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The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by Yisraylite(m): 9:05pm On Dec 24, 2009
HaSatan in the Amharic(ancient hebrew) means man's adversary.The Almighty Creator created and appointed satan to this office to serve as HIS messenger of destruction, and I must say that satan carries out all YAHAWAH'S commands perfectly. Don't buy the twisted fairytales contained in the Vatican created false New Testament about there being a war in Heaven and Satan being kicked out. Christianity claims to get its roots from the Original Testament (so called Old Testament) yet there is no such record or evidence of any war in heaven in the Original testament.


Rather than blame Satan why don't people take responsibility for the choices they make, after all it is man who hurts his fellow man by
stealing, despoiling, murdering, starting wars, lying, committing adultery, whoring and spiritual fornications etc, When a man decides to go steal and murders in the process, what's that got do with satan? it is that man who has become a devil and a demon, one who has refused to abide by the Laws of love given by the Creator

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which YAHAWAH had made. And he said to the woman, "Has YAHAWAH indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?"

The Serpent here simply means a deceiver, kinda like these preachers running around today deceiving people while having their hands in peoples pockets,selling them false hope. have you ever heard someone being called a snake? or someone having a forked tongue? this is a person whose words or speach can not be trusted!



Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field

Torah's definition of Beast

Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other.

Dan 7:17 'Those great beasts, which are four, are four kings which arise out of the earth.

These are Rulers of great political/religious kingdoms of the Earth

Did you get that! This was a deceiver king of a now lawless nation who came up to deceive and steal that which YAHAWAH had given Adam and Eve dominion over.



       
Based on its usage darkness refers lawlessness while light refers to AYAH'S (IAM) Law

Gen 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of YAHAWAH was hovering over the face of the waters

Without form means without structure, Law and order gives every society form or structure

Void depending on its usage means without the Law or light of YAHAWAH


Psa 119:126 It is time for You to act, O YAHAWAH, For they have regarded Your law as void. 
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Darkness(blackness): Yer(Jer) 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, And the heavens above be black, Because I have spoken. I have purposed and will not relent, Nor will I turn back from it

Psa 119:105 Your Law is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path

For the commandment is a lamp, And the law a light; Reproofs of instruction are the way of life

Adam was created by YAHAWAH as His new Light bearer in world that had gone dark(become Lawless). His Priest of Righteousness in a world that had now become void of light with its inhabitants living in darkness. It's kings and Rulers now lawless without the perfect Law of Love!

Remember it was from these people that Cain later took a wife from! This proves that there were other people on the earth when Adam and Eve were brought forth

Gen 4:14 Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will happen [that] anyone who finds me will kill me

Who were these people whom Cain was referring to that would kill him if they found him? If Adam, Eve, Cain & Abel were the only ones one the Earth?

Gen 4:15 And YAHAWAH said to him, "Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And YAHAWAH set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him

Again who are these people? They sure aren't Adam, Eve or dead Abel!

Gen 4:16 Then Cain went out from the presence of YAHAWAH and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 


Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch

Who is this wife Cain married? I heard ignorant Christians say Cain married his Sister. YAHAWAH does not permit incest, it is against His Laws, besides there is no record of Eve giving birth to any female children!

Lev 20:17 'If a man takes his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and sees her unclothedness and she sees his unclothedness, it [is] a wicked thing. And they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He has uncovered his sister's unclothedness. He shall bear his guilt

It was the Ruler of these lawless people that came up to deceive Adam & Eve in order to take the possession and Authority YAHAWAH had bestowed upon His Priest Adam

Please read further:


Eze 28:12 "Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "You [were] the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty

Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of YAHAWAH; Every precious stone [was] your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created

Eze 28:15 You [were] perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.

I hope you got that! Ruler of Tyre was in AYAH'S garden not Satan!

Eze 27:2 "Now, son of man, take up a lamentation for Tyre, 

Eze 27:3 and say to Tyre, 'You who are situated at the entrance of the sea, merchant of the peoples on many coastlands, thus says YAHAWAH: "O Tyre, you have said, 'I [am] perfect in beauty.' 

Eze 27:4 Your borders [are] in the midst of the seas. Your builders have perfected your beauty

Eze 27:11 Men of Arvad with your army [were] on your walls [all] around, And the men of Gammad were in your towers; They hung their shields on your walls [all] around; They made your beauty perfect

Eze 27:23 Haran, Canneh, Eden, the merchants of Sheba, Assyria, [and] Chilmad [were] your merchants.

Eze 28:2 "Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, 'Thus says the YAHAWAH: "Because your heart [is] lifted up, And you say, 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, In the midst of the seas,' Yet you [are] a man, and not a god, Though you set your heart as the heart of a god

Is Satan a Man?  Every scripture here refers to the King or prince of Tyre who was a man(Eze 28:2)

It was He who came up to deceive Adam and Eve, This man and deceiver said 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, and promised Eve the same, to become a god

Gen 3:5 For YAHAWAH  knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like a God, knowing good and evil.

Let me stop for now!
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by kristonium(m): 5:50pm On Dec 25, 2009
Let me stop for now!

no, don't stop!continue with your errors!
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by Yisraylite(m): 6:24pm On Dec 25, 2009
@ kristonium

no, don't stop!continue with your errors

grin grin grin and I'm supposed to take you seriously undecided, what errors? please point them out and then post a correct response lipsrsealed

Simply mentioning errors with no scriptural refute shall not suffice and will plainly expose your ignorance cheesy
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by Yisraylite(m): 7:47pm On Dec 25, 2009
@ kristonium

I openly challenge you to a duel of the minds on this subject! state your case for errors and prove it per scriptures from the OT since it was in effect before any so called new testament came about, if not stay off my thread undecided
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by noetic15(m): 10:57pm On Dec 25, 2009
Yisraylite:

@ kristonium

I openly challenge you to a duel of the minds on this subject! state your case for errors and prove it per scriptures from the OT since it was in effect before any so called new testament came about, if not stay off my thread undecided

and what would be the benefit of this fruitless exercise?
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by Yisraylite(m): 11:49pm On Dec 25, 2009
@noetic15

what's this hot air, did someone say something, your comment is of no significance, so you are officially on iggy grin grin
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by kristonium(m): 7:20pm On Dec 26, 2009
Yisraylite:

@ kristonium

I openly challenge you to a duel of the minds on this subject! state your case for errors and prove it per scriptures from the OT since it was in effect before any so called new testament came about, if not stay off my thread undecided

hmmmmmm!
i wish i have your time.but wht point are trying to make with this tread?

1.is it to establish the non existence of the devil?

2.is it to point out the gender of this being called satan?

3.or are u trying nail the point that Eve actually slept with the serpent

my friend what is the point?why are u shying away from the New Testament? don't u believe in the New testament?

u need to answer all of these questions before i can join u in the so called duel.ok
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by Yisraylite(m): 7:53pm On Dec 26, 2009
@ kristonium

Bro you came at me like this
no, don't stop!continue with your errors
without stating what those errors were or why you believed the post to be erroneous!
having said that , let me expound a bit more, Christianity's new testament IDs the serpent in genesis as the devil or satan a fallen angel,while the original testament proves this not to be the case!

The Serpent was a Ruler, a man and not any fallen angel

there is no record of Eve sleeping with anyone other than Adam!

Satan is not a fallen angel ,but a messenger of destruction appointed to that position by The Creator

my friend what is the point?why are u shying away from the New Testament? don't u believe in the New testament?

u need to answer all of these questions before i can join u in the so called duel.ok

I don't buy the new testament gibberish, so for more on that please readhttps://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-370843.0.html#msg5189288

If you're ready then we can roll, so you game?
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by kristonium(m): 8:20pm On Dec 26, 2009
Yisraylite:

@ kristonium

Bro you came at me like this without stating what those errors were or why you believed the post to be erroneous!
having said that , let me expound a bit more, Christianity's new testament IDs the serpent in genesis as the devil or satan a fallen angel,while the original testament proves this not to be the case!

The Serpent was a Ruler, a man and not any fallen angel

there is no record of Eve sleeping with anyone other than Adam!

Satan is not a fallen angel ,but a messenger of destruction appointed to that position by The Creator

I don't buy the new testament gibberish, so for more on that please readhttps://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-370843.0.html#msg5189288

If you're ready then we can roll, so you game?

my friend,since u dont believe in the New Testament,i ve no business with u.the Canonical Scripture is not complete without the New Testament.The New Testament is a seal of the Holy Writ.
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by Yisraylite(m): 8:35pm On Dec 26, 2009
@kristonium

my friend,since u dont believe in the New Testament,i ve no business with u.the Canonical Scripture is not complete without the New Testament.The New Testament is a seal of the Holy Writ.

I thought as much undecided, ain't the foundation of Christianity supposed to be built upon the so called old testament? The same one that says this

Yah 1:8   "This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth (TORAH-Instruction), but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws." 

Psa 1:2   But his delight is in the law of YAHAWAH, And in His law he meditates day and night.

THE  NEW TESTAMENT IS NOT THE BOOK OF THE LAW! AND IN FACT PROMOTES THE OUT RIGHT HATRED OF THE CREATOR'S LAWS

Go figure undecided
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by kristonium(m): 9:24am On Dec 28, 2009
Yisraylite:

@kristonium

I thought as much undecided, ain't the foundation of Christianity supposed to be built upon the so called old testament? The same one that says this

Yah 1:8   "This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth (TORAH-Instruction), but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws." 

Psa 1:2   But his delight is in the law of YAHAWAH, And in His law he meditates day and night.

THE  NEW TESTAMENT IS NOT THE BOOK OF THE LAW! AND IN FACT PROMOTES THE OUT RIGHT HATRED OF THE CREATOR'S LAWS

Go figure undecided


thanks!
Re: The Serpent in Genesis was a Man Rather Than The So Called Fallen Angel -satan ! by Yisraylite(m): 3:53pm On Dec 28, 2009
@ kristonium

You're welcome Bro! smiley

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