ever811:
cahii....drink a cup of water rest for 5 minutes then read this you comments again.

I think you should save it and show your pastor since your brain is with him.

AkinPhysicist:

And you are not comprehending my post. Read again - I said as much.






Quite simple. The lack of empirical evidence for God's existence is compelling enough. Wrong. Nature serves as evidence of evolution.







No child is born believing in God. Hence non-belief is the natural state of humans. Its quite simple. No need to complicate the issue.

see as ebuka just use ur brain dey suck garri for here. smh

Vick4rill:
see as ebuka just use ur brain dey suck garri for here. smh

For a moment I thought you were gonna add something substantial to the debate

ifenes:


You mean you see your shadow in the mirror when you look at it? Don't quote me if cannot read what I said properly before misquoting me.

The man in the mirror is the reflection of the man looking into the mirror. That is exactly what I said. Move away!

So what you mean is that your reflection in the mirror is yourself? No problem you are this technically daft to assume that you are not different from what is in the mirror? Continue.

rhektor:


So what you mean is that your reflection in the mirror is yourself? No problem you are this technically daft to assume that you are not different from what is in the mirror? Continue.

Ignore my comments if you have nothing to say. I need bright minds to talk to.

ifenes:


Ignore my comments if you have nothing to say. I need bright minds to talk to.

If what you call bright minds are those who accept whatever you say without raising opinions hence you should stick to those set of dumies, I forgot one will never be a part of it

MrMontella:

go check the piraha people...and come and tell me if they revere any creator God.

They still believe in deities and spirits - so they are not atheists .

ifenes:


The man in the mirror is not different from the man looking into the mirror. God cannot be different to the reflections. If Human's are it's reflection,humans are God looking at itself in a hall of mirror,having infinite reflections.

As for reincarnation,which is an illusion of Time. Time doesn't exist,which means everything is happening simultaneously,according to Einstein. But reincarnation is just like Motion and Time, they are not real but makes you experience different Nows in different time. This is advance metaphysics.

Everyone is I and you know you are You. If you die now,other people are born and they are all You. Cycle of life which never ends.

Can you provide a link where I can really understand your position . It seems nebulous

KingEbukasBlog:


They still believe in deities and spirits - so they are not atheists .

spirits not deities

rhektor:


If what you call bright minds are those who accept whatever you say without raising opinions hence you should stick to those set of dumies, I forgot one will never be a part of it

You quoted me, I didn't quote you, I never engaged you in any discussion have I ? You need to ignore me..... I don't think that should be hard for you

ifenes:


You quoted me, I didn't quote you, I never engaged you in any discussion have I ? You need to ignore me..... I don't think that should be hard for you

You would have ignored me in the first place but now you can't just wield the big stick and think you'll go free

KingEbukasBlog:


Can you provide a link where I can really understand your position . It seems nebulous

Depending on the level of education and self education, these stuff should come naturally. Not through links brother. Those are other people's work.

rhektor:


You would have ignored me in the first place but now you can't just wield the big stick and think you'll go free

That is me being polite. I wouldn't engage a narrow mind in certain discussions .It will be arrogant of me to say you don't sound intelligent enough. An early indoctrinated mind at best.

ever811:
I have come across this comment made by African atheist several times..../ the white man sold lies to you by giving you religion which claim there is a creator (God) of all things and you accepted it. they even accused the believers for not having sense of reasoning. but this same white man brought education to them which also claim there is no creator (God) they accept it and claim they have brain. and i Wonder where there brain is located.if the white man has given you reasons trough scientific findings that there is no God..which by instincts, your ancestors never accepted. and the same white man gave me the bible to understand better what my ancestors already knew by instincts there are gods which of this two shows the presence of sense of reasoning? our ancestors already knew there is the supernatural even before the coming of the white mans religion..they never accepted to be dependent on there brains,but instincts showed them the presence of the supernatural.that is why they had different traditional gods.everything an atheist claim to know about the non existance of God comes from the same white man he accuses the African religious man of learning from. religious text's were written thousands of years before the first foolish man who will letter spread atheist ignorance came to exist. the bible has its first verse ..Gen 1:1..in the begin God created the heaven and the earth.. note:-(God is the course) because he is an external force as it is..but no atheist texts has ever started with the beginning of creations.. they must prove its non inspirational.. by talking a lot of nonsense b/4 they jump to the middle were matter and energy created all things. the same set of creatures would agreed to the law of course and effect but there brains will reformat within a second and they will come up with another theory that matter and energy defile the law of course and effect.I still ask there brain location.. ..hypocrisy... hypocrisy.. and need of brain cleanser..

Ignoring the annoying clerical errors strewn in your piece, i begin to wonder now, how you possibly can make a logical sense, not to talk of intelligent discuss, out of this your puerile gist.

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheism has never been a natural state in humans - this explains its extreme low retention rate .

Wrong, ignorance and mischief induced assertion from you.

Atheism is both implicit and explicit concept.

No human is born with any form of beliefs system, beliefs system is acquired (including God idea, in this instance), via immediate and extended environmental input.

Because a child is born without a God idea, a child is said to be an atheist implicitly.

KingEbukasBlog:

God created man with the propensity to seek knowledge of Him .

Natural and normal human brains can by its anatomy and physiology, process any information made available to it.

Take every information about God idea away from a baby, the baby will never develop such propensity.

akintom:


Wrong, ignorance and mischief induced assertion from you.

Atheism is both implicit and explicit concept.

No human is born with any form of beliefs system, beliefs system is acquired (including God idea, in this instance), via immediate and extended environmental input.

Because a child is born without a God idea, a child is said to be an atheist implicitly.

Natural and normal human brains can by its anatomy and physiology, process any information made available to it.

Take every information about God idea away from a baby, the baby will never develop such propensity.

Implicit and explicit atheism were just coined by atheist George H. Smith . Smith's views on implicit atheism are regarded as deceptive .


Here are the critics' views on implicit atheism you should cogitate on

1. Graham Lawton in the New Scientist , a science magazine said :

"Atheism is psychologically impossible because of the way humans think... They point to studies showing, for example, that even people who claim to be committed atheists tacitly hold religious beliefs, such as the existence of an immortal soul."

2. Pascal Boyer, in the British science journal Nature said : "A slew of cognitive traits predisposes us to faith."

All these are congruous with the bible's position that God ingrained the desire for man to seek knowledge of Him .

3. Dr. Joel McDurmon of American Vision wrote about a University of York study involving magnetism and brain function , he said :

"This has to be embarrassing . . . if you’re an atheist. A new study performed at the University of York used targeted magnetism to shut down part of the brain. The result: belief in God disappeared among more than 30 percent of participants. That in itself may not seem so embarrassing, but consider that the specific part of the brain they frazzled was the posterior medial frontal cortex—the part associated with detecting and solving problems, i.e., reasoning and logic. In other words, when you shut down the part of the brain most associated with logic and reasoning, greater levels of atheism result."

4. Ernest Nagel contradicts Smith's definition of atheism as merely "absence of theism", acknowledging only explicit atheism as qualifying for the label "atheism":

"I shall understand by "atheism" a critique and a denial of the major claims of all varieties of theism... atheism is not to be identified with sheer unbelief... Thus, a child who has received no religious instruction and has never heard about God, is not an atheist – for he is not denying any theistic claims. Similarly in the case of an adult who, if he has withdrawn from the faith of his father without reflection or because of frank indifference to any theological issue, is also not an atheist – for such an adult is not challenging theism and not professing any views on the subject"

Please when you are reading trash on the internet especially Wikipedia , also pay attention to what critics say not just to rush to gorge on whatever information without being incisive simply because it supports your views as an atheist .

Atheism has never been and will never be a natural state in humans , it will always be what it truly is , a transitive state .

KingEbukasBlog:

Implicit and explicit atheism were just coined by atheist George H. Smith . Smith's views on implicit atheism are regarded as deceptive .

I guess you reading the word "deceptive" in the criticism of the Smith's concept, by other folks gave you some gloating blues.

You're simply ignorant of the scientific culture. Whatever theory or concept a scientist comes up with, that same scientists and others start the process of falsifying the discovery. It's normal science tradition.

This is how science has been able to gradually improve our world. Making it better by the day.

KingEbukasBlog:

Here are the critics' views on implicit atheism you should cogitate on

1. Graham Lawton in the New Scientist , a science magazine said :

"Atheism is psychologically impossible because of the way humans think... They point to studies showing, for example, that even people who claim to be committed atheists tacitly hold religious beliefs, such as the existence of an immortal soul."

This has to do with the variant nature, of different concepts of atheism. It has nothing to do with your erroneous assertion.

KingEbukasBlog:

2. Pascal Boyer, in the British science journal Nature said : "A slew of cognitive traits predisposes us to faith."

All these are congruous with the bible's position that God ingrained the desire for man to seek knowledge of Him .

You will have to go learn about faith that is based on religious beliefs and faith based on empirical facts.

Development of faith (complete trust or confidence in someone or something),is a natural mental function.

I can explicitly change my faith whenever the basis, on which i initially formed the faith becomes invalid.

Your God didn't ingrain naada. Your creationist disposition is derailing you.

KingEbukasBlog:

3. Dr. Joel McDurmon of American Vision wrote about a University of York study involving magnetism and brain function , he said :

"This has to be embarrassing . . . if you’re an atheist. A new study performed at the University of York used targeted magnetism to shut down part of the brain. The result: belief in God disappeared among more than 30 percent of participants. That in itself may not seem so embarrassing, but consider that the specific part of the brain they frazzled was the posterior medial frontal cortex—the part associated with detecting and solving problems, i.e., reasoning and logic. In other words, when you shut down the part of the brain most associated with logic and reasoning, greater levels of atheism result."

what a foolish and puerile deduction. In the first place, the study is pseudo idiocy from religious junky.

If anyone ever lost ability to believe anything, that he earlier believed, it means the memory section of the brain has been altered.

If you have shut ability to remember or recollect in a man, what do you expect? This has nothing to do with atheism. Any folk will lost any prior beliefs held, when the memory section is altered.

This useless experiment. Even you, if i electrically alter your memory, you will become an empty dude as far as any belief is concerned. Then You will have to relearn your God idea all over again.

KingEbukasBlog:

4. Ernest Nagel contradicts Smith's definition of atheism as merely "absence of theism", acknowledging only explicit atheism as qualifying for the label "atheism":

"I shall understand by "atheism" a critique and a denial of the major claims of all varieties of theism... atheism is not to be identified with sheer unbelief... Thus, a child who has received no religious instruction and has never heard about God, is not an atheist – for he is not denying any theistic claims. Similarly in the case of an adult who, if he has withdrawn from the faith of his father without reflection or because of frank indifference to any theological issue, is also not an atheist – for such an adult is not challenging theism and not professing any views on the subject"

There are different concepts of atheism, he's saying nothing. Since atheism is evolving, the concepts will continually get refined.

KingEbukasBlog:

Please when you are reading trash on the internet especially Wikipedia , also pay attention to what critics say not just to rush to gorge on whatever information without being incisive simply because it supports your views as an atheist

You're simply speaking from the deepest depth of your abysmal ignorance of my mental and intelligent capacity.

You lack the possible ability to read and understand scientific works, not to talk of your ability to make intelligent deductions from them.

KingEbukasBlog:

Atheism has never been and will never be a natural state in humans , it will always be what it truly is , a transitive state

You're simply bereft of the conceptual evolvement of atheism.

KingEbukasBlog:

cc : Naijadeyhia , felixomor , promise10

One thousand of your likes, can't match me on the topic of atheism and inherent idiocy in religious beliefs.

akintom:

I guess you reading the word "deceptive" in the criticism of the Smith's concept, by other folks gave you some gloating blues.

You're simply ignorant of the scientific culture. Whatever theory or concept a scientist comes up with, that same scientists and others start the process of falsifying the discovery. It's normal science tradition.

This is how science has been able to gradually improve our world. Making it better by the day.




This has to do with the variant nature, of different concepts of atheism. It has nothing to do with your erroneous assertion.



You will have to go learn about faith that is based on religious beliefs and faith based on empirical facts.

Development of faith (complete trust or confidence in someone or something),is a natural mental function.

I can explicitly change my faith whenever the basis, on which i initially formed the faith becomes invalid.

Your God didn't ingrain naada. Your creationist disposition is derailing you.




what a foolish and puerile deduction. In the first place, the study is pseudo idiocy from religious junky.

If anyone ever lost ability to believe anything, that he earlier believed, it means the memory section of the brain has been altered.

If you have shut ability to remember or recollect in a man, what do you expect? This has nothing to do with atheism. Any folk will lost any prior beliefs held, when the memory section is altered.

This useless experiment. Even you, if i electrically alter your memory, you will become an empty dude as far as any belief is concerned. Then You will have to relearn your God idea all over again.



There are different concepts of atheism, he's saying nothing. Since atheism is evolving, the concepts will continually get refined.





You're simply speaking from the deepest depth of your abysmal ignorance of my mental and intelligent capacity.

You lack the possible ability to read and understand scientific works, not to talk of your ability to make intelligent deductions from them.


You're simply bereft of the conceptual evolvement of atheism.



One thousand of your likes, can't match me on the topic of atheism and inherent idiocy in religious beliefs.

You do realise that you just responded to ebuka and still did not make 1 single point. smh

naijadeyhia:



You do realise that you just responded to ebuka and still did not make 1 single point. smh

I already established that, both of you are being wagoned by speaking donkey.

akintom:


I already established that, both of you are being wagoned by speaking donkey.

Again nothing intelligent said.

Vitriol----------------10/10

Intelligent comment ---------------0/10

IQ according to his other 2 destroyed threads ----------- negative 0/10

naijadeyhia:


Again nothing intelligent said.

Vitriol----------------10/10

Intelligent comment ---------------0/10

IQ according to his other 2 destroyed threads ----------- negative 0/10

Lol the dude does not know that different parts of the brain have different functions . But its fun leaving some people to wallow in ignorance

I strongly doubt he understands the difference between magniloquence and grandiloquence .

ifenes:


That is me being polite. I wouldn't engage a narrow mind in certain discussions .It will be arrogant of me to say you don't sound intelligent enough. An early indoctrinated mind at best.

It's OK, doctored mind

Religion is not based on reason but faith. If it were then all religious people will be atheists instead. It takes a certain degree of suspension of reason to believe for example in a talking donkey. Even a greater degree of suspension of logic to believe that 2 loaves of bread and 5 fish can be multiplied by prayer to feed thousands of people. To accept religious claims you have to mentally disregard the immutable laws of nature. This is why MOST of the world's great thinkers and scientists shun religion and embrace agnoticism or atheism.

AkinPhysicist:
Religion is not based on reason but faith. If it were then all religious people will be atheists instead. It takes a certain degree of suspension of reason to believe for example in a talking donkey. Even a greater degree of suspension of logic to believe that 2 loaves of bread and 5 fish can be multiplied by prayer to feed thousands of people. To accept religious claims you have to mentally disregard the immutable laws of nature. This is why MOST of the world's great thinkers and scientists shun religion and embrace agnoticism or atheism.

I acknowledge your submission.

This is the fact that theists, especially on NL find VERY difficult to accept.

Religious folks don't have stand points, when it comes to the subject matter of reason and empiricism.

rhektor:


It's OK, doctored mind

It's normal when you are in the land of the blind. The reason why some people only understand parables. They still don't understand the parables. Instead people like you worship the messanger and totally ignore the message.

Indoctrinated mind.

ifenes:


Depending on the level of education and self education, these stuff should come naturally. Not through links brother. Those are other people's work.

I have been trying to open a thread for a while now so we can discuss, I'm not sure why I keep getting an error message

naijadeyhia:


Again nothing intelligent said.

Vitriol----------------10/10

Intelligent comment ---------------0/10

IQ according to his other 2 destroyed threads ----------- negative 0/10

Coward you attention is needed here..

https://www.nairaland.com/3487438/investigations-into-damoguls-claim-raising

ifenes:


It's normal when you are in the land of the blind. The reason why some people only understand parables. They still don't understand the parables. Instead people like you worship the messanger and totally ignore the message.

Indoctrinated mind.

Like seriously you now taking this personal, what has worship got to do with this?
Doctored mind

akintom:


I acknowledge your submission.

This is the fact that theists, especially on NL find VERY difficult to accept.

Religious folks don't have stand points, when it comes to the subject matter of reason and empiricism.

Indeed. Unfortunately for them, their refusal to accept reality does not change reality one bit.

Cloudgoddes
I see you

AkinPhysicist:
Religion is not based on reason but faith. If it were then all religious people will be atheists instead. It takes a certain degree of suspension of reason to believe for example in a talking donkey. Even a greater degree of suspension of logic to believe that 2 loaves of bread and 5 fish can be multiplied by prayer to feed thousands of people. To accept religious claims you have to mentally disregard the immutable laws of nature. This is why MOST of the world's great thinkers and scientists shun religion and embrace agnoticism or atheism.

There are atheists in Religion , and there are Believers that are irreligious

The Greatest minds in the world have been theists and deists

This has been discussed ad nauseum .

Atheism is based on blind faith . Studies have revealed atheism has deleterious effects on the brain .

AkinPhysicist:


Indeed. Unfortunately for them, their refusal to accept reality does not change reality one bit.

I think AkinPhysicist and Akintom are the same person .