dehazeevents:


U haven't met anyone whose been healed?? I have ... Me!
Correction not healed by a man of God ... Healed through a Man of God . Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Light and by his stripes we are Healed. You Dont necessarily need a Man of God help receive your healing . If your Mum is a true Believer, filled with the HolyGhost and has built on her Faith I don't see y she cant speak healing to her body herself. That you are alive to read this message isn't by your own doing but a big Miracle so please Calm down ! Trust me Heaven , Hell realer than u can imagine !!

Pidgin2:



Hehehehe heaven is a place where we live eternally, a place of continuous peace and joy, it's not about eating or drinking but about fellowshipping, worship, peace and joy. These emotions and activities are ours forever.

Isn't this what we all strive for in life?

Everything we aspire for and desire in this life is supposed to bring us joy and peace in the end. You strive to live in a mansion because you want to be happy living in it, you marry a wife because you want her to make you happy and you want to live in peace, you want children because they seem to give joy and happiness, you want a business or job because it will make you happy, you want to live in a good country because you want peace of mind and joy, the list is endless. All these things if achieved on earth, doesn't last forever because your flesh must die

But as Christians our spirits and Souls live on and we shall enjoy joy, peace, fellowship and much more in heaven for eternity

Pidgin2:


For one thing the fact that atheists don't seem to have peace of mind should convince anyone that there is an awesome God and his Kingdom is about peace and joy which atheists lack.

hahn:


A product of wishful thinking induced by mental slavery. I get it



Lol. This is striving for something in the afterlife. Apparently you have no regard for the life you are living now



Well, sorry to break it to you but heaven only exists in your mind. Do you have proof of anyone in your family that is in heaven?




More wishful thinking. Your pastor has you running after life in "eternity" while he enjoys riches here on earth

Continue

hahn:


Prove it pest

hahn:


Prove it pest

hahn:


Prove it pest

ScienceWatch:


By the way, I found proof that you and Libradeus and mike137 think and mention the same. Are they your alternate monikers ?

benzics:
It's been a while here though..

I see a lot of threads by theists, with titles like "reasons people become atheists", I even see most assuming that "you became an atheist because you loved sin", "you became an atheist because you were never truly religious "... I say that's bullshit!

Most theists are not even as religious as atheists/agnostics/deists were during their religious days, yes this is true, because if you've read your holy books and you still see nothing wrong with them, I must say " you try"..

As a Muslim, you see nothing wrong with your sexist, misogynistic, paedo of a prophet, it's really nice.. .

As a Christian you see nothing wrong with your insecure, misogynistic, genocidal and murderous being of a God, wow, just wow..

Many Christians whenever you quote the Bible for them, just scream "out of context" or "old testament", during my religious days, what actually made me skeptical about the Bible and God were in fact the new testament, not even the old, because apparently, we all know bible verses in churches are specifically cherry picked, so as not to bother the congregation, so I knew not much of the old testament until I started reading the Bible.

As a Christian, I never knew about the human sacrifice offered to God, I never knew about how God killed Onan for refusing to impregnate his brother's wife, I never knew God killed Uzzah for just touching the ark of covenant, I never knew about ridiculous stories like how God paused the sun, until Joshua killed all his enemies, I generally didn't know about the evil ways of God, until I read the Bible...

I was born catholic, but along the line I went to a pentecostal church, watchman, for upto 4years if not 3 or 5.. As a catholic, you'd probably think most CHRISTIAN denominations are going to hell for not worshipping God the right way, but I loved the catholic church because they were open minded unlike pentecostal churches I've been to, who in fact waste most of their times talking about the catholic church, and making up conspiracies that are simply not true about the catholic, the catholic on the other hand rarely talked about other denominations, but that's by the way..

I was an alter server, so I discovered a lot of secrets about the catholic church, how their priests were just womanizers, worst, pedophiles!

But let's just talk about why we started questioning our faiths..

There was this gospel message that irritated me, Matthew 22

So is it now by force to come to a wedding? Just because some rejected the invitation "they would be sent to eternal damnation". . Like WTF That was when I started questioning "the good God, whom will kill you for rejecting his offer".. . Great just great.. .

My journey to atheism wasn't overnight, it took time, close study of the buybull (as hopefullandlord would say ), I found a lot of things I hated in that book, and of course I interacted with atheists in their various online pages and groups, and I asked myself these questions about the existence of God and I answered them sincerely..

Have I ever seen God?? NO

Have I ever felt God?? NO

Have I ever heard God? (theists most times speak to themselves in their heads and then assume it's the voice of God), so NO!!

About Miracles

Do I have any close relative or someone I know to be physically disabled, that have been healed? (all healings I see and hear of are people I don't know), so, NO.

My friend's Dad who was blind was taken to the almighty TB sciencewatch Joshua, and can you imagine this man is blind till date, because app, "God's time is the best"...

My mum have also been to TB Joshua, and her "problems" still prevailed..

So I went on asking people if they had anybody whom they knew, that was healed by any man of "god", all I got was a no..

So there was no other conclusion than MIRACLES are just play.. .

It also took me gradually to overcome the fear of hell, and at times even wish hell was real

To other skeptics, agnostics, atheists, deists... What made you question religion?

Cc: jonbellion, hahn, felixomor, nihilism, ninjax, randomperson,4kings..

Dehnver:





Lol.. Jonbellion?
Gasps*

benzics:

LOL
Unlike theists, we atheists live by no rules or doctrines.. we simply do what we want to do!

ScienceWatch:
ha hic Haaaaaaa oooooh. I am rolling on the floor with laughter.

Very funny. Well done. Haha hahaaaa aaaaaA.

When you claim you knew the mighty Christ and now condemn yourself in public .what can I do but laugh. Even God won't sympathise with your Satanic attitude and your chosen destiny.

frank317:


Destructive false pleasures of lust? How is the pleasure of lust destructive?

Are these what u tell urself to make u feel good? U make foolish assumptions and still claim we know about it deep down in our mind... U Seriously wish there is hell and that we should go there right. That's why u are telling us we want to go there.
Trust me, if I think hell is real, I will never want to go there... But how, just how can an imaginary place be real? Only a foolish God can create hell, is ur God foolish?

Dehnver:



Dude are you okay?
You appear to have lost it.. Else why would you quote me saying something totally unrelated to my previous comment?

logoscope:
Imagine a 75yr old man crying 'I have a father, almighty father... ' at his age.

frank317:


Destructive false pleasures of lust? How is the pleasure of lust destructive?

Are these what u tell urself to make u feel good? U make foolish assumptions and still claim we know about it deep down in our mind... U Seriously wish there is hell and that we should go there right. That's why u are telling us we want to go there.
Trust me, if I think hell is real, I will never want to go there... But how, just how can an imaginary place be real? Only a foolish God can create hell, is ur God foolish?

ScienceWatch:
AAAaaah ! Lol hic ha. Can you believe that an Atheist of the caibre of FRANK317 would respond in such a childish way to PIDGIN2.

This Atheist FRANK317 is provoked and enraged because he is the only one that is unable to find an answer to HIS OWN QUESTION,
which is,

How is the pleasure of lust destructive? Keep asking yourself this childish question frank317 !

I have learned a thing or two about this type of mind-set. So remember the biblical guidance, "Dont throw your pearls to the swine."

I am not one to rub salt into an open wound the way Athiests do. But Frank317 seems to have serious problems that millions of pre-teen kids have easily found effective answers for. He irrationally dives deeper into argument by saying this. "Trust me, if I think hell is real, I will never want to go there......."

Lol haaaa hic ho, cough cough hic haaaa ! These wanabe Atheists make me laugh, roll on the floor laughter. Stomach cramping laughter

Shew I some times cant help it ! My humble apologies to whom it may concern.



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frank317:


Destructive false pleasures of lust? How is the pleasure of lust destructive?

Are these what u tell urself to make u feel good? U make foolish assumptions and still claim we know about it deep down in our mind...

U Seriously wish there is hell and that we should go there right. That's why u are telling us we want to go there.

Trust me, if I think hell is real, I will never want to go there... But how, just how can an imaginary place be real?

Only a foolish God can create hell, is ur God foolish?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!





I have not read the Original Post, but since I was tagged in on this Reply, I can answer this question:

What makes the PLEASURE OF LUST destructive?

. PROVERBS 21:17.

17. He that loveth pleasure
shall be a poor man:
he that loveth wine and oil
shall not be rich.

. LUKE 8:14.

14."And that which fell among thorns are they,
which, when they have heard, go forth,
and are choked with cares and riches
and pleasures of this life,
and bring no fruit to perfection."

PLEASURE, ACCORDING TO NAGUALISM TEACHINGS- which is based on the DIRECT OBSERVATION of Spiritual Energy- is an "INDULGENCE." That is, it WASTES SPIRITUAL ENERGY to no purpose but VANITY.

The FOCUS upon the object of lust ANCHORS THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT, like it was NAILED there with NAILS.

. MATTHEW 9:16-17.

16. "No man putteth
a piece of new cloth
unto an old garment,
for that which is put in to fill it up
taketh from the garment,
and the rent is made worse.
17. "Neither do men
put new wine
into old bottles:
else the bottles break,
and the wine runneth out,
and the bottles perish:
but they put new wine
into new bottles,
and both are preserved."

THE REFUSAL TO GIVE UP TNIS ATTACHMENT, WHILE TRYING TO MOVE THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT BY CHANGING ONE'S SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE, CAN TEAR THE SPIRIT AND SOUL APART.

. MATTHEW 12:41-45.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
e findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

THE PLEASURE OF LUST PROVIDES A BACKDOOR FOR THE DEVILS TO SIPHON OUR LIFE ENERGIES DOWN TO THE 1% SUBSISTENCE LEVEL. Leaving little or none for Spiritual Knowledge or Feats.

This is the Destructive Nature of "THE PLEASURE OF LUST."



You can see how INDULGENCE IN PLEASURE has so SAPPED YOUR AWARENESS, that you are unable to THINK about how PLEASURE OF LUST has destroyed PEOPLE WHOM YOU KNOW ABOUT in this World- but stubbornly refused to learn from.

NARCOTICS ADDICTS who SELL everything they have to become DRUNKS, CHAIN-SMOKERS, and JUNKIES- because GETTING ANOTHER HIT is MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM than their HEALTH, their PLACES IN SOCIETY, their FAMILIES, and their FRIENDS.

CRIMINALS who STOLE NARCOTICS, or stole things they could SELL to buy Narcotics, or stole MONEY to feed their habits- because their PLEASURE was MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM than their CIVIL RIGHTS.

What happens to these people on the PHYSICAL PLANE OF EXISTENCE is the DRAMATIZATION of what happens to people who value PLEASURE more than GOD.



I do not know what was said earlier, but I am familiar with this argument.

That "PEOPLE KNOW, DEEP DOWN, THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE, AND RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!" that is true, because All Creation is made up of THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD they can be used to fulfill. However, there is a lot of difference between someone with whom THE TRUTH is buried, like SIX INCHES down, and others where It is buried SIX FEET down- which is where one can end up, trying to appeal to the "INNER JESUS" of such.

There are some people whom thus argument works on, and many with whom it does not,



That is one way to interpret his teachings- whatever they were. But is it not more likely that he is trying to jolt you awake, so that you realize: "HEY! I DO WANT TO GO TO HELL! I AM TRYING TO GO TO HELL!"

L. RON HUBBARD SAID that the Human Soul is BASICALLY GOOD, and DOES NOT AGREE when its CONSCIOUS MIND is going HAYWIRE, and COMMITTING CRIMES. Therefore, it DELIBERATELY BYPASSES the Conscious Mind to CREATE CLUES, so that THE POLICE can FIND THEM, and STOP them.

For instance, after murdering someone and dumping the body, THE SUBCONSCIOUS MIND can KNOWINGLY drop its IDENTIFICATION CARD, so that the Police can know who did it. (The subconscious mind ALWAYS KNOWS when we LOSE our stuff- even when we are not physically-present!) The Subconscious Mind makes the Criminal "forget" to wear his gloves for the "Job," so that he can be identified.

The subconscious mind makes an idiot do 419 on a SIM Card registered with his face, fingerprints, and even name.

The subconscious mind makes fools try to commit fraud on an ATM Machine, that photographs everyone that uses it.

THE SUBCONSCIOUS MIND IS NOT THE CONSCIOUS MIND- SO IT IS GENERALLY A FUTILE ARGUMENT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY SUBCONSCIOUSLY AGREE WITH YOU!



ALL PLACES YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ARE IMAGINARY- UNTIL YOU GO THERE.



Would God be foolish, for creating a place to put people who call HIM FOOLISH?"

Who is the "FOOL," then?

A place to put DANGEROUS and VIOLENT Criminals is a sensible option in a land where the DEATH PENALTY us MEANINGLESS.

benzics:


About Miracles

Do I have any close relative or someone I know to be physically disabled, that have been healed? (all healings I see and hear of are people I don't know), so, NO.

My friend's Dad who was blind was taken to the almighty TB sciencewatch Joshua, and can you imagine this man is blind till date, because app, "God's time is the best"...

My mum have also been to TB Joshua, and her "problems" still prevailed..

So I went on asking people if they had anybody whom they knew, that was healed by any man of "god", all I got was a no..

So there was no other conclusion than MIRACLES are just play.. . [/b]

It also took me gradually to overcome the fear of hell, and at times even wish hell was real

To other skeptics, agnostics, atheists, deists... What made you question religion?

Cc: jonbellion, hahn, felixomor, nihilism, ninjax, randomperson,4kings..

oaroloye:
SHALOM!





I have not read the Original Post, but since I was tagged in on this Reply, I can answer this question: What makes the PLEASURE OF LUST destructive?

PLEASURE, ACCORDING TO NAGUALISM TEACHINGS- which is based on the DIRECT OBSERVATION of Spiritual Energy- is an "INDULGENCE." That is, it WASTES SPIRITUAL ENERGY to no purpose but VANITY. The FOCUS upon the object of lust ANCHORS THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT, like it was NAILED there with NAILS.

THE PLEASURE OF LUST PROVIDES A BACKDOOR FOR THE DEVILS TO SIPHON OUR LIFE ENERGIES DOWN TO THE 1% SUBSISTENCE LEVEL. Leaving little or none for Spiritual Knowledge or Feats.

This is the Destructive Nature of "THE PLEASURE OF LUST."



You can see how INDULGENCE IN PLEASURE has so SAPPED YOUR AWARENESS Frank317, that you are unable to THINK about how PLEASURE OF LUST has destroyed PEOPLE WHOM YOU KNOW ABOUT in this World- but stubbornly refused to learn from.

NARCOTICS ADDICTS who SELL everything they have to become DRUNKS, CHAIN-SMOKERS, and JUNKIES- because GETTING ANOTHER HIT is MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM than their HEALTH, their PLACES IN SOCIETY, their FAMILIES, and their FRIENDS.

CRIMINALS who STOLE NARCOTICS, or stole things they could SELL to buy Narcotics, or stole MONEY to feed their habits- because their PLEASURE was MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM than their CIVIL RIGHTS.

L. RON HUBBARD SAID that the Human Soul is BASICALLY GOOD, and DOES NOT AGREE when its CONSCIOUS MIND is going HAYWIRE, and COMMITTING CRIMES. Therefore, it DELIBERATELY BYPASSES the Conscious Mind to CREATE CLUES, so that THE POLICE can FIND THEM, and STOP them.