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If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Nobody: 7:03am On May 04, 2017
IF WE DO NOT KILL BID'AH, BID'AH WILL KILL US

Like its economic and financial counterparts, bid'ah is a form of religious corruption. It is a fraud and scam, a misappropriation of religious rites, a distortion of its texts, an "embezzlement of facts", an abuse of knowledge and scholarship, and a clear misrepresentation of Islam. Bid'ah is a hydra headed monster; the more you try to uproot it from one end, the more it sprouts elsewhere.

It is funny these days when people come online to criticize and insult those of us condemning bid'ah, labeling us as hardliners and extremists. They find it absurd and nonsensical that everyday, people like us come online to condemn everything instead of doing Da'wah (inviting people to the Deen). Lols.... Whenever I come across comments like that on my posts, I simply smile and ignore them.

Why?

Folks like that are suffering from ignorance, or hypocrisy, or mischief, or a combination of all three. Refutation of people of Shirk (polytheism) and Dolaalah (misguidance) is a fundamental part of the Deen, right from the period of Prophet Nuh, the first Messenger of Allah. (Read Qur’ān 11:25-35). Prophet Ibrahim inherited this Da'wah methodology and also refuted the misguided folks of his generation, including his own father! (Read Qur’ān 19:41-48). This trend continued until the advent of our noble Prophet Muhammad (upon him be peace) (Read Qur’ān 26:105-179).

Now, will any sensible fellow claim that these Prophets did not carry out Da'wah? Or will anyone deny or dismiss the contents of those verses? Da'wah is a compound word that entails Al-Irshaad (guiding others), An-naseehah (giving advice), Al-hiwaar (having discussion), Al-Mujaadalah (debate), Al-amr wa'l-inkaar (commanding what is right and forbidding what is wrong), At-Tahzeer (warning people from evils) dhammu'l-bida' wa'sh-Shirk (condemning bid'ah and shirk), et cetera.

The problem with bid'ah is that it not only misleads its perpetrators, it in fact obliterates the Sunnah. Bid'ah is so evil that if it is not fought tooth and nail, it will destroy all of one's good deeds. The Ulamaa said:

"It is for this reason that Bid'ah is more beloved to Shaitaan than both the minor and major sins because while it is possible to realize one's misdeeds and repent from them, the Shaitaan beautifies bid'ah and deceives its perpetrators that they are on the truth while others are on falsehood, thereby making it impossible for them to repent from it."

As Muslims, the question we should always ask is, what is the proof from the Qur’ān and Sunnah on the permissibility or otherwise of an action. It does not matter how beautiful a thing is, so long as it is a religious affair, it has to be sanctioned by Allah and His Rasuul before it becomes part of our religion.

The proponents of Mawlidu'n-Nabiyy have no evidence from either the primary or secondary sources of the Sharī’ah to prosecute their claim, except what they try to string together of their illogical logics and unreasonable reasons, such as "what is wrong in celebrating our beloved?"

To all the proponents of Mawlidu'n-Nabiyy, we know your problem. Kindly read Qur’ān 43:22-25. May Allah deliver you all from ignorance, hypocrisy and mischief. Aameen!

By Sirnucy Lafiagi

I removed the Arabic text in the original post to avoid being banned by the unrepentant anti-spam bot

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Lilaex: 11:31am On May 05, 2017
Ah ah am surprise this tread is on Islam for Muslims and there is no swearing in nairaland don change ni

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Moreoffaith(m): 11:33am On May 05, 2017
Masha Allah

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by chynie: 11:35am On May 05, 2017
am a certified Muslim naw abi grin
I no swear to comment o
inshallah

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by abatisegun: 11:38am On May 05, 2017
Op has proved himself to be truthful because I know already that I have come across this write up before. May Almighty Allah save us all from all form of innovations

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by favourjohnson(f): 11:43am On May 05, 2017
if you have the power to do so no problem
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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by umu(m): 11:56am On May 05, 2017
JAZAKALLAHU KHAIRAN [b][/b] smiley

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by danysi(m): 11:58am On May 05, 2017
Masha Allah bidah is a disease
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by skywalker001(m): 11:59am On May 05, 2017
Nairaland is stupid for making someone swear before comment on islamic thread...
I tot seun is an atheist so y all dis bruhaha
Fuucck religion

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Nobody: 12:24pm On May 05, 2017
Lilaex:
Ah ah am surprise this tread is on Islam for Muslims and there is no swearing in nairaland don change ni

u lie
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by SoulB6: 12:35pm On May 05, 2017
give one proof from Qur'an and hadith where Allah, the prophet and his companions, said clearly Maulud is haram.

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by adeyak83(m): 12:51pm On May 05, 2017
SoulB6:
give one proof from Qur'an and hadith where Allah, the prophet and his companions, said clearly Maulud is haram.

you've spoke my mind...Op over to you thank you

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Ishaq717(m): 12:55pm On May 05, 2017
SoulB6:
give one proof from Qur'an and hadith where Allah, the prophet and his companions, said clearly Maulud is haram.
Maulud does not have to be written aii
innovation is haraam, and maulud started after prophet's demise....so d ball is in your court

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Demmzy15(m): 1:13pm On May 05, 2017
SoulB6:
give one proof from Qur'an and hadith where Allah, the prophet and his companions, said clearly Maulud is haram.
Why are you like this? grin grin Why didn't the Prophet and his companions celebrate their birthday? grin grin
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by shawl: 1:20pm On May 05, 2017
SoulB6:
give one proof from Qur'an and hadith where Allah, the prophet and his companions, said clearly Maulud is haram.

You dey mind them.
They just keep on recycling their whacked up logics. No proof at all.
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by princessayesha(f): 1:46pm On May 05, 2017
Mashaallah. Nice piece @Op
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Nobody: 2:00pm On May 05, 2017
Salam everyone. Islam has many issues. Antagonists are everywhere -within and without.

So, I rarely comment on religions threads, but here is what I think. Islam has refused to move with the times. The scholars find it so easy to find something to tackle things. The funny thing is - there interpretations are always read to suit there own side of the argument e.g The topic of Marrying more than a wife. Many scholars will NEVER tell you the whole truth. But they are very quick to condemn others.

We judge others a lot in Islam. We are so judgemental, it is suffocating... But then, I blame it all on religion. It is so powerfull and destructive. The positive side is negligible compared to its destructive tendencies. We all can see examples all over the world.

Only you will see others as inferiors, enemies, infidels, threats, haters ... why can't you live your life for once, and let my ALLAH fight his battles. So, now, Mauled Nabbiy is a PROBLEM. Everybody claims to know more than the other. I am the real muslim, they are not.

Whatever anybody says or do, it won't change my faith in ALLAH. LeAve people alone, and let ALLAH be the judge.

Before you wander too far, I am a Muslim. A proud practicing muslim, and NOTHING can change that.

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Nobody: 2:32pm On May 05, 2017
beatzone:
Salam everyone. Islam has many issues. Antagonists are everywhere -within and without.

So, I rarely comment on religions threads, but here is what I think. Islam has refused to move with the times. The scholars find it so easy to find something to tackle things. The funny thing is - there interpretations are always read to suit there own side of the argument e.g The topic of Marrying more than a wife. Many scholars will NEVER tell you the whole truth. But they are very quick to condemn others.

We judge others a lot in Islam. We are so judgemental, it is suffocating... But then, I blame it all on religion. It is so powerfull and destructive. The positive side is negligible compared to its destructive tendencies. We all can see examples all over the world.

Only you will see others as inferiors, enemies, infidels, threats, haters ... why can't you live your life for once, and let my ALLAH fight his battles. So, now, Mauled Nabbiy is a PROBLEM. Everybody claims to know more than the other. I am the real muslim, they are not.

Whatever anybody says or do, it won't change my faith in ALLAH. LeAve people alone, and let ALLAH be the judge.

Before you wander too far, I am a Muslim. A proud practicing muslim, and NOTHING can change that.


smh

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by balarabe01(m): 3:05pm On May 05, 2017
salamu alaikum
Mr poster I write to commend your post but plus always edit thoroughly b4 posting so as not 2spread d wrong message during daawah.
The 1St prophet is Adam not nuhu
The prophet said yahudu, nasara and Islam would split into 70+sects each those doing bid'ah of maulud are just one sect so stress yourself no further they won't change, it's hipocrisy(remember surah almunafiqun).
abdelkabir keep it up.
@beatzone ur right but remember prophet said extend my message even if with an ayyah, if you see evil preach but don't take it personal.
jumuatulkabir.
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Nobody: 3:13pm On May 05, 2017
balarabe01:
salamu alaikum
Mr poster I write to commend your post but plus always edit thoroughly b4 posting so as not 2spread d wrong message during daawah.
The 1St prophet is Adam not nuhu
The op made mention of first messenger not first prophet, and the first messenger was nuh, there is a difference between messenger and prophet.....there were 10 generations between Adam and Nuh and all were upon truth, shirk started in the time of Nuh which needed a messenger like Nuh to command worship to Allaah and taking them far from tawaagheet (false deities)..

@beatzone ur right but remember prophet said extend my message even if with an ayyah, if you see evil preach but don't take it personal.

He is not right and I decided to ignore him


jumuatulkabir.

This is one of the bidah from them bidaat we talking about...
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by farouk2much(m): 3:22pm On May 05, 2017
No body i mean no one can stop us from doing MAULUD............... We go do maulud till the end of our lives no one can stop us............ MAULUD 4 LIFE
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by farouk2much(m): 3:27pm On May 05, 2017
Stupid nairaland i will never visit this site ever again........... The owners of this site is iZALA people idnt like izala fvck izala
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Nobody: 3:28pm On May 05, 2017
farouk2much:
No body i mean no one can stop us from doing MAULUD............... We go do maulud till the end of our lives no one can stop us............ MAULUD 4 LIFE

As if anyone is holding you from celebrating maulid, our problem is, اين دليله؟ that's the one problem we have, and if you can't provide daleel for it, then don't ascribe your nonsense to Islam....
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by muteeu(m): 3:31pm On May 05, 2017
abatisegun:
Op has proved himself to be truthful because I know already that I have come across this write up before. May Almighty Allah save us all from all form of innovations
. amin
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Tokziby: 3:57pm On May 05, 2017
beatzone:
Salam everyone. Islam has many issues. Antagonists are everywhere -within and without.

So, I rarely comment on religions threads, but here is what I think. Islam has refused to move with the times. The scholars find it so easy to find something to tackle things. The funny thing is - there interpretations are always read to suit there own side of the argument e.g The topic of Marrying more than a wife. Many scholars will NEVER tell you the whole truth. But they are very quick to condemn others.

We judge others a lot in Islam. We are so judgemental, it is suffocating... But then, I blame it all on religion. It is so powerfull and destructive. The positive side is negligible compared to its destructive tendencies. We all can see examples all over the world.

Only you will see others as inferiors, enemies, infidels, threats, haters ... why can't you live your life for once, and let my ALLAH fight his battles. So, now, Mauled Nabbiy is a PROBLEM. Everybody claims to know more than the other. I am the real muslim, they are not.

Whatever anybody says or do, it won't change my faith in ALLAH. LeAve people alone, and let ALLAH be the judge.

Before you wander too far, I am a Muslim. A proud practicing muslim, and NOTHING can change that.


My Brother in Islam, at times like this, we need to be careful of whatever we get ourselves into. Let the truth be said at all times. Its true majority condemn people for what they do without doing it as a form of advice or have knowledge about it. The Prophet (PBUH) said, whenever we see evil being done, we should correct it in three way; by action, mouth and the weakest of all, by mind. Remember the popular saying that goes "evil persist in the land when good men do nothing". This is the reason why u see many people condemn people but do it in a wrong way.
Allah said there is no compulsion in religion.
As for "Maulud", The Prophet (PBUH) before his death said follow the Quran and the Hadeeth (sunnah/household Allahu Aalam). And anything that was not in these two is fabricated and is shrk and any form of shrk no matter how beautiful, is going to hell.

The issue of Maulud should be clean clear and concise cos its not in any of the two. However, our various religious leaders has failed in this aspect, by trying to justify their actions by celebrating the Prophets deeds and inturn make it a fun fair activity all because of money. As for me, i dont participate in any of those as long as it was not practiced by the Prophet or his companions. So i try to tell my family and friends not to involve theirselves in it cos it wasnt practiced by the Prophet or His household.

The issue of Shrk is not something that should handled lightly cos its tricks from shaytan to derail the believers from the true ways of Allah.

The issue of Asalatu for instance is one of the greatest fitnah that is bedeviling us but our leaders have been sugar coating for people all for the sake of money. I have resented this for more than 10 years and counting cos it is not part of Islam and i'm sure by now the evil in it should be manifesting for the learned to see.
The Prophet (PBUH) said before the world ends Islam will split into 73 places and only one of them will be considered right part. Also the Prophet (PBUH) warned against copying the xtians in their ways cos its a great sin. But now, asalatu is now a sunday sunday tonic like church, people will rather go to asalatu than to observe solat or go for jumat on fridays.
During the New year's eve, u will see muslims troop to Masjid doing passover night whereas neglecting the passover during the Hijra calendar (Though its not permissible in Islam) all in the name of asalatu, they are celebrating a pagan calendar not even xtian.
Now we have different denominations of asalutu just like xtian and people starts inviting themselves to their various groups.
xtian occupy the Ibadan express way and stadium for crusades and Muslim doing the same for laitulquadri all in the name of asalutu things.

I am 100% certain that it will come to a time that these denominations will formulate different doctrines that will prevent its members from entering any masjid to worship thereby splitting islam categorically.
In case u dont know aside from the shia, ahmadiya there are tijaniyyah, qodiriya and others that i dont know of but already have their own doctrine added to Islam that are neither in the Quran nor Hadeeth nor practiced by the sahabas.

This is why we have to be extremely cautious of what we do, Shrk can come in any form of proclaiming good tidings but at the long run it will end up derailing people from the teachings of Islam and lead them astray.

As for me, I do my Solat, try as much as possible to follow what the Quran teaches, observe sunnahs that i know of, try to advice people from what i know is good and prohibited, do good and abstain from anything that will hurt others. And try to ask questions or seek for knowledge of what the Quran and Hadeeth teaches. Abstain from anything that is not documented or prooved that the Prophet practice. And any evil that befall me, i believe its from Allah and Allah will not give us a burden that is beyond our means.

May Allah increase our knowledge of Islam, give us wisdom to differentiate between what is good and bad and guide us to the right path.

Ma Salaam.

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Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by PeacenLove2: 6:05pm On May 05, 2017
beatzone:
Salam everyone. Islam has many issues. Antagonists are everywhere -within and without.

So, I rarely comment on religions threads, but here is what I think. Islam has refused to move with the times. The scholars find it so easy to find something to tackle things. The funny thing is - there interpretations are always read to suit there own side of the argument e.g The topic of Marrying more than a wife. Many scholars will NEVER tell you the whole truth. But they are very quick to condemn others.

We judge others a lot in Islam. We are so judgemental, it is suffocating... But then, I blame it all on religion. It is so powerfull and destructive. The positive side is negligible compared to its destructive tendencies. We all can see examples all over the world.

Only you will see others as inferiors, enemies, infidels, threats, haters ... why can't you live your life for once, and let my ALLAH fight his battles. So, now, Mauled Nabbiy is a PROBLEM. Everybody claims to know more than the other. I am the real muslim, they are not.

Whatever anybody says or do, it won't change my faith in ALLAH. LeAve people alone, and let ALLAH be the judge.

Before you wander too far, I am a Muslim. A proud practicing muslim, and NOTHING can change that.

God bless you for this comment. I try hard not to comment on most Islamic threads as well as there is usually tension and people ready to bite your head off if you dare have an opinion contrary to theirs. There are just too many Muslims out there painting Islam as a sort of dictatorship, choking, harsh, unkind and just so very unattractive.

I am a Muslim and I remind myself everytime, I have not remained a Muslim because of some other Muslims. I strive to know God, I studied the Prophet (PBUH) and I try to make peace between myself and mankind. I agree with you 100%. It's time for us Muslims to Live and Let Live, to stop living in the 600ADs and start to practice the true ideas of a believer. The religion of Islam is about peace, brotherhood and togetherness. We aren't doing a good job at all towards that. I know a lot of people who can no longer relate with Islam especially women who find it too oppressive. Life is hard enough. Abeg, people let's show kindness and be just in our daily lives. Thank you.
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by moufan: 7:21pm On May 05, 2017
we must all avoid bid'ah
nice one op,jazakhumllahu akhiran
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by moufan: 7:22pm On May 05, 2017
we must all avoid bid'ah
nice one op,jazakhumllahu akhiran
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by rhames(m): 9:42am On May 06, 2017
Even as a Muslim, i rarely want to get into arguments about our religion. one of the biggest problem of Islam is we have left our religion in the hands of charlatans, politiciuans, Mallamin Zaure, hear say and we the practising one do not cross check the facts they tell us.
Re: If We Do Not Kill Bid'ah, Bid'ah Will Kill Us by Newnas(m): 10:21am On May 06, 2017
SoulB6:
give one proof from Qur'an and hadith where Allah, the prophet and his companions, said clearly Maulud is haram.

This your question shows that you are suffering from one of two major diseases:

# Ignorance

#dim-wittedness

The statement of Allah clearly explains your type:

Surah Al-Anaam, Verse 112:
وَكَذَٰلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نَبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الْإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَىٰ بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ

And so We have appointed for every Prophet enemies - Shayatin (devils) among mankind and jinns, inspiring one another with adorned speech as a delusion (or by way of deception). If your Lord had so willed, they would not have done it, so leave them alone with their fabrications. (Tafseer Qurtubi, Vol. 7, Page 67)
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

To show you how flimsy your claim is I'll ask you a single and simple question:

Show me one place in the Quran that says solar Subh should not be 10rakats!

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