MrPresident1:


There are no new souls and there are no new incarnations. Everything on earth at this moment has been here before. The Bible is very clear on that.

In the beginning God created everything.

The population 10,000years ago or 40,000years ago may actually have been more than 7 billion. Nothing is new. Civilizations and knowledge much greater than what we have in this present epoch that we are in may have existed far far far into the past.

But there was a starting point right ? And population at that point started growing rapidly , right ? We didn't just have myriads of people at the same time . It started as a small population before what we have now or then or whenever .

I'm not disputing the fact that souls were created at the beginning , all I'm saying is all those souls didn't incarnate at the same thing at first .

Ubenedictus:
this is where i say bye bye, have a nice day. i dont have time for long arguements. it is appoint unto man once to die and after dat come judgement. when dat simply principle is thrown out d window, off i go.

Fare thee well jare

Jesus will come on or before the 20th of January 2017. Do not go back to sleep, you have been woken up.

Remain sober and watch carefully

MrPresident1:


John 9:1-3
And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

The disciples asked Jesus, Master who sinned, this man or parents?

Now what kind of question is this when they all knew that the man was born blind? An intriguing question. Then Jesus says neither this man nor his parents sinned.

The question is what is the reference time for this sin that is being pushed around by Jesus and his disciples? In this present life in which he was born blind, or in a past life hence his reincarnation to face judgment?

Deep thinker you are but I disagree on the issue of blind Bartimaeus. Why do I query such view of yours? It is because once Jesus speaks openly it is easy to understand except the time he spoke in proverb. In the case of this blind man, the miracle was meant to glorify God through JESUS, which was what he meant as the blind 38 years man was born blind at birth. And I want to emphasize here that not all the parts of the scripture are written in parables but as simple as stated in the Bible. And it has nothing to do with reincarnation.

Olu317:
Deep thinker you are but I disagree on the issue of blind Bartimaeus. Why do I query such view of yours? It is because once Jesus speaks openly it is easy to understand except the time he spoke in proverb. In the case of this blind man, the miracle was meant to glorify God through JESUS, which was what he meant as the blind 38 years man was born blind at birth. And I want to emphasize here that not all the parts of the scripture are written in parables but as simple as stated in the Bible. And it has nothing to do with reincarnation.

Do you believe in reincarnation, is reincarnation in the Bible?

MrPresident1:


Do you believe in reincarnation, is reincarnation in the Bible?

Yoruba believe in reincarnation. And I am a lion heart Yoruba whose ORIKI is Babatunde. However, the Bible which is my leeway to understanding many perspectives of life made reference to it in few verses. Having opined this, I hold the belief reincarnation do take place on rare occasion upon the decision of the maker of heaven and earth whom the Yoruba calls Olorun/EledumareEledua/Elemi/Asheda/Akoda whom the Bible refers to as Jehovah/Elshadai/Elohim. Based on self study on the Bible, it did happened to Elijah/Elias known as John the Baptist in the days of Jesus Christ. And Jesus made a categorical statement on him as being referred to him as JOHN THE BAPTIST. Although, reincarnation can be something of an attribute seen in human beings as being similar between the previous personality and the assumed reincarnated person, such as myself, being a personal self study Case, according to my paternal grandmother . But in the case of Elias/Elijah,he didn't DIE but ascended unto heaven in a chariot of fire. And when he returned to the earth according to Jesus proclamation on him as John the Baptist, he was beheaded by Herod. That's the difference between the Bible's perspective on this sensitive issue. Still, I can be informed if there are many other personalities in the Bible. Kindly inform me because I had studied few chapters of the Bible

Olu317:
Yoruba believe in reincarnation. And I am a lion heart Yoruba whose ORIKI is Babatunde. However, the Bible which is my leeway to understanding many perspectives of life made reference to it in few verses.

Please give examples of these few verses

Olu317:

Having opined this, I hold the belief reincarnation do take place on rare occasion upon the decision of the maker of heaven and earth whom the Yoruba calls Olorun/EledumareEledua/Elemi/Asheda/Akoda whom the Bible refers to as Jehovah/Elshadai/Elohim. Based on self study on the Bible, it did happened to Elijah/Elias known as John the Baptist in the days of Jesus Christ. And Jesus made a categorical statement on him as being referred to him as JOHN THE BAPTIST.

There is nothing new under the sun. The implication is that all the souls that are presently on the earth have been here before. Reincarnation is not rare, it is general and applies to everyone, and it is ongoing.

Olu317:

Although, reincarnation can be something of an attribute seen in human beings as being similar between the previous personality and the assumed reincarnated person, such as myself, being a personal self study Case, according to my paternal grandmother . But in the case of Elias/Elijah,he didn't DIE but ascended unto heaven in a chariot of fire. And when he returned to the earth according to Jesus proclamation on him as John the Baptist, he was beheaded by Herod. That's the difference between the Bible's perspective on this sensitive issue. Still, I can be informed if there are many other personalities in the Bible. Kindly inform me because I had studied few chapters of the Bible

Everyone reincarnates.

MrPresident1:


Please give examples of these few verses



There is nothing new under the sun. The implication is that all the souls that are presently on the earth have been here before. Reincarnation is not rare, it is general and applies to everyone, and it is ongoing.



Everyone reincarnates.

Hebrew 11:13-16,John 14:2, Malachi 3:1,the lord saying, he will send a messenger before him,who will come, Luke 1:13,17 ,refer to John the Baptist, Mark 9:13, on the transfiguration, while talking with his beloved discipline, appeared, three legendary late prophets,Mark 17:12-13 outrightly mentioning John the Baptist as Elijah and the forerunner of Jesus Christ's coming.

MrPresident1:


Please give examples of these few verses



There is nothing new under the sun. The implication is that all the souls that are presently on the earth have been here before. Reincarnation is not rare, it is general and applies to everyone, and it is ongoing.



Everyone reincarnates.

There are things that will new on earth. King Solomon spoke according to the understanding God gave him. Human beings under the authority of Jesus Christ have more understanding than the days of King Solomon.

Olu317:
Hebrew 11:13-16,John 14:2, Malachi 3:1,the lord saying, he will send a messenger before him,who will come, Luke 1:13,17 ,refer to John the Baptist, Mark 9:13, on the transfiguration, while talking with his beloved discipline, appeared, three legendary late prophets,Mark 17:12-13 outrightly mentioning John the Baptist as Elijah and the forerunner of Jesus Christ's coming.

Do you believe in the Bible?

He is coming, he is almost here, on or before the 20th of January 2017, watch the heavens closely, watch the sun, the moon, and the stars, watch them closely, do not miss any of the signs that they are giving.

Watch for the clouds of heaven, because it is therein that the Son of man will descend, in poeer and great glory

MrPresident1:


Do you believe in the Bible?

You are quite funny with such an embarrassing question. My previous answer ought to have shown you my strength on my stance on the Bible. I gave you instances where reincarnation was made manifest but not as all human beings are reincarnated. There is no controversies on my path on the Bible but you have issue with the Bible, because you quote the Bible out of context. My own almighty God is Jesus Christ. That should seal the answer to your question. My question for you is, who is your own God?

MrPresident1:
He is coming, he is almost here, on or before the 20th of January 2017, watch the heavens closely, watch the sun, the moon, and the stars, watch them closely, do not miss any of the signs that they are giving.

Watch for the clouds of heaven, because it is therein that the Son of man will descend, in poeer and great glory

Dont deceive anyone. Nothing will happen on the date you chose as a day of rapture. Stop disgracing my FAITH in the eyes of ATHEIST that are rational thinkers like myself but saw the power of almighty God made manifest in my own life. If you don't know how they feel, you can't win them to your fold. If you haven't smoked “weed" before, you can't advise better on it.

MrPresident1:

Do you believe in the Bible?

This question is not for me

Chai... This coming year go sweet

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Olu317:
You are quite funny with such an embarrassing question. My previous answer ought to have shown you my strength on my stance on the Bible. I gave you instances where reincarnation was made manifest but not as all human beings are reincarnated. There is no controversies on my path on the Bible but you have issue with the Bible, because you quote the Bible out of context. My own almighty God is Jesus Christ. That should seal the answer to your question. My question for you is, who is your own God?

Let us continue to wait for him, OUR MIGHTY GOD AND SAVIOUR, THE GREAT AND CONQUERING LION OF JUDAH.

LET US CONTINUE TO WATCH AND WAIT FOR HIM

Olu317:
Dont deceive anyone. Nothing will happen on the date you chose as a day of rapture. Stop disgracing my FAITH in the eyes of ATHEIST that are rational thinkers like myself but saw the power of almighty God made manifest in my own life. If you don't know how they feel, you can't win them to your fold. If you haven't smoked “weed" before, you can't advise better on it.

LET US CONTINUE TO WATCH AND WAIT FOR OUR BLESSED MASTER

All Israel will be saved

Psalm 137:8-9
8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Olu317:
This question is not for me

YEAH, IT SURELY IS NOT FOR YOU .

I CAN SEE THAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE COMING OF OUR BLESSED GOD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL SOON ARRIVE IN THE GLORIOUS CLOUDS OF HEAVEN, OH GLORIOUS CLOUDS, BEAUTIFUL LOFTY CLOUDS .

I AM NOW SO CONVINCED THAT YOU ARE VERY EXPECTANT OF HIS GLORIOUS COMING. O MY BROTHER, HOW GLORIOUS THAT DAY WILL BE FOR ALL OF US WHO HAVE BEEN SO PATIENTLY EXPECTANT

JUST WAIT A BIT MORE MY BROTHER , JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE HE IS COMING

Isaiah 63:3
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

SirWere:
Chai... This coming year go sweet

You know what SirWere,you are so correct . Many people are waiting for the re-opening of MMM, some others like your good self and Hahn are waiting to pounce on me to tear me to pieces for a 'fake' prophecy , then a few of us (I hope I am wrong, and that it is actually many of us) are expecting the coming of Jesus latest in the opening parts of 2017.

You are right SirWere my brother, and you know what, since many people are now so expectant and eager for 2017, the days will hasten up for all of us!

SirWere, the days will now hasten up

In ancient Israel, we are already in sabbath.

MrPresident1:


YEAH, IT SURELY IS NOT FOR YOU .

I CAN SEE THAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE COMING OF OUR BLESSED GOD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST WHO WILL SOON ARRIVE IN THE GLORIOUS CLOUDS OF HEAVEN, OH GLORIOUS CLOUDS, BEAUTIFUL LOFTY CLOUDS .

I AM NOW SO CONVINCED THAT YOU ARE VERY EXPECTANT OF HIS GLORIOUS COMING. O MY BROTHER, HOW GLORIOUS THAT DAY WILL BE FOR ALL OF US WHO HAVE BEEN SO PATIENTLY EXPECTANT

JUST WAIT A BIT MORE MY BROTHER , JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE HE IS COMING

Isaiah 63:3
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

Jesus can't and will not come on the date you mentioned. You even make sense you as an anti Christ. He who understand the scripture knows the difference between the knowledge of the simple and wise. Where are the signs Jesus mentioned in the scripture?, don't come near me because you will be thrown into the depths of sea knowledge. You are not a child of God. Case closed.

MrPresident1:


You know what SirWere,you are so correct . Many people are waiting for the re-opening of MMM, some others like your good self and Hahn are waiting to pounce on me to tear me to pieces for a 'fake' prophecy , then a few of us (I hope I am wrong, and that it is actually many of us) are expecting the coming of Jesus latest in the opening parts of 2017.

You are right SirWere my brother, and you know what, since many people are now so expectant and eager for 2017, the days will hasten up for all of us!

SirWere, the days will now hasten up

Very well, seeing that the end is coming in Jan 21 as you claim; could you kindly transfer all your cash to my account??
We skeptics are still gonna be on earth, I fear...

And no doubt, high end graphic games will come potraying the event.

I want to play them...

So kindly transfer

Olu317:
Jesus can't and will not come on the date you mentioned. You even make sense you as an anti Christ. He who understand the scripture knows the difference between the knowledge of the simple and wise. Where are the signs Jesus mentioned in the scripture?, don't come near me because you will be thrown into the depths of sea knowledge. You are not a child of God. Case closed.

Calm down e be like say una blood dey hot .

Why not wait until Jan 21 before condemning MrPresident1

SirWere:


Very well, seeing that the end is coming in Jan 21 as you claim; could you kindly transfer all your cash to my account??
We skeptics are still gonna be on earth, I fear...

And no doubt, high end graphic games will come potraying the event.

I want to play them...

So kindly transfer

You know SirWere, you are the third person that has asked me to transfer my cash to them. First was CHARLOE, second is that our indefatigably cantankerous brother Hahn, and now thirdly you. So I will use the same line of argumemt that I used to slay both of them on you too

OK bro, so what are you willing to give in exchange?

Psalm 137:7
Remember, O Lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

Olu317:
Jesus can't and will not come on the date you mentioned. You even make sense you as an anti Christ. He who understand the scripture knows the difference between the knowledge of the simple and wise. Where are the signs Jesus mentioned in the scripture?, don't come near me because you will be thrown into the depths of sea knowledge. You are not a child of God. Case closed.

My brother I did not mention any day na I only said on or before 20th of January 2017

My brother my brother , my very good brother

My brother we are both expecting the coming of Christ in the lofty beautiful clouds of heaven, aren't we?

SirWere:

Calm down e be like say una blood dey hot .

Why not wait until Jan 21 before condemning MrPresident1

His blood is hotting him too much

Olu317:
Jesus can't and will not come on the date you mentioned. You even make sense you as an anti Christ. He who understand the scripture knows the difference between the knowledge of the simple and wise. Where are the signs Jesus mentioned in the scripture?, don't come near me because you will be thrown into the depths of sea knowledge. You are not a child of God. Case closed.

Hebrew 10:37
For, "In just a little while, he who is coming will come and will not delay." This is something said by the writer of HEBREW to keep the people focusing on Christianity religion. And that's exactly what Mrpresident1 is doing here and it's okay as well as religion is concerned. Mrpresident1 I'm feeling you. Keep up the good work.

According to the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH, Pol did similar thing to keep people worshipping Faulkin(Jesus of the Neanderthal) and this thing is necessary to fulfil divine prophecies until year 2625 and beyond when the people would say it is enough. See what Pol said in those days according to the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH.
Karmish 18: 16- 39

16. Now Narro called Pol to himself and said, you know the law, O Pol. For you were before a lawyer yourself before you turned yourself into a fanatic of this religion.
17. Now O Pol, cease from this noise which you make or else I shall set my face upon your religion and wreck it to the ground.
18. And Pol prided himself, saying, the light of God Almighty had said that this religion shall survive for up to two millenniums until the time of enlightenment shall come.
19. And Narro was amazed at Pol, saying, did you say that it shall continue for two millenniums?
20. Why then do you preach, saying, the world shall come to an end very soon? Why do you put the hearts of the people in jeopardy?
21. And you even went about to say that you shall be alive and a trumpet shall sound and you shall be caught up without wings to the sky to meet your god.
22. Is this not a lie?
23. And Pol said, I do not consider religious lies as a lie at all. For if it makes the homos live a good life on earth, then it is not bad.
24. For in telling the homos that the world will be destroyed very soon, they shall live righteously and do good to others.
25. And Narro said, why can you not just say the truth and leave the people to follow it if they wish?
26. For by bringing the fear of a fire into their hearts, it shall even rob them of inner peace for the rest of their lives.
27. And they shall fear whenever they hear the sound of a trumpet, saying, it is time of the end. And rumours of wars which they hear shall also make some of them die already, saying, it is the end of the world.
28. And even when wars are being fought in places far away from them, they shall fear and die in their spirit for fear already.
29. And when diseases and earthquakes strikes as it has ever been happening since time immemorial, they shall run helterskelter in fright, saying, it is the end of the world.
30. And they shall not be able to think clearly from their own head, because of fear.
31. And many of them shall even become mad and they shall not know it. For already we have seen some who said that they shall not wear rings in their hands. And they say that all jewelries are forbidden.
32. And we have heard some who say that they shall tie clothes upon their heads into every place they shall go, because your doctrine did say that there are some angels looking at the hairs of the homofal.
33. And these people smell of great stench and they did not know it, because their perception has been blinded towards the care of the body.
34. And these people forbid even their children to do sports and exercises because you speak against them too.
35. Now O Pol, this is not the type of Roma we want. For we do encourage sports and exercises above even religion because he who does sports shall have no time rioting on behalf of a god.
36. And such one shall not hate, because sports and games bring unity among the people, but religion brings division.
37. Now Pol said, I shall see to this O Great emperor. But I do not know if I shall follow after your sayings.
38. And Narro said, it is a command, or else I shall focus on your religion and fight it with the last drop of my blood.
39. And Pol said, if you fight it and kill it, it shall rise again; for it is a thummim and no homo can stop it.

MrPresident1:


You know SirWere, you are the third person that has asked me to transfer my cash to them. First was CHARLOE, second is that our indefatigably cantankerous brother Hahn, and now thirdly you. So I will use the same line of argumemt that I used to slay both of them on you too

OK bro, so what are you willing to give in exchange?

Keep quiet o jare

hahn:


Keep quiet o jare

Ore mi ore mi, hahn hahn how was your day now?

MrPresident1:


His blood is hotting him too much

Mr President1, I am feeling your sarcasm. Paul and other disciples did more than this, even Faulkin(Jesus of the Neanderthal period) himself. He said that his generation will not pass away before he will return and he also said that he will come and take his disciples to heaven where he has gone to prepare a mansion for them. They waited and waited tire, saying , we shall not all die, but we shall be caught up in the air to meet Yeshua.

I am feeling you, CONTINU

The primary aim of this thread is to serve as a kind of electric shock mechanism to the soul that may want to drift off to sleep, so that anytime he sees this thread, he snaps back awake. So it is vitally important that this thread be on the religion section FP continuously until the time decreed, because just Like Moses' snake, when you see it you snap back to life, so also this thread too.

So this thread must always be on the front board.

For this reason, all kinds of comments from all kinds of people are welcome