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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by ipodstinks: 12:21pm On Apr 03, 2017
MrEgbegbe:
God doesn't exist

He created Adam and Eve which were the first people ever created, Adam and Eve had children, their children had children, the children must have had sex with their mother and sisters

Another super story, a virgin got impregnated by a holy spirit, hahahahahahha

We have been waiting for the coming of the Lord Jesus for 1 million years now and he's still busy arranging for the flight that will take him to earth

If you don't believe in God, you will go to hell fire, what kind of fire is in there ?? It has been flaming for 6 million years now non stop and the people in it haven't turned to ashes ??

God loves his children, meanwhile he's sitting in his chair made of diamonds and gold and his children are on earth dying of starvation


Go tell that stupid story to primary school kids
ranting rubbish. if you don't biliv in God, keep it to yourself, nobody cares about that. God exists, if you don't biliv, tell your father to create one human and gives him a life. then, we will believe your junks.

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by otemdomino: 12:21pm On Apr 03, 2017
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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by mmsen: 12:21pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
I understand the move tho, I just don't think the Atheist society should be the one making this petition. Soon the so called Atheist society would be marred in Bureaucracy typical Nigerian fashion, The higher ups would be honour and revere like pastors or religious leaders, The rest of the atheists will have no choice but to accept whatever decision the higher ups make. They would be seen as the representation of atheism in Nigeria. And then a new religion would be born, all what we have condemn. But all in all this is progress, only in the wrong manner.

I somewhat understand your point but you can be an atheist without being a member of the society and I can imagine that most people who don't believe in any deity will just live their lives as normal.

I doubt I'll be joining myself but at least there will be a platform or entity that will work towards breaking some of the foolish taboos that exist.

The difference between being religious and not being so is that there is no requirement that you humble yourself before any person who claims to represent a fictional being.

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 12:22pm On Apr 03, 2017
I do not condemn atheist,infact i applaud them for not taking the root of the majority or perhaps the foundation of their parent.

they have choosen the root of science and human logic as a base to defend their faith and that is a very interesting part of them to me.

but little they no,science is not absolute and human logic sometimes failed.we can use ZIMBABWE case as an example.despite the 14 degree of president mugabe almost to 100percent literacy of the country,it is the poorest country in the world.

lastly my advice to them will be borrowed from a prominent scholar Gyambra marthins.he says it is better to belive in God so that you can be save after death and be free if trully god do not exist after death.play the game wisely.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 12:22pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
I understand the move tho, I just don't think the Atheist society should be the one making this petition. Soon the so called Atheist society would be marred in Bureaucracy typical Nigerian fashion, The higher ups would be honour and revere like pastors or religious leaders, The rest of the atheists will have no choice but to accept whatever decision the higher ups make. They would be seen as the representation of atheism in Nigeria. And then a new religion would be born, all what we have condemn. But all in all this is progress, only in the wrong manner.
I quite agree with you
But disagree with the blue texts.

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by otemdomino: 12:23pm On Apr 03, 2017
Omoluabi16:
That doesn't change the fact that God was, God is, And God is to come.
He's coming
He's coming...
Your great grandchildren will continue with this he's coming
song Yeshua(Faulkin) is dead, let him rest abeg. No ghost
of him is coming back pls. cheesy cheesy
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 12:23pm On Apr 03, 2017
grin
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 12:24pm On Apr 03, 2017
A88C:
I do not condemn atheist,infact i applaud them for not taking the root of the majority or perhaps the foundation of their parent.

they have choosen the root of science and human logic as a base to defend their faith and that is a very interesting part of them to me.

but little they no,science is not absolute and human ligic sometimes failed.we can use ZIMBABWE case as an example.despite the 14 degree of president mugabe almost to 100percent literacy of the country,it is the poorest country in the world.

lastly my advice to them will be borrowed from a prominent scholar Gyambra marthins.he says it is better to belive in God so that you can be save after death and be free if trully god do not exist after death.play the game wisely.
A very absurd pascal wager's quote

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 12:25pm On Apr 03, 2017
ipodstinks:
ranting rubbish. if you don't biliv in God, keep it to yourself, nobody cares about that. God exists, if you don't biliv, tell your father to create one human and gives him a life. then, we will believe your junks.
And you that believe in god, tell that your god to grow the limb of an amputee

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Idrismusty97(m): 12:29pm On Apr 03, 2017
mmsen:


I somewhat understand your point but you can be an atheist without being a member of the society and I can imagine that most people who don't believe in any deity will just live their lives as normal.

I doubt I'll be joining myself but at least there will be a platform or entity that will work towards breaking some of the foolish taboos that exist.

The difference between being religious and not being so is that there is no requirement that you humble yourself before any person who claims to represent a fictional being.
And that's what i like about it @bolded. But that platform or entity doesn't have to be an atheist society. They are religious individuals who are quite rational. The atheist society is making it seem like an "Us vs Them" kind of scenario.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by mmsen: 12:34pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
And that's what i like about it @bolded. But that platform or entity doesn't have to be an atheist society. They are religious individuals who are quite rational. The atheist society is making it seem like an "Us vs Them" kind of scenario.

They're rational to a point - for you to accept religious dogma you need to turn your back on reason.

A rational person wouldn't accept stories about virgin births, talking donkeys or people living for hundreds of years.

So while it may seem as though it's "Us vs Them" the reality is that it's "Myth vs Skepticism".
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Idrismusty97(m): 12:39pm On Apr 03, 2017
adepeter26:

I quite agree with you
But disagree with the blue texts.

Regarding the blue text it is only a matter of time. Right now the Athiest society are making decisions we all applaud, overtime they may become the leading movement of atheism in Nigeria and would be seen as the representation of atheism by many. As they make more good decision we will continue to applaud them. But then what happens if they start acting ridiculously? By then we must have grown more attached to them and will have no choice but to applaud them yet again to save face, For they are now the leaders/representation of atheism in Nigeria. Similar to how religious people defend their religion and religions leaders/text. I hope you get my point. I hope we athiests wouldn't cringed to this so called society religiously and continue to view everything from a logical/rational point view like we have always done.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 12:40pm On Apr 03, 2017
The MDCN was petitioned to discourage medical doctor's referring patients to faith healers (and validating faith healers) for health issues as this act has no basis in scientific, evidence-based medicine.

I applaud the formation of the atheist society of Nigeria as long as it purely remains a vehicle for humanist change in Nigeria and espouses humanist ideals. If it ever becomes less about that and more about the ideas and desires of a select few it becomes like the religious institutions we dislike.

Their website is: atheist.org.ng

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by suremanpatriot: 12:45pm On Apr 03, 2017
It is a very dark day for this organization...people languishing in worst of ignoramuses and lunacy. Close your noses for 10mins and dont breath the invisibly free air from our eternally merciful God ,then see whether you will survive without His air.

God is so merciful that even when you mess with His smiley goodness, He remains most merciful till you come out of your madness.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Idrismusty97(m): 12:49pm On Apr 03, 2017
LightandDarkness:
The MDCN was petitioned to discourage medical doctor's referring patients to faith healers (and validating faith healers) for health issues as this act has no basis in scientific, evidence-based medicine.

I applaud the formation of the atheist society of Nigeria as long as it purely remains a vehicle for humanist change in Nigeria and espouses humanist ideals. If it ever becomes less about that and more about the ideas and desires of a select few it becomes like the religious institutions we dislike.

Their website is: atheist.org.ng
Exactly my point.

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Onwardvic(m): 12:57pm On Apr 03, 2017
FOOLS have said in their minds,there is no God. #noapologytoanybody
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 12:58pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
Regarding the blue text it is only a matter of time. Right now the Athiest society are making decisions we all applaud, overtime they may become the leading movement of atheism in Nigeria and would be seen as the representation of atheism by many. As they make more good decision we will continue to applaud them. But then what happens if they start acting ridiculously? By then we must have grown more attached to them and will have no choice but to applaud them yet again to save face, For they are now the leaders/representation of atheism in Nigeria. Similar to how religious people defend their religion and religions leaders/text. I hope you get my point. I hope we athiests wouldn't cringed to this so called society religiously and continue to view everything from a logical/rational point view like we have always done.
@red
I agree but on a second thought, i don't see such happening knowing fully well that they're aware what atheism is all about.

@blue
Same as red
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by ExInferis(m): 1:06pm On Apr 03, 2017
MrEgbegbe:
God doesn't exist

He created Adam and Eve which were the first people ever created, Adam and Eve had children, their children had children, the children must have had sex with their mother and sisters

Another super story, a virgin got impregnated by a holy spirit, hahahahahahha

We have been waiting for the coming of the Lord Jesus for 1 million years now and he's still busy arranging for the flight that will take him to earth

If you don't believe in God, you will go to hell fire, what kind of fire is in there ?? It has been flaming for 6 million years now non stop and the people in it haven't turned to ashes ??

God loves his children, meanwhile he's sitting in his chair made of diamonds and gold and his children are on earth dying of starvation


Go tell that stupid story to primary school kids


Of all the atheists on NL, you've the least convincing argument in support of your disbelief.

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by abbatoir(m): 1:06pm On Apr 03, 2017
Hmmm
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by ExInferis(m): 1:07pm On Apr 03, 2017
henrydadon:
grin

where is seun..we should go and register

we must eradicate religion in this country..our people need to wake up..look at the northern part of nigeria..y'all know how under-develop that place is because of religion..they wont go to school rather they will cram all the verse in the quran...for what exactly? to recite to allah when they get to heaven?

look at the woman who just abandon her daughter simply because a 'man of God' told her daughter is a snake..that woman derseve to be flogged then the pastor need to be jailed..

we are years behind of other other countries simply because of religion.

i weep for africa..

I'm quite sure one or both of your parents believe in some sort of god.

Begin your purge with them.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 1:10pm On Apr 03, 2017
suremanpatriot:
It is a very dark day for this organization...people languishing in worst of ignoramuses and lunacy. Close your noses for 10mins and dont breath the invisibly free air from our eternally merciful God ,then see whether you will survive without His air.

I actually don't know how to respond to your ignorance but I step low to explain few facts to you....
First, you can never, i mean never in ya right state of mind kill yourself.
Secondly, you can't kill ya self by seizing ya breath because breath is an involuntary action.
Thirdly, you Ve no claim as to say god owned air cos artificial oxygen Ve been synthesised by human to resuscitate life.
Lastly, going by your logic, why not cut-off ya head and see if God will bring you back to life.... (Hope it sounds cool within you and serve a living and almighty god).
God is so merciful that even when you mess with His smiley goodness, He remains most merciful till you come out of your madness.
He's so merciful yet he destroyed the earth with the bullsh!t flood story?
He's so merciful yet hundreds die daily and many celebrate buying new cars?
He so merciful and omni-knowing yet afflicted his people with so many evils?
He's so merciful yet genocidal?
I could keep listing the evils done by ya god.....

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Nobody: 1:12pm On Apr 03, 2017
the belive of God is what exist in everyhuman mind, the rate at wish you belive may varied.even among those who called themselves athiest..

supposing you are sitting beside an atheist in a flight and suddenly the pilot detect a serious engine fault which will cause an unaffordable plane cratch.i bet you in this situation the athiest will testify fully that there is God without objection
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by neocortex: 1:15pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
As someone who is irreligious i don't support this. We are not different from the religious institutions we condemn if we do this. We don't need a union or anything, In fact they is no "WE". The whole essence of being an Atheist is to be rational, To be logical, To be a freethinker. We don't need anyone to think for us not even fellow atheists. A science organization should petition the Medical society not the atheist. Soon the so called Atheist society would be marred in Bureaucracy typical Nigerian fashion, The higher ups would be honour and revere like pastors or religious leaders, The rest of the atheists will have no choice but to accept whatever decision the higher ups make. They would be seen as the representation of atheism in Nigeria. And then a new religion would be born, all what we have condemn. But all in all this is progress, only in the wrong manner.

I used to think like this before, maybe this is your point of view as an atheist but not all atheists should have the same point of view. Eradicating religion isn't our goal, Not mine at least.

There is nothing wrong with registering a society as there is no "manual" for
how atheists should conduct themselves.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by aribisala0(m): 1:16pm On Apr 03, 2017
Craigston:
On what grounds was the MDCN petitioned? It's disappointing that their first move would be this. OP ebusfav, tell us what the petition entails, if you have information on that.
You don't knw the content of the petition but say it is disappointing
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by monex(m): 1:18pm On Apr 03, 2017
MrEgbegbe:
God doesn't exist

He created Adam and Eve which were the first people ever created, Adam and Eve had children, their children had children, the children must have had sex with their mother and sisters

Another super story, a virgin got impregnated by a holy spirit, hahahahahahha

We have been waiting for the coming of the Lord Jesus for [b]1 million years now
and he's still busy arranging for the flight that will take him to earth

If you don't believe in God, you will go to hell fire, what kind of fire is in there ?? It has been flaming for 6 million years now non stop and the people in it haven't turned to ashes ??

God loves his children, meanwhile he's sitting in his chair made of diamonds and gold and his children are on earth dying of starvation


Go tell that stupid story to primary school kids [/b]

just over 2 thousand years - if you mean the second coming
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by winj: 1:20pm On Apr 03, 2017
MrEgbegbe:
God doesn't exist

He created Adam and Eve which were the first people ever created, Adam and Eve had children, their children had children, the children must have had sex with their mother and sisters

Another super story, a virgin got impregnated by a holy spirit, hahahahahahha

We have been waiting for the coming of the Lord Jesus for 1 million years now and he's still busy arranging for the flight that will take him to earth

If you don't believe in God, you will go to hell fire, what kind of fire is in there ?? It has been flaming for 6 million years now non stop and the people in it haven't turned to ashes ??

God loves his children, meanwhile he's sitting in his chair made of diamonds and gold and his children are on earth dying of starvation


Go tell that stupid story to primary school kids

If half of Nigerians are mentally intelligent enough to understand the logic of this, the country will be nearly out of mental and religious slavery!

But since 99% of Nigerians lack commonsense, it will take a long time - in the meantime they will continue to buy jets for pastors and imams, they will continue to use their brains less for science and practical development, and more on securing the fake-afterlife!

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by saccie1162: 1:22pm On Apr 03, 2017
according to P.Square d game is over
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by aribisala0(m): 1:26pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
As someone who is irreligious i don't support this. We are not different from the religious institutions we condemn if we do this. We don't need a union or anything, In fact they is no "WE". The whole essence of being an Atheist is to be rational, To be logical, To be a freethinker. We don't need anyone to think for us not even fellow atheists. A science organization should petition the Medical society not the atheist. Soon the so called Atheist society would be marred in Bureaucracy typical Nigerian fashion, The higher ups would be honour and revere like pastors or religious leaders, The rest of the atheists will have no choice but to accept whatever decision the higher ups make. They would be seen as the representation of atheism in Nigeria. And then a new religion would be born, all what we have condemn. But all in all this is progress, only in the wrong manner.

I used to think like this before, maybe this is your point of view as an atheist but not all atheists should have the same point of view. Eradicating religion isn't our goal, Not mine at least.

You are struggling with logic. First you say there is no we having started off with several "wes" and continuuing with the same.
There may be no "we" that includes you but there is a them that have a need for such a body. There is nothing to say they speak for all all atheists but they speak for some.

One of the things I would like to see happen quite soon is an equal number of public holidays for atheists and I am sure that there will be many interesting court cases ahead challenging the constitutionality of the de facto officiality of Christianity and Islam in Nigeria.
Certainly people need protection fro the tyranny of the big two and with such a body people will exxpress more publicly their opposition to the enforced religiosity in our public life.

So eradicating religion is not the goal but pursuin true secularity i.e separation of state from religion. We shouuld expect more challenges to funding for Hajj and such like . Let their be religion but it should not be publicly funded or if it is then similar funding and priileges must go to those who do not believe

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by Idrismusty97(m): 1:47pm On Apr 03, 2017
aribisala0:


You are struggling with logic. First you say there is no we having started off with several "wes" and continuuing with the same.
There may be no "we" that includes you but there is a them that have a need for such a body. There is nothing to say they speak for all all atheists but they speak for some.

One of the things I would like to see happen quite soon is an equal number of public holidays for atheists and I am sure that there will be many interesting court cases ahead challenging the constitutionality of the de facto officiality of Christianity and Islam in Nigeria.
Certainly people need protection fro the tyranny of the big two and with such a body people will exxpress more publicly their opposition to the enforced religiosity in our public life.

So eradicating religion is not the goal but pursuin true secularity i.e separation of state from religion. We shouuld expect more challenges to funding for Hajj and such like . Let their be religion but it should not be publicly funded or if it is then similar funding and priileges must go to those who do not believe

Well i agree with you to an extent. But we can't keep demanding for pointless things just because the religious people have the privileges. What do we need holidays for? And i agree with the funding part, religious activities should be privately funded.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by aribisala0(m): 1:52pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
Well i agree with you to an extent. But we can't keep demanding for pointless things just because the religious people have the privileges. What do we need holidays for? And i agree with the funding part, religious activities should be privately funded.
There you go again ,who is we? It is not pointless to me otherwise I would not mention it undecided.

I want to have public holidays that are relevant TO ME not based on moo sighting and such like.

The vision would be quite simple if you work for the Federal Government you would be entitled to X number of public holiday breaks in a year and you can use the how you like I do not see why Christians should stop working on Muslim Holidays ad vice versa. In fact as a Christian you could choose to use Your public holidays another time.So the point is to force governmennt to think of the cost of so many public holidays and strealine them keeping governmen running all through the year.
Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by spacyzuma(m): 1:55pm On Apr 03, 2017
Idrismusty97:
As someone who is irreligious i don't support this. We are not different from the religious institutions we condemn if we do this. We don't need a union or anything, In fact they is no "WE". The whole essence of being an Atheist is to be rational, To be logical, To be a freethinker. We don't need anyone to think for us not even fellow atheists. A science organization should petition the Medical society not the atheist. Soon the so called Atheist society would be marred in Bureaucracy typical Nigerian fashion, The higher ups would be honour and revere like pastors or religious leaders, The rest of the atheists will have no choice but to accept whatever decision the higher ups make. They would be seen as the representation of atheism in Nigeria. And then a new religion would be born, all what we have condemn. But all in all this is progress, only in the wrong manner.

I support you in this.

I'm an atheist too, but I believe this ASN is just an avenue for a few power-hungry atheists to have more power/influence over other atheists. This organization will be his/their voice to get attention and cause more conflict. This is not different from when someone declares God/Jesus spoke to him/her and starts a church and gathers followers. It's all a quest for power and control.
There is a radical, outspoken atheist on twitter that I used to follow until he blocked me. I will not be surprised if he's the main person (or one of the people) behind this ASN.

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Re: Atheist Society Of Nigeria Registers As A Corporate Body, Petitions MDCN by coolsegun2002: 1:56pm On Apr 03, 2017
Some dude just sat somewhere...racked his brain and realised a cheap money making venture by creating an association for atheist. You guys should go and register....

Happy payment of monthly and yearly dues in advance....

My atheist friend doesn't believe in God cos he insults God and he never respond in addition every story about God isn't logical. But the foool somehow believes in the forces of darkness his ex-girlfriend used in jazzing him for jolting the babe after 7yrs of dating...

I really don't get how pple fear and consider the possibility of dark forces/powers but don't believe there's a corresponding opposite force....as for me...I would rather graduate with a first class or 2:1 than assume grades doesn't matter and all jobs are gotten with connections.

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