Katsumoto:

I like your contribution but I don't know about sodje. I don't think we should use someone like him. Yobo does not appear to command the backline and he is supposed to be the most experienced defender we have. Plus he loses concentration at times. Maybe we should play shittu and adeleye together. Shittu was our best defender at the last nations cup. But I agree with you, yobo is messing up.

bro ask ppl who watched the three matches sodje played
u will be disappointed wit vice captain yobo
shittu is dwindling because of lack of club appearance,

I know Choch AMODU can do it .

I honestly dont understand all this talk of incompetence when it comes to Amodu. As rightly pointed out, Tunisia had a foreign manager. One with international perdigree at that, having managed portugal to the Euros in 2000, Morroco and South Korea. Kenya had a foreign coach and quite frankly played better football under the "local" coach in the retun leg than they did in the first leg with the foreign coach. Mozambique had a foreign coach and yet we beat all these teams to the sole WC ticket. What is wrong with Nigerians that we cannot appeciate a good thing if it comes wrapped in a black skin?

The qualification ticket owes as much to luck as it does to the detrmination and work of the coaching team. What happened to Tunisia's luck even after they played almost 9 minutes of injury time in Maputo according to the FIFA Live commentary stream on the day?

Let us face facts. Amodu may not be the most decorated person in world football but he has delivered the WC ticket (twice) and we have less than 9 months  to the start of the tournament. We better get our house in order rather than running around looking for a low-level white skinned coach to gift a free pass to the world cup.

I think Amodu should stay on as coach, we need continuity - how else would we learn and pass on the knowledge.
However, I recomend that we take on a football director, with years of international experience.
A good coach requires experience, we have always sacked our national coaches prematurely (, Apart from Westahoff).

NONSENSE, AMODU. AMODU. AMODU. HOW MANY TIMES DID I CALL YOU? YOU MUST NOT GO TO ANC LET ALONE W/CUP.

IT IS VERY CLEAR, AMODU IS ONE OF THE WORST COUCHES IN NIGERIA AND SHOULD NOT GO TO ANC OR W/CUP

Even in a paid employment,employees are given 6months porbational period.

For crying out loud,Amodu is being paid with tax payers money.
Lets probe him with Angola 2010 result,if he performs creditably well,
I mean performs well even if we do not get to the finals,let him go to SA.

Otherwise,if he give us the usual HBP and the usual "nigerians fans dont know the game",the type of
press statements acredited to him,and fail woefully in Angola,
he should be given a car,a house and cash gift and thanked for his contribution and fired.

Soccer loving nigerians deserve better.

Kick half measures out.
A coach dat goes into a game justifying a draw even b4 the commencement of the game
is only good for local show,not world cup proper.

[size=50pt]YES[/size]

let's stop deceiving ourselves; coaches don't play football - players do.

Amodu should go to SA2010 as head coach

I don't know if the question should be "Can He" or "Should He" . I'd prefer the later then proceed to say in my heart of hearts I do not think Amodu can lead these current SuperEagles team to SA 2010  ALONE for a number of reasons.

Amodu is in an unfortuate situation where most of our experienced players are in transition right now and there has n't been any real replacements for them. I think our greatest undoing as a nation is that we have no sustainable developmental football Programme to develop from under 16 uptill the senior level. So Amodu is clearly a victim poor planning or the lack of it by our football House.

The other issue is that I'm not certain this man has attended any top class training as coach before and seem to be learning his trade on the job (which is not very bad though) and can only perform to his best ability and becomes vulnerable when He is faced with some challenges He's not prepared for.

I also doubt that He is an assertive person or better put, I doubt if most of these current boys have any respect for him as a coach. I imagine Westerhof in his position.

Now, looking at the current preparation towards 2010 and the rough road to qualification. This man had all sort of problems with His team selection, e.g. aging players, players out of form, some with minimum playing time at their club and the "big boys" who must play because Amodu did not have the options that will gain the acceptance of his bosses at NFF or even the press that has forever been on His back.

This man has been under pressure from most Nigerians, the team didn't play well but did not lose  a game either as you can see from Sagamite and several others. My take therefore is that it is NOT morally right for us Nigerians to keep highlighting his weaknesses and not see his strength.

My recommendations:

1. Amodu should take us to the Nations Cup in Angola while we are dilligently looking for a coach with a track record at international level(not just club side but national assignment too) that can work with Amodu in the summer of 2010 at SA as a consulting coach. Part of Amodu's job will be to understudy that coach while part of the consulting coach's responsibility will be to ensure He studies our football and advise honestly(we should get our money's worth).

2. That they should draft some players from the under 20 side that went to Egypt into the Supereagles prior to the African Nations cup and let them compete for positions in all the department of the game

3. Amodu should be sponsored BY NFF between now and nation's cup to a few weeks clinic in in world class football coaching institute.

4. Nigerians and especially press men should learn to be patient with the man and also  Highlight [color=#990000][/color]His successes and strength while they criticise him.

5. Amodu should be allowed to make his team selection without interference from NFF or anybody in  government.

We will see how things start shaping-up after the nations cup but e no good to just dump Amodu like that , haba, He is a human being too na.

pie1ect:

I honestly dont understand all this talk of incompetence when it comes to Amodu. As rightly pointed out, Tunisia had a foreign manager. One with international perdigree at that, having managed portugal to the Euros in 2000, Morroco and South Korea. Kenya had a foreign coach and quite frankly played better football under the "local" coach in the retun leg than they did in the first leg with the foreign coach. Mozambique had a foreign coach and yet we beat all these teams to the sole WC ticket. What is wrong with Nigerians that we cannot appeciate a good thing if it comes wrapped in a black skin?

The qualification ticket owes as much to luck as it does to the detrmination and work of the coaching team. What happened to Tunisia's luck even after they played almost 9 minutes of injury time in Maputo according to the FIFA Live commentary stream on the day?

Let us face facts. Amodu may not be the most decorated person in world football but he has delivered the WC ticket (twice) and we have less than 9 months  to the start of the tournament. We better get our house in order rather than running around looking for a low-level white skinned coach to gift a free pass to the world cup.

I understand what you are trying to say but you forget about one thing - talent. Tunisia should not have been dragging qualification with us. If we had a better coach, we would have qualified after 3 matches (exaggeration).

Did Saudi Arabia not expect to win the WC in Korea because they employed Parriera who won the WC with Brazil in 94. Good coach plus good talent = success. Bad coach plus good talent = failure. Good coach plus no talent = failure. It doesn't matter whether Tunisia, Mozambique and Kenya had foreign coaches, the fact is that they do not have the players we are blessed with.

Another example, England under Capello compared with England under McLaren. Imagine what would happen at the WC when we play Brazil, Spain, Holland, Argentina ETC if we are struggling with Tunisia, the Mighty Kenya, and the destructive Mozambique (no disrespect meant).

One thing that cannot be gainsaid is that Coach Amodu has delivered more laurels to Nigeria than any Coach.
1. 2002 and 2010 w/cup ticket.
2. 2006 world beach soccer ticket
3. The youngest coach (29yrs)to win Mandela Cup for BCC in 1990 and got to the final the following  year with the same team.
We may label him incompetent , but he has won the w/cup tickects for  us twice, but my fear for the man, he may be replaced by an Oyinbo Coach.

Excuse me,  he struggled on both occassions, was it not the 2002 we had to bribe Ghana to "look the other way" and then we had a stronger team,  at the end he relied on the ability of the players

but when it got to the nitty gritty he failed woefully, Senegal for that matter he looked clueless


Now if he takes the Eagles to Angola (NATIONS CUP) with all eyes watching (with the world cup group s already done) if he fails, he gets the sack then we have 3 months to prepared and we dont want another Onigbinde debacle again,

Dereformer:

NONSENSE, AMODU. AMODU. AMODU. HOW MANY TIMES DID I CALL YOU? YOU MUST NOT GO TO ANC LET ALONE W/CUP.

IT IS VERY CLEAR, AMODU IS ONE OF THE WORST COUCHES IN NIGERIA AND SHOULD NOT GO TO ANC OR W/CUP

who tell u say amodu sabi browse hahahahaaa  

Katsumoto:

I understand what you are trying to say but you forget about one thing - talent. Tunisia should not have been dragging qualification with us. If we had a better coach, we would have qualified after 3 matches (exaggeration).

Did Saudi Arabia not expect to win the WC in Korea because they employed Parriera who won the WC with Brazil in 94. Good coach plus good talent = success. Bad coach plus good talent = failure. Good coach plus no talent = failure. It doesn't matter whether Tunisia, Mozambique and Kenya had foreign coaches, the fact is that they do not have the players we are blessed with.

Another example, England under Capello compared with England under McLaren. Imagine what would happen at the WC when we play Brazil, Spain, Holland, Argentina ETC if we are struggling with Tunisia, the Mighty Kenya, and the destructive Mozambique (no disrespect meant).

I beg to differ on the highlighted point. Greece won the Euros with no stand-out player. No "talented" player. I think in all of this, we are missing something. What is the objective? What are our goals at the world cup? We will obviously not play all of Brazil, Argentina, Holland and Spain at the WC.

We could even go to the WC and reach the semis without meeting anyone of those teams. By the way, Amodu's Nigeria will beat Maradona's Argentina on current form but I digress.

You mentioned Capello. Where do you intend to find a Capello-esque manager who will be willing to manage Nigeria? And what do you hope he will achieve in 8 month before the start of the WC?
Nigeria may not win the ANC but its not going to be because of Amodu. Its going to be a combination of:

  - Lack of proper planning by NFF;
  - Better-organised teams ahead of us currently aka CIV, Ghana, Egypt and Cameroun

We will not win the WC due to the same factors mentioned already even if we hired a Wenger/Ferguson combo.

please federal government and nff let amodu take us to the world cup for justice sake.

If NFF wants to sack Amodu, they should do it now, because after the nation cup it will be too late.
My take on Amodu is that, he is just depending on luck and sometimes players determination to win matches. it is very clear that we are struggling. We either sack Amodu or contimue struggling.

pie1ect:

I beg to differ on the highlighted point. Greece won the Euros with no stand-out player. No "talented" player. I think in all of this, we are missing something. What is the objective? What are our goals at the world cup? We will obviously not play all of Brazil, Argentina, Holland and Spain at the WC.

We could even go to the WC and reach the semis without meeting anyone of those teams. By the way, Amodu's Nigeria will beat Maradona's Argentina on current form but I digress.

You mentioned Capello. Where do you intend to find a Capello-esque manager who will be willing to manage Nigeria? And what do you hope he will achieve in 8 month before the start of the WC?
Nigeria may not win the ANC but its not going to be because of Amodu. Its going to be a combination of:

  - Lack of proper planning by NFF;
  - Better-organised teams ahead of us currently aka CIV, Ghana, Egypt and Cameroun

We will not win the WC due to the same factors mentioned already even if we hired a Wenger/Ferguson combo.

It seems that you equate just skills on the ball to talent. Greece did not have the ball skills of Brazil but they had organisation and coordination which still translates to talent. If Greece won the competition with their goal keeper under constant bombardment and the goal posts being hit considerably without the ball crossing the line, then we can say they were lucky but we know that was not the case because they had organisation at the back and counter-attacked with precision.

You can not say that a team that won the Euro's had no talent. We may not be able to get Cappello and his likes but there are still many technically better coaches than Amodu.

NFF has contacted guus hiddink since russia failed to qualify to the mundial.trappatoni the coach of ireland is also interested

[color=#990000]i see no reason why people should start talking about world cup when the nations cup is less than two months,as far as im concerned the outcome of nations cup will determine how well we'll go in world cup.after all Amodu Shuaib has done,it will be unfair to him not to take us to Nations cup and from their we'll know if he's capable of taking us to the mundial [/color]

Amodus fine. I however have little faith in this team. If you saw that Kenyan game. we were lucky to have a ref on our side and thank God for Mozambique too.

Our second goal was a clear offside. Kenya was also denied a very clear penalty. So lets stop lying to ourselves.
I frankly have very little faith in the current team.

AMODU's contribution to our performing well @ the ANC/SA 2010 is closer to like 10%.

For us to perform well @ these tourneys, the following has to happen

1.) Joseph Yobo, Seyi Olofinjana & Taiye Taiwo need to pick a serious injuries in december that'll lay them off for like 8 months.

2.) The NFF should get their acts ryte & put in place proper arrangements for prepping for these tourneys, esp Grade A friendlies with the likes of Brazil, England, Netherlands, Germany, Argentina, Spain.

3.) Beijing 2008 & Egypt 2009 team players should be given a fair chance to fight for shirts.

If we can do these, then we can go have some fun @ these tourneys.


Finally Amodu should know that anything short of Victory (anyhow, all we need is the cup) in Angola is bye byes for his sorry black ass.

It seems that you equate just skills on the ball to talent. Greece did not have the ball skills of Brazil but they had organisation and coordination which still translates to talent. If Greece won the competition with their goal keeper under constant bombardment and the goal posts being hit considerably without the ball crossing the line, then we can say they were lucky but we know that was not the case because they had organisation at the back and counter-attacked with precision.

Greece were disciplince, their concentration level was bang on and they had a very good coach in Otto Rehalger who the German FA still regret not given him the top job, he was tactically sound,  Amodu would be in the job only because some officials want to embezzle funds,

UNA WANT AMODU 2 GO SA 2010 DEN DASH 3 POINTS 2 ALL OUR OPPONENTS 4 1ST STAGE?CHIE NA WA OH.
ITS SIMPLE HE CANT GO ANY WHERE WITH THOSE BOYS,SHE SHOULD BE REPLACED OR D WORLD CUP WILL BE A TOTAL DISASTER.

fellow Nairalander.I have been following the debate about Amodu no doubt he is a lucky coach,but that is where it all ends.The super eagle under Amodu is nothing but a rag tag sort of team,no clear direction.I am very sure that most of you can recollect the way the super eagles played at the USA 94 against the Bulgaria,the Argentina and the Italian of this world,even if England the acclaim home of modern football can buried their pride and look for foreign coach to salvage their football then there is no reason Nigeria

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this thread is annoying me so much


cant blieve yall are disscussing this



this isnt rockect science abi!! nonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnesensssssssssssse

amodu should go

white man takin over kini nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

a local must take over!!! ?siasia u decide

enouff said

angrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry

Hello everyone in the house, to me AMODU is not the best man for the AFCON job not even to talk about MUNDIAL cup, because we qualify out of shear luck, or it has been destined for us to qualify, this is a man , that always sat down on the bench no matter the situation or how thence a match is, a good coach should always be passionate, sensitive, to the situation on the pitch, most especially, such a person must be able to read a match, and be a good tactisian. Thus, he lack all this quality as a good coach.Most especially, their are some players he suppose to have do away with them yet he keep on stick to them as if they have paid him  to be calling them to play, players like Seyi Olofinjanan, John utaka, Kanu nwako, even Yobo , to me they  don't have any bizness with the national team again, but this man still use them often.
We suppose to have a fomidable team, selected from , partly, beijing olympic boys, and partly from under 20 and 17, player like stanley okoro, Rahmon Azeez, Orelesi, and some others, if properly exposed, and well brush up along with few other talented guys like , chinedu obasi, Obinna nsofor, Obafemi martins, , Osaze, Ike uche, and few others can form a very fomidable solid team.
I mean we really need , talented, determined, hungary,  and skillfull players, not bunch of average players we have presently in super eagles.
wishing the team best of luck. One love naija.

centrica:

Hello everyone in the house, to me AMODU is not the best man for the AFCON job not even to talk about MUNDIAL cup, because we qualify out of shear luck, or it has been destined for us to qualify, this is a man , that always sat down on the bench no matter the situation or how thence a match is, a good coach should always be passionate, sensitive, to the situation on the pitch, most especially, such a person must be able to read a match, and be a good tactisian. Thus, he lack all this quality as a good coach.Most especially, their are some players he suppose to have do away with them yet he keep on stick to them as if they have paid him to be calling them to play, players like Seyi Olofinjanan, John utaka, Kanu nwako, even Yobo , to me they don't have any bizness with the national team again, but this man still use them often.
We suppose to have a fomidable team, selected from , partly, beijing olympic boys, and partly from under 20 and 17, player like stanley okoro, Rahmon Azeez, Orelesi, and some others, if properly exposed, and well brush up along with few other talented guys like , chinedu obasi, Obinna nsofor, Obafemi martins, , Osaze, Ike uche, and few others can form a very fomidable solid team.
I mean we really need , talented, determined, hungary, and skillfull players, not bunch of average players we have presently in super eagles.
wishing the team best of luck. One love naija.

This is a picturesque example of what I mean when I say Amodu's critics dont have single clue what they are talking about.
Which manager in his right mind will leave out the players you have mentioned when they are performing for their clubsides at the most competitive levels? Which manager in their right mind will bring in an untested Stanley Okoro into the Super Eagles during the world cup qualifiers in which we were on edge for most of it? To the best of my knowledge, the current super Eagles team includes a good number of the U23 team from Beijing, but you cannot see that. You people simply wont let the facts get in the way of your lame arguments. You want to expose players like Stanley Okoro and Ramon Azeez during World Cup qualifiers?
Please, if you cannot make an argument based on facts, then there is no point to your argument. Give us statistics that back up your point of view.

These are the best and most experienced players Nigeria have got, take it or leave it. They may not understand each other fully well on the pitch just yet, but give them time and they will gel. Even without the gelling, they are still yet to lose a competitive match under this manager. So, what the hell is the problem?

No he should not, we need a foriegn coach.

You people simply wont let the facts get in the way of your lame arguments. You want to expose players like Stanley Okoro and Ramon Azeez during World Cup qualifiers?

Stanley WHO?


That should never see a Jersey again unless if play for the Nigerian defence academy's football team,

Quote from: pie1ect on Yesterday at 04:29:27 PM
I honestly dont understand all this talk of incompetence when it comes to Amodu. As rightly pointed out, Tunisia had a foreign manager. One with international perdigree at that, having managed portugal to the Euros in 2000, Morroco and South Korea. Kenya had a foreign coach and quite frankly played better football under the "local" coach in the retun leg than they did in the first leg with the foreign coach. Mozambique had a foreign coach and yet we beat all these teams to the sole WC ticket. What is wrong with Nigerians that we cannot appeciate a good thing if it comes wrapped in a black skin?

The qualification ticket owes as much to luck as it does to the detrmination and work of the coaching team. What happened to Tunisia's luck even after they played almost 9 minutes of injury time in Maputo according to the FIFA Live commentary stream on the day?

Let us face facts. Amodu may not be the most decorated person in world football but he has delivered the WC ticket (twice) and we have less than 9 months to the start of the tournament. We better get our house in order rather than running around looking for a low-level white skinned coach to gift a free pass to the world cup.

Tunisia Had, Mozambique had, Kenya Had, Nigeria Had(Berti Vogt).
Off all these that had foreign coach according to you,
Which of them(Coach) is a good and widely revered coach?
To hire a half backed Teacher for your Child is as good as having no Teacher at all.
Why? He can teach him wrong things because he can not teach what he knows not.
Imagine a village Teacher sincerely calling "Pawpaw" as "Pawipawi" in Yoruba.
The man was sincere on his lecture, but sincerely wrong.
Please when you are refering to Coaches, THEY ARE IN CLASSES.
Amodu is just like our Teacher in the above example.
So also are some foreign ones who are looking for briefs like hungry Lawyers.
Get a Technical Adviser, well versed and reknown.
Guus Hiddink- i suggest or any better one.
Amodu has finished his Job.
Qualifying under the intervention of PTF.
PLEASE BRING IN THE HIDDINK OR BETTER T.A.

Olaolufred:


Qualifying under the intervention of PTF.

I think this is a fact every pro amodu NLanders have 4goten.

If Amodu knew what was at stake,who yaradua have stepped in with the PTF?