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Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Nobody: 4:39am On Jan 06, 2010
bolanleodu:

Nairaland is a very dangerous place only the strong at heart should come here,

true but why do you say that?
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by haronky7: 5:00am On Jan 06, 2010
@yeyeruzi

You are correct, terrorism is terrorism if engaged in for any cause. It is wrong for any group to resort to violence in order to make their opinion known, and even more sadistic and devilish for a group to resort to killing in the name of any god.

Don't get me wrong here. I have not said I support violence in Niger delta (or anywhere else in Nigeria), and of course those people already have been branded terrorists all along.

The point I'm making here is our terrorism reached international status because of the action of one Yemeni-trained rich man's son who left the shores of Nigeria to want to go blow up himself in Detroit all in the name of Jihad, and that now officially and worldwide, we are a terrorist country, with negative impact on all Nigerians, including you.

Before Niger delta palaver which arose out of frustration of marginalisation, there have been religious riots and killings, which is still on-going in Bauchi. Common, lets face it, this has been a perrenial problem that really need to be sincerely and openly addressed. Look at the wider picture, not just because you are defending any religiion. I rest my case.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by yoruba: 8:16am On Jan 06, 2010
@Topic
I would also do the same if i was British.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Kaystick(m): 8:45am On Jan 06, 2010
is really painfull that this stuff is happening to us in this particular time that we have ne government or president,everyday i wake am always sad about this development,its really painfull as even my family out there in london is affectedby this stupid reasoning of the united states and in this case they are the one to be blamed as the father of this guy tried as much as possible to prevent this senerio,from american embassy to yemen embassy trying to prevent his son.now the whole black community is suffering from it
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by adebayo111: 9:14am On Jan 06, 2010
Terrorism is terrorism. The niger delta militias are holding us to a ransome for a purpose, umar wanted to blow up a plane for a purpose. And i believed this purpose was not because the people in the plane refused to convert to islam. I do not av a job for 3yrs yet i didnt go into robbery or other vices, its a matter of what u want to be or do. Religion doesnt av a hand in it.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by adebayo111: 9:41am On Jan 06, 2010
What i am doing is not to defend any religion or accuse any religion.
This suicide bombings and terrorism are political and not religious. It will only be religion when people are killed for refusing to convert to another religion.
I will explain why they are political later
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by adebayo111: 9:42am On Jan 06, 2010
What i am doing is not to defend any religion or accuse any religion.
This suicide bombings and terrorism are political and not religious. It will only be religion when people are killed for refusing to convert to another religion.
I will explain why they are political later
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by sayso: 9:54am On Jan 06, 2010
bros na 3 times you dey post ,no be by force.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by yeyeruzi: 10:03am On Jan 06, 2010
@adebayo111
No Religion preaches hatred or killing of the innocent-- not even Islam but religious leaders do bend the words of the scriptures and you can't fully blame anyone for saying Religion has a hand in it.

KKK (klu klux klan) is a terrorist christian organization which had existed before any known Islamic terrorist came on the scene. Does the bible preach terrorism --NO. But the kkk say they kill for God but we know it is for their selfish interest (but many of their followers don't see it that way).

A sick leader would first spark hatred in hearts of his followers then mix and twist the scriptures to say God want them to kill and this could be powerful. So powerful a religious leader can test its powers by saying a followers mother is a witch and families are destroyed.

Faith is a strong thing and have seen unsuspecting con artists as leaders can easily trick poor souls to even kill for God,oh my.

So I agree with you that this is more political than religious but may can't see it that way
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by richpitt(m): 10:34am On Jan 06, 2010
I strongly disagree with everybody who has been blaming Islam for this unlawful act of Mutallab. If citizens of Nigerian itself are already blaming a single act of One boy on all Muslims (over 150million people) all over the world why would you blame the Americans or the UK embassy for calling over 150million Nigerians terrorist because of One citizen??

Please read this

Evidence Mounts For U.s.,israeli Complicity In Mutallabs Terrorism
« on: January 02, 2010, 08:31 PM »
________________________________________
COULD TERROR WAR BE RESPONSE BY GOP AND ISRAEL AGAINST THREATS TO THEIR GLOBAL PLANS?

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

(STORY CONTINUALLY UPDATING WITH BREAKING NEWS!)

When nothing adds up, its time we starting looking at what we know. Our recent terrorist, now dubbed "the crotch bomber" is another dupe. He could have been working for anyone, drugged, brainwashed or simply influenced, maybe by crazy Arabs, maybe by the Mossad, maybe by the CIA. We only know the game is falling apart.

We do know a couple of things. Dad, back in Nigeria, ran the national arms industry (DICON) in partnership with Israel, in particular, the Mossad. He was in daily contact with them. They run everything in Nigeria, from arms production to counter-terrorism. Though Islamic, Muttalab was a close associate of Israel. He has been misrepresented. His "banking" is a cover. Next, what do we know about the two Al Qaeda leaders Bush had released, the ones who planned this?

According to ABC news, the Al Qaeda leaders running the insurgency in Yemen were released from Guantanamo, although two of the highest ranking known terrorist there, without trial.

Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody.

Both of the former Guantanamo detainees are described as military commanders and appear on a January, 2009 video along with the man described as the top leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, Abu Basir Naser al-Wahishi, formerly Osama bin Laden's personal secretary.

With all the hoopla about trials in New York, not a word is said when top level terrorists are released to Saudi friends of the Bush family who let them go. We are now fighting these two Bush friends in Yemen. They are running a major insurgency there. We have been using Cruise missiles and our jets to attack their bases in the last weeks.

CBS NEWS LEARNS CIA HAD ADVANCE INFORMATION ON DETROIT TERRORIST

CBS News has learned that as early as August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed "The Nigerian," suspected of meeting with "terrorist elements" in Yemen.

Sources tell CBS News "The Nigerian" has now turned out to be Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. But that connection was not made when Abudulmutallab's father went to the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria three months later, on November 19, 2009. It was then he expressed deep concerns to a CIA officer about his son's ties to extremists in Yemen, a hotbed of al Qaeda activity.

THE CIA OFFICIAL STATEMENT

CIA admits broad information during the November interview, information not acted on in any responsible way but failed to understand that the terrorist they were warned of in November was the one they had been tracking since August.

"We learned of him in November, when his father came to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria and sought help in finding him. We did not have his name before then," said Paul Gimigliano, a CIA spokesman. "Also in November, we worked with the embassy to ensure he was in the government's terrorist database - including mention of his possible extremist connections in Yemen. We also forwarded key biographical information about him to the National Counterterrorism Center.

CIA, ISRAEL AND YEMEN

It is claimed by groups claiming to be Al Qaeda in Yemen that the Detroit attack was in retaliation to US attacks on bases in Yemen run by Al Qaeda leaders released by Bush.

The government of Yemen, as reported in the BBC , says that the Al Qaeda terrorists, led by those released by Bush, are really Israeli agents though they have organized attacks against US targets:

Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence. Mr Saleh did not say what evidence had been found to show the group's links with Israel, a regional enemy of Yemen. The arrests were connected with an attack on the US embassy in Sanaa last month which killed at least 18 people, official sources were quoted saying.

"A terrorist cell was arrested and will be referred to the judicial authorities for its links with the Israeli intelligence services," Mr Saleh told a gathering at al-Mukalla University in Hadramawt province. "Details of the trial will be announced later. You will hear about what goes on in the proceedings," he added.

The 17 September attack was the second to target the US embassy since April. Militants detonated car bombs before firing rockets at the heavily fortified building.

Mr Saleh did not identify the suspects, but official sources were quoted saying it was same cell - led by a militant called Abu al-Ghaith al-Yamani - whose arrest was announced a week after the attack.

With continual reports from Pakistan that India and Israel have been involved in terrorst attacks against US supporters there and the recent reports that the Detroit bomber was assisted by an Indian while boarding in Amsterdam and partially confirmed reports that a second bomber, an Indian, was arrested and taken from the plane in Detroit. MILive broke this story in the US which originated with Reuters:

Reuters reports Dutch military police are investigating claims that an accomplice may have helped Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab board Northwest Flight 253 in Amsterdam on Christmas day without a passport.

Kurt Haskell of Newport, Mich., took to the comments section of this Web site early Saturday to share his story: That he and his wife, Lori, saw a well-dressed man help Abdulmutallab board the flight without a passport under the guise he was a Sudanese refugee. The military police have already said Abdulmutallab did not go through passport control at Schiphol when he arrived from Lagos.

In another interview on Inside Edition, Haskell described what happened:

A passenger has come forward with disturbing new details about the plot to bring down a jet, including the astonishing claim that the accused terrorist was able to board the plane without a passport.

Kurt Haskell showed INSIDE EDITION his boarding pass for Northwest flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit. The lawyer, who lives outside Detroit, was returning home from an African safari when he says he saw the terror suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallabm, and another man, who he thought was Indian, approach the ticket agent.

"Only the Indian man spoke," says Haskell, "And what he said was, 'This man needs to board the plane but he doesn't have a passport.' "

"His clothes were like jeans and a t-shirt or something, he looked kind of thin, like a 16-year-old teenager, and the other man, looked like he was 50 years old, looked like he was a wealthy, Indian man. I just couldn't figure out why they were together," Haskell tells INSIDE EDITION.


An earlier CBS news report today stated:

CBS News has learned the State Department system designed to keep track of active U.S. visas twice failed to reveal Nigerian terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab had been issued an active visa allowing him multiple entries into the United States.

According to a law enforcement source, the first failure came on Nov. 19, 2009, the very same day Abdulmutallab father’s, Dr. Umaru Mutallab, a prominent banking official in Nigeria, expressed deep concern to officials at the U.S. Embassy in Abjua, Nigeria, that his 23-year-old son had fallen under the influence of "religious extremists" in Yemen.

The second failure to flag an active visa belonging to Abdulmuttalab occurred the very next day in Washington, after Mutallab's concerns were forwarded to officials there. It was only after the Christmas Day terror attack in Detroit that U.S. officials learned that Abdulmuttalab had been issued a visa by the U.S. Embassy in London valid from June 16, 2008, through June 12, 2010. ,

Thus, in another set of coincidences, the system put in place after 9/11, meant to prevent the misuse of student visas for terrorist acts, single, Islamic engineering students tied to religious extremists being a risk factor in that area, failed totally.

Picture the November 19 interview. A poor taxi driver comes to the US embassy: "My son, he is hanging around with a rough crowd. He says he wants to blow something up!"

No, wait, that was someone else. Picture the November 19 interview. One of the richest people in the world, head of a major bank, cabinet minister, head of the national armaments industry, close associate of the US Ambassador and someone known around the world makes an appointment to come to the US embassy.

He wouldn't have met a clerk. The US Ambassador himself would have arranged for the highest ranking officer in the embassy hold the interview. Mr. Muttalab would have been greeted by the ambassador when he came to the embassy.

MUTALLAH MEETS WITH CIA CHIEF OF STATION IN NIGERIA, NOVEMBER 19

We have confirmed that Mutallah met with the CIA chief of station in Nigeria.

Imagine this person of great power and influence, with friends at the highest levels of the CIA and Mossad. When he came to announce his son may be a terrorist, he was a loving father asking for help? He would have made this points:

My son is a danger to himself and others, please keep him safe
Do not allow my son to travel to the United States under any imaginable circumstances as he is likely to be involved in acts of terrorism
Please assure me that you will act immediately and contact me as to what measures you have taken
Were any of this true, this is what would have been said. Were any of what we have been told true, none of what we saw in Detroit could have happened. What we know is that something very different than this really happened. Go ahead and Google "muttalab, nigeria, bank, mossad, defense"



Let's look at the Wayne Marsden report on the failures at the airport in Amsterdam along with direct ties between this case and the shoe bomber Richard Reid:


The Mutallab case also resembles that of another
attempted plane bombing, that of the hapless "shoe bomber" Richard
Reid.

It has also been revealed that Mutallab is the son of Alhaji Umaru
Mutallab, the former chairman of First Bank of Nigeria. According to
This Day of Lagos, the elder Mutallab claims he reported the
extremist views of his son to Nigerian security agencies, as well as
to the U.S. embassy in Abuja, yet no attempt was made to prevent the
radically-inclined Nigerian student to board the plane in Schiphol.
The attempted plane bomber was schooled at the British International
School in Lome, Togo and attended college in London and moved to
Egypt and Dubai. The elder Mutallab is a frequent visitor to the
United States and he is married to a Yemeni woman. ,

Marsden points out the well established family ties to Yemen thru his wife. He further points out how Israel managed to bring the terrorist son of Mutallab through multiple airport security obstacles with the same ease the United States shephered a known terrorist through a visa process. What we hadn't seen is how much this process had been tested during the "shoe bomber" episode.

For a number of years, passengers at Schiphol flying to the United
States have been subjected to intense grilling by security personnel
linked to an Israeli firm.

US bound passengers at Schiphol are asked a number of personal questions, including where
they have stayed either in the Netherlands or in their country of
origin. Hotel receipts are routinely requested by security personnel
and the addresses of private temporary residences are recorded.
Mutallab boarded a KLM flight in Lagos for Schiphol where he
transited for his onward flight to Detroit on Northwest/Delta.

Six months prior to Reid's near shoe bombing of American Airlines
flight 63 from Paris to Miami in December 2001, while memories of
9/11 were still fresh in everyone's mind, Reid attempted to board an
El Al flight from Schiphol to Tel Aviv.

Reid was taken aside by El Al
security and identified as a terrorist suspect. Reid paid for a
one-way ticket with cash and would not reveal what he planned to do
in Israel.

However, rather than turning Reid into Dutch security for
further action, he was allowed to board the El Al flight by Israel's
Shin Bet security so his movements during his five days in Israel
could be monitored.

Six months later, Reid attempted to ignite his
shoe on the flight from Paris to Miami. Israel had not informed
British, American, or any other security agency of the concerns about
Reid. Reid's aunt, Claudette Lewis who raised Reid in south London,
was quoted as saying she believed her nephew had been "brainwashed."

Reid later said El Al failed to detect that he had explosives in his
shoes on the flight to Tel Aviv, an amazing revelation considering
the Israeli airline's tight security.
,
The links between El Al security and Mossad are extremely close with
abundant cross-pollination of senior personnel back and forth.

The security company that allowed Reid to board American Airlines 63
at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris was ICTS (International
Consultants on Targeted Security) International. ICTS's senior
management are all ex-Israeli security officials, many of whom worked
for El Al security.

It was ICTS that largely developed the passenger "profiling"
procedures used at Schiphol and other airports around the world
through its subsidiary, ICTS Holland Products BV.

JUST THE FACTS:

Let's review what we know thus far:

Our terrorist traveled to Yemen to meet with terrorist there
The terrorists in Yemen had been in Guantanamo but had been ordered released by the Bush Administration though they were, perhaps the most dangerous detainees held
The government of Yemen tells us that Islamic terrorists there have been arrested who have proven ties to Israeli intelligence
Our terrorists father, though we are told is a retired "Nigerian banker" actually ran their defense industry in close cooperation with Israeli Intelligence (Mossad)
Our terrorist's visa to the US was never with withdrawn, though he was on a "terrorist watchlist"
Our terrorist, though flying from Nigeria, entered the Netherlands without passing thru customs, something impossible to do without assistance from an intelligence agency
Our terrorist, while at the Amsterdam airport, was being assisted by a man appearing to be Indian, who claimed our Nigerian terrorist was a Sudanese refugee with no passport (no passport was used entering the EU, something technically impossible)
However, Dutch authorities, the same ones who confirmed he entered the country with no passport also confirmed he had a valid US visa, though on a terrorist watch list that is shared with Dutch authorities.
Airport security in Amsterdam is contracted to an Israeli controlled company with, not only the most sophisticated technologies, but, in fact, the company that had developed the concept of security profiling.
The parallels between this case and the Richard Reid "shoe bomber" case are much more than admitted.
WHERE THE STORY IS GOING

We keep going back to 2007. Why were these terrorists released to Saudi custody? Why did Saudi Arabia release them soon afterward? With the 2nd major terrorist front in the world being Yemen and the terrorist operation there under the control of released Bush detainees, there is reason for suspicion.

While we have all of these facts, easily verifiable, we have a much stronger case against the Bush Administration or Israel than Al Qaeda. There is no real evidence that Al Qaeda would be operating in Yemen without American or Saudi help and even, as stated by the Government of Yemen, direct material assistance from Israel.

Why would such a thing be done, something against all reason unless terrorism itself was part of a larger regional plan and a "war on terror" was only a ruse.

When Pakistan comes to us and says that Israel and India are involved in terrorism there and we ignore it, is it because it isn't credible or because the US government has been involved, as we seem to be involved in Yemen?

WHY THE STORY HAS TO GRIND TO A STOP OR, "THE WHOLE DIRTY MESS WILL COLLAPSE"

Why are we satisfied to take one person into custody, one person who ties to so many irregularities and ask nothing else?

As with 9/11 and so many other seeminly impossible times when so many things go wrong that only great power and the cooperation of many agencies in many countries could make it possible, why do we ask nothing.

We have a major investigation in Nigeria, not only of the father and his connections to Israel but our own embassy and why they left this visa alone when the individual was a known terrorist.

How could this terrorist travel to Yemen to meet with an organization run by former detainees released by Bush and his Saudi friends, former detainees that Yemen claims are working for israel? How could he do this and be allowed to return to Nigeria, a country whose intelligence services are tied to Israel and trained by Israel. They would have known in a second.

How did this terrorist enter the Netherlands without showing a passport? Try it. You will meet lots of Dutch people who will keep you in a small room for hours, days even. It is absolutely impossible.

People are picked up in the EU while in passport control for non-payment of child support. I am being told they can't find a terrorist?

We haven't begun to discover how he got past security equipment and screening. It isn't like he isn't the highest profile potential terrorist who has entered Nigeria in decades. He is Islamic, young and traveling alone. Ask any young Islamic traveler how many times they have been searched.

Is is on a terrorist watchlist. This is like the "no fly list" on steroids. You aren't just denied flight, you are put under immediate surveillance.

If he had shown his passport, it would have shown him entering Yemen, a known terrorist training ground. This would have stopped him also.

With the Bush administration releasing terrorist leaders and shepherding them back into their former profession, with our embassy, State Department, Homeland Security and every other organization we spent so many billions of dollars to "coordinate" all failing, is there, just perhaps, a minor sign of conspiracy?

I would call President Obama to account for failures to discover what appears to be a conspiracy of his predecessor but, as the GOP blogs that fill the internet are working overtime to obscure the facts and place the blame on Obama alone, there could be no greater proof of non-involvement.

Frankly, if the Obama administration was involved with Bush, as it seems they are, then the Bush/Cheney "disinformation" attack dogs would be leashed. They are not. Thus, Bush and Cheney should be targeted for investigation.



Warm Regards,
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by furacao(m): 10:50am On Jan 06, 2010
Ha! Muslims always try to pin the blame on Israel,
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Oboma1(m): 11:26am On Jan 06, 2010
furacao:

Ha! Muslims always try to pin the blame on Israel,


What do you expect from them. They will always find someone to apportion their blame to. They want to rule the world, with bombs and forcing people to join their killing religion.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by yeyeruzi: 11:56am On Jan 06, 2010
We all are guilty of something and that is hatred based on fallacies.

We just react but don't ask questions where ANSWERS could and should clearly be given. I have relatives who are Muslims and I take time to ask questions and demand prove against what they are being labeled as.


We let hatred rule our lives and don't even bother to look for facts.

Remember when the false story of 'Michael Jackson became a muslim' hit the media. Many muslims without no prove where happy. They believe that the media can never be calculating but I was also a victim too for Christians all over abused the guy and wished him dead all on a false unproven report.

If Yaradua returns to Nigeria with a report of him being a born-again christian, we would experience lots of hatred from extremist muslims but christians would be happy even if Yaradua had not confirmed his Christianity.

Nigerians should seek out facts and ask questions. The only investigation result America gave that seemed professional was that faruq's firecracker was made of PETN. Any thing else that was said to have come out of faruqs mouth was yet to be investigated or proven and Peter King of the US wants the case be made in a millitary court where every thing will be secretive. Why?

No body could Answer the question why faruq took a flight from Ghana to Nigeria(Hence our country being on the terrorist list) and then to Amsterdam and then to the US. When he could leave directly from any of these countries to the USA.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by rooftech: 11:58am On Jan 06, 2010
tips to nigerian dont dress like an arab we are all paying for the sins of a rich Muslim boy that why i sayu lets divide this country
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by yeyeruzi: 12:20pm On Jan 06, 2010
rooftech:

tips to nigerian dont dress like an arab we are all paying for the sins of a rich Muslim boy that why i sayu lets divide this country

The sonny playstation advert, the District 12 film, and now this all involving the USA AND NIGERIA AND 2009. We react to a boy that is YET TO BE CONFIRMED PROFESSIONALLY TO BE THE REAL FARUQ MUTALLAB (DON'T FALL FOR THE HOLLYWOOD STATIC PICTURES). While we apportion blames to tribes and religion some external political beings are taking advantage of our differences and hatred so that we can't ask the right questions. And we will still be blaming ourselves while the USA will seek a military base here to prove our innocence and this time we will agree without thinking of the consequences.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by philip0906(m): 1:03pm On Jan 06, 2010
I was chating with a lady representing one of these foreign universities.she was like
"hello,how may I help u?"
I replied that I wanted to know the admission process.she then asked me which country and qualification I had.Immediately I told her "I am from Nigeria".I noticed that she did not reply me.After some minutes of waiting,i resent the message.she the replied"sorry I cant help" shocked shocked.shocked as I was.I asked her "why can't you help?'.she said "universities" do not accept Nigerian students" .
shocked shocked grin grin
If this is as a result of the attempted bombing or Nigeria's bad name,only God knows.Many people have suffered as a result of the bad name this country has.Now the attempted bombing,Agali's fake passport scandal(in the same holland).Only God will save us.Thank God I qualify for a republic of benin passport grin grin.if it gets worse i will simply apply.i no fit suffa as a result of anoda person evil.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by bolanleodu: 1:13pm On Jan 06, 2010
@ tpai, firstly, one could easily pick up some -tive ideas which would ordinarily on the face of it seem to have any merit but deep within it and with reference to its would-be consequences are as evil as its thinker. Secondly, i've noticed the presence of some -tive elements here on nairaland. I always thought there was sometime political about this whole thing it suprises me that Muttalab snr had interest in israeli arms company, This is really serious drama.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by pharuk: 3:46pm On Jan 06, 2010
i have followed this story closely and i must confess, as bad as using a nigerian as a yardstick to 150 million others is disturbing.
The truth is that we reacted immediately without seeing the facts why we are on that list, its not just because of umar (though he was a catalyst), they have been watching us for a long time, from the jos crisis, bauchi religious war and the slain people in maiduguri last yr, the whole world was seeing how they reacted to it, its a shame that the leader of the maiduguri-potiskum war was caught and then executed without a trial and the police said he was shot during exchange of fire, while the video is on youtube when he was interviewed by police, the videos of how a young man dressed in hause clothes was shot on target in maiduguri by the police, what did the government do??
what upsets me the most is that u go to facebook and u will be surprised that it nigerians that are posting all these hideous comments of how terrible the country is, my page is filled with umar abdul-wateva with other nationals commenting on it, how many intl people have u seen pasting negitive things on their page abt their country
Crisis is everywhere, is how u respond to it that matters, and sadly our leadership has failed--therefore britons and americans know that a terrorist can have its breeding ground there and the govt will do the same thing "NOTHING"
so stop blaming U.S, i am not in support because we all fill the pain everywhere, i have been denied a job plenty and plenty of times here in the UK because of my nationality, but i am proud of my country and will never change my nationality for any, believe me this country is not heading for the rocks but will get to a higher height but first, it has to be criticised.

Despite the corruption, rape, kidnapping, unemployment and religious war, I HAVE HOPE FOR MY COUNTRY
9ja till i die
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Oboma1(m): 7:13pm On Jan 06, 2010
bolanleodu:

@ tpai, firstly, one could easily pick up some -tive ideas which would ordinarily on the face of it seem to have any merit but deep within it and with reference to its would-be consequences are as evil as its thinker. Secondly, i've noticed the presence of some -tive elements here on nairaland. I always thought there was sometime political about this whole thing it suprises me that Muttalab snr had interest in israeli arms company, This is really serious drama.


Nigerians will always apportion blame for their own deeds.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by N101: 9:04pm On Jan 06, 2010
@ post

I'm not convinced that this story is true.  The only way this could happen on public transport is:

(1) If he smells
(2) If he was chatting away to no one in particular
(3) He started acting like he was going to do something crazy

People endure all types of madness on public transport. This man was trying to draw attention to himself to get a reaction and achieved his objective.  Think about it: why would you get on public transport and announce anything if you didn't expect a reaction?
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by lastpage: 3:06am On Jan 07, 2010
@rich pitt.

could you give us a little background about "yourself"?
Are you Nigerian?
What interest do you have in "exposing" the truth/lies in this story?
Your contribution is "quite outstanding" and very different!
I am curious about your submissions but with so many stories flying around, l want to not only keep an open mind but explore all possibilities.

Thank you.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Rooneyboy(m): 3:46am On Jan 07, 2010
Wow ! I think the 1914 amalgamation has brought more harm than good to this country.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Theseer: 4:00am On Jan 07, 2010
It is a shame that my people are passing thru this across the Globe because of one man stupidity. I think it is time we take our destiny in our hands. We should hold our leader accountable for the kind of leadership they are given. We all know them from our various locality. We should ask our ancestral spirits to go after all of them and deal with all of the them one after the other.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Nobody: 5:25am On Jan 07, 2010
Theseer:

It is a shame that my people are passing thru this across the Globe because of one man stupidity. I think it is time we take our destiny in our hands. We should hold our leader accountable for the kind of leadership they are given. We all know them from our various locality. We should ask our ancestral spirits to go after all of them and deal with all of the them one after the other.


It has nothing to do with Mutallab but everything to do with nigeria"s refusal to allow an american military base during the era of obasanjo.The americans are very cunning at they are hoping by branding nigeria as the 5th nation that sponsors terrorism would be enough to instigate the nigerian political class into doing something foolish and hence giving the americans a reason to invade and occupy nigeria.Remember in the past that hillary clinton did say that her govt was willing to send american troops to the niger delta to deal with MEND hence this would be a sweet opportunity for the americans to do such if the nigerian govt gives them a reason for that.Having said that it will be the innocent poor nigerians who would suffer in the course of an american invasion because many nigerian politicians would leave the country for abroad in the course of an invasion and its only the nigerian civilians who would get hurt.Lets how remember iraq and how many iraqi women and children were raped by american soldiers.Like this picture below shows a 14 yr old iraqi girl who was gang raped by american soldiers hence this will be the lot for nigerian women and children while we men would be sent to prison and maybe sodomised by US troops like was done in Abu Ghraib.

Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Nobody: 5:30am On Jan 07, 2010
TYPO
The picture shows the footage of a 14 yr old iraqi girl who was gang raped by american soldiers and hence this will be the fate of nigerian women if the USA eventually invades nigeria while the men would be locked up in prison and sodomised by US soldiers like it was done in Abu Ghraib prison in iraq.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Dejipumpin(m): 11:19am On Jan 07, 2010
I still can't fanthom why the misdeed of a UK based Nigerian has caused so much hullabaloo & dent on our national image after the father had already willingly notified the US authorities of the Islamic fundamentlism/extremism tendencies he suddenly discovered about his son. , I strongly believe that the US govt knows quite well it does not stand to gainor achieve any goal of fighting terrosim by just visiting the criminal act of a single national on the nation of over 140 Millions, Let's wait and see how far that wrong allegation will take them!
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by kpolli(m): 12:02pm On Jan 07, 2010
not all nigerians, but naija muslims
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Enjoyment1(f): 3:13pm On Jan 07, 2010
kpolli:

not all nigerians, but naija muslims


But they were supposed to have their base in the Niger Delta, an not in the north.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by kpolli(m): 3:37pm On Jan 07, 2010
which base, or u just takin a piss?
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Enjoyment1(f): 4:40pm On Jan 07, 2010
kpolli:

which base, or u just takin a piss?


If Obasanjo agreed, they would have built a base there. That had a well developed plan for that.
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by Enjoyment1(f): 4:41pm On Jan 07, 2010
There is nothing anybody could have done, not even you. Obasanjo handed over Bakassi, what did you do?
Re: Uk Whites Scampered For Safety After A Nigerian Identified Self At Train Station by yeyeruzi: 5:11pm On Jan 07, 2010
Its good to see some Nairalanders looking at the possible logical reasons behind a clear terrorist hoax rather than just reacting to the media in an absurdly gullible manner and even strongly become part of the diversion of their destruction themselves.

Even if Faruq Abdul Mutalab was/is a president of Nigeria should we let our fear and emotions drive us out of our normal thinking minds?

Al qaeda confirmed they are behind the failed bombing and Yet they can't be traced through their message sources despite their public messages which they have been giving since 9/11.

If they can't be traced and possibly annihilated what proves that the message is truely from al-qaeda rather than a political justification for injustice. Should the media be airing such things and doing the so called mysterious al-qaeda a favor?

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