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Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by enasgreat: 8:18pm On Apr 14, 2017
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Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by dnawah(m): 8:25pm On Apr 14, 2017
Apple1992:
Its funny when i heard people curse and blame Judas Iscariot, for betraying Jesus christ.

Though am not very good when it comes to scriptural reasoning.

But from what i heard and read from the bible, i believed it was the fulfilment of prophecy.

Remember the bible says, heaven and earth shall pass away , but no iota of my word shall pass way.

So whatever happen i believe, it was designed by God.

So my point now is , i don't think its right blaming Judas, its the fulfilment of prophecy!

no,if no be him,another will do wat he did.thankGOD Jesus died 4 my sins.oh! Am glad am saved.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by doctor306(m): 8:25pm On Apr 14, 2017
Marvel1206:

You used the word 'know', is the word 'compelled' or 'predetermined' or 'predestined'


Now to your second question. And also not quoting the bible.

Anybody on his or her death bed knows he has little time left and would probably repent.

What stops you from repenting and watching your steps while hale and hearty?

U don't understand me argue to understand not to reply
Am done

Logical reasoning would tell you that you should live everyday as it were your last. Or does anybody guarantee you life?
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Nicholas190(m): 8:34pm On Apr 14, 2017
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Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Boleyndynasty2(f): 8:38pm On Apr 14, 2017
bettercreature:
I think it's wrong if its true God actually used him to just to make sure his will come to pass
He let his greed get the better part of him. If anyone actually used him, then its the devil. I wasn't disappointed

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Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Bollinger(m): 8:39pm On Apr 14, 2017
doctor306:
If u believed DAT Judas was destined to betray Jesus then hope you also believed that God knows were we would ho after our death if heaven or hell but my question is since he knows why did he create some of us when he no we wount make heaven
He knows things before they happen then why was Adam and eve punished for disobeying him when he could have averted the whole situation before their creation

You've just explained why there is no God. The whole thing does not make any iota of sense. If i know what will happen before it happens, then why will i let evil befall, lets say, my kids. Especially when i claim i love them so much. Ignorance is the bane of religious people.

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Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by walls01: 8:44pm On Apr 14, 2017
doctor306:
If u believed DAT Judas was destined to betray Jesus then hope you also believed that God knows were we would ho after our death if heaven or hell but my question is since he knows why did he create some of us when he no we wount make heaven
He knows things before they happen then why was Adam and eve punished for disobeying him when he could have averted the whole situation before their creation

because he created man to have free will to choose. if he had force man to not eat the fruit that free will he gave man would have been void
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by bettercreature(m): 8:49pm On Apr 14, 2017
Boleyndynasty2:
He let his greed get the better part of him. If anyone actually used him, then its the devil. I wasn't disappointed
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Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by walls01: 8:52pm On Apr 14, 2017
OgidiOlu3:

This statement is really flawed. How can God make a man a vessel to the devil to carry out His plans? Truth be told, I don't even think anything is predestined. I mean, if everything was, it means we don't have the power to change it and hence, we're faultless. It means evil people are evil because they've been destined to be evil.

that is why there is law. take yourself for example do anyone force you to type what you type? or did anyone force you to believe in God
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Horlufemi(m): 8:54pm On Apr 14, 2017
adepeter26:

OK, am reading. Go on pls

at what probability would you accept? What will be overwhelming for you. So I know I'm not gonna waste my time. 1/1000000 1/100000000?

I'm just gonna use prophecy fulfillment.

I'm waiting.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by femi4: 8:54pm On Apr 14, 2017
Apple1992:
Its funny when i heard people curse and blame Judas Iscariot, for betraying Jesus christ.

Though am not very good when it comes to scriptural reasoning.

But from what i heard and read from the bible, i believed it was the fulfilment of prophecy.

Remember the bible says, heaven and earth shall pass away , but no iota of my word shall pass way.

So whatever happen i believe, it was designed by God.

So my point now is , i don't think its right blaming Judas, its the fulfilment of prophecy!

He made himself available for the fulfilment of the prophecy
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by danyaril2yahoo: 9:00pm On Apr 14, 2017
It's right to blame him,remember he was the person that frown at the woman that pour expensive perfume on Jesus feet.He is a man that love money so much,some thing tells me he was ignorant of the implication of selling his master.#Repent for Jesus christ is coming soon
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by femi4: 9:02pm On Apr 14, 2017
An2elect2:
Then we shouldn't credit Christ for securing our salvation since it was a prophecy too?
He deserved the credit cos he had no replacement. He's the only one without sin that could be sacrifice
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by An2elect2(f): 9:06pm On Apr 14, 2017
femi4:
He deserved the credit cos he had no replacement. He's the only one without sin that could be sacrifice
Lol. If Christ deserves the glory for personally giving himself up, Judas deserves to be punished for personally submitting himself to sin too.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Kay17: 9:07pm On Apr 14, 2017
judedwriter:


God knows everything from the end to the beginning. For example, Enoch prophesied the coming of Jesus even before the birth of Noah! God knew that Judas would intentionally betray Jesus from the beginning.

Jesus actually gave Judas a chance to repent, when He told His disciples that one of them would betray Him. But he didn't. Even after betraying Jesus, Judas didn't seek for mercy-he hanged himself!

But he felt the guilt of betraying his master by returning the gold to the Pharisees and committing suicide. Jesus already being tortured and executed by the time he was ready to plead for forgiveness. So he didn't have the option of forgiveness.

Probably he represents the hopelessness of a sinful life before Jesus because the option of seeking forgiveness in the name of Jesus was absent.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by femi4: 9:13pm On Apr 14, 2017
An2elect2:
Lol. If Christ deserves the glory for personally giving himself up, Judas deserves to be punished for personally submitting himself to sin too.

No...Another person would have done it. Nobody blames peter for denying Jesus three times (In fact, Peter was shocked he did), nobody blames Judas for betraying Jesus.

Peter asked for forgiveness, Judas didn't. Commiting suicide wasn't part of the prophecy. Judas took his life, hence no credit
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by An2elect2(f): 9:18pm On Apr 14, 2017
femi4:
No...Another person would have done it. Nobody blames peter for denying Jesus three times, nobody blames Judas for betraying Jesus.

Peter asked for forgiveness, Judas didn't. Commiting suicide wasn't part of the prophecy. Judas took his life, hence no credit
You mean no specific person was ordained to betrayJesus?
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Goodnuel: 9:21pm On Apr 14, 2017
zionmade:
Judas was not DESTINED BY GOD TO BETRAY JESUS.
Judas wasnt afraid to steal from Jesus and dat opened him to be used by d devil.
There was no prophesy about betrayal of Jesus until Jesus said so. And Jesus made his first statement about Judas wen he acknowledged dat Judas was a thief before he prophesied dat judas would betray him.
Assuming something bad has to happen to an evil man, God would never use a righteous man to execute it, he would make another evil man a vessel to d devil to carry out his plans.
Dat is why we shouldn't make ourselves available for devil to use
Didn't Christ know he was a thief before he picked him as a disciple??
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by femi4: 9:22pm On Apr 14, 2017
An2elect2:
You mean no specific person was ordained to betrayJesus?
yes....read the scripture now. Judas name wasnt mention in the Prophecy.

Not until Jesus said to him that "Whatever you want to do, do it quickly". That was when the picture was clear.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by zionmade(m): 9:25pm On Apr 14, 2017
Goodnuel:
Didn't Christ know he was a thief before he picked him as a disciple??
He had no record of stealing before Christ chose him. Or do u have any reference dat Judas was a thief before he became a disciple
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by An2elect2(f): 9:26pm On Apr 14, 2017
femi4:
yes....read the scripture now. Judas name wasnt mention in the Prophecy.

Not until Jesus said to him that "Whatever you want to do, do it quickly". That was when the picture was clear.
Lol it's like saying Paul wasn't ordained to preach the gospel because his name wasn't mentioned in any prophecy

Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Bakrabas: 9:30pm On Apr 14, 2017
Lol bro...

If you want to confuse yourself just make the death of Judas as your case study. According to the Bible you can't understand what killed Judas. Some verses acclaimed that he hanged himself another said he dead on the land he bought (Matt. 19 vs 16)

A lot of confusions passages are there in the Bible

TosineGuy:
The only mistake Judas made was that he hanged himself. If not, he would have meet Jesus at d cross for forgiveness and Jesus would have forgiven him and that would have made christianity more popular. It was written that Judas must betray Jesus. But not to hang himself. Suicide is not d best in any situation u find ursef in.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by femi4: 9:31pm On Apr 14, 2017
An2elect2:
Lol it's like saying Paul wasn't ordained to preach the gospel because his name wasn't mentioned in any prophecy

Did Jesus restrict preaching to the twelve?
Did you know that 120 people were in the upper room.

Read the scripture and ask more intelligent question
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Nobody: 9:32pm On Apr 14, 2017
judedwriter:


God knows everything from the end to the beginning. For example, Enoch prophesied the coming of Jesus even before the birth of Noah! God knew that Judas would intentionally betray Jesus from the beginning.

Jesus actually gave Judas a chance to repent, when He told His disciples that one of them would betray Him. But he didn't. Even after betraying Jesus, Judas didn't seek for mercy-he hanged himself!
But god already knows he won't take the chance to repent, he won't seek mercy, and he would hang himself, so??
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Elle277(f): 9:33pm On Apr 14, 2017
its a prophecy that must be fulfilled but it better not be me!
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Goodnuel: 9:36pm On Apr 14, 2017
zionmade:

He had no record of stealing before Christ chose him. Or do u have any reference dat Judas was a thief before he became a disciple
I mean, befire we were born, God(Christ)knows/knew us.. What we are, what we would be.. So he said to Jeremiah.. And u also stated that Jesus acknowledged Judas to be a thief.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by An2elect2(f): 9:37pm On Apr 14, 2017
femi4:
Did Jesus restrict preaching to the twelve?
Did you know that 120 people were in the upper room.

Read the scripture and asked more intelligent question
You must really think so little of God. You must think everything that happens is outside His will.

I guess you think somethings like "fate" and "luck" are the ultimate determiners of our lives
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by laoma15(m): 9:37pm On Apr 14, 2017
Judas Iscariot is already in Heaven. He repented at the end. Beside, it was part og the perfect plan of God for Judas to take part in the betrayal and subsequent crucifixion of Christ.

Judas was an Innocent man until Jesus dipped the bread into the wine and gave it to Judas. Immediately, the devil took hold of him.

Don't forget that it was God that created the devil. (Isaiah 45 vs 7) God created both good and evil and He uses them as situation warrants.

Judas was Jesus closest pal. People should open their mind and receive fresh inspiration from God directly. Bible is a Summarized word of God. If you need perfect understanding of the Scriptures, God Himself will speak to you through your mind. God is in your heart.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by An2elect2(f): 9:40pm On Apr 14, 2017
Goodnuel:
I mean, befire we were born, God(Christ)knows/knew us.. What we are, what we would be.. So he said to Jeremiah.. And u also stated that Jesus acknowledged Judas to be a thief.
God foreknows because He predetermined. How else would God know a thing before hand if it was not His doing grin
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by femi4: 9:42pm On Apr 14, 2017
An2elect2:
You must really think so little of God. You must think everything that happens is outside His will.

I guess you think somethings like "fate" and "luck" are the ultimate determiners of our lives
Support your claims with scriptures.

You are the one who don't understand how God operates.

The harlot by faith walked into the Prophecy. She wasn't in the original plan.

Heb 11:31
By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by TosineGuy(m): 9:43pm On Apr 14, 2017
Bakrabas:
Lol bro...

If you want to confuse yourself just make the death of Judas as your case study. According to the Bible you can't understand what killed Judas. Some verses acclaimed that he hanged himself another said he dead on the land he bought (Matt. 19 vs 16)

A lot of confusions passages are there in the Bible

u are the confused one here bro. Mix them together, u will find out dat He hanged himself on d land he bought solves the whole thing. Ask yourself, why didn't peter kill himself?
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Nobody: 9:51pm On Apr 14, 2017
Horlufemi:


at what probability would you accept? What will be overwhelming for you. So I know I'm not gonna waste my time. 1/1000000 1/100000000?

I'm just gonna use prophecy fulfillment.

I'm waiting.
LOL.... Probability is 1

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