Let's assume for this discussion that there is a god. Has anyone noticed how strangely different the god of the old and new testament is from the god that Christians claim exists today?

Why did the god of the old, new testament show interest in humanity and was very quick to show or display his anger, sadness, happiness and other emotions for all to see. This god was all over the place communicating with some people here and there and even showing some of them his body parts, addressing them through public speech and performing incredible miracles all over the place, but that god is nowhere to be found today at all? Has anyone seen any emotion at all or heard any god communicated with a group of people through any public speech? In  thousand years It's just very very odd to me that the god described in those books can't be seen anywhere  even though the god described in those books was never described as subtle, indifferent or silent at all.

There is a personality to "Yahweh" if the bible is accurate that hasn't been seen in a very long time. Why would a god change personalities? Also, how convenient that your supposed god was popping out miracles constantly in the OT(Making the stars fight along side his chosen men, Dividing the red sea for his chosen men to pass, Fighting along side his chosen men with his great sword of slaughter against their enemies etc), but now that we have the means to analyze miraculous claims they seem to have stopped.  Why do you think that is?

Its probably the same reason that you dont hear reports of ufos flying around now that everyone has video cameras on their mobiles.

I remember one time I took the drug x with alcohol, I swear I SAW GOD, . . In the flesh and he was saying sweet things to me.

Tudór:

I remember one time I took the drug x with alcohol, I swear I SAW GOD,  . . In the flesh and he was saying sweet things to me.

Was it GOD you saw or the drug dealer, saying sweet things to you so that you can stay hooked?

mantraa:

Its probably the same reason that you dont hear reports of ufos flying around now that everyone has video cameras on their mobiles.

Now we don't see no "manna" falling from heaven to feed those that are hungry and without food to eat. But back in the days when men were busy writing their different myths we have them saying that the stars from the sky were busy fighting along side men. I wonder why all these things suddenly changed and the christian god suddenly has been relegated to a deist god.

The biblical "God" is making a spectacular comeback.Plans are on the burner, as we speak, to bring back "GOD" into our faces in the most spectacular way imaginable, fit for the 21st century.High Tech and all. . . Keep your eyes fixed in the skies and get your popcorns ready . . .

jagunlabi:

The biblical "God" is making a spectacular comeback.Plans are on the burner, as we speak, to bring back "GOD" into our faces in the most spectacular way imaginable, fit for the 21st century.High Tech and all. . . Keep your eyes fixed in the skies and get your popcorns ready . . .

He is surely coming back, probably sooner than you think

Matthew 24:30-31:

30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world—from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven.

KunleOshob:

He is surely coming back, probably sooner than you think 

Matthew 24:30-31:

   30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world—from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven.

According to the same book of Matthew(26:63-64) Jesus promised a high priest called Caiaphas and those around him that they will see him come in the clouds of the heavens during their life time. Almost two thousand years have passed since Caiaphas has no longer been alive and still no return of Jesus. Verdict = FAIL!!

Hope the xtrian will come to their senses

toneyb:

According to the same book of Matthew(26:63-64) Jesus promised a high priest called Caiaphas and those around him that they will see him come in the clouds of the heavens during their life time. Almost two thousand years have passed since Caiaphas has no longer been alive and still no return of Jesus. Verdict = FAIL!!

It was never recored that it would be in their life time as Jesus always made it clear that"no one knows the hour or the time not even him except his father in heaven". The term used in that verse you quote was the word "future" which doesn't necessarily mean it would be in their lifetime. As the good book says a thousand years is like but a day in the sigt of God. God is not bound by time.

Abu Zola:

Hope the xtrian will come to their senses

The Christians despite being out of their senses still have much more sense than the Muslims in my opinion. When will the Muslims come back to their senses and stop worshiping the Arabian myth and Idol?

jagunlabi:

Was it GOD you saw or the drug dealer, saying sweet things to you so that you can stay hooked?

the God of Ganja

keep up the faith mon

@tony- why should a sensible person worship a god that died once upon a time on the cross.

For ur info Allah is not an idol

toneyb:

Why would a god change personalities?

Because the people who constantly re-invent and manufacture god change all the time. According to the hypothesis there's this god guy who is alleged to be omnipotent, all powerful, all knowing all good, in fact all everything who according to the people that subscribe to this hypothesis we can't know anything about it because according to them he is everyuthing and nothing at the same time. They said he appeared to a VERY few people long long ago when they were living in complete ignorance and told them what he demands, ate their food, fought against their enemies with them, lived with them told them what he wanted from them and told them to tell others after which he completely disappeared when men became extensively knowlegeble about this planet the universe and how the forces of nature operate. . . .Very intrersing hypothesis I must say. . . . .

Abu Zola:

@tony- why should a sensible person worship a god that died once upon a time on the cross.

For your info Allah is not an idol

Allah is a foolish arabian Idol. . . . .

mazaje:

Because the people who constantly re-invent and manufacture god change all the time. According to the hypothesis there's this god guy who is alleged to be omnipotent, all powerful, all knowing all good, in fact all everything who according to the people that subscribe to this hypothesis we can't know anything about it because according to them he is everyuthing and nothing at the same time. They said he appeared to a VERY few people long long ago when they were living in complete ignorance and told them what he demands, ate their food, fought against their enemies with them, lived with them told them what he wanted from them and told them to tell others after which he completely disappeared when men became extensively knowlegeble about this planet the universe and how the forces of nature operate. . . .Very intrersing hypothesis I must say. . . . .

I know, I as always wanted to hear the rationale of the believers of the god hypothesis. To me it seems that the personality, power, and influence of the gods is always simply a reflection of the human needs of the time and place the gods are prevalent in. Fertility gods/goddesses for example were very powerful in pre-/sub- agricultural societies. Rain gods were the leaders of the pantheons in agricultural societies. War gods rose to prominence in times of war and raiding, usurping the old leaders and becoming the new leaders of the pantheons or the people at large in time of wars. As societies settled more later on, population density rose and the people began to specialize in some things the gods began to representing laws, contracts, and of course social ethics and that became the standard.

The gods have always changed to meet the people's standards not the other way around. Examine the Indian god Indra/Varuna. He started off as the rain god, became the war god, and then transformed into the lawgiver god of wisdom. Tracking his personality change over time is an indicator of what the people needed most at that point in time. The same is seen in Yahweh. When warring against the neighboring tribes, his followers new him as a war god. When cramped tight in their new cities or settling down (or when living in the cramped cities of others), he became the lawgiver. When ethical and philosophical competition arose from the Greeks and Persians and other neighbors of the Jews, he became meek and mild.

Modern day Christians see their god in their own image which is a post-Enlightenment era social and ethical thinker, not the bloodthirsty war god he originated as in the bible, despite the fact his exploits are clearly written into their favorite but selectively read book.

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Indeed! All the gods as we understand them are nothing more than the antropomorphism of the universe.People imagine gods and as their thoughts change to other topics or other things their gods change with them. It happens all the time and will continuie to happen all the time. The gods of old are never the same with the gods of present.This means just one thing and that is all religions are really just social constructs that keep evolving over time and nothing more IMO. . . . .

Mazaje, you are a foool.

Abu Zola:

Mazaje, you are a foool.

Abuzo- la-la you are a FOOLISH FOOOOL. . . . . .

Ode oshi

mazaje:

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Indeed! All the gods as we understand them are nothing more than the antropomorphism of the universe.People imagine gods and as their thoughts change to other topics or other things their gods change with them. It happens all the time and will continuie to happen all the time. The gods of old are never the same with the gods of present.This means just one thing and that is all religions are really just social constructs that keep evolving over time and nothing more IMO. . . . . 

What is wrong with being an anthropomorphism of the universe?

Pastor AIO:

What is wrong with being an anthropomorphism of the universe?

Nothing wrong with that all I am saying is that, all the gods take the shape and form of what ever human attributes the god creators decided to ascribed unto them. . . . .Some gods have very strong voices, some are very strong and powerful, others are wise and clever, others are hateful and agressive, others love sex etc. . . .

mazaje:

Nothing wrong with that all I am saying is that, all the gods take the shape and form of what ever human attributes the god creators decided to ascribed unto them. . . . .Some gods have very strong voices, some are very strong and powerful, others are wise and clever, others are hateful and agressive, others love sex etc. . . .

What is wrong with having the attributes that your creator gave you?

Pastor AIO:

What is wrong with having the attributes that your creator gave you?

Nothing is wrong with that. . . . As long as people accept that all the gods posses attributes given to them by men who happen to be their creators. . . . .

Poster u are right. Thats y i define religion as a "deviation from reality". This same god(dog) who is potrayed as kind,good,nice. Allows tsunamis, quakes etc. Fk god for all i care

Thìs shows that the bible na fraud

Abu Zola:

Thìs shows that the bible na fraud

And the Koran is a bigger fraud no?

The Quran is free from fraud

Abu Zola:

The Quran is free from fraud

What about the Gharib Hadiths, I see you conveniently dodged my prickly question on 72 virgins and settled here instead. how so you

Abu Zola:

The Quran is free from fraud

Saying that trhe koran is free from fraud is the same as saying that Nigerians and not Africans. . . . .

Mazaje, u know am sayin d truth.

@above, there is no ghaib Quran, never, it only exist in hadith e.g the 72 virgin hadith