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Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Oboma1(m): 9:53am On Jan 23, 2010
Obasanjo lied on Yar’Adua –Kalu
• David -West, Akintola, Keyamo, Odumakin also fault ex-president
By TAIWO AMODU [amodu @sunnewsonline.com]
From GODWIN TSA, Abuja
Saturday, January 23, 2010


Former president and chairman of the People democratic Party (PDP) Board of Trustees, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, has come under attack for saying that he did not know that President Umar Musa Yar’Adua was sick before supporting him to the office in 2007.

Obasanjo had, on Thursday, said, at the 7th annual dialogue organized by Daily Trust Newspaper, that he was not aware that ailing President Yar’Adua, who has been in Saudi Arabia for medical attention, was not medically fit for the exalted office of president. He had also asked the president to resign if he is not medically fit to continue in office.

He had said: “Nobody picked Yar’Adua so that he will not perform; if I do that, God will punish me. Yes, because I love this country so much and there is no reason why I should do that.”
Reacting yesterday to Obasanjo’s comments, a wide range of eminent Nigerians said he lied.

Dr. Orji Uzor Kalu, former Abia State governor, speaking in a telephone interview from London yesterday, said: “Obasanjo is the most dishonest Nigerian living, to say he did not know that Yar’Adua was sick. He has lied again, just as he did on 3rd term. He thought Yar’Adua would die during the campaign and he, Obasanjo, would continue in office. Instead of apologizing to Nigerians, he’s making this silly comment.
“Yar’Adua is my personal friend. I wish him well. I want him to survive and come back as soon as possible. But Jonathan should not allow the country to collapse. Let them not prove John Negroponte, who said Nigeria will collapse in 15 years right.

“Jonathan was sworn in same day as Yar’Adua. He should continue the policies of the administration. He should sack whoever is not cooperating with him. He should not allow the country to collapse. Nigeria is too civilized to bear with liars like Obasanjo.”
Former Minister of Petroleum and Professor of Virology, Professor Tam David-West accused Obasanjo of trying to play the Pontius Pilate at this crucial period. He said that when Nigerians were worried about the state of health of Yar’Adua, at the heat of the presidential election campaign, Obasanjo had said the anxiety was misplaced.

David-West said: “That is a lie. Obasanjo is being economical with the fact and the truth, because when they said Yar’Adua was not well, Obasanjo said anyone who said Yar’Adua wasn’t well was the person not well. Now Obasanjo can’t play the Pontius Pilate. He can’t deny that he brought Yar’Adua. He imposed Yar’Adua and Jonathan, to the extent that Yar’Adua’s mother was taken to Otta farm to thank Obasanjo and I came out in The Sun to say Yar’Adua crated his old mother to go and thank Obasanjo. Now, Obasanjo cannot deny this.”

The professor said Obasanjo’s comments were reported by Daily Sun on January 4, 2007, with a headline: “Presidency: Dr Obasanjo certifies Yar’Adua medically fit.”
In the report, Obasanjo had said: “I know all about Umaru’s ailment and it disappeared since 2001. It was a miracle. So those calling him a sick man are the ones who are sick. After all, only God can tell who will be sick or not. I wonder how somebody can open his mouth and say a human being created by God is a sick man. I am sure he has proved to those who say he cannot stand stress that all that is not true.”

David-West expressed shock that Obasanjo could now turn round to deny that he ever knew.
He said: “I have my records. So, Obasanjo is a liar and Yar’Adua himself came out to say anyone who said he was not well, let him come and play squash with him. These are all records. So, Obasanjo’s present position is not only economical with the truth and fact, he has also decapitated the truth. I suspect that he is angry with the man because he thought he could control the man from his Otta farm, but he failed.”
Secretary of Afenifere Renewal Group, Mr. Yinka Odumakin also said Obasanjo is economical with the truth.

According to him, “Obasanjo is trying to deceive Nigerians, because Yar’Adua is no longer in a position to talk and he knows that the man is incapacitated. How can he say that he wasn’t aware of Yar’Adua’s illness? When they were campaigning Yar’Adua collapsed; they rushed him abroad and Obasanjo was asking him, ‘Umoru are you alive?.”

“Obasanjo can’t claim not to know that Yar’Adua has health problem. As governor of Katsina State, he would stay abroad for six months on medical grounds. What he did was to use Yar’Adua to service his personal desire, thinking that he would die before the election so that he won’t hand over and elongate his tenure. That was Obasanjo’s permutation. So, for him now to be telling us that he wasn’t aware is a lie from the pit of hell. He should just shut up!

“Anything he wants to say about Yar’Adua, he should say it to the marines. We aren’t a nation of fools; all he is saying now is clear deception and Obasanjo is a fox any way.”
Chief Niyi Akintola, a Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN), on his part, said: “We should address issue here. The issue is, was Yar’Adua the only person that was competent from the North-West, or in the entire North to take over from Obasanjo? I watched the old man yesterday and I couldn’t but pity him. You see, his statement of yesterday was coming too late. He cannot run away from the fact that he imposed Yar’Adua on us. He made sure that there was no internal democracy in PDP.

The notable ones that came out and that could have contested with Yar’Adua were chased out of the party, deregistered or prevented from contesting. If you were in doubt, ask Adamu, the then governor of Nasarawa State. Jubril Aminu is there; highly educated, urbane, well exposed and Atiku was chased out. All these people were hounded out of contesting the race by Obasanjo.

“What happened that led to the emergence of Yar’Adua was nothing but a charade. It was a despicable act. He imposed him and cannot claim otherwise. So, Obasanjo cannot, in honesty, claim ignorance of what happened, or absolve himself of complicity. He caused it. Obasanjo dug the grave of Nigerians too deep and he himself is inside the grave with Nigerians and nobody could get out. May God save us.”

Lagos lawyer, Mr. Festus Keyamo, said: “My own reaction is that, Obasanjo is facing the script that he wrote. This script was created by him. As a result, Nigerians must decide the fate and the future of Yar’Adua. We can no longer allow Obasanjo to lead any kind of reform, or any kind of call for change. He cannot do that, because he lacks the moral right; he lacks the moral leverage; he lacks the acceptability to do that. If Obasanjo wants to be honest with himself and his God, he should go back to his bedroom and pray for forgiveness for what he had done. He should leave Nigerians to lick their wounds. He should not add insult to injury.”

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Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Oboma1(m): 9:55am On Jan 23, 2010
Everybody knew Yar’Adua was sick before election — Anyim
From KENNY ASHAKA and AMOS DUNIA, Abuja
Saturday, January 23, 2010.


Former Senate President, Chief Anyim Pius Anyim, has given reasons the National Assembly should take decisive steps to resolve the controversy surrounding the absence of President Umar Musa Yar’Adua from the seat of power for 61 days owing to ill-health.

Speaking less than 24 hours after leading some eminent Nigerians to the National Assembly, in Abuja, to lend his voice to the agitation that the vacuum at the Presidency must be filled, Anyim told Saturday Sun that the onus is on federal lawmakers to resolved the matter.

He said: “I believe that the pressure should mount on the National Assembly to take whatever step they deem fit to resolve the impasse. If we protest in the market place, it does not address it. If we protest in the streets, it does not address it.

It will rather bring down the system. But the National Assembly is properly positioned, as the representative of the people that should rise to the occasion in a circumstance like this.” Anyim also said that the whole country knew, before the 2007 election, that Yar’Adua was sick. He spoke on these and other matters.

Why did it take you a very long time to come out with what may be considered as the deciding factor?
I must confess that the trend has been in this country for people with full or half understanding of issues to jump out to be seen, to be heard and so on. But I do not think I should be worried about being heard or being seen. God has given me an opportunity that at least I can say for today, Nigerians have heard me before.

They have seen me before. So, to come out to speak on issues that I know are fundamental and critically important to the survival of this nation, it has to be well thought out. You discover that I didn’t simply wake up and jumped out to generate an opinion. I consulted very widely and we were able to get a number of very well seasoned Nigerians together. We brainstormed and we agreed that there must be an opinion that will address the real issue, so that the perspective of the issues should be brought to the fore and those who are supposed to act will now actually see reason and need for which they must act. We have no need to struggle to be seen or heard. So, we took our time because we wanted to act in the best interest of the nation.

How were you able to get these personalities?
It was really something I wouldn’t say was systematic because it was like you talk to this person on his views. I want to ventilate my mind. The person will give his views and you talk to another person. So, after some time, we now said okay, let’s put our thoughts together. I talk to you; you talk to another and when we discovered that we have a number of us that have the same thinking pattern, we then came together to put up a common paper.

What were the challenges?
We are concerned and every reasonable Nigerian should be concerned. I can confess to you that whatever I am today and, of course, the reason you want to hear my voice is for democracy. Democracy gave me an opportunity in this country. I struggled for democracy and I put my career on the line. Remember, I left office and refused to contest anymore because I believe that if things are not done the way they should be done, then democracy is under threat and we mustn’t continue in office just because we benefit from it. So, for me, the sustenance of democracy and advancement of democracy in this country is more important than anything the people can imagine. Our concern is for democracy. Our concern is for the unity of the country.

Could it then be said that Nigeria is now a rudderless state?
Well, I may not use your own word, but I will want to put it in my own way. Whether it is rudderless or whether there is a rudder, there are two things. I have tried and we have brainstormed and we consider that it must not be allowed to happen. It must not be allowed to be seen or perceived that the North wouldn’t want the South to take over power. It must also not be allowed to be seen that Yar’Adua’s camp does not want Jonathan’s camp to take over. It is very dangerous. We are talking about the constitution and upholding the constitution and there are constituted authorities that should act and we should allow them to act. That’s our position. I believe that if the President is away and the Vice President is involved, then the National Assembly is the third to act. I believe that the pressure should mount on the National Assembly to take whatever step they deem fit to resolve the impasse. If we protest in the market place, it does not address it. If we protest in the streets, it does not address it. It will rather bring down the system. But the National Assembly is properly positioned, as the representative of the people, that should rise up to the occasion in a circumstance like this.

The National Assembly is saying that sections 144 and 145 are not clear on this matter. Would it not amount to a breach of the Act?
That is why I said people should actually understand the issues before the argument. If you look at section 143, it’s where you can remove a President for gross misconduct and it’s the parliament that will do that. Whatever the parliament does, whatever argument you have come up with, it will be subject to the judiciary setting up a panel to look at it and take decisions on it. Under section 144, no matter the declaration of Federal Executive Council, it is subject to the Senate President setting up a medical panel to verify it. The Federal Executive Council does not have the final say. It’s the National Assembly that has final say.

But it has to start somewhere
Whether it starts there or not, I’m saying more categorically that the FEC are ordinary appointees of the President. But the National Assembly has the final say, as the representatives of the people. So, the people should mount pressure on the National Assembly. Let me emphasise clearly that section 144 talks about permanent incapacity.

That permanent incapacity is what the medical panel will have to verify and it says it’s the National Assembly that will set up that medical panel. What if the National Assembly should take steps to find out what the situation is? Would they declare somebody permanently incapable when you don’t have his medical records? If you ask anybody, he will say we have not been briefed about his health. That we have not been briefed is a fundamental flaw really because where there is constituted authority, actually, the people should be informed about the state of health of their leader. But as it were, the National Assembly represents the people. The National Assembly has the final say in this.

The steps to take must not be removal on the basis for which you are not sure. It should be expected that before the FEC starts the process of that declaration, as is being contemplated, they must have been convinced by available medical records that the President is permanently incapable and there is nothing around them to confirm this. Rather, they will tell you they have no information. But I believe that where the appointees of the President are incapable, elected representatives of the people should be able. Or put the other way, the representatives of the people should rise to the occasion. It’s not just a matter of impeachment. The experienced men in the system should know what to do. I believe Yar’Adua loves the country and I believe there are other people around who love the country too.

It appears you are not satisfied with the way the National Assembly has handled this issue. You were there before as Senate President. Would you have handled it differently?
The whole thing has been mismanaged, not only by National Assembly. Generally, there has been mismanagement of the whole thing. The mismanagement started from even the election. I am sure that the President and the Vice President may not have met for the first time in their lives and now you put up an arrangement whereby you bring two people who have not met in their whole lives together to be President and Vice President.

How would they develop an ideology? How would they develop confidence? How would anything work? So, the system is in trouble and it didn’t start today. Otherwise, who did not know that the President was sick before elections? I also know that during the campaign, at least there was this phone call by the former President, ‘Umoru, you die? No, I did not die.’ So, what is strange about it? What is new? We are having mismanagement, but everything is not lost. But since the situation has been mismanaged, we don’t need to mismanage democracy. We don’t need to bring the system down. We need to look for a way to resolve the impasse.
Our visit to the National Assembly was like a wake-up call to the National Assembly to look at this matter more critically and find a way out. It mustn’t be a way that will generate chaos, a way that will generate hatred, a way the southerners in FEC should be said not to want the Northern President. The country must not be divided. It’s a constitutional matter. Democracy must not be brought down. People should be encouraged to look into this critically. It can be resolved. The truth of the matter is that in all these we are saying, maybe nobody has talked to the President. I am sure that somebody reached the President and told him that the Supplementary Appropriation Bill is ready and he said bring it, let me sign and it was signed. I’m sure that in this matter, it might be that nobody has talked to the President to say the country is under tension. I don’t know how people want others to act.

Is it enough to just be shouting on matters you don’t know the details? Is it for you to protest in the streets for matters you don’t even know the details or for matters that could be resolved the other way round? We are saying that there should be a better reasoning in handling national affairs because our country is not a homogenic one. It’s a multinational country. So, we should manage our affairs in such a manner that we don’t leave the country with an impression that this section is careless about this section or these people are doing this because this is from this section or this person is doing this because he belongs to this camp or so. When will this kind of thing stop?

You are asking for a notice from the President to the National Assembly from somebody who has not been seen. How do you get the notice?
I don’t know whether anybody has seen him or not, but I know that the Supplementary Appropriation Act was signed. If it was signed and there was no noise, there was no protest and there was no riot, how did it happen?

Would it be right to say there is a constitutional crisis?
We have no constitutional crisis. The constitution is clear.
But what is happening now has exposed some of the problems of the 1999 constitution.
That is why we emphasized the inadequacy of that constitution, particularly in this respect. Our emphasis has been that let us not because of the present wreck the future. We should take steps to protect the future. Taking into consideration the present experiences and amending that constitution is critical. Otherwise, if we make all these noise and nothing happens, it will happen another time. We are concerned about the President now. I’m sure it may be worst in the states. But nobody cares about that because, maybe it will not generate to the kind of protest this one is generating.

You are a member of the Board of Trustees of the Peoples Democratic Party. In its capacity as advisory body for the party and the government in power, why has that body failed to advise the government?
The Board of Trustees is only an advisory body to the party and not to the government and it’s simply an organ of the party. The party can speak but not the Board of Trustees. It is even wrong for the Board of Trustees to take a position independent of the party. It is the party that is known to Nigerians. Any other organ of the party is internal to the party.

Did you discuss this issue at the last BOT meeting?
We discussed issues of national importance. But we should not, as a Board of Trustees, come up with a position. But we can only advise the party to come up with a position. By the time we discussed it in the Board of Trustees, the party had issued a statement.

Have you advised the party accordingly?
We discussed the matter baring our minds to the party.

You led the National Assembly till the time you stepped aside. Why did you choose not to re-contest in 2007?
If you were at the press conference where I said I was not going to re-contest, I gave my reasons, which were on the front page of some national dailies. I said as at that time that I believe in rotation and that rotation did not contemplate second term. I believed in rotation and rotation never contemplates second term, let alone the third one. If we believe in rotation it should go round as quickly as possible, so that whatever that divides us or whatever feelings that one section is not allowed, should quickly be removed from the polity so that merit returns.

Would you then say your principle is in line with your party ideology?
I’m not the party. I’m only a member of the party. Whatever the party decides, I follow. I cannot be a party on my own and I made this public. It was front page of Vanguard Newspaper and I was clear.

Looking back as Senate President, if you were to be given the opportunity to be on that seat again, what are the things you think you would have done differently?
Circumstances differ and, of course, individuals and their style also vary. I don’t compare myself with the second person. Each of us run our different destinies. As far as I’m concerned, I’ve finished with the National Assembly. It’s only when I can’t help it that I step in there. I have no more business with the National Assembly. I did not forget anything there.

I don’t even bother, except in situations like this that I believe that talking to the nation should be through the platform of the National Assembly, then I go there and perform that. Otherwise, my time is not the same as the present time and I don’t have to dictate to whoever is there how to manage his time. But I managed my time and my challenges to the best of my ability. I have nothing to regret. There was nothing I did in office that I’m regretting.

Your tenure started the process of constitutional amendment, which it didn’t complete before it handed over to the 5th National Assembly, which also couldn’t complete that constitutional amendment. Don’t you feel concerned, even now that we are into the process of Constitutional Amendment that we might have the same problem?
We might not have the same problem, because the truth is that there hasn’t been honesty in the process, not from the part of the National Assembly but maybe from the part of the Executive. Of course, you know how the last one was stopped during the time of the people after me. Eventually, the whole idea of pushing constitutional amendment was for third term and when the third term wasn’t coming, the process was sabotaged. When we have a consensus of desire to amend the constitution for effective running of the country, we will amend the constitution.

With the aggregate opinion of Nigerians, particularly with regards to electoral reform, don’t you think you have the consensus?
I think the National Assembly is doing its bit on that and the President is genuine and sincere on that. So, you will see they can amend it. It’s the insincerity that has stopped the two previous attempts.

What makes you think there is genuineness in members of the National Assembly this time when it is controlled by more than two-third majority of the ruling party when it comes to issue of electoral reform?
If the party wants electoral reform, why wouldn’t their members support it? Today, we know that it’s the party that is pushing the electoral reforms.

It was the President who set up the committee and had forwarded the necessary bills and even the report of the committee to the National Assembly. So, what more will be done from their axis? The rest is for the National Assembly. If the National Assembly finishes and passes back to the President for assent and he doesn’t assent to it, that is when you now talk about the party or the presidency.

Would you encourage credible people to contest elections under the present electoral umpire and system?
Are you saying that I was not credible when I went for election? The umpire you mean is the Chairman or INEC. There must be an electoral body. How do you conduct election without an electoral body? I know at times, people go as far as personalising whatever their grievances are with the Chairman of INEC. The Chairman of INEC is a human being and that is why we are saying that institutions should be bigger than the operators. The institution should be strengthened to function.

The institution should be able to put in shape those operating the institution. As long as we do not allow the institutions to work, we will continue to wobble. I know that when this INEC Act was being put in place, everything was being worked out, such that it could be independent. Today, we are now talking about entirely a new INEC. Yes, we have operated under that old law and we have seen that there are lapses. We should wake up to tighten it.

What do you say about the Uwais Electoral reforms?
I’m not saying anything different from what Nigerians are saying. The fact of the matter is that it is before the National Assembly. The whole idea of the bill being before the National Assembly is such that they will conduct Public Hearing again on it. They will debate it, cross-ventilate opinions before coming to the actual law. As long as these are in process, we haven’t had the best or the worst. So, we should be patient.

During your time, there was cordial relationship between the two chambers of the National Assembly. Now, we are having a process whereby they are all arguing over superiority and so on. How do you think this can be resolved?
Let me say that it’s all part of the problem of the system. I know there was a time we tried to do an Act on the protocol list. Eventually, one way or the other, the Executive didn’t want it then and they sabotaged it. But the constitution is clear. The two chambers, with respect to their duties, are equal. With respect to their duties, there is no difference. But when the two chambers come together, the constitution is clear that the President of the Senate chairs and ordinarily, that follows in every other thing.

The truth is that this is expected to happen. It is also expected that the party in power, having greater majority, should step in to resolve it, or the Executive arm will intervene and resolve it. It’s as simple as that. Except there is a third party to say let’s resolve it ordinarily or politically. The last option would be for them to go to court to have a judicial decision on which is superior, which I don’t know whether they have done or not. So, these are the options available.

But I want to believe that it wasn’t really a matter of superiority. There must have been something wrong. The House says they should be co-Chairman of the Constitution Review Committee. I believe that wasn’t a serious matter even at that beginning if there had been intervention, either from the party or from the Presidency. That matter would have been over by now. But, otherwise, the court is there to resolve it.



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Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Oboma1(m): 9:58am On Jan 23, 2010
Pius Ayim

Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Oboma1(m): 9:59am On Jan 23, 2010
Olusegun Obasanjo.

Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by kkkossy(m): 10:02am On Jan 23, 2010
Pdp= bunch of liars
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Oboma1(m): 10:07am On Jan 23, 2010
Oboma1:

Dr. Orji Uzor Kalu, former Abia State governor, speaking in a telephone interview from London yesterday, said: “Obasanjo is the most dishonest Nigerian living, to say he did not know that Yar’Adua was sick. He has lied again, just as he did on 3rd term. He thought Yar’Adua would die during the campaign and he, Obasanjo, would continue in office. Instead of apologizing to Nigerians, he’s making this silly comment.
“Yar’Adua is my personal friend. I wish him well. I want him to survive and come back as soon as possible. But Jonathan should not allow the country to collapse. Let them not prove John Negroponte, who said Nigeria will collapse in 15 years right.

I might be wrong here, but something tells me, Yar'Adua was another ploy to actualise OBJ's third term bid.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by WilyWily7: 10:18am On Jan 23, 2010
Can you see what i said, Yorubaman Obasanjo Lied.
Any time a Yorubaman opens his Mouth what comes out are LIES AND DECEPTIVE words
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by selingel: 10:22am On Jan 23, 2010
Oboma1:

According to him, “Obasanjo is trying to deceive Nigerians, because Yar’Adua is no longer in a position to talk and he knows that the man is incapacitated. How can he say that he wasn’t aware of Yar’Adua’s illness? When they were campaigning Yar’Adua collapsed; they rushed him abroad and Obasanjo was asking him, ‘Umoru are you alive?.”

“Obasanjo can’t claim not to know that Yar’Adua has health problem. As governor of Katsina State, he would stay abroad for six months on medical grounds. What he did was to use Yar’Adua to service his personal desire, thinking that he would die before the election so that he won’t hand over and elongate his tenure. That was Obasanjo’s permutation. So, for him now to be telling us that he wasn’t aware is a lie from the pit of hell. He should just shut up!


Obasanjo really used Yar'Adua for his personal interest. Had it been his scripts were really acted well, he would have been there till date. He cannot claim that he never knew the reasons why Yar'Adua travelled frequently abroad while he was governor. He is indeed, telling Nigerians, a huge lie!.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Nobody: 10:30am On Jan 23, 2010
and the nigerian soap opera goes on undecided
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Enjoyment1(f): 10:42am On Jan 23, 2010
Oboma1:

It appears you are not satisfied with the way the National Assembly has handled this issue. You were there before as Senate President. Would you have handled it differently?
The whole thing has been mismanaged, not only by National Assembly. Generally, there has been mismanagement of the whole thing. The mismanagement started from even the election. I am sure that the President and the Vice President may not have met for the first time in their lives and now you put up an arrangement whereby you bring two people who have not met in their whole lives together to be President and Vice President.

Mr. Ayim, why are you managing the truth? Just say it the way it is. The current Senate President has not been truthful to Nigerians, and he has actually shown it to us that, he is in support of Yar'adua. As for the senate as a whole, they are totally useless. Perhaps, Ayim would have helped in this situation, as a senate president. We will never forget what he did to third term bid in the senate. As for OBJ, he will do well, if he shuts his mouth up!.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Enjoyment1(f): 10:50am On Jan 23, 2010
Oboma1:

David-West said: “That is a lie. Obasanjo is being economical with the fact and the truth, because when they said Yar’Adua was not well, Obasanjo said anyone who said Yar’Adua wasn’t well was the person not well. Now Obasanjo can’t play the Pontius Pilate. He can’t deny that he brought Yar’Adua. He imposed Yar’Adua and Jonathan, to the extent that Yar’Adua’s mother was taken to Otta farm to thank Obasanjo and I came out in The Sun to say Yar’Adua crated his old mother to go and thank Obasanjo. Now, Obasanjo cannot deny this.”

The professor said Obasanjo’s comments were reported by Daily Sun on January 4, 2007, with a headline: “Presidency: Dr Obasanjo certifies Yar’Adua medically fit.”
In the report, Obasanjo had said: “I know all about Umaru’s ailment and it disappeared since 2001. It was a miracle. So those calling him a sick man are the ones who are sick. After all, only God can tell who will be sick or not. I wonder how somebody can open his mouth and say a human being created by God is a sick man. I am sure he has proved to those who say he cannot stand stress that all that is not true.”

David-West expressed shock that Obasanjo could now turn round to deny that he ever knew.
He said: “I have my records. So, Obasanjo is a liar and Yar’Adua himself came out to say anyone who said he was not well, let him come and play squash with him. These are all records.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Enjoyment1(f): 10:51am On Jan 23, 2010
So, with the above, why is OBJ making a mockery of himself?
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Otobroto(f): 10:54am On Jan 23, 2010
OBJ in the news again. Why can't he just shut up his mouth. Now, all his atrocities are beginning to unfold. GOD help Nigeria!.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by Oboma1(m): 11:18am On Jan 23, 2010
David-West said: “That is a lie. Obasanjo is being economical with the fact and the truth, because when they said Yar’Adua was not well, Obasanjo said anyone who said Yar’Adua wasn’t well was the person not well. Now Obasanjo can’t play the Pontius Pilate. He can’t deny that he brought Yar’Adua. He imposed Yar’Adua and Jonathan, to the extent that Yar’Adua’s mother was taken to Otta farm to thank Obasanjo and I came out in The Sun to say Yar’Adua crated his old mother to go and thank Obasanjo. Now, Obasanjo cannot deny this.”

The professor said Obasanjo’s comments were reported by Daily Sun on January 4, 2007, with a headline: “Presidency: Dr Obasanjo certifies Yar’Adua medically fit.”
In the report, Obasanjo had said: “I know all about Umaru’s ailment and it disappeared since 2001. It was a miracle. So those calling him a sick man are the ones who are sick. After all, only God can tell who will be sick or not. I wonder how somebody can open his mouth and say a human being created by God is a sick man. I am sure he has proved to those who say he cannot stand stress that all that is not true.”

David-West expressed shock that Obasanjo could now turn round to deny that he ever knew.
He said: “I have my records. So, Obasanjo is a liar and Yar’Adua himself came out to say anyone who said he was not well, let him come and play squash with him. These are all records.






It really pisses me to read all the above, and yet, the man still lies at his age. Why did he build a church then, if his tongue cannot divorce lies?.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by selingel: 11:33am On Jan 23, 2010
Oboma1:

David-West said: “That is a lie. Obasanjo is being economical with the fact and the truth, because when they said Yar’Adua was not well, Obasanjo said anyone who said Yar’Adua wasn’t well was the person not well. Now Obasanjo can’t play the Pontius Pilate. He can’t deny that he brought Yar’Adua. He imposed Yar’Adua and Jonathan, to the extent that Yar’Adua’s mother was taken to Otta farm to thank Obasanjo and I came out in The Sun to say Yar’Adua crated his old mother to go and thank Obasanjo. Now, Obasanjo cannot deny this.”

The professor said Obasanjo’s comments were reported by Daily Sun on January 4, 2007, with a headline: “Presidency: Dr Obasanjo certifies Yar’Adua medically fit.”
In the report, Obasanjo had said: “I know all about Umaru’s ailment and it disappeared since 2001. It was a miracle. So those calling him a sick man are the ones who are sick. After all, only God can tell who will be sick or not. I wonder how somebody can open his mouth and say a human being created by God is a sick man. I am sure he has proved to those who say he cannot stand stress that all that is not true.”

David-West expressed shock that Obasanjo could now turn round to deny that he ever knew.
He said: “I have my records. So, Obasanjo is a liar and Yar’Adua himself came out to say anyone who said he was not well, let him come and play squash with him. These are all records.






It really pisses me to read all the above, and yet, the man still lies at his age. Why did he build a church then, if his tongue cannot divorce lies?.

Even David-West, is he a saint? All of them are the same.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by afosam: 12:22pm On Jan 23, 2010
[tt]Quotes" [i]Can you see what i said, Yorubaman Obasanjo Lied.
Any time a Yorubaman opens his Mouth what comes out are LIES AND DECEPTIVE words]


Why are you turning it it to inter-tribal argument, leave sentiment i dont know which tribe you came from but i know Igbo People can lie more than any other tribe and hausa people can embezzele and goo out of their ways for their religion and their people when need arise, so every tribe has no matter what we should focus our eyes on the people that caused our problem and stand back to back like some says and fight them like few people that went to abuja recently did adn stop setiments
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by selingel: 12:49pm On Jan 23, 2010
afosam:




I will suggest, issues are not being discussed based on tribal sentiments, else, our sense of reasoning will be clouded with partiality.
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by ReachRich(m): 1:08pm On Jan 23, 2010
***yawns and leaves thread***
Re: Yar'adua: Obasanjo Lied - Kalu, We All Knew Yar'adua's Health - Pius Ayim. by selingel: 1:44pm On Jan 23, 2010
ReachRich:

***yawns and leaves thread***

Please don't go. Come back here, pleaaassseee! grin grin grin

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