Here is a video of a girl who claims to get her inspirations from the Christian God, She claims the bible god sends her vision of himself and heaven and she drew what she vividly saw and remembered. She drew god and talked about how he looked like . . . .There are some Christians here (like Noetic) who also claim that the Christian god has appeared to them before . .I just want to know if the god that appeared to the Christians here on NL is a white man with blue eyes, long hair and pointed nose. . . .The girl is a VERY great artist. . . . . .She is truly a prodigy. . . .Is the bible god a white man?   

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hehehehehe. . . . white Jesus. . . . na colomentality be dat o. . . na so my Nigerian evangelicals dey always see caucasian Jesus for their vision. .  .



Mr. Ransome you make you hear
Mr. Williams you make you hear
Mr. Allia you make you hear
Mr. Mohammed you make you hear
Mr. Anglican you make you hear
Mr. Bishop you make you hear
Mr. Catholic you make you hear
Mr. Muslim you make you hear

Na Africa we dey o make you hear
Na Africa we dey o make you hear
Colo-mentality hear
Colo-mentality hear
Mr. Ransome you make you hear
Mr. Ransome you make you hear
Na Africa we dey o make you hear
Na Africa we dey o make you hear
Colo-mentality hear
Colo-mentality hear

Ibime:

hehehehehe. . . . white Jesus. . . . na colomentality be dat o. . . na so my Nigerian evangelicals dey always see caucasian Jesus for their vision. .  .

. . . .There are some that have claimed to have seen Jesus appear to them in their dreams(I wonder why it has to be in a dream). I have asked them to describe how he looks like and all I get is meaningless rambling and evasion. . They never answer the question at all. . . .So is the Christian God a white man?

God cannot be seen.

God is intangible in all respects.

The girl is a truly great artist, and a fabulous prodigy, but i disbelieve her claim to that she "sees" God.

Talented people always have great imaginations, so i will be inclined to approach this from the perspective of imagination.

More importantly, the imaginations of vastly talented children always seem so real to them, that it amounts to an alternate reality.

Deep Sight:

God cannot be seen.

God is intangible in all respects.

What you are saying is that your god is abstract that means your god is NOTHING. . . .

Thus you assert that anything that is intangible in the sense that it cannot be seen is nothing? ? ?

Even by scientific standards there are many forces that are intangible to the extent that they cannot be seen, and yet they exist.

Please reboot, Mazaje.

Deep Sight:

Thus you assert that anything that is intangible in the sense that it cannot be seen is nothing? ? ?

Even by scientific standards there are many forces that are intangible to the extent that they cannot be seen, and yet they exist.

Please reboot, Mazaje.

OK. . .oneness of infinity is an intangible and an abstract entity. . .Nice to know. . . .But it seems like the Christian God is a white man no?

^^^^ Yes he is definitely a white man, and he has colonized and brainwashed us; that's why our people are so shameless that they are happy to declare that one Jewish Rabbi is ALMIGHTY GOD!

the girl try oh,she see God shei.na outrite lie

God speaks to man in a way that he can understand. He is not physically tangible, but he can reveal himself to any one who so desires in anyway he so desires; the same way mazaje can choose the words with which he wants to convey his expression. If the girl says that is how she saw God, I cannot tell maybe she is lying or she speaks the truth. This is because the way God reveals himself to her (or not) is her business, and God's business. And if she is lying, how does that affect my own faith? Even if someone says God appeared to him in the form of a black man, how does it affect my salvation?

One thing that non-Christians never realize is that walking with God is a personal thing. As Jesus asked Peter when he wasn't minding his business but trying to evaluate another person's revelational walk with God, "Wetin konsain you?"

Joh 21:22 Jesus said to him, If I want him to stay (survive, live) until I come, what is that to you? [What concern is it of yours?] You follow Me!

@mazaje: What concern is it of yours? Whether he appears to someone as a Red Indian, Fulani or as an Eskimo, how exactly does that concern you?

Mavenb0x:


@mazaje: What concern is it of yours? Whether he appears to someone as a Red Indian, Fulani or as an Eskimo, how exactly does that concern you?

She said she saw god in heaven and she drew what she saw, the picture of the god she claimed she saw in heaven was a white man and she said she drew what she remembered. . . .The god she saw had a blueish green eyes LOL. . . .I just wantred to know if other NL christians also saw a white man when the christian god appeared to them as some here have claimed. . . .Is the christian god a white man? I have never heard any body claim that any black man in god form appeared to him or her. . . . .

God cant be seen by any human. The girl is lying.

Where are the christians that usually claim to have see god? They should please come to this thread to compare and contrast the god they saw with this girl's god.

Cyberfreak:

Where are the christians that usually claim to have see god? They should please come to this thread to compare and contrast the god they saw with this girl's god.

I fully support the motion. . .LOL. . . .

Cyberfreak:

Where are the christians that usually claim to have see god? They should please come to this thread to compare and contrast the god they saw with this girl's god.

Is this response, below, good enough for you?

Mavenb0x:

God speaks to man in a way that he can understand. He is not physically tangible, but he can reveal himself to any one who so desires in anyway he so desires; the same way mazaje can choose the words with which he wants to convey his expression. If the girl says that is how she saw God, I cannot tell maybe she is lying or she speaks the truth. This is because the way God reveals himself to her (or not) is her business, and God's business. And if she is lying, how does that affect my own faith? Even if someone says God appeared to him in the form of a black man, how does it affect my salvation?

One thing that non-Christians never realize is that walking with God is a personal thing. As Jesus asked Peter when he wasn't minding his business but trying to evaluate another person's revelational walk with God, "Wetin konsain you?"

Joh 21:22 Jesus said to him, If I want him to stay (survive, live) until I come, what is that to you? [What concern is it of yours?] You follow Me!

^LOL. You guys never run out of excuses for your ridiculous practises do you?
That your bit about 'God speaks to man in a way that he can understand' does not hold water. The idea of 'god' appearing in plenty different forms to different people sounds funny. It would definitely lead to confusion and doubt.
It would be far, far better if a similar image is shown to all the people, because;
1. It would be easier to believe that it was actually God that appeared to the people since who they saw was similar and this similarity could lead to some people seeing sense in what you said and going ahead to accept christianity.
2. There is more chance that people would take your claims serious and not fall into bouts of laughter after hearing about your 'visions' of a multiracial and multifaced and multiple identity disorder 'god'.

Mavenb0x:

God speaks to man in a way that he can understand. He is not physically tangible, but he can reveal himself to any one who so desires in anyway he so desires; the same way mazaje can choose the words with which he wants to convey his expression. If the girl says that is how she saw God, I cannot tell maybe she is lying or she speaks the truth. This is because the way God reveals himself to her (or not) is her business, and God's business. And if she is lying, how does that affect my own faith? Even if someone says God appeared to him in the form of a black man, how does it affect my salvation?

One thing that non-Christians never realize is that walking with God is a personal thing. As Jesus asked Peter when he wasn't minding his business but trying to evaluate another person's revelational walk with God, "Wetin konsain you?"

Joh 21:22 Jesus said to him, If I want him to stay (survive, live) until I come, what is that to you? [What concern is it of yours?] You follow Me!

@mazaje: What concern is it of yours? Whether he appears to someone as a Red Indian, Fulani or as an Eskimo, how exactly does that concern you?

The above is really very weird. So God can reveal Himself as the devil? So he can appear to someone as Hitler? He can appear as Nero, or momy-water?

Do you people think enough about what you write before you write it. Religious fanaticism is bad.

^I like this.

seeklove:

The above is really very weird. So God can reveal Himself as the devil? So he can appear to someone as Hitler? He can appear as Nero, or momy-water?
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If that's the interpretation that rocks your boat, then i don't know what to say!

seeklove:

Do you people think enough about what you write before you write it. Religious fanaticism is bad.

Ignorance is, indeed, even worse.

Cyberfreak:

It would be far, far better if a similar image is shown to all the people, because;
1. It would be easier to believe that it was actually God that appeared to the people since who they saw was similar and this similarity could lead to some people seeing sense in what you said and going ahead to accept christianity.
2. There is more chance that people would take your claims serious and not fall into bouts of laughter after hearing about your 'visions' of a multiracial and multifaced and multiple identity disorder 'god'.

I know you were not looking for any answers but i will try to give you one all the same. Such a God, as the one, you would have concieved' would then not be God but just another man made falliable creation.

Mind you, people have tried to box God into one form or the other, trying to make Him into becoming more 'reasonable' and thus 'believable' or culturally acceptable. That's why there have been different icons, images and myths accross the millenia all trying to represent God in ways that man is capable of connecting with. Perhaps, in that, one can say that the different religions of man have created their own images of God in order to understand Him or appropriate Him better.

But God is not limited by man's conceptualisations of Him. He exists in spite of what man makes of Him.

Man, with our puny and falliable capacity to concieve of concepts that exist outside of our dimension, is not even able to wrap our heads around such extradimensional creations of God as 'timelessness' and 'nothingness', how much more will we be able to apprehend the entity that made these things. So it's not difficult to understand the dilemma of those who would rather not believe in Him. That is the path of least resistance.

It's God's prerogative to reveal Himself to man in ways that man can understand. He may choose to reveal Himself as the soothing voice in the wind; or as the burning bush that refuses to burn; He may reveal Himself as man or as an unseen spirit that comforts; He may decide to be a God that shows mercy or one that rains down retribution.

'God is not physically tangible, so can reveal himself to any one who so desires in anyway He so desires'.

beneli:

Mind you, people have tried to box God into one form or the other, trying to make Him into becoming more 'reasonable' and thus 'believable' or culturally acceptable. That's why there have been different icons, images and myths accross the millenia all trying to represent God in ways that man is capable of connecting with. Perhaps, in that, one can say that the different religions of man have created their own images of God in order to understand Him or appropriate Him better.

The day you point to the existence of any god independent of man made stories, cultural myths, societal influence and acceptance then some of us will beging to believe you know what you are talking about. . .

But God is not limited by man's conceptualisations of Him. He exists in spite of what man makes of Him.

Pls point to the existence of any god that is independent of man made myths, stories and influence. . . . .

Man, with our puny and falliable capacity to concieve of concepts that exist outside of our dimension, is not even able to wrap our heads around such extradimensional creations of God as 'timelessness' and 'nothingness', how much more will we be able to apprehend the entity that made these things. So it's not difficult to understand the dilemma of those who would rather not believe in Him. That is the path of least resistance.

More drivel. . . .You are just pushing your what ever concept of god into the relm of the unknown because you KNOW very well that the hypothesis is not self evident and can NOT stand on its own  what you are saying here is that your god is NOTHING. . . .Your evidence to show that there is something that exist outside of our dimension is what? Timelessness and nothingness means NOTHING. . .Even the god of the bible is not above or out side the concept of time as some of you are trying to have others believe. . . It is written in the bible that god is the beginning and the end. . . that alone shows that he can not be outside of time if he were to exists. . . .

It's God's prerogative to reveal Himself to man in ways that man can understand. He may choose to reveal Himself as the soothing voice in the wind; or as the burning bush that refuses to burn; He may reveal Himself as man or as an unseen spirit that comforts; He may decide to be a God that shows mercy or one that rains down retribution.

Have you ever seen a burning bush that refuses to burn or did you read another of the myths that some group men wrote about their god?. . . . .Your evidence to show that there is a god that rains down mercy or retribution is what?. . . . .

'God is not physically tangible, so can reveal himself to any one who so desires in anyway He so desires'.

That means god is nothing. . . .Again your evidence to show that there is a god that has desires is what?

seeklove:

The above is really very weird. So God can reveal Himself as the devil? So he can appear to someone as Hitler? He can appear as Nero, or momy-water?

Do you people think enough about what you write before you write it. Religious fanaticism is bad.

This argument is rather moot, seeklove. Are you telling me that the God you serve is limited in expression? Why did you have to choose those options: Hitler, Lucifer, An aqua-marine spirit? Is that the limit of your own imagination?

If I say that gases can take the shape of any container, does it make sense to start asking me if it can take the shape of a basket, knowing fully well that it is not an enclosed container?

Anyway, scratch that. My point is that these things are spiritual, and by the way, if God appeared to you in His TRUE form (which is irrational, seeing that he is not a physical entity, there is no such TRUE form), would you recognize him? Do you think he would, in that wise, be in form of a human being? If you think so, that is what is really senseless and weird!

Drawing god and heaven indeed.  . She is obviously a very talented artist.

Her visions of "heaven" are nothing that couldn't be seen on earth. God is a really good looking white dude with blue eyes,  pointed nose and other features of the white man. She anthropomorphises god like everyone else does. I imagine if she were born in Iran or Pakistan, her paintings would be of Muhammed and Allah, and she'd be singing the praises of Islam.

Mavenb0x:

This argument is rather moot, seeklove. Are you telling me that the God you serve is limited in expression? Why did you have to choose those options: Hitler, Lucifer, An aqua-marine spirit? Is that the limit of your own imagination?

If I say that gases can take the shape of any container, does it make sense to start asking me if it can take the shape of a basket, knowing fully well that it is not an enclosed container?

Anyway, scratch that. My point is that these things are spiritual, and by the way, if God appeared to you in His TRUE form (which is irrational, seeing that he is not a physical entity, there is no such TRUE form), would you recognize him? Do you think he would, in that wise, be in form of a human being? If you think so, that is what is really senseless and weird!

Please spare me the mombojunbo! Yes air can and does fill baskets.  A container does not have to be enclosed for air to fill it! But that's not part of the argument. You claimed that God can take any form, and I asked if God can take the form of Hitler. Then you came up with that basket mombojombo.

God does not appear in the form of humabeings! God appeared on earth in the person of Jesus. A part of God can incarnate on earth in a humanbody but God Himself cannot reveal himself to any humanbeing. None has seen God!

Christ can re-incarnate on earth if He wants. And yes reincarnation is real! I saw your argument in another thread denying reincarnation, which is even hinted in the Bible.

And yes I am telling you that God is limited in his expression. God is limited to goodness. God does not and cannot do evil. Yes God is limited in His expression, he cannot express himself as the devil or mommy-water.

Point of correction, mommy-water is not aqua-marine spirit. Mommy water is not a spirit.

seeklove:


And yes I am telling you that God is limited in his expression. God is limited to goodness. God does not and cannot do evil. Yes God is limited in His expression, he cannot express himself as the devil or mommy-water.

According to the bible god has evil spirits and sends them to torment people some times. He sent his evil spirits to torment Saul.

So the sum total is this - god appears to some people in a form he thinks they will be comfortable with.

Ndipe:

God cant be seen by any human. The girl is lying.

Which means that all those pastors who claim to have seen god or to have received prophesies from him are all liars.

Mavenb0x:

God speaks to man in a way that he can understand. He is not physically tangible, but he can reveal himself to any one who so desires in anyway he so desires; the same way mazaje can choose the words with which he wants to convey his expression. If the girl says that is how she saw God, I cannot tell maybe she is lying or she speaks the truth. This is because the way God reveals himself to her (or not) is her business, and God's business. And if she is lying, how does that affect my own faith? Even if someone says God appeared to him in the form of a black man, how does it affect my salvation? 

One thing that non-Christians never realize is that walking with God is a personal thing. As Jesus asked Peter when he wasn't minding his business but trying to evaluate another person's revelational walk with God, "Wetin konsain you?"

Joh 21:22  Jesus said to him, If I want him to stay (survive, live) until I come, what is that to you? [What concern is it of yours?] You follow Me!

@mazaje: What concern is it of yours? Whether he appears to someone as a Red Indian, Fulani or as an Eskimo, how exactly does that concern you?

I fail to understand this point. Either god speaks to man or he doesn't. If the being is not tangible, how would you know that the thing conversing with you is God. I you claim that someone intangible has been speaking to you, I would start doubting your sanity. Why should my reaction be different because you say that your intangible friend is God?
Besides, the images do not look intangible to me. This girl (according to her) saw a tangible being. Instead of interviewing her on CNN, she should have been taken to the nearest psychiatric facility.

@last 4 posts: Talk to my hand

Mavenb0x:

@last 4 posts: Talk to my hand

I understand your hand is more inteligent than your brain. Your brain simply ignorant, therefore I rather talk to your hand.

@seeklove: Since you're such a ninnyhammer, and you're too fatuous to see what i was saying, eat this from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_to_the_hand_%28expression%29

"Talk to the hand" (or "tell it to the hand" is an English language slang phrase associated with the 1990s. It originated as a contemptuous way of saying that no one is listening, and is often elongated to a phrase such as "Talk to the hand, because the ear's not listening".

Mavenb0x:

@seeklove: Since you're such a ninnyhammer, and you're too fatuous to see what i was saying, eat this from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_to_the_hand_%28expression%29

I know what "talk to the hand" means. I've lived in America for 10 years. Go and watch 'Terminator 3: The rise of the machines' there you will see talk to the hands.

Mavenb0x:

@last 4 posts: Talk to my hand 

How very intelligent. When you have no answers, you resort to abuse. Mumu.

@deepsight
guy r u an atheist or a christian ,,,cuz s/times u sound like one ,other times u sound like d other,
pls reply.