dalaman:


Give me an example of all knowing that isn't what I think.

All knowing was when Jesus told Peter he would deny him 3 times. Before it happened.
As an example.

felixomor:


But answer first, u r guilty of genocide?
Yes or No?

Now the twist and turn part.

My guilt is irrelevant here. I'm sure you know that but still hypocritically dodging the questions meant for justifying your perfect God.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Now the twist and turn part.

My guilt is irrelevant here. I'm sure you know that but still hypocritically dodging the questions meant for justifying your perfect God?

It is very relevant o.
You seem to have no problem with hypocrisy at all?

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randomperson:

The human law is a proper guide. It's not perfect but it's better than anything god supposedly gave us.
U don't seem to understand government. The human law givers are the citizens themselves. Check the Nigerian and US constitution, the preamble says "we, the people." The legislators are merely representatives and we can reject any law we don't like. So u got that part wrong.
And humans arrive at what is wrong or right through reason and instinct. I know u believe God gave this laws but that's wrong. The bible doesn't prohibit slavery or paedophilia but there are laws against it. If we waited on god to determine right or wrong, drugs abuse won't be wrong. So, no god doesn't tell us what's right or wrong.
And human laws are the best we have. That people still have desire to commit crimes is no issue. Even with your law and grace hullabaloo, Christians as still as terrible as others. They commit as many crimes as others. In fact, u won't like this but atheists have the lowest tendency for crimes... Human laws are still more effective than God's laws or grace..
Now for the umpteenth time, answer my questions

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You just said all manners of rubbish!

I asked a simple question which deserves a simple answer. Let me post it again

Why would you think the human law is now a proper guide when even the human law givers still steal and kill and go against the very law they put up? If they gave the law on what foundation was the law given? Was it on no moral values or based on randomness or trial and error basis?

If the human law giver gave the law who gave them the fact that the law was right or wrong and how did they arrive at this right or wrong position since even they also break the same laws they put out?

If the human law is now our stop then why do people still have the desire to commit crimes even in the face of the law? Is it that the human law cannot stop the inherent evil nature in man?

I a nutshell why do the givers of the human law still have the ability to break the very same law they have given? We have laws that stand against killing but the law enforcement officers kill everyday.

We have laws against rape yet people who know this still rape

We have laws against murder but murder is still being commited daily

We have laws against practically everything but people still commit them even in the face of these laws?

Isnt the human law meant to eradicate all of that if it is the best we have got?


Can a man who is able to break the same laws he gives you be seen as the final authority to the law?

felixomor:


It is very relevant o.
You seem to have no problem with hypocrisy at all?

Let me clear this part. I'm guilty of genocide.

What about Yahweh?

ScepticalPyrrho:
Nope.

We started off trying to make sense of your God being a serial killer.

I have admitted to mass murder of insects. Imperfect me...

Why do your perfect God command or allow genocide?

Why don't you try to make sense of Yahweh's perfection after killing people?

Why are you dodging answering my question. Fill in the blanks with your almighty atheistic mind pls. You spoke of genocide and in order to make it explainable in a simple form to you i gave you an assignment. Finish the assignment then we will use that analogy to answer your question.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Let me clear this part. I'm guilty of genocide.

What about Yahweh?

And u r guilty because u cant even create the leg of a cockroach.
Sad!

For God, He is not guilty to me.
Because I am not even qualified to judge Him.
I have committed way too much many sins that He has forgiven.
So sorry, He is not guilty to me.

felixomor:


He is the same God that sent Jesus for all mankind,

So u have no point.

Jesus said he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel.

The twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.As you go, proclaim this message: 'The kingdom of heaven has come near.'- Matt 10:5-7

felixomor:


All knowing was when Jesus told Peter he would deny him 3 times. Before it happened.
As an example.

But not knowing that he will have to change the laws and things he allowed like incest and all the barbaric laws of the OT? All knowing indeed.

dalaman:


Jesus said he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel.

The twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.As you go, proclaim this message: 'The kingdom of heaven has come near.'- Matt 10:5-7

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Focus on the bolded.

Next!

naijadeyhia:



Why are you dodging answering my question. Fill in the blanks with your almighty atheistic mind pls. You spoke of genocide and in order to make it explainable in a simple form to you i gave you an assignment. Finish the assignment then we will use that analogy to answer your question.

I'm an imperfect atheist, a bad one a that. I'm comfortable with that.

Please just make sense of Yahweh's decisions to kill people, even though he is perfect.

naijadeyhia:
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You just said all manners of rubbish!

I asked a simple question which deserves a simple answer. Let me post it again



I a nutshell why do the givers of the human law still have the ability to break the very same law they have given? We have laws that stand against killing but the law enforcement officers kill everyday.

We have laws against rape yet people who know this still rape

We have laws against murder but murder is still being commited daily

We have laws against practically everything but people still commit them even in the face of these laws?

Isnt the human law meant to eradicate all of that if it is the best we have got?


Can a man who is able to break the same laws he gives you be seen as the final authority to the law?

U don't comprehend easily....
The human law givers are not the president or senators. The entire people give themselves the law through their reps I.e. the legislators. I suggest u Google this or get a secondary school textbook... U are a science student it's understandable... And my battery is low

dalaman:


Jesus said he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel.

The twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.As you go, proclaim this message: 'The kingdom of heaven has come near.'- Matt 10:5-7

GO YE INTO THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL...MAKING DISCIPLES OF MEN.

FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON

THE GOSPEL SHALL BE PREACHED TO ALL CREATURES THEN THE END WILL COME

Besides these Jesus told a parable of a man who had friends and asked his servants to go and invite his friends to a party and each of those friends gave excuses why they couldnt come.

He then sent the servants out again to invite everyone...the street people, everyone they could see to the feast.

That was his analogy of his being sent to the WHOLE WORLD.

Is it still hard to understand?

felixomor:


And u r guilty because u cant even create the leg of a cockroach.
Sad!

For God, He is not guilty to me.
Because I am not even qualified to judge Him.
I have committed way too much many sins that He has forgiven.
So sorry, He is not guilty to me.

I didn't say you should judge it.

All I'm asking is simple.

How do you refer to Yahweh as perfect, intelligent and all-knowing when he keeps, and according to you, would still kill people?

Does that represent perfection to you?

dalaman:


But not knowing that he will have to change the laws and things he allowed like incest and all the barbaric laws of the OT? All knowing indeed.

There is no where that states He did not know.
Unless u want to write ur own bible.

You have one type of local child logic.
You are the type that would say, because a father refused to buy a toy for his son, it automatically means he cannot afford it.

Its kind of daft.

ScepticalPyrrho:
I'm an imperfect atheist, a bad one a that. I'm comfortable with that.

Please just make sense of Yahweh's decisions to kill people, even though he is perfect.

Just like you said, you are imperfect so why should IMPERFECTION now question ANYTHING? Only one who is PERFECT can.

Can you now fill in the blanks

naijadeyhia:


Just like you said, you are imperfect so why should IMPERFECTION now question ANYTHING? Only one who is PERFECT can.

Can you now fill in the blanks

You mean you rushed into this thread without answers?

Alright, you are not needed.

Thank you

felixomor:



John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Focus on the bolded.

Next!

What has this hot to do with Jesus warning his desciples against going to preach to the gentiles and the Samaritans. Jesus said he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel and they are to preach to only them.

He told his desciples that they will be in heaven with him and they will judge the 12 tribes of Israel.

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randomperson:

U don't comprehend easily....
The human law givers are not the president or senators. The entire people give themselves the law through their reps I.e. the legislators. I suggest u Google this or get a secondary school textbook... U are a science student it's understandable... And my battery is low

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Again you type rubbish!

Are the Presidents, senators, legislators, etc not people? WHY DO THEY STILL BREAK THE SAME LAWS THEY GIVE? This is too simple to not understand. WHY?

ScepticalPyrrho:
I didn't say you should judge it.

All I'm asking is simple.

How do you refer to Yahweh as perfect, intelligent and all-knowing when he keeps, and according to you, would still kill people?

Does that represent perfection to you?

If u dont see this question u r asking as a judgement, then I dont know what to say.

dalaman:


What has this hot to do with Jesus warning his desciples against going to preach to the gentiles and the Samaritans. Jesus said he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel and they are to preach to only them.

He told his desciples that they will be in heaven with him and they will judge the 12 tribes of Israel.

Jesus after resurrection said

"Go ye into the world"


Nezt!

ScepticalPyrrho:
You mean you rushed into this thread without answers?

Alright, you are not needed.

Thank you

cop out. I have answered you all the way and even gave you a simple answer as an assignment. Why are you atheists always dishonest. Can you carry out the assignment now and show us your answers?

felixomor:


There is no where that states He did not know.
Unless u want to write ur own bible.

You have one type of local child logic.
You are the type that would say, because a father refused to buy a toy for his son, it automatically means he cannot afford it.

Its kind of daft.

He clearly isn't all knowing if we are to go by the bible. Read the bible you will see God displaying anger tantrums. Regretting, feeling sorry, repenting of his evil deeds, changing his mind etc. All these do not portray a God that is all knowing or has an idea of the future.

dalaman:


He clearly isn't all knowing if we are to go by the bible. Read the bible you will see God displaying anger tantrums. Regretting, feeling sorry, repenting of his evil deeds, changing his mind etc. All these do not portray a God that is all knowing or has an idea of the future.

It portrays a loving God and a God who listens to His Creation as against you if given half the chance.

dalaman:


He clearly isn't all knowing if we are to go by the bible. Read the bible you will see God displaying anger tantrums. Regretting, feeling sorry, repenting of his evil deeds, changing his mind etc. All these do not portray a God that is all knowing or has an idea of the future.

All what u said is emotions.
God has emotions.
Emotions are not dependent on fore knowledge

A mother knows her child would get married and even prays for the day to come.
But on that day, it doesn't stop her from showing emotions.

You see why i frown at your logic?

felixomor:


If u dont see this question u r asking as a judgement, then I dont know what to say.

Ok.

At least you can judge your own senses. Are you not permitted to analyse your positions?

Ok, help me answer this.


Why should I believe that a God who killed men, ordered genocide, and created malaria infecting mosquitoes as perfect?

ScepticalPyrrho:
Ok.

At least you can judge your own senses. Are you not permitted to analyse your positions?

Ok, help me answer this.


Why should I believe that a God who killed men, ordered genocide, and created malaria infecting mosquitoes as perfect?

Because everything he does is perfect.
And I hope u know, this present world is temporary?


Yes, a permanent site is coming.

naijadeyhia:


cop out. I have answered you all the way and even gave you a simple answer as an assignment. Why are you atheists always dishonest. Can you carry out the assignment now and show us your answers?

Alright, please help me make sense of this below.

Why should I believe that a God who killed men, ordered genocide, and created malaria infecting mosquitoes as perfect?

ScepticalPyrrho:
Ok.

At least you can judge your own senses. Are you not permitted to analyse your positions?

Ok, help me answer this.


Why should I believe that a God who killed men, ordered genocide, and created malaria infecting mosquitoes as perfect?

You have left answering me and are now asking felixomor a question you dodged


FELIXOMOR ignore him till he fills in the blanks in my question.

You say mosquitoes are malaria infecting right? I asked you to look up the vital roles mosqutoes as well as 3 other insects i gave you play in nature that KEEP YOU ALIVE and you have been dodging.

Are you no longer a scientific minded atheist? Does your logical mind fail here?

felixomor:


Jesus after resurrection said

"Go ye into the world"


Nezt!

Its a lie Jesus said no such thing. The Mark ending does not appear in the earliest and oldest manuscripts. It was a scribe that added it to the bible many many years later. Even some bible versions acknowledged that fact.

felixomor:


Because everything he does is perfect.
And I hope u know, this present world is temporary?


Yes, a permanent site is coming.

So much for perfection.

"Temporary world"

Temporary ground of genocides...

ScepticalPyrrho:


Alright, please help me make sense of this below.

I cannot as it seems too hard for you to understand. Until you fill in the blanks in my assignment then it would be easy for your little mind to fathom.

Google is ever ready to assist you