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Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by fineboynl(m): 8:44pm On May 09, 2017 |
firstly let look at acting president. An acting president is a person who temporarily fills the role of an organization's or country's president when the substantive president is unavailable (such as by illness or a vacation) or when the post is vacant (such as for death, injury, resignation, dismissal). secondly let look at coordinating president the process of organizing people or groups so that they work together properly and well. or the act of making all the people involved in a plan or activity work ... ================= from the above context. coordinating is not like a acting president to take after the president to make orders, but coordinating the workers more like a master put his servant in charged of his work force to coordinate them. this is unacceptable, the vp run for the election, he is part of the elected officers and not an appointee. he was elected along with buhari. and if not for osinbaja buhari wouldn't have won. why did buhari not run with a northerner? this is a shame to the democracy of Nigeria and this matter shouldn't be swept under the rug. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by Alisegun(m): 8:47pm On May 09, 2017 |
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Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by Elmojiid(m): 9:25pm On May 09, 2017 |
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Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:28pm On May 09, 2017 |
By making Osinbajo the coordinator, Buhari simply mean "I'm still in charge but VP will coordinate things for me". I recall back in 2010 January, AGF Michael Aaondoka said the VP is "overseeing the government and it was unnecessary to make him acting President". This is exactly what Buhari letter is saying and Saraki is aware. Let me add that another implication is that the VP won't assume all powers of the President (in practice) as he would have if he had been elevated to acting President. The trick however is that the loyalty of Osinbajo has been put to test. If he attempts going above the line, the cabal will Bring Back Buhari and the doctors and Osinbajo will be "put in his place". I will say the Senate pass a doctrine of necessity to empower VP to be Acting President. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by la1(m): 9:35pm On May 09, 2017 |
you are all...without exception... extremely foolish individuals.... who then is the "acting president" if not for the VP? does the constitution allow for a vacuum? ... PMB has handed over as prescribed and here you all are arguing over the semantics of written syntax.... i repeat.. You're all very foolish individuals 2 Likes |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by nijabazaar: 9:44pm On May 09, 2017 |
Osibanjo is a conductor abi Na coordinator in the zootopia called Nigeria |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by weyabcom: 9:48pm On May 09, 2017 |
la1:u lack basic education 1 Like |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by Repairnigeria(m): 9:54pm On May 09, 2017 |
acting or coordination make poor masses benefit from these government |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by obailala(m): 10:15pm On May 09, 2017 |
fineboynl: TonyeBarcanista:Following the Yaradua/Jonathan saga, a legislation was made; if the president is away for more than 14 days (without handing over to the VP to act in his stead), the VP automatically becomes Ag. President until the president returns. Someone correct me if I'm wrong... |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:18pm On May 09, 2017 |
obailala:And what happens during the 14 days? |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by obailala(m): 10:25pm On May 09, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista:If there's no handover, then he remains VP. Same thing which happens if the president makes a quick external trip; but if the trip lasts longer than 14 days, then the senate does their thing. 1 Like |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by fineboynl(m): 10:29pm On May 09, 2017 |
seun, lalasticlala |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by fineboynl(m): 10:29pm On May 09, 2017 |
buhari is not coming back again... though the doctor in UK have advised the president to resign as he cannot be cured but can only manage his health. buhari who is suffering a manageable condition and not curable condition has decided to leave the country on the ground that he will only return back as advice by his doctor. earlier the UK doctor kicked against buhari returning back to the country but after much pressure from the cabals to bring him back to the country as they feared that buhari is losing grips of his government. the cabals keep pressuring that buhari can be administered the same treatment at home. but now it seems their plan didn't work and he has returned back to UK and never to be seen again. the presidency said buhari will only return according to his doctor advice or recommendations and which we all know will never happened again. the doctor earlier advice he is unfit and should resign as he cannot be cured but only manage his health. 1 Like |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by auntysimbiat(f): 10:38pm On May 09, 2017 |
Hmmm... Na wa o |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by AlphaT1(m): 11:42pm On May 09, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista:What is this one saying? Indeed, there was a country full of sick illiterates...the letter clearly states; in compliance with section 145 (1) of the 1999 constitution (as amended)..... Now if you are not a zombie, what does the section 145(1) say? Mitchew! 3 Likes |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by Millz404(m): 12:43am On May 10, 2017 |
Stop saying nonsense. If that part of the Constitution hands over power to the vice president. Then that's all that counts 1 Like |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by Ra88: 12:51am On May 10, 2017 |
Ok 1 Share
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Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by yerokunphilips: 2:43am On May 10, 2017 |
ON THE ISSUE OF COORDINATING AND ACTING PRESIDENT .This is the letter the President sent to the house in January 2017 The letter read thus “Further to my letter dated 18th January 2017 in which I notified the Distinguished Senate of taking part of my annual leave. “During my leave, I took the opportunity to have routine check-ups and consult my long standing doctors in London. “In the course of the routine examinations, certain test result indicated the need for a course of medications and further appointments have been scheduled for next week. “I am therefore notifying the Distinguished Senate that I am extending my leave until the doctors are satisfied that certain factors are ruled out. In the circumstances, the vice president will continue to act on my behalf. “Please accept, Distinguished Senate President, the assurances of my highest consideration.” WHILE THE LATEST ONE READ THUS President Buhari’s letter dated 7th May, 2017, read in full, ” In compliance with section 145 {1) of the 1999 constitution as amended. I wish to inform the distinguished Senate that I will be away for a scheduled medical followup with my doctors in London. The length of my stay will be determined by the doctor’s advice. “While I am away the vice president will coordinate the activities of the government. Pls accept the distinguished senate president the assurances of my highest consideration.” http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/senate-reads-buharis-medical-leave-letter. PLEASE NOTE . IN THE FIRST LETTER NO SESSION OF THE NIGERIA CONSTITUTION WAS QUOTED , BUT IT WAS CLEARLY QUOTED AND WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THAT PART OF THE CONSTITUTION CHAPTER 6 , SESSION 145 (1)absence of President Whenever the President transmits to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives a written declaration that he is proceeding on vacation or that he is otherwise unable to discharge the functions of his office, until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary such functions shall be discharged by the Vice-President as Acting President. SO PROFESSOR YEMI OSIBANJO ,IS THE ACTING PRESIDENT AND ALSO THE COORDINATING PRESIDENT . ACCORDING TO BOTH HIS BOSS AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE LAND . GOD BLESS NIGERIA , HEAL PMB AND DEFEND PYO 1 Like |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by BabaRamota1980: 3:39am On May 10, 2017 |
In ordinary mundane application Acting is a first son, of matured age, that steps in to manage family affairs in the father's absence. He can make decision without consulting or waiting his father's approval and all relatives honor his decision. What happens if the man does not have a son but has a younger brother of matured age? He can elect the younger brother as a coordinator of his household pending his return. The decision of the younger brother in the capavity is non binding on the family members. Out of goodwill they can honor his decisions, but otherwise he will have to run inputs to the absent head of household who will then decide what action he wants his family to take. In a political setting, there are words like facilitator, collaborator, coodinator. Facilitator is one who identifies resources and employs their value sets towards accomplishing a task. Collaborator is one who acts as the central point to build team spirit and synergy towards a common goal. Coordinator is one who aligns disparate and diversified teams to work in a balanced setting, but not necessarily common goal, and minimize disorderliness. ---------------' A coordinator is not the owner of process and protocol and may not make decision concerning them without first consulting and getting the nod of the principal owner. An ACTING place holder has rights of decision making, with ot without consultation. He is co-owner of the process and protocol of office. |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by jericco1(m): 4:40am On May 10, 2017 |
And Osinbajo accepted it whole heartedly. |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by BabaRamota1980: 4:51am On May 10, 2017 |
jericco1: Osinbajo is new to this level of political savagery. Yoruba is a veteran of it and I would expect them to raise a counterforce. However, if they dont it is well understood. Yoruba say "abo oro l'an soo fun omoluabi, to ba de inu a d' odindi". I can hear a message in the silence from Ibadan. |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by baby124: 4:57am On May 10, 2017 |
Well first shot of lack of trust in Osinbajo has been fired. Any political manouvre he makes after this is only fair. Within 14days of the presidents departure the senate must declare him acting. He is automatically acting anyway regardless of what Buhari writes down. The senate must also debate Buhari's ability to lead the country based on his health. It's not helping us if Buhari can't lead and always running abroad for healthcare. Nigeria is bigger than Buhari who is spending scarce resources abroad and stagnating the nation out of selfish interest. 2 Likes |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by SmartMugu: 5:00am On May 10, 2017 |
fineboynl:Where did you read your version of this matter from? |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by Biggie225(m): 6:07am On May 10, 2017 |
afonjas, tinubu should fight the battle alone
we the se/ss nothing concern us... |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by vedaxcool(m): 6:08am On May 10, 2017 |
Please fan anyone show where he said that Osinbanjo is coordinating president in his letter 1 Like |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by jericco1(m): 6:12am On May 10, 2017 |
BabaRamota1980:that's the thing, they will use the fact that he is new to the game to undermine him. |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by NzeOnyekachi(m): 8:12am On May 10, 2017 |
Nigerians should wake up and be bold enough to speak to government officials. What is the meaning of coordinator. What brings in coordinate into Nigeria government? Why won't Buhari accept the fact. Making Osibanja coordinator means he Buhari is insulting him. You runed presidency with him..now you are taking him out of his chair to give him another chair,just because you want your housa fullani brothers to be happy. Its useless..... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by salam1(m): 9:05am On May 10, 2017 |
Professor Yemi Osinbajo reacted to concern that President Buhari did not hand over power to him - He said the president duly handed over power to him Professor Yemi Osinbajo has waded into the controversy surrounding whether President Muhammadu Buhari duly handed over power to him when he left the country. President Buhari had left the country on Sunday, May 7 for medical treatment and the vice president was duly expected to replace him in acting capacity. On Tuesday, May 9 however, there was observation from Senator Mao Ohuabunwa that the president did not properly transfer power to the vice president following a letter read by Senate president, Bukola Saraki of the president’s medical trip. The letter read: “In compliance with Section 145 (1) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended), I wish to inform the distinguished Senate that I will be away for a scheduled medical follow-up with my doctors in London. The length of my stay will be determined by the doctor’s advice. “While I am away, the Vice President will coordinate the activities of the government. Please accept, the distinguished Senate President, the assurances of my highest consideration.” Ohuabunwa criticised the letter saying there was no position of coordinating president in the constitution and that Osinbajo should have been duly addressed as acting president. He said: “Whenever the President transmits to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives a written declaration that he is proceeding on vacation or that he is unable to discharge the functions of his office, until he transmits to them the written declaration to the contrary, such function shall be discharged by the Vice- President as Acting President. “Mr. President, I don’t think in our Constitution we have anything like ‘coordinating president’ or ‘coordinating vice president.’ It is either you are vice president or you are acting president and any letter (on transfer of power) should be unambiguous and very clear. So, I am saying that this letter really does not convey anything because ‘coordinating’ has no space or any place in our Constitution. “We have been having (receiving) letters like this in which he will tell us who is the acting president and we will know who to deal with as a Senate. This is the highest legislative body of any country and if you are sending us a letter, it should be direct, unambiguous. So, I am saying that this letter, for me, is not right and maybe it should be sent back.” Osinbajo in an answer to a question on twitter confirmed that Buhari handed over power to him as acting president as specified by the constitution. |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by anigbajumo(m): 9:18am On May 10, 2017 |
weyabcom: Dude is making sense, only a foolish person will still argue on this issue. I guess u are listen to ffk nd reno useless nd sentimental statement. You this people need to learn nd stop react to every issues emotionally. What is the noise all about, the opening paragraph said "in compliance with section 145 (1) of 1999 constitution......". Let's step back and see what does the section say before we start yelling and shouting. The section stated that once the senate receives a letter from the president informing them of his vacation or leave, the Vice President will henceforth serve as the acting President, until the president returns. 1 Like |
Re: Meaning Of Acting President VS Coordinating President by Abee79(m): 10:51am On May 10, 2017 |
Elmojiid:Correct!
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