Hello brothers; this is to reawken the long lost deluded brothers and sisters who believe their is life after death...
Its quite sad how people , including the educated fall for this trash ...

Now just so u know, in a deeply comatose person; the cognitive and mental function of the Brian is impaired and as such a deeply comatose person is incapable of dreaming or seeing "various life" ... However they are some caveats ; e.g
A not very deeply comatose whose frontal cortex of the brain is not so impaired , could still dream Viz ; any kind of thing he imagines

So if a comatose person cannot see your fanthom heaven and hell, why do u think a dead man , will have mental capacity to dream or see himself in heaven or hell...
Please my long lost deluded brothers think and emancipafe urself from bondage today.



To further reaffirm my assertion.

Anyone who had been comatose before should please share with the house, jf he had any dreams or trans or whatsoever...

PaulKillerman:
Hello brothers; this is to reawken the long lost deluded brothers and sisters who believe their is life after death...
Its quite sad how people , including the educated fall for this trash ...

Now just so u know, in a deeply comatose person; the cognitive and mental function of the Brian is impaired and as such a deeply comatose person is incapable of dreaming or seeing "various life" ... However they are some caveats ; e.g
A not very deeply comatose whose frontal cortex of the brain is not so impaired , could still dream Viz ; any kind of thing he imagines

So if a comatose person cannot see your fanthom heaven and hell, why do u think a dead man , will have mental capacity to dream or see himself in heaven or hell...
Please my long lost deluded brothers think and emancipafe urself from bondage today.



To further reaffirm my assertion.

Anyone who had been comatose before should please share with the house, jf he had any dreams or trans or whatsoever...

My dear friend, the jury is not yet out on that one. As Shakespeare said, "... there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy".

Have you heard of dark matter and dark energy? And the consensus by physicists and Astronomers that this so far undetectable phenomenon (because it is spread very thinly around the universe), yet manifests an aggregate gravitational effect on the universe that they agree that it accounts for 60 to 70% of the matter and energy in the universe.

Think of it. 70% of the matter/energy in the universe is as yet invisible to man, yet it is almost proven to be there, by modern science.

No, the jury is not out. We have to keep searching. But that is not to say that I support the chalarttans and guessers who claim it is like this or that, without any credible evidence.

To come back to your concern: Yes, It is possible that some highly organized energy may emanate from discontinued life forms, but may only manifest on a different level of reality (dark matter/dark energy?).

For further exploration of this theme, I recommend the Hollywood film "source code".

Trash...

PaulKillerman:
Hello brothers; this is to reawken the long lost deluded brothers and sisters who believe their is life after death...
Its quite sad how people , including the educated fall for this trash ...

Now just so u know, in a deeply comatose person; the cognitive and mental function of the Brian is impaired and as such a deeply comatose person is incapable of dreaming or seeing "various life" ... However they are some caveats ; e.g
A not very deeply comatose whose frontal cortex of the brain is not so impaired , could still dream Viz ; any kind of thing he imagines

So if a comatose person cannot see your fanthom heaven and hell, why do u think a dead man , will have mental capacity to dream or see himself in heaven or hell...
Please my long lost deluded brothers think and emancipafe urself from bondage today.



To further reaffirm my assertion.

Anyone who had been comatose before should please share with the house, jf he had any dreams or trans or whatsoever...

I dont believe in an after-life but i think your post is missing the crucial ingredient you promised in the title, "PROOF". This is not a proof, this is just an opinion.

holocron:

To come back to your concern: Yes, It is possible that some highly organized energy may emanate from discontinued life forms, but may only manifest on a different level of reality (dark matter/dark energy?).

@bolded is either wrong or you are trying to portray a different message than you intended, i would like to understand what you mean by "highly organized energy", because we live in a universe that is ruled by the second law of thermodynamics. If life-forms stop getting a constant stream of energy, then only one thing follows after that, DISORDER, so the highly organizing part is very unlikely.

donnffd:


I dont believe in an after-life but i think your post is missing the crucial ingredient you promised in the title, "PROOF". This is not a proof, this is just an opinion.



@bolded is either wrong or you are trying to portray a different message than you intended, i would like to understand what you mean by "highly organized energy", because we live in a universe that is ruled by the second law of thermodynamics. If life-forms stop getting a constant stream of energy, then only one thing follows after that, DISORDER, so the highly organizing part is very unlikely.

You know about the 2nd law as operating in the visible universe. Meanwhile science hints that about 70% of the universe is dark matter/energy not yet observeable, only deduced from gravitational anomalies. How do u know if visible matter in some living things can generate dark matter which will then continue to feed off dark energy to maintain its organised state.

Aĺl these is just pure conjecture of course, but we need to think outside the box.

[quote author=donnffd



@bolded is either wrong or you are trying to portray a different message than you intended, i would like to understand what you mean by "highly organized energy", because we live in a universe that is ruled by the second law of thermodynamics. If life-forms stop getting a constant stream of energy, then only one thing follows after that, DISORDER, so the highly organizing part is very unlikely.[/quote]

Am talking about dark matter/dark energy which is said to comprise 70% of the known universe.
At the cessation of life in the conventional material universe, lifeforms could generate dark matter composites which could exist in an alternative universe and continue to exist using dark energy. Think about it.

Come to think about it, there is nothing necessary about the 2ND LAW. It might as well be the reverse in an alternate universe. The universe could offer other exigencies to counteract it.

PaulKillerman

You are blabbing, you proved nothing

There is no God/gods/heaven/hell/luck/miracle/written destiny!

We were nothing before, we are now something, then we will be nothing!

Bros,
It's pathetic that when the truth will dawn on you, it will be too late.
There is life after death. Have you heard Of near death experiences?
Do you believe in God? Do you believe in the perfection of God?
If you do, then you should believe in life after death.
I wish I could help you more.
Please e-mail me on Chijiokefbn@gmail.com. This is not to convince you, but for us to exchange ideas.

Regards

[quote author=holocron post=56524318][/quote]

While i am not against thinking wild and in awesome exotic ways, i still caution that belief should be based on evidence and the scientific method.

Even if all you said was correct, there was no way for us to test if it was true or not and so that put it in the realm of pseudo-science. We have to make do of what we can test and what we have evidence for and for now we have evidence for the 2nd law of thermodynamics and there is no indication whatsoever that when life ends, it transitions to any form of energy.

donnffd:


While i am not against thinking wild and in awesome exotic ways, i still caution that belief should be based on evidence and the scientific method.

Even if all you said was correct, there was no way for us to test if it was true or not and so that put it in the realm of pseudo-science. We have to make do of what we can test and what we have evidence for and for now we have evidence for the 2nd law of thermodynamics and there is no indication whatsoever that when life ends, it transitions to any form of energy.

Agreed that there is no evidence, currently. I only advocated keeping an open mind as to the range of possibilities. After all what is the source of the hypotheses to be tested by the scientific method? Is it not the imagination based on the range of possibilities? Human knowledge of the universe, so far, is extremely limited.

PaulKillerman:
Hello brothers; this is to reawken the long lost deluded brothers and sisters who believe their is life after death...
Its quite sad how people , including the educated fall for this trash ...

Now just so u know, in a deeply comatose person; the cognitive and mental function of the Brian is impaired and as such a deeply comatose person is incapable of dreaming or seeing "various life" ... However they are some caveats ; e.g
A not very deeply comatose whose frontal cortex of the brain is not so impaired , could still dream Viz ; any kind of thing he imagines

So if a comatose person cannot see your fanthom heaven and hell, why do u think a dead man , will have mental capacity to dream or see himself in heaven or hell...
Please my long lost deluded brothers think and emancipafe urself from bondage today.



To further reaffirm my assertion.

Anyone who had been comatose before should please share with the house, jf he had any dreams or trans or whatsoever...

have you died and found out there is no afterlife ? if no, then I admire this your faith, is a great faith you've got my friend.

PaulKillerman:
Hello brothers; this is to reawken the long lost deluded brothers and sisters who believe their is life after death...
Its quite sad how people , including the educated fall for this trash ...

Now just so u know, in a deeply comatose person; the cognitive and mental function of the Brian is impaired and as such a deeply comatose person is incapable of dreaming or seeing "various life" ... However they are some caveats ; e.g
A not very deeply comatose whose frontal cortex of the brain is not so impaired , could still dream Viz ; any kind of thing he imagines

So if a comatose person cannot see your fanthom heaven and hell, why do u think a dead man , will have mental capacity to dream or see himself in heaven or hell...
Please my long lost deluded brothers think and emancipafe urself from bondage today.



To further reaffirm my assertion.

Anyone who had been comatose before should please share with the house, jf he had any dreams or trans or whatsoever...

I thought you said you had proof?

So what of my 72virgins?

SHALOM!

PaulKillerman:
Hello brothers; this is to reawken the long lost deluded brothers and sisters who believe their is life after death...
Its quite sad how people , including the educated fall for this trash ...

WHO EDUCATED YOU- GOD, OR THE UNGODLY?

Now just so u know, in a deeply comatose person; the cognitive and mental function of the Brian is impaired and as such a deeply comatose person is incapable of dreaming or seeing "various life" ... However they are some caveats ; e.g
A not very deeply comatose whose frontal cortex of the brain is not so impaired , could still dream Viz ; any kind of thing he imagines

THE OYINBOS DELIBERATELY CONFUSE THE MIND AND THE BRAIN, KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT THE TWO ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES.

During the 1950s, a Silent War with Quiet Weapons was being waged, that was far more important than World War II.

At that time, the LEADING PSYCHOLOGISTS swore that there was no such thing as the MIND recording anything when the BRAIN was rendered "unconscious." LAFAYETTE RONALD HUBBARD, an Engineering School dropout, with vast esoteric experience and research under his belt, debunked this with a simple-sounding experiment:

Two Psychiatrists challenged L. Ron Hubbard to prove that the Mind can record data when the Brain is unconscious.

They rendered a man unconscious by anaesthesia, and spoke nonsense syllables over him, and sent him to L. Ron Hubbard, challenging him to recover the words, which he could not possibly know beforehand, nor after the fact.

Since his instructions on how the experiment should be conducted, in order to avoid damage to the subject's mind were not carried out to the letter, it took him 18 hours to accomplish the recovery.

He recorded it on a disk, and sent it to the Psychiatrists, who apparently, never acknowledged his contribution.

We now know that the ability of the mind to record data, while the brain is unconscious, is the vital component of MIND KONTROL ULTRA- an incredibly effective form of Hypnotic Brainwashing that can be implemented in a few hours, with pocket equipment, but make a person a teleguided mind-control slave to whoever knows the "Trigger Code-Words," for life.

This is what they were covering up for the CIA. (Look it up.)

So that your "EDUCATION" is FRAUDULENT, because there is "CLASSIFIED INFORMATION" that they will not tell you.

So if a comatose person cannot see your fanthom heaven and hell, why do u think a dead man , will have mental capacity to dream or see himself in heaven or hell...
Please my long lost deluded brothers think and emancipafe urself from bondage today.

ONLY THE BODY IS "COMATOSE."

The mind is very much active- on levels of Existence that publicly-released Oyinbo Science cannot detect.

. THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE.

1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS;
5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.

. THE EIGHT DYNAMICS. by L. Ron Hubbard

1.SELF; 2.FAMILY; 3.GROUPS; 4.ALL MANKIND; 5.ALL LIVING THINGS;
6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time- i.e. PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 7.SPIRITS; 8.GOD.

THE AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO CONTROL THE DYNAMICS.

8.Self; 12.Groups; 15.All Mankind; 22. MEST Universe; 32.Spirits; 40.God.

. The L. Ron Hubbard TONE SCALE.

40. SERENITY;
30. POSTULATES;
22. GAMES;
20. ACTION;
8.0 EXHILARATION;
6.0 AESTHETICS;
4.0 ENTHUSIASM;
3.5 CHEERFULNESS;
3.0 CONSERVATISM;
2.5 BOREDOM;
2.0 OVERT HOSTILITY;
1.8 PAIN;
1.5 ANGER;
1.4 HATE;
1.2 NO SYMPATHY;
1.1 COVERT HOSTILITY;
1.0 FEAR;
0.9 SYMPATHY;
0.5 GRIEF;
0.1 APATHY;
0.0 BODY DEATH.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.
SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: THE BOOK OF BASICS, by L. Ron Hubbard.
THE DYNAMICS & TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MENTAL DREAMING, which is THOUGHT and IMAGINATION, and EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION, which is SPIRITUAL.

Minds like yours are too weak to know the difference.

To experience both, you need to get stronger.

[url-https://www.nairaland.com/3470947/ultimate-proof-spiritual-nature-lucid]I have endeavored to EDUCATE you in the TRUE Nature of your Mind- which the Oyinbos do not want you to know about- but have been harassed by GATEKEEPER DOGS, and impeded by PIGS- which hear my Teachings, then go back to the people who tell them comforting LIES, that are KILLING THEM![/url]

To further reaffirm my assertion.

Anyone who had been comatose before should please share with the house, jf he had any dreams or trans or whatsoever...

The Psychologists have claimed that people could not have dreams if their brain was not producing some chemical or the other- I forget which- Dopamine? Whatever it was, it has been debunked. They have some other stumblingblock they invented. When that is debunked, too, they move to the next NEW LIE.

THE ASSEMBLAGE POINT is the location of THE MIND within the SOUL BODY.

It has a common location in ordinary people.

When it is moved, even a little, those people become something extraordinary.

The data recorded at one Assemblage Point cannot be recovered from another.

One must shift the Assemblage Point to that exact location, in order to recover that data.

That is why we cannot recall most of our Dreams in Waking Life: the Assemblage Point gains the Energy to move during sleep, because there are functions that are no longer being maintained. When one wakes up, the Assemblage Point resumes its normal position, and we lose contact with the data stored during Dreaming.

One of the Essential Spiritual Disciplines therefore, is the ability to move the Assemblage Point about at will.

THE HUMAN SOUL IS A SPIRITUAL ENTITY, CAPABLE OF EMULATING ANYTHING THAT IT PERCEIVES, CONCEIVES, OR RECALLS.

The most everyday use of this ability is the SYMPATHETIC EMULATION OF TEACHERS.

People behaving like someone whom they have perceived.

Doing things that they have learned from others.

However, what is most serious is that the potentially unlimited Spiritual Entity decides, for whatever reason, to EMULATE THE HUMAN BRAIN.

That is the Purpose of the OYINBO EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

That would not be serious, but such a SOUL, in Emulating a Mammalian Brain, FORGETS that it s an "Infinite" Spiritual Entity, and BELIEVES/THINKS that it is MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, and Time- i.e. PHYSICAL,) even to the extent of EMULATING MEST LIMITATIONS to the point of DYING WHEN ITS MEST BODY DOES.

When the BRAIN is DAMAGED in some regard, the Soul Body then CONSIDERS that it can no longer use that functionality that was channeled through that damaged part of the Brain. There have been Scientific Breakthroughs in overcoming that FALSE LIMITATION- which the Oyinbos will be claiming that THEY INVENTED.

It is therefore necessary to dissociate ourselves from the nonsense and lies the Oyinbos have forced down our throats, because the END RESULT of all those lies is that OUR SOUL BODY DIES WHEN OUR MEST BODY DOES- and it does not have to be like that, at all!

analice107:
I thought you said you had proof?

don't mind him.

Simple question


How can there be life after death?

You can't be living after you have died. Even the bible said that the dead are unconscious of themselves so tell me how an unconscious person be alive. But like people who follow the bible are confused, the bible also said another thing about death. Fact is that man have always been fascinated with eternity and being that you can't escape death, the idea of living after death came about. Why should God allow man to die only to resurrect him again while there are lots of issues to be taken care of like poverty, famine, malaria and other epidemics. He should get busy with those and allow the dead to die

@Paul killerman,

You are very correct!!! Life after death is an imbecilic teaching and everyone accepts their own version of it!!!

When the Hindu says that the christian will become an onion in his next life, the christian will reject it!!!

When the Japanese say that your cooking intensils in the house can also receive life after death, all the religious people in Nairaland will laugh and reject it!!!

When the Jews said that Jesus returned to life in hell(in a lake of burning semen), all Redeemed members rejected it!!!

When scientists said that they can clone a rat so that it can live again, see what the Christians said................."Na lie!!! It is Satan moving the body of the rat with his finger!!!"

Read the Open heavens devotional here www.diverswift.com/open-heavens/ Believe it or not. There's a God up there.

zlent16:
Read the Open heavens devotional here www.diverswift.com/open-heavens/ Believe it or not. There's a God up there.

Why do u believe ur religion supercedes others and is existential and others are not; can you in anyway prove to me that other religions are false and yours is true; I mean with facts and figures not hear says or heresy