Hi guys.
Please, i need your advice.
I have been invited for Canadian and Australian PR. I am really confused as to which to pick.

I am an IT guy(Java, Web, ASP, C#, Android). I have eyes for Toronto or Melbourne. Married to a Pharmacist (female o) with one kid.

I have researched my eyes out and read everything there is to read. I still can't decide. I think I am even more confused.

I don't think I can afford to apply for both of them now (Buhari has not been nice ).

For those that have done this before, what is your opinion.

BTW, I'm not afraid of cold weather, so its not really a factor against Canada.

Thanks

MaY God make a way / open door 4 U. Wish u aall d best/visa favour.aabeg let me knw wen u dey go canada,I wan send eko to my sugar mum vickyrotex .tenk u

eleko1:
MaY God make a way / open door 4 U. Wish u aall d best/visa favour.aabeg let me knw wen u dey go canada,I wan send eko to my sugar mum Big Aunty vickyrotex .tenk u

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ylinkz2020:
Hi guys.
Please, i need your advice.
I have been invited for Canadian and Australian PR. I am really confused as to which to pick.

I am an IT guy(Java, Web, ASP, C#, Android). I have eyes for Toronto or Melbourne. Married to a Pharmacist (female o) with one kid.

I have researched my eyes out and read everything there is to read. I still can't decide. I think I am even more confused.

I don't think I can afford to apply for both of them now (Buhari has not been nice ).

For those that have done this before, what is your opinion.

BTW, I'm not afraid of cold weather, so its not really a factor against Canada.

Thanks

Which one is "Female o"? Everyone knows a Pharmacist can be a Female.

It's like a lady saying, "I'm married to a Nurse (Male o)"

Anyways, you can check out these threads.

https://www.nairaland.com/3315266/travelling-canada-part-11 (Canada)

https://www.nairaland.com/3053069/general-guide-australian-permanent-resident/106 (Australia)

VickyRotex,
Thanks, but those threads just talk about the application process. It's not helping me decide

Australia for my money.

*Better and stronger Economy
*Higher salaries but higher cost of living
*Better social support system
*Better standard of living.


The only aspect Canada wins Australia is that Canada is more multicultural and immigrant-friendly. Also the US is just at the backyard.


In general you will make more money in Australia.

Australia for You and Your wife and Child is the best

I have never been to Aus, but the 2 naijas i have met in Canada that relocated from Aus to Canada with their family (as they couldnt get Aus PR) both say Aussie is far better than Canada (pay, efficiency, social benefit, infrastructure). They also said they would return in a heartbeat if they get Aus PR. That's is their opinion though. One even said they give 5k dollars to parents of new born babies. This i still find hard to believe sha.

Left to me..the cold is enough to swing me to australia.....when the cold starts in Nov(double digit below zero, and its gonna be here till april (6month). Except you can live in expensive vancouver which has UK type of weather. Lol

ylinkz2020:
Hi guys.
Please, i need your advice.
I have been invited for Canadian and Australian PR. I am really confused as to which to pick.

I am an IT guy(Java, Web, ASP, C#, Android). I have eyes for Toronto or Melbourne. Married to a Pharmacist (female o) with one kid.

I have researched my eyes out and read everything there is to read. I still can't decide. I think I am even more confused.

I don't think I can afford to apply for both of them now (Buhari has not been nice ).

For those that have done this before, what is your opinion.

BTW, I'm not afraid of cold weather, so its not really a factor against Canada.

Thanks

Bros go where you mind tells you...nobody helped you decide to apply for the two countries PR and i am sure you must have weighed a lot of things before applying...as for people who told you about making more money in one country then i must tell you that Nigeria is far better in terms of making money cos you pay no tax...and you have luxury of being noticed with your chicken change in naija...Pay,efficiency,social benefits,infrastructures are all the same in this two countries...both economy are good...medical is superb in Canada,child benefit support is superb in Canada same as Aussie...difference is Canada is cold Aussie is hot with snakes and kangaroo,Canada has warm from nearby US while Aussie is point of no return...Canada is multi-culturally diverse without racial discrimination..Aussie got that in excess...Canada has more countries to visit visa free as a Canadian passport holder more than Aussie..cost of living in both is high ...but in all naija still better pass o o cos even oyibo go hail you for street when you cross cotonou buy one small tokumbo car..and for naija you can pose for shoprite with the bread you went there to buy and people go snap you pixure post for linda ikeji..owambe dey naija e no reach Aussie and Canada...effizy dey naija wella bros...so compare and contrast

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Bros go where you mind tells you...nobody helped you decide to apply for the two countries PR and i am sure you must have weighed a lot of things before applying...as for people who told you about making more money in one country then i must tell you that Nigeria is far better in terms of making money cos you pay no tax...and you have luxury of being noticed with your chicken change in naija...Pay,efficiency,social benefits,infrastructures are all the same in this two countries...both economy are good...medical is superb in Canada,child benefit support is superb in Canada same as Aussie...difference is Canada is cold Aussie is hot with snakes and kangaroo,Canada has warm from nearby US while Aussie is point of no return...Canada is multi-culturally diverse without racial discrimination..Aussie got that in excess...Canada has more countries to visit visa free as a Canadian passport holder more than Aussie..cost of living in both is high ...but in all naija still better pass o o cos even oyibo go hail you for street when you cross cotonou buy one small tokumbo car..and for naija you can pose for shoprite with the bread you went there to buy and people go snap you pixure post for linda ikeji..owambe dey naija e no reach Aussie and Canada...effizy dey naija wella bros...so compare and contrast[/quote]

ylinkz2020:
VickyRotex,
Thanks, but those threads just talk about the application process. It's not helping me decide

No one can help you decide Bro. I only directed you to those threads so you can ask questions and then weigh your options.

You're the one.that really knows what you're looking out for.

There's a popular saying in Yoruba that says "Oun to ko waju senikan, eyin lo ko selomiran" (What seems good for one, may not seem good for another)

Different opinions will come up, but in the end youve got to decide.

And just like the picture I attached earlier on.
Will attach it again. Along the line, you know what exactly you want.

All the best with making a decision.

shinarambo1:
I have never been to Aus, but the 2 naijas i have met in Canada that relocated from Aus to Canada with their family (as they couldnt get Aus PR) both say Aussie is far better than Canada (pay, efficiency, social benefit, infrastructure). They also said they would return in a heartbeat if they get Aus PR. That's is their opinion though. One even said they give 5k dollars to parents of new born babies. This i still find hard to believe sha.

Left to me..the cold is enough to swing me to australia.....when the cold starts in Nov(double digit below zero, and its gonna be here till april (6month). Except you can live in expensive vancouver which has UK type of weather. Lol

lol! People think it's weird when I say I love Winter. But really, I love it! And I've seen people who Prefer Winter to Summer aswel.

Though it gets tiring at some point.

What city do you live in?

gentleiphy:


Bros go where you mind tells you...nobody helped you decide to apply for the two countries PR and i am sure you must have weighed a lot of things before applying...as for people who told you about making more money in one country then i must tell you that Nigeria is far better in terms of making money cos you pay no tax...and you have luxury of being noticed with your chicken change in naija...Pay,efficiency,social benefits,infrastructures are all the same in this two countries...both economy are good...medical is superb in Canada,child benefit support is superb in Canada same as Aussie...difference is Canada is cold Aussie is hot with snakes and kangaroo,Canada has warm from nearby US while Aussie is point of no return...Canada is multi-culturally diverse without racial discrimination..Aussie got that in excess...Canada has more countries to visit visa free as a Canadian passport holder more than Aussie..cost of living in both is high ...but in all naija still better pass o o cos even oyibo go hail you for street when you cross cotonou buy one small tokumbo car..and for naija you can pose for shoprite with the bread you went there to buy and people go snap you pixure post for linda ikeji..owambe dey naija e no reach Aussie and Canada...effizy dey naija wella bros...so compare and contrast

lmaoooo!!! Owambe ov laive

Gbam! You nailed it!

I have friends who relocated from Australia to Canada and complaining about the racial discrimination in Australia. Don't know how true it is. But I never knew it's that severe. Would love to visit Australia some day though.

People find it difficult to believe when I say I've never experienced racism here. I'm not disputing the fact that there are racists, (I know friends who have experienced it before) but it's rare or maybe because I dont just seem to send anyone.

Also, I believe the diversity in culture, makes it hard to be a racist here, because before you even insult another person's race, another person go don look you insult your own race aswel.


Besides, we forget that we sef get our own for body even for the same Naija, Tribalism is like water. So why question racism? e.g. Nairaland Cyberwar.

I was shocked today when I went to OnlinePunch to read a news and I saw comments by different "e-terrorists" insulting each others tribes. I thought it only existed on Nairaland/Facebook.

Abi is it the fights between people of same race, different countries we wanna talk about. eg. Nigeria and Kenya"
Like the saying, "Quench tribalism first, before condemning racism"

Also, we always tend to ignore the good part. There are really nice people here.

It's here I realised that if someone offers to go to a mall for you or assist you in a way that seems so weird and inconviniencing to them, don't be skeptical about them. "Most" of them have no intentions to harm you. They're just being extremely nice.
(Unlike in Naija that you'll be suspecting a person for being extremely nice. Chai I love Naija )

It's here I learnt the courtsey of holding the door for a person behind you, even if they're quite some inches away. It was one of my cultural shock.


People smile Alot here. When your eyes meets another person's eyes. You just smile for no reason. That also was a cultural shock. Although, behind some of those smiling faces, there are some depressed hearts. (Especially in Winter).

And they really like to talk alot with you, especially the Older ones. Cos Most of them are lonely.



I admit that in all, it can never be like Naija. Chaiii. I used to tell People that, people here can never survive what we, Nigerians have survived and still surviving.
Even when things gets hard, we still shrug it off, and hope for a better tomorrow. Even when we go to bed on an empty stomach in Naija, we still wake up the next day, with hope to find bread to eat.
But here, people commit suicide sere sere. Read the notes some of them leave behind, and the reasons will amaze you.

I love Naija. E go better! E gats better!

Ajo Oda bi Ile!

Going to Canada gives you more options in life than Australia because Canada is next door to the US. Both countries are good and offer some of the best quality of life for their citizens. But having access to the US market also increases your chances of landing a good job. At the end of the day, being self-sufficient and making is what should drive your decision.

maternal:
Going to Canada gives you more options in life than Australia because Canada is next door to the US. Both countries are good and offer some of the best quality of life for their citizens. But having access to the US market also increases your chances of landing a good job. At the end of the day, being self-sufficient and making is what should drive your decision.

I don't understand what you mean by the bolded.. Can you expantiate more? How does " having access to US market" first of all what type of market are you referring to? And how does the market increase his chances of landing a job

VickyRotex:


lol! People think it's weird when I say I love Winter. But really, I love it! And I've seen people who Prefer Winter to Summer aswel.

Though it gets tiring at some point.

What city do you live in?

My permanent home is in calgary, but currently based in sask for work. I am currently in weyburn, just about 2hours drive from North Dakota. Would be in calgary for christmas with the family then move to regina from january to april. Dreading the winter and everything it brings along...icy road, cold, costly bills, shorter days e.t.c, and its not funny working in -30 degrees outside in mid winter for 2 straight consecutive weeks.lol. I miss working in calgary. winter in calgary is still mild cos of the chinook.
For some friends in the construction industry, they are basically out of jobs during winter months. I am grateful for what i have.

With op's skills..he would easily get a job in his field in any of the country he decides to move to since he is in a non-regulated profession, but he would have to consider his wife's career. Pharmacy is tough to break into in canada for foreign trained pharmacist; he would be better off if he compares the level of ease/difficulty of australia with that of Canada.

shinarambo1:

My permanent home is in calgary, but currently based in sask for work. I am currently in weyburn, just about 2hours drive from North Dakota. Would be in calgary for christmas with the family then move to regina from january to april. Dreading the winter and everything it brings along...icy road, cold, costly bills, shorter days e.t.c, and its not funny working in -30 degrees outside in mid winter for 2 straight consecutive weeks.lol. I miss working in calgary. winter in calgary is still mild cos of the chinook.
For some friends in the construction industry, they are basically out of jobs during winter months. I am grateful for what i have.

With op's skills..he would easily get a job in his field in any of the country he decides to move to since he is in a non-regulated profession, but he would have to consider his wife's career. Pharmacy is tough to break into in canada for foreign trained pharmacist; he would be better off if he compares the level of ease/difficulty of australia with that of Canada.

Oh wow! I can't imagine. Yea, most people are out of jobs in winter. Especially in that field, and other fields that entails being outside for a while.

But the good side is, most of those jobs are more expensive in winter, so it sure pays.

I already told Op, he's the only that knows what he's looking for. He has to weigh his options strictly.

Definitely true, Pharmacy is tough to break in, just like nursing. She'll need to do some exams, be a part of the regulatory bodies, (CPhA/NAPRA) and even stay for while before practising.

I had a friend who went through all of this and had to move back to UK to practise.

In all, I do wish him the best in making a decision.

And I wish you, best of Luck with the winter.

Bandeco:

I don't understand what you mean by the bolded.. Can you expantiate more? How does " having access to US market" first of all what type of market are you referring to? And how does the market increase his chances of landing a job

No disrespect, but I don't feel you know enough about this topic to be giving him advice. At least not regarding Canada. Canadian citizens can legally work in the US if given a job offer through the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). I have a lot of friends who had issues finding a job in Canada, looked to the states, and got hired by an American company. All they have to do is show up at the border with the job letter offer and a working visa will be given to them. Of course the US gov't will have to make sure no American can or is willing to do the job. The US also like Canadians (they view Canadians as Americans) and recognize their education and work experience. Having access to the worlds biggest economy is huge. I don't even think Australia's economy is bigger than Canada's. New York, California, Florida, etc is filled with Canadians.

As for both economies, both Canada and Australia have an unemployment rate of around 6 percent give or take. And for Canada's sake, this is due to the sluggish oil prices. But if or when it picks up like in the past, who has a better economy wouldn't be a discussion. Canada has the world's richest middle class,due to a sound trickle down economic plan, and was ranked 2nd in the world only behind Finland as having the best quality of life according to the social progress index. That's 2 spots ahead of Australia with 16 million or so more people. Lastly, while both Canada and Australia have similar social support system such as universal healthcare, the province of Ontario (where this man will be) will be paying for individuals children who come from a household income of 80k or less, University/College tuition. Other provinces are looking to follow suit. Saving the money you'd spent sending your child to University is huge. And I've heard goods costs more in Australia.

I love Australia don't get me wrong. I see it as a warmer Canada and both countries are great. They stand for certain things I feel the US doesn't. But if this man wants to migrate for economic prosperity, which is why we left naija to begin with, I'd come to Canada. Because like I said, having access to the US market is huge. Plus North America seems more lively, and you're a few hours away from Europe.

https://www.google.ca/amp/globalnews.ca/news/2801864/canadians-quality-of-life-ranks-2nd-globally-according-to-2016-social-progress-index/amp/

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/696626?keywords=wealthiest-middle-class&year=2015&month=10&date=16&id=696626&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Features&oref=www.google.ca

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/free-tuition-but-for-whom-charting-ontario-students-fiscallandscape/article28925277/?service=mobile

Op if your primary objective is to make more money will advice you to go for Australia, Australia economy is the only economy that hasn't experience recession in the last 25years and their PR processing is easier and faster than that of Canada, with Australian PR you can work in any part of the world, just that the place is far and less naija community.

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This is a decision only you can make. YOU will need to figure out which one of those two countries will work out for your family. You would get many people's opinion here but you need to remember that NOT ALL SIZE FITS ALL. Go back to your drawing board and ask yourself why you chose these two countries in the first place.

I already live in one of those countries and I have always said that Canada and Australia are the only two countries I can comfortably live in.

Good luck

Either way both are amazing countries. Can't go wrong with either one. Many would love to have this issue.

Following closely

@Bandeco: Please tell me more about the social support system

@VickyRotex: Which city/province do you live in?

VickyRotex:


Which one is "Female o"? Everyone knows a Pharmacist can be a Female.

It's like a lady saying, "I'm married to a Nurse (Male o)"

Anyways, you can check out these threads.

https://www.nairaland.com/3315266/travelling-canada-part-11 (Canada)

https://www.nairaland.com/3053069/general-guide-australian-permanent-resident/106 (Australia)

I'm guessing when he emphasized the female, he was implying he isn't married to a guy. You can never tell in this age of bobrisky, cait and the likes.

maternal:


No disrespect, but I don't feel you know enough about this topic to be giving him advice. At least not regarding Canada.

Saying you don't feel I know enough to offer an opinion is perhaps condescending. More so when I merely asked for clarification on your earlier post. It is a DISRESPECT. It is disrespect on peoples differing opinion to yours.

maternal:

Canadian citizens can legally work in the US if given a job offer through the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). I have a lot of friends who had issues finding a job in Canada, looked to the states, and got hired by an American company. All they have to do is show up at the border with the job letter offer and a working visa will be given to them. Of course the US gov't will have to make sure no American can or is willing to do the job.

This is not a valid point. Why?
* The OP is not a Canadian citizen (yet). Canadian PR do not have access to the US labor market.
*The OP got no job offer yet much less of a job offer through the NAFTA. Even at this, do you know of the Bureaucracy involved in this process?

I thought perhaps you would espouse a similarity with the freedom of movement enjoyed by EU members state, where members state can just move regardless whether they have a job yet or not, regardless whether any local can/willing to do the job.

You know what? . Australia and New Zealand enjoy a better working relationship(Similarly to the EU) with each other than Canada and USA. Citizens or PR residents from either country can move freely to the opposite direction without notice to seek employment

maternal:

The US also like Canadians (they view Canadians as Americans) and recognize their education and work experience. Having access to the worlds biggest economy is huge. I don't even think Australia's economy is bigger than Canada's. New York, California, Florida, etc is filled with Canadians.

The access is very restricted. You don't want to make it look as if they can just move freely. Do you?
Some facts for your perusal. Canadian nominal Gdp - $1.7 trillion. Canadian population- 35million. Canadian Gdp per capita - $43k

Australian nominal Gdp - $1.5trillion. Australian population - 24million. Australia gdp per capita - $56k

The minimum wage in Australia is what Canadians can only dream of

maternal:

As for both economies, both Canada and Australia have an unemployment rate of around 6 percent give or take. And for Canada's sake, this is due to the sluggish oil prices. But if or when it picks up like in the past, who has a better economy wouldn't be a discussion.

Wrong wrong.... Canadian unemployement rate as of June this year was 7pc as against 6 percent in Australia in the same period.

During the period when oil prices were healthy the Australian economy still clearly outperforms Canada's. Even now that the "mining boom" is declining in Australia partly due to slow economic growth in China, Australian economy still surges on. It maintained 3pc growth last year to the chagrin of everybody.

This is an economy (Australia's) that has experienced growth for more than two decades now uninterrupted.

Really I am surprised you had to compare the two economy. More so suggest that Canada has the edge. Is this dishonesty or lack of information.

maternal:

Canada has the world's richest middle class,due to a sound trickle down economic plan, and was ranked 2nd in the world only behind Finland as having the best quality of life according to the social progress index. That's 2 spots ahead of Australia with 16 million or so more people.

You no what?, over 1million Australians are millionaires

Australia is at the apex of the OECD - better life index
Australia is second only to Norway in the United nations human development index.

maternal:

Lastly, while both Canada and Australia have similar social support system such as universal healthcare, the province of Ontario (where this man will be) will be paying for individuals children who come from a household income of 80k or less, University/College tuition. Other provinces are looking to follow suit. Saving the money you'd spent sending your child to University is huge. And I've heard goods costs more in Australia.

Both has universal health care coverage. Australia wins when it comes to unemployment support. You are guaranteed the basics of comfortable living(houses, food, clothing out of work benefits etc) regardless whether you are working or not and regardless of the state you reside. This cannot be said of Canada. The social safety net is stronger in Aussie.

Yeah.. Cost of living is higher in Australia but salaries are also higher in Australia and taxes are quite lower. So at the end of the day, you get more disposable in income.

maternal:

I love Australia don't get me wrong. I see it as a warmer Canada and both countries are great. They stand for certain things I feel the US doesn't.

I Love Canada too. I see it as a very liberal, multicultural and accommodating very cold version of Australia

maternal:

But if this man wants to migrate for economic prosperity, which is why we left naija to begin with, I'd come to Canada. Because like I said, having access to the US market is huge. Plus North America seems more lively, and you're a few hours away from Europe.

No. I'd come to Australia. It will be an easy choice.
Salaries are higher in Australia yet taxes are lower. Going out of employment you will not find yourself under the bridge in Australia.

Americans are trooping in Australia in droves to enjoy the higher wages (especially In lower skilled professions) and to enjoy the social benefits system that is lacking in America.

I don't believe Canada is more lively than Australia. All round climate ensures outdoorsy activities. The beaches in Australia is simply breathtaking.

Bandeco cool down. I apologized to the man already. Again both places are amazing to live in and I'd live in either one. No need to get personal, but I'll address your rant small. I simply can't address everything.

1. I'm sure OP plans to get citizenship eventually, hence opening him to both markets. Bureaucracy ? You get a job offer, flash your Canadian passport at the border with proof of the job offer, and you're on your way. I've done it before. I have many Canadian friends who are now living/working in the states. Some even got citizenship. Famous Canadians (Drake,Bieber, C.Dion,etc) go to work in the states all the time. You're a Canadian citizen with no criminal record, you get a job offer, that US work visa is yours period. Our military, financial institution,etc work with each other across the boarders all the time. Plus several states economy alone is twice the size of Australia's/New Zealand economies combined. Like a California for example. I'd rather just wait to get Canadian citizenship and test my luck in Canada or the US. And Canadians and Americans can visit each others country visa free for up to 6 months.

2. The average salary in Canada is above 43k per year. Perhaps you should show where your getting these facts. But like everyone knows, it's not always about how much you make, it's your cost of living that makes the difference and if your country has a good trickle down economic plan. Either way Canada does have the world's wealthiest middle class.

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/696626?keywords=wealthiest-middle-class&year=2015&month=10&date=16&id=696626&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Features&oref=www.google.ca

3. Unemployment rate here is usually record based of facts which don't always tell the true story. Such as how many people eligible for EI (Employment insurance) who are on it divided by the population eligible for it. Some thing of that nature. But the thing is a lot of the whites here are lazy. I've seen people who worked in the oil patch and was making 40 an hour, turn down a 20-25 dollar an hour job because they refused to work for less than 40. They're technically unemployed though due to their choice but they're not really. During the oil boom when oil prices were 100 USD per barrel you had Americans jumping the board coming up here to work. I landed a 6 figure job within a week. Everyone knows not much economies were as healthy as Canada's during that time. Even with oil at 46 USD or so per barrel I'm still pulling 6 figures easily. You make it seem like Australia's economy is immune to what's happening in the world today. This uninterrupted economic growth, are we talking about McDonald's having job openings, or good well paying jobs with benefits ? Because young graduates in Australia are complaining about lack of jobs, just like everywhere around the world. But where else can they go ? New Zealand ? I'd rather the US, bigger market.

http://theconversation.com/graduating-into-a-weak-job-market-why-so-many-grads-cant-find-work-45222

3. You know what ? Over 1.1 million Canadians are millionaires. If you add the tax cheats who go to the Caribbean islands to hide their money to avoid paying taxes, the famous Canadians who claim US residents to avoid being taxed twice in the US and Canada, that number would be much higher. And 25 thousand of them become millionaires just last year. And we're talking US dollars not Australian dollars. Besides what does that prove ? Is OP a millionaire ? And Canada is ranked 2nd to quality of life.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/credit-suisse-wealth-millionaires-1.3867306

https://www.google.ca/amp/globalnews.ca/news/2801864/canadians-quality-of-life-ranks-2nd-globally-according-to-2016-social-progress-index/amp/

4. Better safety net ? I know a Yoruba girl from Lagos. She has 3 kids by 3 different fathers and they all left her. This woman has not worked in a decade. For all her 3 kids, due to her lack of income, or no income I should say, she's getting free housing. She got free daycare, free healthcare coverage, and free prescription drugs and dental care since she's low income. She also gets welfare cheques and baby bonus cheques each month (govt gives you money for having a baby). And at the end of the year, due to her being low income, she can write off any tax she paid during the year and get a full refund from the government. And just recently parliament concluded internet and cell phone services are essential services which the poor need. So yes, you guessed it, she'll be getting that for free if she isn't already. And last year the province of Ontario said any household where the or both parents are making 50k or less per year, the government will pay for their university. And yes again you guessed right, her kids will be going to university for free. If Australia offers better please let me know so I can tell this woman so she can leave here and go leach off you guys.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/free-tuition-but-for-whom-charting-ontario-students-fiscallandscape/article28925277/?service=mobile

5. I'm pretty sure Federal taxes are similar in Australia. But provincial or sales taxes differ in each province. In Alberta it's only 5 percent sales tax. And after making 6 figures last year, I wrote off a lot of things, plus I have a child. The gov't paid me back 10k. That's after making 6 figures. If you live within your means and have a good accountant to help you with your taxes, you can have good disposable income here. Besides where would one go with that ? New Zealand ? Over lets says Miami ?

6. Most Americans don't have passports and a lot have never left the US, let alone be able to travel all the way to Australia. They're very ignorant bunch down there and their middle class is in rough shape. I suspect those coming to Australia are the elites or upper middle class. Either way, you don't want them there believe me. They'll attempt to turn that place into one of their states. But Canada and Australia have similar social benefits. So what's the point of that statement ?

7. The city OP is thinking off going too is ranked as the best place to live in the world by economists. And the weather situation is overrated. OP already said he doesn't care about the cold, and Canadians here actually like the cold and don't care about the outdoorsy stuff. It's actually like 7 degrees now in Toronto and it'll be around that temperature throughout the week. The whites are already complaining because they want the weather to go really below 0 and for snow to fall so they can go skiing. Not to mention we get 6 months of amazing weather to do all that stuff per year. Plus Florida, Texas, the Caribbean islands, etc are 2-3 hour plane ride. In North America we have options. And theirs no fear of a spider filled with poison biting us in our homes.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1802235/toronto-ranked-as-best-place-to-live-in-the-world-by-the-economist/


Again both countries are amazing, lets leave it at that. I also plan to visit Australia one day. I heard Canadians need a visa is that true ? At times I envy the warm weather during our cold winter months, can't lie.

The OP who is already confused will be even "confuserrrrrr" after reading the responses on this thread.

If you are a Canadian citizen @maternal and want to visit Australia, I think you would only need to apply for ETA


@op like the "longer" throat we(Nigerians) all are just go for the two EOD

I am enjoying this. Please keep it coming

40manlappy:
I am enjoying this. Please keep it coming

Me too

OP, I was in the same shoe like you about two years ago. I applied, paid for and got both the Australia PR and Canadian PR. My own take s that the choice depends on you entirely. You would find it easier to integrate into Canadian system than the Australian because of certain similarities between Nigeria and Canada.
1. You would find it much more easier to drive in Canada than in Aussie. Believe me driving a car in the western world is so critical to survival and to getting certain key jobs. Australia uses right hand driving while Canada uses what we have in Nigeria. I was able to start driving comfortable in Canada barely a week after arriving Canada. You would have to learn driving again in aussie.
2. You should also look at where you have people that can give you soft landing and put you through the system as this is always critical for a new immigrant.
3. Australia has an excellent weather and Canada for me feels like living in a deep freezer virtually all year round.
4. Canadian system have many provincial regulations and just by moving from one province to another you have to start redoing things from the scratch again. Each has its own pros and cons but whatever you choose you will keep day dreaming about the other and wondering if the grass at the other side is not greener. . Anyway, i choose Canada in my case and still wonder in my moments if Aussie would not have been better option but only God Knows.

WellEndowed:
The OP who is already confused will be even "confuserrrrrr" after reading the responses on this thread.

If you are a Canadian citizen @maternal and want to visit Australia, I think you would only need to apply for ETA


@op like the "longer" throat we(Nigerians) all are just go for the two EOD

As if you know!!
I don tire!!

Canada looks okay. Especially with the proximity with the rest of the world and USA. Especially if one is business inclined.
But with Trump at the helm, who know what the next 4 years will look like, knowing that the canadian economy is very dependent on exports to USA

gogochocolate:
Each has its own pros and cons but whatever you choose you will keep day dreaming about the other and wondering of the grass at the other side is not greener. haha. Anyway, i choose Canada in my case and still wonder in my moments if Aussie would not have been better.

This, exactly, is what I DO NOT want. lol

But you have both Visas. why didn't you try going to Aussie for some months too?