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Brexit And Trump Have Exposed The Left Crucial Flaw: Playing By The Rules by ValerianSteel(m): 11:48pm On Nov 20, 2016
........A prime example is unfolding right now. The final tallies of the election show that Hillary Clinton won at least a million more votes than Donald Trump. Oh well, shrug most Democrats: the electoral college is the system we have and, under those rules, we lost. True. But just imagine if Trump had won the popular vote by a seven-figure margin, only to be denied the presidency in the electoral college. Do we think he would have been a good sport and accepted it?

Happily, we don’t have to imagine. We can look at the tweets he posted in 2012, [/b]when he briefly thought Mitt Romney had garnered more votes than Barack Obama. “This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!” he said. He called for people to take to the streets and stage a “revolution”. As he put it, “phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one[/b] [sic]!”


We can laugh at the inconsistency, but the contrast is striking. Democrats grumble but abide by the rules; Republicans immediately dial up the rhetoric and denounce their opponents as illegitimate, eventually paralysing their ability to act. That was the admitted strategy of congressional Republicans in the first Obama term: a determined effort to prevent him governing at all.



Democrats don’t play that game. Obama constantly strove to be “bipartisan”, even appointing Republicans to key jobs. (The FBI director, James Comey, was a Republican appointee, yet Obama renewed his term – with fateful consequences. A Republican president would not have hesitated to install his own man.)

Again and again, one side bows to the rules and to what’s fair – while the other focuses on the ruthless exercise of power. We’re seeing it now, as Trump stacks his team with a bunch of bigots. I know which approach is the more high-minded and public spirited. But the result is that today, in both Britain and America, the right has power and next to nothing standing in its way. No one wants the left to behave like the right – but it’s time we fought just as hard.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/19/brexit-trump-left-crucial-flaw-leavers-alt-right-ruthlessness

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Re: Brexit And Trump Have Exposed The Left Crucial Flaw: Playing By The Rules by DozieInc(m): 2:08am On Nov 21, 2016
American politics sef, the electoral college is the decider of the winner of the elections, of what use is the popular votes in the presidential elections.
Re: Brexit And Trump Have Exposed The Left Crucial Flaw: Playing By The Rules by Blue3k(m): 3:33am On Nov 21, 2016
DozieInc:
American politics sef, the electoral college is the decider of the winner of the elections, of what use is the popular votes in the presidential elections.

Its never been used or mattered. It just used to gauge politicians mandate or how country feels. It wasn't even counted til 1800's.
Re: Brexit And Trump Have Exposed The Left Crucial Flaw: Playing By The Rules by Nobody: 3:17am On Nov 28, 2016
If Trump had lost the EC but won the popular vote, I can bet with all my belongings that the Electoral College would have been repealed out of existence from the constitution within one year.

The Republican Congress and a majority of state legislatures -- which are Republican-controlled -- would have taken up the task as an emergency.

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Re: Brexit And Trump Have Exposed The Left Crucial Flaw: Playing By The Rules by 4Play(m): 9:16pm On Nov 29, 2016
ValerianSteel:


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/19/brexit-trump-left-crucial-flaw-leavers-alt-right-ruthlessness

I think this is really clutching at straws. No doubt Trump is a major league hypocrite who, had the outcome been the reverse re the EC/PV split, would have been screaming blue murder. However, in practice, it would not serve Clinton or the Democrats well to embark on histrionics regarding this.

As far as Democrats playing by the rules, there are plenty of Bernie Sanders supporters who will beg to differ.

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