know how to read bogus meaning to simple texts of scriptures.

I wish you the best in your book writing but, friend, what you've written here is false doctrine.

GeneralTee:
Three themes may be exhumed from your post:1. The tithes is like a burnt offering in the OT. A sweet smelling offering to God.2. Continual tithing is intercourse with God, leading to increased blessing.3. This whole act of tithing is our offering to God that leads to a depth of fellowship and relations with him.I disagree.You had earlier rightly pointed out that practices in the OT took up new meaning in the NT. Why did tithe not change.Fact is this: Christ is become the sacrificial Lamb for God's Israel the Church. He's our burnt offering.It is in response to what he did that we offer up lives of holy living as our own sacrifice, that is pleasing to him. Romans 12 that spoke about this NEVER mentioned tithes in all that chapter.The Christian life is one of grace wherein the blessing we enjoy is GIVEN not EARNED by works of law or by tithing.Tithing is an OT ordinance that vanished with the NT. It is today transformed to free will giving. All scriptures that spoke of giving in the NT not for once mentioned tithe.I suspect you are a followers of Chris Oyakhilome. It is you guys that know how to read bogus meaning to simple texts of scriptures.I wish you the best in your book writing but, friend, what you've written here is false doctrine.

You still don't understand what I'm saying. I said everything in the Old Covenant changes especially tithe.

Hiswordxray:
I don't think you understand my point, let me post more.I mean tithe in the New Covenant is expressing Christ toward the Father - expressing the virtues and the life of Christ in us.

Hiswordxray:
Tithe is a tenth of something, it literally means "a tenth". Tithe as a sacrifice is offered to God in the covenant better man and God. Abraham offered tithe to God through Melchizedek. The Children of Israel were commanded to give tithe to God. Therefore tithe must also be offered to God in the New Covenant. But remember, everything in the New Covenant is spiritual. The New Covenant is a transition from the carnal to the spiritual. The priesthood have transited from the priesthood of flesh (Levitical Priesthood) to a spiritual priesthood (the priesthood of the life of Christ). There is also the transition of high priest, from a high priest of the flesh to a spiritual high priest. A transition also took place from the sacrifice from a carnal sacrifice of flesh and plant to a spiritual sacrifice of the substance of Christ. So also have tithe transited from the tithe of the land to the tithe of Christ... [b]But the New Covenant is spiritual and God gave us a spiritual land. Therefore we must explore this spiritual land, harvest it and offer a tenth of the fruit as tithe onto God... The spiritual land that we are to tithe from is the spiritual substance of Christ[/b]We must explore the riches of Christ and offer it to God as tithe. You may ask, "how can we explore Christ and offer him to God?". Christ is the life, the life that God has given us. We must explore this life and offer it to God by [b]expressing it. We must take the riches of the virtues in Christ and express it onto God, for this is tithing under the New Covenant.[/b]Under the New Covenant Christ is also the first fruit. The first fruit is the spiritual substance of Christ and we in the New Covenant offer the first fruit the same way we offer tithe (they both represent the same principle.

This is pretty clear anybody could understand this. I didn't say we must pay money as tithe. We are in a more spiritual covenant and everything now is spiritual. We don't pay physical tithe but we offer a spiritual substance in Christ as tithe. That spiritual substance is the life of God in us.

Let me post more from my book so you don't get the wrong idea.


Under the New Covenant tithe and first fruit are not physical things. Yes they can be expressed in a physical way but they are not physical or natural in themselves. Tithe is not fruits or animals or even money. Even in the Old Testament nobody was asked to pay money as tithe. God specifically commanded that the tithe must be the fruit of the land not the money gotten from the fruit of the land. Land doesn't grow money. Paying money as tithe defies the very principle of tithe. If you really want to pay tithe as it is described in the Old Testament then you must go to farm in Palestine, harvest what you have planted, go to Jerusalem then look for the Levites and give them a tenth of what you have harvested. This is very impossible because the temple have been destroyed and the priesthood of the Levites no longer exist. You can't obey some part of the law and ignore the rest. The Bible made it clear that if you disobeyed one part then you disobeyed all. You cannot obey the law of the Old Testament partially, if you want to obey it then obey it completely. You just have to ask yourself this question, do you belong to the Old Covenant or the New Covenant? And if you belong to the New Covenant then you must tithe the New Covenant way. Which is simply expressing the life of Christ in you. Having your root grow deep in Christ so that you can bear fruits of righteousness and offer it to God as a sacrifice of tithe, first fruit and a burnt offering.

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