[b] HOLINESS AND HEAVEN
" Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he." Proverbs 29:18 Do you want to make heaven? are you planning to be there? what are you doing for heaven? what will the angels say of you? what will you be remebered for?

when the roll is called up yonder, will you be there? is your name there in the book of life? shall we see you arrayed in spotless garment? are you going to be there in heaven?

Are your garment spotless are they white as snow? will you be qualified to cross through
the portals of the gate of heaven or will you be rejected
how many in heaven knows your name? does heaven says you are qualified? will Jesus say to you welldone thou good and faithful servant or will He say I know
you not ye sinner.

Are you on the blood sprinkled way, the path that the saviour trod, are you on the way to heaven or are you busy enjoying in sin, saying this is my life I need to run it?

is your life pleasing to God? can he boast of it to the devil? have thou considered my servant Job? and noah a preacher of righteousness and Enoch a man of holiness? David a man after my own heat, can God be
proud of you?

Are your services acceptable to God like the services of Samuel, Apostle paul, those who fought a good fight of faith, men of truth,
intergrity and righteousness. If I come to your house in heaven will I see you? If I ask of you yonder can I see you, in heaven will
you be there? in the worship sections with the host of heaven will you be there? to eat of the tree of life and drink from the living water of life.

The beauty of heaven can you afford to miss? are you still living in secret sins saying that holiness is impossible, are you still holding on to unforgiveness, malice,
grudges, wickedness, lust, pride, greedy eyes, jealousy, gossip, back biting?, are you still holding on to your restitution you are afraid or ashamed? are you still holding on
to your boyfriend or girlfriend? are you still covering your sins, are you still holding on to your earrings, Jesus says take away your weavon, attachments, wool, artificial hairs, cortex, lipstick, trousers, you say no I cant?,

Are you still holding on to listening to wordly musics, bad musics, ungodly films, gambling,
bleaching, using perfume, wedding ring, chains, bangles, body huged blouses and shirts, short skirts, tight gown, pencil mouth trousers? are all these things going over to eternity with you? think heaven

run to Jesus today and repent of your sins, death gives no notifications, the raptures is imminent, dont trade eternal bliss for the pleasures of life that leads to condemnation.. Repent


A HEAVEN TO GAIN, A HELL TO AVOID [/b]

Suspect33:
[b] HOLINESS AND HEAVEN
" Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he." Proverbs 29:18 Do you want to make heaven? are you planning to be there? what are you doing for heaven? what will the angels say of you? what will you be remebered for?

when the roll is called up yonder, will you be there? is your name there in the book of life? shall we see you arrayed in spotless garment? are you going to be there in heaven?



Are your garment spotless are they white as snow? will you be qualified to cross through
the portals of the gate of heaven or will you be rejected
how many in heaven knows your name? does heaven says you are qualified? will Jesus say to you welldone thou good and faithful servant or will He say I know
you not ye sinner.

Are you on the blood sprinkled way, the path that the saviour trod, are you on the way to heaven or are you busy enjoying in sin, saying this is my life I need to run it?

is your life pleasing to God? can he boast of it to the devil? have thou considered my servant Job? and noah a preacher of righteousness and Enoch a man of holiness? David a man after my own heat, can God be
proud of you?

Are your services acceptable to God like the services of Samuel, Apostle paul, those who fought a good fight of faith, men of truth,
intergrity and righteousness. If I come to your house in heaven will I see you? If I ask of you yonder can I see you, in heaven will
you be there? in the worship sections with the host of heaven will you be there? to eat of the tree of life and drink from the living water of life.

The beauty of heaven can you afford to miss? are you still living in secret sins saying that holiness is impossible, are you still holding on to unforgiveness, malice,
grudges, wickedness, lust, pride, greedy eyes, jealousy, gossip, back biting?, are you still holding on to your restitution you are afraid or ashamed? are you still holding on
to your boyfriend or girlfriend? are you still covering your sins, are you still holding on to your earrings, Jesus says take away your weavon, attachments, wool, artificial hairs, cortex, lipstick, trousers, you say no I cant?,

Are you still holding on to listening to wordly musics, bad musics, ungodly films, gambling,
bleaching, using perfume, wedding ring, chains, bangles, body huged blouses and shirts, short skirts, tight gown, pencil mouth trousers? are all these things going over to eternity with you? think heaven

run to Jesus today and repent of your sins, death gives no notifications, the raptures is imminent, dont trade eternal bliss for the pleasures of life that leads to condemnation.. Repent


A HEAVEN TO GAIN, A HELL TO AVOID [/b]

With this standards to you think that up to 10 percent of Christians will make heaven?

Now lets analyze humanity's fate

All the people that have lived and died without knowing Jesus from the advent of Christianity till present will be nothing less than 6 billion people in number. In terms of percentages, around 20 percent of the world's population is Christian. Now based on your standards I doubt if 10 percent will make it. You can even use random sampling to confirm that.

Statisticians agree that since the inception of humanity till date not up to 10 percent of all humans that have ever existed believed in Jesus.

Now looking at this figures, how do you reconcile an all loving God with such figures. Well you can say that god doesn't have the ability to change our will but wait I thought you said your god is omnipotent.
I am struggling to wrap my head around this,
A person exists, he loves 'll of humanity more than we can ever fathom, he has all the power in the universe. So we have power and intent together. But looking at the results, most of humanity will be tortured forever .
Now that is so contradictory.

But let me think, what if its spiritual and my fallible human mind can't understand it.
Hmmm. I am sorry dudes, there is nothing spiritual or mysterious about that, what we have is a combination of stories compiled for a period of 5000 years into a religion. A book with over 30 authors. The contradiction we see is human contradiction as a result of people's different opinions in one subject being married together by force. In reality, the religion is blatantly wrong cos such a god who loves humanity and has the power to save humanity cannot fail in his mission. If he fails then he isn't god. But he fails because the theory is wrong and he doesn't exist

LiberaDeus:


With this standards to you think that up to 10 percent of Christians will make heaven?

Now lets analyze humanity's fate

All the people that have lived and died without knowing Jesus from the advent of Christianity till present will be nothing less than 6 billion people in number. In terms of percentages, around 20 percent of the world's population is Christian. Now based on your standards I doubt if 10 percent will make it. You can even use random sampling to confirm that.

Statisticians agree that since the inception of humanity till date not up to 10 percent of all humans that have ever existed believed in Jesus.

Now looking at this figures, how do you reconcile an all loving God with such figures. Well you can say that god doesn't have the ability to change our will but wait I thought you said your god is omnipotent.
I am struggling to wrap my head around this,
A person exists, he loves 'll of humanity more than we can ever fathom, he has all the power in the universe. So we have power and intent together. But looking at the results, most of humanity will be tortured forever .
Now that is so contradictory.

But let me think, what if its spiritual and my fallible human mind can't understand it.
Hmmm. I am sorry dudes, there is nothing spiritual or mysterious about that, what we have is a combination of stories compiled for a period of 5000 years into a religion. A book with over 30 authors. The contradiction we see is human contradiction as a result of people's different opinions in one subject being married together by force. In reality, the religion is blatantly wrong cos such a god who loves humanity and has the power to save humanity cannot fail in his mission. If he fails then he isn't god. But he fails because the theory is wrong and he doesn't exist

i am not one to argue on issues like this, like the book of isaiah 55:8-9 "My thought says the Lord are not like yours, and my ways are different from yours. As high as the heavens are above the earth so high are my ways and thoughts above yours.

I'll leave you to ponder upon this, where did life generate, who created all these.

Psalm 14:1; Fools say to themselves, there is no God.

Suspect33:
i am not one to argue on issues like this, like the book of isaiah 55:8-9 "My thought says the Lord are not like yours, and my ways are different from yours. As high as the heavens are above the earth so high are my ways and thoughts above yours.

I'll leave you to ponder upon this, where did life generate, who created all these.

Psalm 14:1; Fools say to themselves, there is no God.

We haven't yet gotten to the point of arguing whether there is or isn't a god.
Do you think when people say god that they just mean the Christian god and father of Yahshua?
My point was to show you that your god Yahweh is either a contradiction or just plainly doesn't exist.

If you quote the bible showing me where god said his thoughts are not like ours am not convinced because I can point you to scriptures that show that yahweh thinks like a man.

When he created man and iniquity was so high in the world, he regretted creating man meaning that he wasnt wise with his decision in creating man. That doesn't sound so wise and high above human thoughts. It sound so human.

When Yahweh was provoked and wanted to clear all the Israelites for worshipping a golden calf, Moses talked him out of him and gave him reasons that he couldn't see on why he should spare the Israelites. He thought like a man there , as a matter of fact he thought like a man that wasn't wiser than Moses.

When the Israelites were in the wilderness and Yahweh was faced with an option of taking 2 paths, he chose one path because he wanted to avoid the iron chariots of the Assyrians.

Yahweh is a jealous god. Jealous when he doesn't get adulation and praise, that sounds very human and petty.

The same Yahweh made a plan for a law to obeyed forever but he eventually changed his mind and scrapped the covenant[ even though Jews greatly resist that ] and brought a new one. That sounds fickle and very human.

The worst is that yahweh bragged in the book of job about creating the sun and setting it on its course like a champion running from one end of the sky to another end. The sun doesn't move, we move round it with 9 other planets. If Yahweh was anything close to a sky god he would have known that instead of setting his religion up for future contradiction.

With all this, it's clear that yahweh doesn't exist .

LiberaDeus:


We haven't yet gotten to the point of arguing whether there is or isn't a god.
Do you think when people say god that they just mean the Christian god and father of Yahshua?
My point was to show you that your god Yahweh is either a contradiction or just plainly doesn't exist.

If you quote the bible showing me where god said his thoughts are not like ours am not convinced because I can point you to scriptures that show that yahweh thinks like a man.

When he created man and iniquity was so high in the world, he regretted creating man meaning that he wasnt wise with his decision in creating man. That doesn't sound so wise and high above human thoughts. It sound so human.

When Yahweh was provoked and wanted to clear all the Israelites for worshipping a golden calf, Moses talked him out of him and gave him reasons that he couldn't see on why he should spare the Israelites. He thought like a man there , as a matter of fact he thought like a man that wasn't wiser than Moses.

When the Israelites were in the wilderness and Yahweh was faced with an option of taking 2 paths, he chose one path because he wanted to avoid the iron chariots of the Assyrians.

Yahweh is a jealous god. Jealous when he doesn't get adulation and praise, that sounds very human and petty.

The same Yahweh made a plan for a law to obeyed forever but he eventually changed his mind and scrapped the covenant[ even though Jews greatly resist that ] and brought a new one. That sounds fickle and very human.

The worst is that yahweh bragged in the book of job about creating the sun and setting it on its course like a champion running from one end of the sky to another end. The sun doesn't move, we move round it with 9 other planets. If Yahweh was anything close to a sky god he would have known that instead of setting his religion up for future contradiction.

With all this, it's clear that yahweh doesn't exist .

reading your post i could'nt help laughing, what ignorance, you are so wrong, i dont even know where to start the correction, well like i said before, i wont argue with you, like you saw the topic, the message is for heavenly minded christians, one reason people choose not to believe in God's existence is because they cant seem to accept the reality that their is judgement after a life of sinful pleasure

God have said that to them that deligently seek him with their whole heart, they shall find him, i bet you hav'nt really desires to know if he exist, you are just blinded with ignorance, brother before death comes knocking, seek God, you shall surely find him, and follow him. It pays

Suspect33:
reading your post i could'nt help laughing, what ignorance, you are so wrong, i dont even know where to start the correction, well like i said before, i wont argue with you, like you saw the topic, the message is for heavenly minded christians, one reason people choose not to believe in God's existence is because they cant seem to accept the reality that their is judgement after a life of sinful pleasure

God have said that to them that deligently seek him with their whole heart, they shall find him, i bet you hav'nt really desires to know if he exist, you are just blinded with ignorance, brother before death comes knocking, seek God, you shall surely find him, and follow him. It pays

You said you are not here to argue with me and my post is very laughable. Please prove to me that I am wrong with what I posted. I would like to be proven wrong in those examples.

My brother I have tasted your religion and i am sure I know more about Christianity and the bible more than you do. I have read the bible so many times I can't count, I know church history like the back of my hand and I have tasted the other side of being free from religion. So I am guessing who is ignorant , I have seen both sides and what I can tell you is that you are living in a mental prison that you happen to love because you think it is better than what is outside it.

Death has been coming ever since, am sure you think your great great grand father is burning in hell. If you can still be sane thinking of all the people before you that didn't here your gospel that should be in hell and all those that exist now that will never hear the gospel message and should go to hell[ according to your gospel] , if you can actually remain sane after that then I can only leave you to tour delusion. So much for the love of god.