• Ijaw are from Benin
• Ikwerre are from Benin
• 'Anioma' (which is an acronym having nothing to do with 'anioma' in the Igbo language meaning 'good land' or anything to do with a northernly town in Anioma called Anioma, which derives it's name from the Igbo 'anioma' meain 'googd land') are from Benin
Onitsha people are from Benin (Chime, although sounding like an Igbo name, is a Benin man)

Now who will be the next to suck Benin āss trace their root to Benin, it's so wonderful how the ancestors of these people managed to tip toe round their neighbour's the Igbo, besides Igboland being more than 100 times the size (and age) of Benin city. The Benin people must have really loved Igbo culture a lot to have dumped every single aspect of their own besides a few random words and even randomer and sparse surnames, going as far as to worship Igbo gods!

As for the Ijaw, all those years being under the Igbo, intermarrying, trading cultures, and they happened to be from Benin after all? That is so mind boggling, but it's obvious that they came from there, because Igbo people didn't inhabit places now known as Ijaw land because they are afraid of water, they just left a huge piece of land under them for the Ijaw/Benin people to fill. The fact that every explorer on planet Earth that has come to the 'Bight of Biafra' has mistaken the Igbo for Ijaw and Ijaw for 'Ebo country' is just a coincidence, what do they know anyway, it's not like outsiders created countries for us.

Anybody in Anioma, etc with an Igbo sounding name is a coincidence, because 0.001% of Anioma are actually Igbo migrants (they came to sell spare parts, those days they sold horses and cart spare parts).

Oh how I just marvel at the span of the Benin colonies, from [url=http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Uteh+Enugu&sll=5.041015,6.92894&sspn=0.34815,0.435333&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Uteh+Enugu,+Nigeria&ll=6.155574,6.330872&spn=0.347487,0.435333&z=11]Enugu[/url] (in 'Anioma') to [url=http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rumuigbo&sll=4.82997,7.005501&sspn=0.174131,0.217667&ie=UTF8&hq=Rumuigbo&hnear=&ll=4.862469,6.990395&spn=0.043531,0.054417&z=14]Rumuigbo[/url], all the way down to Ubani!

True story.

elementary my dear watson.

no long thing.

And the Binis will remain minority because of immorality and idol worshipping

Ijaws themselves dont deny a link with Benin- ancient benin that is.

The land to the south south of benin was occupied by Ijaws, Itsekiris, Urhobos, etc.

heading in a more southeasterly direction from Benin ( not from current day Nigeria), you find the Calabar, Efik, Annang, Ibibio, and other tribes.

and so on ad infinitum.

Ohafia an Igbo speaking people and a city in Abia state, Nigeria. The Ohafia are best known for their war dance (Igbo: Iri Agha). The largest village in Ohafia is Akanu, Phillip Nsugbe (1974: estimated its population in the mid-sixties to be around 12,000. The ancestral capital of Ohafia is the centrally located village of Elu. The old part of Elu centers on the site where the founder Udumeze first built his fire. This is where the shrine of the paramount lineage can be found. Ohafia is part of the Ohafia Local Government Area (LGA) which also includes the towns of Abiriba and Nkporo.[1]
[edit]History

The Ohafia people fomerly known as "MBEN" are said to be Hebrew Descendants, they migrated from Isreal to Benin city in Edo state, then from Benin to Umuafia Ibeku and from there to their current settlement. The migration resulted in the ultimate formation of 26 villages. Some of these villages eventually came together to form autonomous communities.
[edit]The Ohafia Warrior Tradition

The history of Onitsha began with the migration of its people from the[b] Benin[/b] Empire towards the end of early part of the Sixteenth Century AD. The migration was as a result of a wave of unrest, war and displacement unleashed by the Islamic movement from North Africa.

See, we are all from Benin after all.

ezeagu:

See, we are all from Benin after all.

I am glad that has now been sorted out.

thesame story goes round and round.middle east + benin = igbo.

i dont believe that.i think most nigerians migrated from central africa.

Can you evidence this middle eastern / israeli link?

Abagworo:

thesame story goes round and round.middle east + benin = igbo.

i dont believe that.i think most nigerians migrated from central africa.

I thought the 'Bantu' migrated from Cross River?

Ezeagu pls clarify dis issue. The history of the Nri kingdom then compare the date withdat of the benin kingdom and oduduwa kingdom.

SapeleGuy:

Can you evidence this middle eastern / israeli link?

our ancestors don die finish so the evidence don follow dem waka.that thing na folktale.we be black and beautiful people like ghana,cameroun and zambia.

SapeleGuy:

Can you evidence this middle eastern / israeli link?

our ancestors don die finish so the evidence don follow dem waka.that thing na folktale.we be black and beautiful people like ghana,cameroun and zambia.

I think Ezeagu is being sarcastic with this post

ezeagu:

As for the Ijaw, all those years being under the Igbo, intermarrying, trading cultures, and they happened to be from Benin after all? That is so mind boggling, but it's obvious that they came from there, because Igbo people didn't inhabit places now known as Ijaw land because they are afraid of water, they just left a huge piece of land under them for the Ijaw/Benin people to fill. The fact that every explorer on planet Earth that has come to the 'Bight of Biafra' has mistaken the Igbo for Ijaw and Ijaw for 'Ebo country' is just a coincidence, what do they know anyway, it's not like outsiders created countries for us.

Nna mechonu dia!

[s]We didnt land on Plymouth rock, Plymouth rock landed on us.[/s]

Igbos didnt leave the delta for Ijaws to fill. . . . the Ijaws left the upland for the Igbos to fill!!!

The Oru-Ijaw people are the aborigines of Nigeria.

Benin is simply one of our migratory routes, not the origin of our existence. We were the first to set foot in Benin, Warri, and everywhere in else in Nigeria we passed on our way southward.

We didnt originate from Benin. Benin originated from us.

U know nigerians have a way of "blowing things out of proportion".
The bronze collected @ nriland dates back
Dats y I said go check the history of nri kingdom.
We should please go on with facts and not the lies that have been recycled over and over.
check this http://archaeology.about.com/od/iterms/g/igbo_ukwu.htm
http://archaeology.about.com/od/nterms/g/nri.htm

Yorubas also originated from Benin- True story!
Eko( Lagos) is a Bini word!

The Binis are a great people. They are the fathers of Southern Nigeria- hate it or love it!!

Bini claims arose largely as a result of fear of Nigerian troops destroying lives and properties during the civil war. Some groups who were hitherto Igbo started disclaiming Igbo. Most of them began to claim Bini ancestry. Someone like Elechi Amadi-i.e the one who was kidnapped about a year ago began to write or rewrite history. That clown is not known as a historian yet came up with a junk story which clowns like him have now believed.
Secondly, The British, on arrival in Nigeria saw the Binis as a very civilised and sophisticated group. This has led to some groups claiming Bini. In actual fact, no one is from Bini.

PapaBrowne:

Yorubas also originated from Benin- True story!
Eko( Lagos) is a Bini word!

The Binis are a great people. They are the fathers of Southern Nigeria- hate it or love it!!

Was that an opinion? How did Yoruba originate from Bini?
The first Oba of Benin, Eweka, was the son of Oranmiyan, an Ife prince. Oranmiyan was the son of Oduduwa. How could Yoruba have originated from Bini if Benin's first Oba was a Yoruba prince?

Some historians contend that Oduduwa was in fact Ekaladerhan, a bini prince. Whether that is true or not, what is known is that, when Oduduwa got to Ife, there were already Yoruba people there and Ife was one of several Yoruba states. Its like saying that English people originated from France because William the conqueror was french. When William defeated the saxons in 1066, there were already english people living in England.

Katsumoto:

Was that an opinion? How did Yoruba originate from Bini?
The first Oba of Benin, Eweka, was the son of Oranmiyan, an Ife prince. Oranmiyan was the son of Oduduwa. How could Yoruba have originated from Bini if Benin's first Oba was a Yoruba prince?

Some historians contend that Oduduwa was in fact Ekaladerhan, a bini prince. Whether that is true or not, what is known is that, when Oduduwa got to Ife, there were already Yoruba people there and Ife was one of several Yoruba states. Its like saying that English people originated from France because William the conqueror was french. When William defeated the saxons in 1066, there were already english people living in England.

With the bolded part, you've answered the question. Oduduwa was in fact Ekaladerhan!
It is possible a group of people existed in Ife before the arrival of Ekaladerhan, however,there is no way to know for sure that they were Yorubas, as there are no records regarding customs or artworks Pre-Oduduwa.

Yoruba Folklore actually claims Oduduwa as the origin of the Yorubas, hence, if Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan, then the Yorubas(through Oduduwa) definitely originated from the Bini Kingdom!

PapaBrowne:

With the bolded part, you've answered the question. Oduduwa was in fact Ekaladerhan!
It is possible a group of people existed in Ife before the arrival of Ekaladerhan, however,there is no way to know for sure that they were Yorubas, as there are no records regarding customs or artworks Pre-Oduduwa.

Yoruba Folklore actually claims Oduduwa as the origin of the Yorubas, hence, if Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan, then the Yorubas(through Oduduwa) definitely originated from the Bini Kingdom!

So there were Yoruba states but we are not sure there were Yoruba people. So when the Bini prince got to Ife, he expelled those that occupied the land and filled it with his offsprings. That is very ludicrous.
There were people in Ife when Oduduwa got there
Ife was not the only Yoruba state.
In conclusion, Yoruba did not originate from Bini. The Ife king may have or may not have been the Bini prince. That part is very sketchy. Lets go with what is generally accepted as fact rather than what is just speculation.

There is only one group in Southern Nigeria that can tell history with astonishing precision; they are the Edo.
The Edo accounts of Ekhaladeran are of a precision that puts the Oduduwa story in the dust, they give exact years, actions, realistic descriptions etc. It is without doubt that Oduduwa was Ekhaladeran, a Bini prince.

The Edo's claim to have migrated from Egypt to their present areas. The Ijaws, who are the earliest known ethnic group in Southern Nigeria, claim that the Edo's drove them out of Benin.

Some Isoko's and Urhobo's claim a descent from Egypt, others claim to have left Benin before the period of the Ogiso's. Their languages share similarities to Bini and are grouped as Edoid.

The Ijaws claim that all Yoruba's who are descendants of Obatala are descended from Ijaw people.

I am not too familiar with the history of Anioma Igbo's (including Onisha), but their oral traditions say that they too are from Benin. I am not sure if this was before or after the Ogiso era. If it was after, then language disparity throws up several questions (except the Bini connection was just a handful of rulers).

Beaf:

There is only one group in Southern Nigeria that can tell history with astonishing precision; they are the Edo.
The Edo accounts of Ekhaladeran are of a precision that puts the Oduduwa story in the dust, they give exact years, actions, realistic descriptions etc. It is without doubt that Oduduwa was Ekhaladeran, a Bini prince.

The Edo's claim to have migrated from Egypt to their present areas. The Ijaws, who are the earliest known ethnic group in Southern Nigeria, claim that the Edo's drove them out of Benin.

Some Isoko's and Urhobo's claim a descent from Egypt, others claim to have left Benin before the period of the Ogiso's. Their languages share similarities to Bini and are grouped as Edoid.

The Ijaws claim that all Yoruba's who are descendants of Obatala are descended from Ijaw people.

I am not too familiar with the history of Anioma Igbo's (including Onisha), but their oral traditions say that they too are from Benin. I am not sure if this was before or after the Ogiso era. If it was after, then language disparity throws up several questions (except the Bini connection was just a handful of rulers).

Yet Benin has not yielded any archaeological evidence to show that it was older than 3000 years, if there is please post it. Findings at Okigwe are pre-historic.

Ibime:


Nna mechonu dia!

[s]We didnt land on Plymouth rock, Plymouth rock landed on us.[/s]

Igbos didnt leave the delta for Ijaws to fill. . . . the Ijaws left the upland for the Igbos to fill!!!

The Oru-Ijaw people are the aborigines of Nigeria.

Benin is simply one of our migratory routes, not the origin of our existence. We were the first to set foot in Benin, Warri, and everywhere in else in Nigeria we passed on our way southward.

We didnt originate from Benin. Benin originated from us.

It's a lie, I am from BENIN!

3000 years ago, the vast majority of Nigerian tribes werent in existence.

I'd say about 98% of them.

tpia.:

3000 years ago, the vast majority of Nigerian tribes werent in existence.

I'd say about 98% of them.

Uh . . . .

The march of Igbo civilisation: from 4000 B.C. to present day‎

That would be 6000 years.

ezeagu:

Uh . . . .

The march of Igbo civilisation: from 4000 B.C. to present day‎

That would be 6000 years.

that would be the prototype, not the current day Igbos.

1561 map of north and west Africa, drawn by an Italian cartographer (I think). I'm guessing the Portuguese had probably heard of benin faintly through their north African contacts, who in turn may have known of the southern/western coast of Africa from the northern or maybe eastern African coast people.






there's another older north African map which I cant locate, also showing Benin, if my memory serves me right. Benin probably either supplied slaves back then or was a source of slaves- nothing sentimental.

there was actually an era of great intermingling during which some benin people came to igbo and yorubaland,igbos went to yorubaland and bini while yorubas came to bini and igboland.the presence of some yoruba words in igbo(or rather igbo words in yoruba) indicates this mix up.there was also another movement of igbos to the shore and ijaws upland.the oru tribe is extinct(swallowed by ijaws and igbos).

tpia.:



there's another older north African map which I cant locate, also showing Benin, if my memory serves me right. Benin probably either supplied slaves back then or was a source of slaves- nothing sentimental.

You are plain evil. Stop using sneaky ways to brandish Edos as slave suppliers albeit calling them ashewo suppliers and backstabbers last time.  Last time I checked, you were not being sentimental then. There were no Yoruba who supplied slaves that time?. What do you hate other ethnic groups so much. You are inherently evil.

If that is true then Igbos have the same ancestors as the Yorubas but I highly doubt the thread title is true.



Yorubas are not descendants of Oduduwa. Many myths surrounds the Oduduwa theory. Some claims he fled Egypt during a race or religious war. No Yoruba folklore talks about Oduduwa as our ancestor. Stop diverting History with your filthy mouth. You watched the Oduduwa stupid movie and thought you know about Yorubas. Orumila, the first son of Heaven. Olodumare is our God father and he sent Obatala down not Oduduwa. Ife still has Oduduwa's offsprings therefore they pushed the propaganda of Oduduwa really hard. Ask Yorubas in Togo if they believe the Oduduwa story. They don't know who da fuk Oduduwa is. One of the oldest Yorubas are the Ijebu people and they don't believe Oduduwa was their ancestor. A great wall built in Ijebu Igbo was said to be built for Bilkis Sungbo (another name of the Queen of Sheba).


Now this is what they oral history: Ijebu ode and Ijebu Igbo, owo bilikisu ni won na. Bilikisu is the rich queen and the song says both Ijebu Igbo and Ijebu ode are spending Bilqis' money. Understand there was nothing like Nigeria back then so don't be trying to understand tribal history by just Nigerian tribes alone. Most Nigerian tribes are sub tribes of other tribes from another country including the Yorubas