OLAADEGBU:


You mean Catholics have given their lives to their traditional religion? It is unfortunate that religion does not save only Jesus does.

The traditional religion also compiled your bible. You must also be a pagan.

Ubenedictus:


The traditional religion also compiled your bible. You must also be a pagan.

Jesus says to you: Let My people go!

Ubenedictus:
lol.
After they condemn it they now practice it.

as someone born into assemblies of god, Oyakhilome must have condemned the sacrament of penance. His members who now agree with him must ave argued that with you catholics before. Even now, some of his members who read that edition of rhapsody of realities and have forgotten what they read there, would still argue withh you catholics.

Ubenedictus:
lol.
After they condemn it they now practice it.

it is only a matter of time before the pentecostals agree that just because a thing is not written explicitly in the bible, doesn't mean you cannot take it. And that the the bible itself is a product of oral tradition as can clearly be seen from the first 4 verses of the gospel of Luke.

OLAADEGBU:

Jesus says to you: Let My people go!

Jesus says: feed my sheep.

Ubenedictus:
do you know any catholic who claims to worship images Or are you just arguing with yourself.?

Yes I know many of them

asuustrike2009:

Yes I know many of them

can you please invite those catholics who told you they worship images to nairaland?

Ubenedictus:
can you please invite those catholics who told you they worship images to nairaland?

They don't like the forum at all so it would be difficult to invite them

asuustrike2009:

They don't like the forum at all so it would be difficult to invite them

kevoh:

OK you would see the idol worshippers soon on this thread

asuustrike2009:

They don't like the forum at all so it would be difficult to invite them

since you cant produce them I'll assume they are imaginary, if they aren't then they clearly are largely misinformed Catholics, as no knowledgeable Catholic will be silly enough to worship images. In fact the worship of images is condemned in catholicism as gravely sinful and immoral.

Ubenedictus:
since you cant produce them i'll assume they are imaginary, if they arent then they clearly are largely misinformed Catholics as no knowledgeable Catholic will be silly enough to worship images. Infact the worship of images is condemned in catholicism as gravely sinful and immoral.

The pictures below speaks better

kevoh:

Some idol worshippers in Nigeria

asuustrike2009:

The pictures below speaks better

not really

You pictures only shows people kneeling and bowing in front of an images, i can show you pictures of pastors kneeling and bowing in front of their bibles, are they worshiping the bibles? You need to ask them to know that. So i ask you again to produce the Catholics who told you they worship images.

Your pictures don't say shit.

Ubenedictus:
not reject.

You pictures only shows people kneeling and bowing in front of an images, i can show you pictures of paste kneeling and bowing in front of their bibles, are they worshiping the bibles? You need to ask them to know that. So i ask you again to produce the Catholics who told you they worship images.

Your pictures don't say shit.

They are here already. They are viewing the thread

asuustrike2009:

Some idol worshippers in Nigeria

Here are some more Idol worshippers in nigeria.

[img]http://yemitom.files./2011/10/girl-kneeling-and-boy-prostrating-for-a-woman2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://yemitom.files./2011/10/groom-anad-his-friends-greeting-the-brides-family-and-receiving-their-blessings2.jpg[/img]

asuustrike2009:
They are here already. They are viewing the thread

still waiting

PastorAIO:


Here are some more Idol worshippers in nigeria.

[img]http://yemitom.files./2011/10/girl-kneeling-and-boy-prostrating-for-a-woman2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://yemitom.files./2011/10/groom-anad-his-friends-greeting-the-brides-family-and-receiving-their-blessings2.jpg[/img]

hehehe

We are all idol worshippers finally.

OLAADEGBU:


Jesus did not come to preach religion, He came to seek and to save those that are lost, wherever they may be.

religion
noun
1. the belief in and worship of a
superhuman controlling power,
especially a personal God




Jesus came to preach a religion, it is called Christianity.

Ubenedictus:
not really

You pictures only shows people kneeling and bowing in front of an images, i can show you pictures of pastors kneeling and bowing in front of their bibles, are they worshiping the bibles? You need to ask them to know that. So i ask you again to produce the Catholics who told you they worship images.

Your pictures don't say shit.

I was a Catholic so I knew some of these things before leaving Catholic. Always making reverence to Mary at all times ,"hail Mary "," Queen of heaven "

asuustrike2009:

I was a Catholic so I knew some of these things before leaving Catholic. Always making reverence to Mary at all times ,"hail Mary "," Queen of heaven "

yeah right. You knew shit. If not you won't be presenting pictures of people venerating an image as proof of idol worship.

A lot of times, we've complained about the use of social media in turning our generation into something perverted. But as Christians what are we doing about this. God is not the one handling social media, we are and if He is going to do anything on it, He has to use us. Instead of complaining, the question is what are we doing about it?

Please join me to lift Jesus high on the 27th of August as we tell of the greatness of the One who died for us and things He has done for us on twitter with the hashtag - JesusReigns (#JesusReigns). You never can tell, your testimony might just all a life needs to get that healing or deliverance or salvation.


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Geist:
yeah right. You knew shit. If not you won't be presenting pictures of people venerating an image as proof of idol worship.

Catholics worship Mary like God.I pity those idolaters that have refuse to change even when the evidence is starring at their faces. Here are facts to prove they worship idol
an Idolater is a devoted admirer of idols but what does the Bible say about images and idols?

1. Exodus 20:4-5
“Thou shalt not MAKE unto thee ANY graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not BOW DOWN thyself to them Nor SERVE them.”

Do Catholics MAKE graven images? Yes.
Do Catholics KNEEL down to statues of Mary or Jesus? Yes.
Do Catholics SERVE Mary? Yes, as in “Legion of Mary.”
Do Catholics BOW DOWN and kiss the foot of the pagan god Jupiter which was renamed St Peter? Yes.

2. Leviticus 26:1
“You shall make you NO IDOLS nor GRAVEN IMAGE. Neither rear you up a STANDING IMAGE. Neither shall ye set up any IMAGE OF STONE in your land to bow down unto it.”

Do Catholics rear up STANDING IMAGES? Yes.
Do Catholics set up any IMAGE OF STONE? Yes.

3. Deuteronomy 4:16
“Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and MAKE you a GRAVEN IMAGE, the similitude of ANY FIGURE, the likeness of MALE or FEMALE.”

Do Catholics make graven images of MALE or FEMALE? Yes. Mary is a female. Jesus and the apostles are males.

4. Deuteronomy 16:22
“Neither shalt thou SET thee UP ANY IMAGE: which the Lord thy God HATES.”

Do Catholics SET UP ANY IMAGES? Yes.
Does God HATE IMAGES? Yes.

5. 1 Thessalonians 1:9
“How ye turned to God FROM IDOLS to serve the living and true God.”

Did the early Christians turn FROM IDOLS? Yes.

6. Deuteronomy 27:15
“CURSED be the man that MAKES ANY GRAVEN or MOLTEN IMAGE, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place.”

Does God put a curse on any person that makes any image? Yes.
Why does God call an image an ABOMINATION? Because He hates it.

7. The early Christians had NO IMAGES
Early Christian writers such as Irenaeus, Clement, Cyprian, Athanasius and Jerome wrote strongly AGAINST images, statues and any manner of prayer or veneration regarding them. The Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. voted unanimously to remove all images from the Churches.

8. The Catholic Church removes the second Commandment against MAKING graven images from the list of the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20:1-17. This presents them with the problem of only having 9 Commandments. They resolve this problem by splitting Commandment number 10 into 9 and 10. That is: 9. You shall not covet your neighbour's wife. 10. You shall not covet your neighbour's goods. The following is seen in the book “A brief summary of the Ten Commandments” by the Daughters of St. Paul, p.12, 13:

WHAT ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD?
The Commandments of God are these ten:
“I am the Lord your God:
1. You shall not have strange Gods before me.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.
4. Honor your father and your mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
9. You shall not covet your neighbour's wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbour's goods.” Exodus 20:1-17

The number Two Commandment should be “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.” Exodus 20:4. Check your Catechism to see if they have left it out.
9. Every Catholic institution has images of Mary, Jesus and male and female figures. An example of this are two statues at the French Papal Palace of Avignon, one of Jesus about 20 metres above ground level, and the other is an enormous statue of Mary, much larger, grander and higher up than that of Jesus. This gives the greater honour to Mary than Jesus. It also breaks the second Commandment forbidding making images of things in heaven.

Who do we believe, the Word of God or the Catholic Church? “We ought to obey God, rather than men.” Acts 5:29

PastorAIO:


Here are some more Idol worshippers in nigeria.

[img]http://yemitom.files./2011/10/girl-kneeling-and-boy-prostrating-for-a-woman2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://yemitom.files./2011/10/groom-anad-his-friends-greeting-the-brides-family-and-receiving-their-blessings2.jpg[/img]

You're so funny. Your case is beyond repair

asuustrike2009:

Catholics worship Mary like God.I pity those idolaters that have refuse to change even when the evidence is starring at their faces. Here are facts to prove they worship idol
an Idolater is a devoted admirer of idols but what does the Bible say about images and idols?

1. Exodus 20:4-5
“Thou shalt not MAKE unto thee ANY graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not BOW DOWN thyself to them Nor SERVE them.”

Do Catholics MAKE graven images? Yes.
Do Catholics KNEEL down to statues of Mary or Jesus? Yes.
Do Catholics SERVE Mary? Yes, as in “Legion of Mary.”
Do Catholics BOW DOWN and kiss the foot of the pagan god Jupiter which was renamed St Peter? Yes.

2. Leviticus 26:1
“You shall make you NO IDOLS nor GRAVEN IMAGE. Neither rear you up a STANDING IMAGE. Neither shall ye set up any IMAGE OF STONE in your land to bow down unto it.”

Do Catholics rear up STANDING IMAGES? Yes.
Do Catholics set up any IMAGE OF STONE? Yes.

3. Deuteronomy 4:16
“Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and MAKE you a GRAVEN IMAGE, the similitude of ANY FIGURE, the likeness of MALE or FEMALE.”

Do Catholics make graven images of MALE or FEMALE? Yes. Mary is a female. Jesus and the apostles are males.

4. Deuteronomy 16:22
“Neither shalt thou SET thee UP ANY IMAGE: which the Lord thy God HATES.”

Do Catholics SET UP ANY IMAGES? Yes.
Does God HATE IMAGES? Yes.

5. 1 Thessalonians 1:9
“How ye turned to God FROM IDOLS to serve the living and true God.”

Did the early Christians turn FROM IDOLS? Yes.

6. Deuteronomy 27:15
“CURSED be the man that MAKES ANY GRAVEN or MOLTEN IMAGE, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place.”

Does God put a curse on any person that makes any image? Yes.
Why does God call an image an ABOMINATION? Because He hates it.

7. The early Christians had NO IMAGES
Early Christian writers such as Irenaeus, Clement, Cyprian, Athanasius and Jerome wrote strongly AGAINST images, statues and any manner of prayer or veneration regarding them. The Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. voted unanimously to remove all images from the Churches.

8. The Catholic Church removes the second Commandment against MAKING graven images from the list of the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20:1-17. This presents them with the problem of only having 9 Commandments. They resolve this problem by splitting Commandment number 10 into 9 and 10. That is: 9. You shall not covet your neighbour's wife. 10. You shall not covet your neighbour's goods. The following is seen in the book “A brief summary of the Ten Commandments” by the Daughters of St. Paul, p.12, 13:

WHAT ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD?
The Commandments of God are these ten:
“I am the Lord your God:
1. You shall not have strange Gods before me.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.
4. Honor your father and your mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
9. You shall not covet your neighbour's wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbour's goods.” Exodus 20:1-17

The number Two Commandment should be “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.” Exodus 20:4. Check your Catechism to see if they have left it out.
9. Every Catholic institution has images of Mary, Jesus and male and female figures. An example of this are two statues at the French Papal Palace of Avignon, one of Jesus about 20 metres above ground level, and the other is an enormous statue of Mary, much larger, grander and higher up than that of Jesus. This gives the greater honour to Mary than Jesus. It also breaks the second Commandment forbidding making images of things in heaven.

Who do we believe, the Word of God or the Catholic Church? “We ought to obey God, rather than men.” Acts 5:29

SMH for you. Despite the fact everyone here is trying to teach, yet you refuse to learn. What is worship to you. Does mere bowing down or venerating an entity to constitute worship to you? I doubt you can properly worship anything as I doubt you know the true meaning of it.

Geist:
SMH for you. Despite the fact everyone here is trying to teach, yet you refuse to learn. What is worship to you. Does mere bowing down or venerating an entity to constitute worship to you? I doubt you can properly worship anything as I doubt you know the true meaning of it.

It doesn't dispute the fact that catholics bow down to idols

asuustrike2009:

The pictures below speaks better

i think the bible says true worshipers are those who do so in truth and in spirit. i didnt hear the bible say true worshipers are those who bow in front of an image

and as for quoting one of the ten commandments: thou shall not make graven image...i think on the INSTRUCTION OF GOD, moses made a 'graven' image, the ark of covenant.

MiddleDimension:


i think the bible says true worshipers are those who do so in truth and in spirit. i didnt hear the bible say true worshipers are those who bow in front of an image

and as for quoting one of the ten commandments: thou shall not make graven image...i think on the INSTRUCTION OF GOD, moses made a 'graven' image, the ark of covenant.

Did Moses bow to the images? Did he worship and honour it?

asuustrike2009:

Did Moses bow to the images? Did he worship and honour it?

6Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his face before the ark of the LORD until the evening, both he and the elders of Israel; and they put dust on their heads.

Joshua 7




6Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces. And the glory of the Lord appeared to them,

Numbers 20

PastorAIO:

6Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his face before the ark of the LORD until the evening, both he and the elders of Israel; and they put dust on their heads.

Joshua 7


6Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces. And the glory of the Lord appeared to them,

Numbers 20

so what do you think about this, asuustrike2009?

Let me just state my identity here. I am an atheist but i understand a bit about christianity. This makes me able to have some opinion on their issues

youngest85:

all this so called Christians and fake pastors who are committed to destroying the Catholic Church. but will never concentrate on the atheist and pagans that full nairaland.

OK kontinu

Ubenedictus:


Jesus says: feed my sheep.

Only shepherds feed sheep not wolves.