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Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by ccollins(m): 7:02am On Nov 06, 2009
@all,HELLO, Is there not suppose to be sum kind of outward and inward difference btw christians and pple of the world.is it not God who created the inner of our body that also created the outward.lets not be dumb,lets reason.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by 9ja4eva: 2:21pm On Nov 06, 2009
youngies:

The question is not if hair curling is a sin or not, but wheather it is an officially ACCEPTED standard practice in Christ Embassy that it is better to have a curled hair.

There is no need for members of CE to put anyone who dare raise any observation to the sword.
It is no biggie if there is an unwritten doctrine that male members should endeavour to fry their hairs.

Afterall, the Celes wear white garments without footwears
The Catholic priests wear white cassocks
The Deeper Life neither watch TV nor wear ear rings, let alone relax their hair.

So it is nobody's business if Mr. Chris and his boys decides to wear Afro or GALLAS, afterall they are into SHOWBIZ


Answers it.


Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Joagbaje(m): 4:59am On Nov 08, 2009
@all,HELLO, Is there not suppose to be sum kind of outward and inward difference btw christians and pple of the world.is it not God who created the inner of our body that also created the outward.lets not be dumb,lets reason.
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That is sense knowledge. The bible didn't talk of any outward difference but inward change. Well maybe the difference should be. " Christian carry dada hair , sinners look decent " Christian smell sweat and sinners wear perfume. Don't tell me you're one of the people that believes that any christian wearing perfume is smelling carnal.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Horus(m): 10:07am On Nov 08, 2009
There is a link between your hairs and the pineal gland in your brain. When you perm your hair the pineal gland in your brain becomes calcified.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Nobody: 3:01am On Nov 09, 2009
whats the pineal gland?

an old wives tale i heard was that the hair channels thoughts.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by alexis(m): 6:44am On Nov 09, 2009
Curling ones air is not sin, however, it comes across that most of the pastors in Christ Embassy is taking the curling affair a bit over-board. It seems that most of them are trying so hard "to be like" Pastor Chris in appearance. The attempt to dress like pastor Chris shows that these pastors are more concerned about his physical looks and how it relates to them that what he teaches and how it affects their lives. They are living in his shadow and that is what people are raising their eyebrows about.

I want to be like Jesus - I am concerned about the spiritual significance of his ministry and how it relates to my life. However, I do not have to dress the way He did because I want to be like Him; I don't grow my hair because I want to be like Jesus. I am me yet I am of Him.

I think these pastors are loosing their personal identities with what they are doing - it is not a sin but it does send a lot of mixed messages.

My question is - why are they curling their hair?
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by odedele: 8:43am On Nov 10, 2009
all of them na homo.period
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Horus(m): 11:44am On Nov 10, 2009
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tpia.:

whats the pineal gland?

an old wives tale i heard was that the hair channels thoughts.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by OmoOnile1: 9:47am On Nov 18, 2009
These are signs of the end times. Charlatans feigning to be believers.

It all gets down to wrong leadership, the way we have it in all spheres of life be it governments, households and the churches. A father who smokes cigarettes and drinks alcohol in the house is indirectly imbibing such cultures in his children. Same goes for a church where idle pastors dissipate their energy in the hair salons and on bleaching creams.

How many regular workers in Lagos can create time for such inanities. Such charlatans have deluded their followers to the extent of blind fanaticism after receiving or fantasizing endless slideshows of illusions they term 'miracles' .

Christianity does not prescribe fanaticism, rather if you can walk in the ways of the Lord, you will ask and shall receive. Poverty has turned millions of so called Xtians to 'almajiris' in the face of the Lord. They look up to their pastors as next to God therby becoming unable to even read the bible and free themselves from their slavish submission to their pastors.

We should be able to reason along with the bible and not turn ourselves into excursionists in the wilderness of hopelessness.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by BlueMagic2(m): 12:35am On Nov 22, 2009
People who take religion and man of God seriously should find out about a pastor called JIM JONES and his JONESTOWN.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 1:06am On Nov 22, 2009
alexis:

Curling ones air is not sin, however, it comes across that most of the pastors in Christ Embassy is taking the curling affair a bit over-board. It seems that most of them are trying so hard "to be like" Pastor Chris in appearance. The attempt to dress like pastor Chris shows that these pastors are more concerned about his physical looks and how it relates to them that what he teaches and how it affects their lives. They are living in his shadow and that is what people are raising their eyebrows about.

I want to be like Jesus - I am concerned about the spiritual significance of his ministry and how it relates to my life. However, I do not have to dress the way He did because I want to be like Him; I don't grow my hair because I want to be like Jesus. I am me yet I am of Him.

I think these pastors are loosing their personal identities with what they are doing - it is not a sin but it does send a lot of mixed messages.

My question is - why are they curling their hair?


Please note that I am not saying Pastor Chris is trying to be like Jesus . . . I don't know and I don't care, cus only him can really answer that question. . . instead my focus is on this your highlighted statement.


I don't grow my hair because I want to be like Jesus


1. This statement is loaded, good, sound and confusing all at the same time.

2. What do you mean by not wanting to grow your hair.

3. The statement implies that you seem to have a perception of what the Hair of the Messiah looked like.

4. Which kind of hair did the Messiah have.

5. How do you think the Messiah looked like.

6. The Bible makes us to understand that we need to tell the Truth at all times.

7. Is there not something wrong somewhere when Pastors (who are supposed to know the Truth) ends up promoting an European image of the Messiah, even though the bible made it very clear that:

Europeans were the Gentiles (not the Africans) and that the Messiah was certainly not an European.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 10:20am On Nov 22, 2009
^^^

Here we go again with the crazy heads. . .jesus was NOT black African, get that into your racist skull.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by KunleOshob(m): 12:35pm On Nov 22, 2009
@Tudor
How was church today grin Hope you paid your tithes in full.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 12:54pm On Nov 22, 2009
Very funny. . .sorry you're late. Tithes are usually paid on the first/last sunday of the month after salaries have been paid. I don carry my own buy beer, pastor will have to wait till next month.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by KunleOshob(m): 1:13pm On Nov 22, 2009
Tudór:

Very funny. . .sorry you're late. Tithes are usually paid on the first/last sunday of the month after salaries have been paid. I don carry my own buy beer, pastor will have to wait till next month.
Yes but you are also expected to tithe of any other income or gift which you may receive during the cause of the month. You shouldn't limit your tithes to your salary alone if you don't want God to limit his blessings to just your job.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 1:53pm On Nov 22, 2009
No shit, we tithe gifts too?
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 8:31pm On Nov 22, 2009
Tudór:

^^^

Here we go again with the crazy heads. . .jesus was NOT black African, get that into your racist skull.

- YES he is grin grin grin Mr. Atheist grin grin grin . . .prove otherwise at least I have the Bible to back up my claims . . . what do you have to back up yours . . . grin grin grin . . . or are you going to use evolution to show that the Messiah was White and European . . . . cheesy cheesy cheesy

- By the way Mr. Atheist are you frontsliding away from atheism or something . . . how come you claim to be an atheist yet you are still holding on to the brainwashing you got about the race of the Messiah. . . . why are you still holding on steadfastly to the White Messiah even though you claim not to believe in the bible. ITS THAT NOT CONTRADICTORY. grin grin grin grin

An Atheist fighting tooth and nail that the Messiah was not black . . . shocked shocked shocked . . .men that is some confusing piece of information:

- 1. An atheist is not supposed to believe in the Bible and hence not supposed to believe in a Messiah in the first place.
- 2. The atheist that claims not to believe in the Bible is also the same atheist that is fighting to maintain and preserve the European image of the Messiah. . .
- 3. The existence or non - existence of a Messiah should not bother an atheist, yet for some reason the race and skin colour of the Messiah seems to bother Tudor. . .


Someone is having a crisis of mind don't you think . . . Ooops i think we have a backsliding atheist on our hands . . . I think Tudor needs to choose one and stay with it . . . which one is it that you are jumping from ''Atheism" to "White Messiah".

Tudor why are you still holding on to your bible beliefs even though you claim not to . . .
Tudor why are you still fighting to ensure that the European White Jesus is upheld even though you are claiming to be an atheist . . .

Are we even sure Tudor is who he claims to be . . . this one that he is supporting Atheism and White Messiah both at the same time . . . shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 9:14pm On Nov 22, 2009
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Firstly Mr crazy-head racist, who is "messiah"? I only know the bloke as a dead carpenter called Jesus.

2. You're right an atheist doesn't believe in the bible so your stupid 'evidence' about the Jesus being black in the bible or how the "creator" told you this in your dreams is shit.

3. I find it insulting if not sad that an african would so desperately try to link the black race to the white mans saviour/god who I might add loved and commanded slavery of which we were victims for centuries.

4. Its not by force to be jewish mr crazy head. It shows your inferiority complex the way you're desperately trying to label jews negroid.

5. And incase you're illiterate(cos you have no idea as to the definition of an atheist), an atheist is one who does not believe in god or gods and no definition includes opinions on the race of ancient jews. . . So using extremes such as moving from "Atheism" to "White messiah" is just daft. . .gerrit ganja head?
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 9:42pm On Nov 22, 2009
Tudór:

^^^
Firstly Mr crazy-head racist, who is "messiah"? I only know the bloke as a dead carpenter called Jesus.

2. You're right an atheist doesn't believe in the bible so your stupid 'evidence' about the Jesus being black in the bible or how the "creator" told you this in your dreams is shit.

3. I find it insulting if not sad that an african would so desperately try to link the black race to the white mans saviour/god who I might add loved and commanded slavery of which we were victims for centuries.

4. Its not by force to be jewish mr crazy head. It shows your inferiority complex the way you're desperately trying to label jews negroid.

5. And incase you're illiterate(cos you have no idea as to the definition of an atheist), an atheist is one who does not believe in god or gods and no definition includes opinions on the race of ancient jews. . . So using extremes such as moving from "Atheism" to "White messiah" is just daft. . .gerrit ganja head?

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1. Keep deceiving yourself to help you sleep at nigth . . .

2. If you don't believe in the bible then stop contradicting yourself by arguing about his Whiteness or Blackness . . . an informed person who does not beleive the Bible would normally simply keep quiet instead : you have opened your mouth to show that you are not even in full understanding of the kind of responsibility your atheistic position bestows upon you.

3. Naaa . . . the one with an inferiority complex is one who is an atheist because the west says so and not becuase science shows so.

4. The one who needs to examine himself and his faith is one who beliefs in claims to be an atheist and yet can't seem answer the simply question : HOW DID EXISTENCE AND LIFE BEGIN AND WHERE.

5. Naaa . . . the one who is unsure is the one who automatically equateS the Messiah of the bible to be a White man's god  . . . despite claiming to be knowledgeable (even though the same Bible never claimed to have anything to do with Europeans, infact most of the people that seemed to have a relationship with the Creator in the bible seem to stem from people that were somehow connected to Africa/Middle East one way or another ). . . the bible is not about europeans , was never about europeans . . .and infact europeans are the only ones called gentiles . . . (even Africans were not called Gentiles).

grin grin grin grin Tudor you disappoint men . . .  grin grin grin grin how can you stoop so low as to say that the Bible is talking about the White man's god . . . .now i can confirm that the brainwashing is still in full effect despite you attempts to claim that you are an atheist.



6. The one who is brainwashed is the one who seems to be supporting things that are Eurocentric in nature but still continues to deceive self into thinking the he or she is mentally independent of the same Europeans.

7. You might have been mentally traumaticed by your time in Covenant University, nevertheless that does not mean u still are not brainwashed into subconsciously believing and defending the White image of the Messiah. . .


grin grin grin grin grin TUDOR THE ATHEIST THAT BELIEVES IN A WHITE MESSIAH . . . .NAIRALAND NEVER FAILS TO IMPRESS . . .  grin grin grin grin

8. I am not claiming the Jews to be black.

. . INSTEAD I AM STATING AND PROCLAIMING WHAT THE CREATOR HIMSELF HAS ALREADY SAID IN THE BIBLE THAT . . . . THE CHILDREN OF ISREAL WHERE LIKE THE ETHIOPIANS . . . . THAT IS THE TRUTH . . . IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT GO AND SUE THE CREATOR HIMSELF . . .



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9. Tudor and the "White European Jews" . . . .  grin grin grin grin


Tudor . . . .Tudor . . .  grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 9:45pm On Nov 22, 2009
Tudór:

^^^
Firstly Mr crazy-head racist, who is "messiah"? I only know the bloke as a dead carpenter called Jesus.

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

1. The name Jesus is a so called European name given to the Messiah. . .

2. The Messiah was not an european . . .

3. Hence i do not refer to him by that name . . .
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Horus(m): 11:03pm On Nov 22, 2009
TUDOR THE ATHEIST THAT BELIEVES IN A WHITE MESSIAH

The image of a fake white messiah was used for propaganda. Revelation 1:14-15 describes Jesus’ hair texture which is like lamb’s wool as well as in 1 Corinthians 11:14 where it states that it is a shame for a man to have long hair. This goes to show you that the image of Jesus with long hair could not be the true image of the true Son of God, Jesus Christ.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 8:46am On Nov 23, 2009
@mr racist.
1. I've tried my best, but would anyone try to educate this wierdo that atheism has no link whatsoever with the skin colour of ancient nomadic tribesmen. He claims to be 29 yrs old (probably 30) but still reasons like a kid.

2. Christianity was brought to our motherland by the slave trading white prick. So yes, yahweh is the white mans saviour. Its funny how the white man himself has abandoned such delusions centuries ago but Africans are still keen on it, even exporting it abroad. What a shame.

3. Here is one who blames the europeans and americans for every woe in his life, yet comfortably lives amongst them in manchester while trying shamelessly to convert their messiah to a negro.

4. Not once has this guy ever produced evidence to support his claim besides rambling on that the creator told him and presenting some crazy unreviewed book.

5. Mr man, be confident as a negro, you don't need to make jesus out as a negro to give meaning to your life.

6. This thread isn't abt existence dont divert
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 9:05am On Nov 23, 2009
No2Atheism:

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

1. The name Jesus is a so called European name given to the Messiah. . .

2. The Messiah was not an european . . .

3. Hence i do not refer to him by that name . . .
He ain't a NEGRO either so quit making him out to be one!
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 9:05am On Nov 23, 2009
No2Atheism:

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

1. The name Jesus is a so called European name given to the Messiah. . .

2. The Messiah was not an european . . .

3. Hence i do not refer to him by that name . . .
He ain't a NEGRO either so quit making him out to be one!
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 11:12am On Nov 23, 2009
Tudór:

He ain't a NEGRO either so quit making him out to be one!

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Keep dancing around . . .

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The last time i checked, an Ethiopian is considered to be a Negro . . . unless off course Tudor has changed it . . . grin grin grin
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 11:39am On Nov 23, 2009
No2Atheism:

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Keep dancing around . . .

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The last time i checked, an Ethiopian is considered to be a Negro . . . unless off course Tudor has changed it . . . grin grin grin
Keep deluding yourself. Last time I checked, ancient israel wasn't in ethiopia. . . .unless ofcourse No2Atheism is just being a slowpoke.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 8:43pm On Nov 23, 2009
Tudór:

Keep deluding yourself. Last time I checked, ancient israel wasn't in ethiopia. . . .unless ofcourse No2Atheism is just being a slowpoke.


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Tudor is dancing . . . keep dancing . . . . grin grin grin grin
Tudor Tudor keeep dancing . . .  grin grin grin

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I can't believe you have descended this low just to try and cover your ass even though its obvious to every man and his dog that you are just doing your best to riggle out of the corner you have boxed yourself into . . . .

1. You do not need to be in Ethiopia before you are called an Ethiopian . . . .

2. Mr. Atheist Tudor please note that I did not say "Isreal is in the Land of Ethiopia", instead I said "Isrealites were like the Ethiopians",  grin grin grin grin those are two different statements in case you do not know cheesy

3. An Ethiopian is the ancient name that was used to refer to ALL black people . . . . grin grin grin grin . . . . let me repeat that again in case you did not get it.


. . . An Ethiopian is the ancient name that was used to refer to ALL black people . . .


4. Tudor please do not disgrace yourself on nairaland, please try to understand that there is a difference between "an Ethiopian" and "Land of Ethiopia" . . . grin grin grin

5. Tudor stop making straw men arguments just to save yourself the embarrasment of your position.


Please go back to the library and try to read some historical books cus it seems your frame of reference as to the meaning of the name Ethiopian is a little limited in range.

The last time i checked . . . A PERSON CAN BE AN ETHIOPIAN WITHOUT ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE LAND OF ETHIOPIA. . . hence your statement and stance does not even make logical sense in terms of my statements.


Tudor the Atheist that beleives in a White Jesus
. . . please note that:

THE CREATOR HIMSELF SAID ISREALITES WERE LIKE THE ETHIOPIANS.


THE CREATOR DID NOT SAY ISREAL WAS IN ETHIOPIA.


Please do not embarras yourself and kindly try to understand the difference between the two english statements given above.

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[size=14pt]Finally, TUDOR you still have not explained why you an atheist is very much in defense of the White Jesus . . . .[/size]
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 9:14pm On Nov 23, 2009
^^^
Why the senseless ranting?

Pls can anyone ask this joker to show us different ancient records where ALL black people were referred to as ethiopians?

What kind of slowpoke uses quips like "The creator told me they are like ethiopians" as evidence for anything. What damn creator?

Your creator must be retarded because no evidence acheological or whatsoever points to ancient jews as Negro.

So take your crazy ramblings to the dogs. . .no sensible human being with perfect intellect would take you seriously.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by Tudor6(f): 9:15pm On Nov 23, 2009
No2Atheism:


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Tudor is dancing . . . keep dancing . . . . grin grin grin grin
Tudor Tudor keeep dancing . . . grin grin grin

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Damn, sometimes I do wonder if you're a 30 year old adult as you claim. . . . This is shocking.
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 10:13pm On Nov 23, 2009
Tudór:

Damn, sometimes I do wonder if you're a 30 year old adult as you claim. . . . This is shocking.

Hmm . . . .claim  . . .  lipsrsealed

shocked shocked shocked and who tells you I am 30 yrs old . . . are we still hanging unto straws or something . . .  grin grin grin


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Seems like someone is trying to change the topic . . . grin grin grin grin
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 10:15pm On Nov 23, 2009
Tudór:

^^^
Why the senseless ranting?

Pls can anyone ask this joker to show us different ancient records where ALL black people were referred to as ethiopians?

What kind of slowpoke uses quips like "The creator told me they are like ethiopians" as evidence for anything. What damn creator?

Your creator must be retarded because no evidence acheological or whatsoever points to ancient jews as Negro.

So take your crazy ramblings to the dogs. . .no sensible human being with perfect intellect would take you seriously.

. . . more HOT AIR . . .

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Trying to sweep your issues under the carpet . . .oops Tudor the atheist with any affinity for a White Jesus . . . grin grin grin
Re: Must Every Pastor Gel Their Hair In Chris Embassy? by No2Atheism(m): 11:04pm On Nov 23, 2009
Tudór:

@mr racist.
1. I've tried my best, but would anyone try to educate this wierdo that atheism has no link whatsoever with the skin colour of ancient nomadic tribesmen. He claims to be 29 yrs old (probably 30) but still reasons like a kid.

2. Christianity was brought to our motherland by the slave trading white prick. So yes, yahweh is the white mans saviour. Its funny how the white man himself has abandoned such delusions centuries ago but Africans are still keen on it, even exporting it abroad. What a shame.

3. Here is one who blames the europeans and americans for every woe in his life, yet comfortably lives amongst them in manchester while trying shamelessly to convert their messiah to a negro.

4. Not once has this guy ever produced evidence to support his claim besides rambling on that the creator told him and presenting some crazy unreviewed book.

5. Mr man, be confident as a negro, you don't need to make jesus out as a negro to give meaning to your life.

6. This thread isn't abt existence dont divert

Okay now this is starting to get creepy . . .

1. 29 - 30 yrs  undecided
2. Manchester . . .   undecided

WHAT DOES AGE AND LOCATION HAVE TO DO WITH THE DISCUSSION AT HAND . . .  undecided undecided undecided . . .

. . . this is really very very creepy. UNLESS OFF COURSE YOU ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO OBTAIN PERSONAL INFORMATION

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2. Christianity was brought to our motherland by the slave trading white prick. So yes, yahweh is the white mans saviour. Its funny how the white man himself has abandoned such delusions centuries ago but Africans are still keen on it, even exporting it abroad. What a shame.

3. Here is one who blames the europeans and americans for every woe in his life, yet comfortably lives amongst them in manchester while trying shamelessly to convert their messiah to a negro.

This is really embarrasing . . . you ought to sue Covenant University cus this your hubris (in place of a statement of fact) is quite embarrasing to say the least . . .ALL THAT YOU HAVE SAID IS BASED ON YOUR OPINION AND NOT ON HISTORICAL FACT . . . .men this is really embarrasing.

Do you not even realise what this propaganda have to say about your knowledge of history . . .

WORD OF ADVICE:

1. Its better to hear twice and speak once otherwise you are bound to expose yourself as to how limited your knowledge of history really IS . . .

2. Any student of history, truth and fact would be embarrased to be saying the things that you are currently saying . . .

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