I have heard people give impression as though prosperity is wrong based on certain scriptures like

Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Is God against prosperity? what of other scriptures that sounds otherwise.

3 John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

2 Cor. 8:9
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that[b] ye through his poverty might be rich[/b].

Which side is God ? For Against or in between.

I WILL APPRECIATE POINTS BACKED UP WITH BIBLICAL VERSES

Mr Agbaje, we have consistently taught you on this forum that the gospel of christ has absolutely nothing to do with material prosperity here on earth, the gopsel is the gospel of the kingdom of God were Jesus promised to prepare mansions [wealth/prosperity] for those who beleive and do his will in the after life. It is NOT about prosperity in this life. The verse you quoted to support material prosperity do not support it rather they are talking about spiritual prosperity [soul prospering] and good health. Besides the 3 john 1:2 scripture you quoted is not a promise from God but rather a prayer by John for believers and he was not even praying for material prosperity. If you are in doubt check that passage from other versions of he bible or get a good concordance to get the proper interpretation of that verse.

Please note that i have not said that there is anything wrong with material prosperity which most of us desire but the gospel of christ should not be twisted to say what it is not saying as you could be in danger of leading believers away from the path of salvation [narrow road] to the path of destruction [broad road] which every body would like to take. It is good for peple to prosper materially but they must also use their material possesions to bless others as God directed also the glorious gospel of the our lord Jesus christ should not be polluted with our lust/ greed of worldly material riches which was of little consequence to our redeemer.

In my understanding,the gospel is not against prosperity

John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

The bible say we should suffer with him.

inedi:

In my understanding,the gospel is not against prosperity

John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Do you know the kind of life that Christ came to give us?
Is it the normal life that everybody has on earth which might include riches or not or is it eternal life which has to do with spiritual prosperity?
The verse above has nothing to do with normal life or what could be included in it; it has to do with eternal life which is the prosperity the gospel of Christ preaches; being rich towards God.

Patjoe:

The bible say we should suffer with him.

suffering ke?
where is it in the bible?

The Gospel message: Is it For or Against the polishing of Shoes?

In case you don't understand the sarcasm what I meant to say is that as the polishing of shoes is irrelevant to the core message of the Gospel so is the having of material prosperity. However the bible does state in no uncertain terms that the craving after material prosperity is a stumbling block to entering the kingdom of heaven.

KunleOshob:

Mr Agbaje, we have consistently taught you on this forum that the gospel of christ has absolutely nothing to do with material prosperity here on earth, the gopsel is the gospel of the kingdom of God were Jesus promised to prepare mansions [wealth/prosperity] for those who beleive and do his will in the after life. It is NOT about prosperity in this life. The verse you quoted to support material prosperity do not support it rather they are talking about spiritual prosperity [soul prospering] and good health. Besides the 3 john 1:2 scripture you quoted is not a promise from God but rather a prayer by John for believers and he was not even praying for material prosperity. If you are in doubt check that passage from other versions of he bible or get a good concordance to get the proper interpretation of that verse.

Please note that i have not said that there is anything wrong with material prosperity which most of us desire but the gospel of christ should not be twisted to say what it is not saying as you could be in danger of leading believers away from the path of salvation [narrow road] to the path of destruction [broad road] which every body would like to take. It is good for peple to prosper materially but they must also use their material possesions to bless others as God directed also the glorious gospel of the our lord Jesus christ should not be polluted with our lust/ greed of worldly material riches which was of little consequence to our redeemer.

I have taught You also consitently that there are no richies in heaven in the after life. we only spend 7 years in heaven!

John 10:10
   The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Eternal life is not in living for ever but a quality of life  It is here now .A life above sickness, poverty,failure and death
Fella said suffer ,suffer for world ,enjoy for heaven. The Lazarus kind of life is not what christ came to die for.

KunleOshob:

Mr Agbaje, we have consistently taught you on this forum that ,

I wonder who the "WE" are.

Well you are right on one thing ,that 3john 1:2 was  not a promise but  a prayer but you were wrong to say he wasnt talking abot material prosperity but that its  spiritual prosperity. The Gk word  euodoo means to have succes as in business

Prosperity is an all round thing: health wise, financial,material,intelect,marital and so on. We can not cut the finacial part of it off it.
Jesus was made poor for us to be rich.The Greek word there: Plouteo means wealth and increase in goods

The Gospel is not against Prosperity and will never be. The God we serve is a rich God and he loves his children too much to let them wallow in poverty. All through the Bible all the men God walked with were RICH, check out the lives of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon( who was the richest and wisest man on earth because God made him so) I say he was beacause he stopped being the richest and wisest when I came into the scene. God did not pay so much of a price (the life of his son Jesus Christ) for me to live in poverty here on earth. NO! If he wanted me to live in porverty Jesus wouldn't have come, Jesus came to pay the price so we can be free from sin, sickness, poverty, death e.t.c.

God says in the book of Jerimiah 29:11 the New International Version; "For I know the plans i have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future". what future would you want to hope for if theres no prosperity in it?

If humans take pleaure in giving their children good gifts and doing all they possibly can to make sure their children have a brighter future, do you think God our loving Father woud do anything less by taking pleasure in our poverty? Certainly not. David said in Psalms 35:27 "Let them shout for Joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, [color=#990000]which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant. The NIV says "who delights in the well-being of his servant".[/color]

My God is a God of prosperity (1Chronicles 29:12, "Both riches and honour come of thee, ", and His greatest desire is that i live my life in properity and health, 3 John 1:2 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest proper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth". I am His beloved so He couldn't wish any thing less for me.

God said to Solomon in 2 Chronicles 1:12, "Wisdom and Knowledge are granted you, and I will you give you riches, possessions, honour, and glory, , why should he do anything less for me for whom he paid the ultimate price; the Life of his son Jesus Christ.

THE GOSPEL IS NEVER AGAINST PROSPERITY!

sophiap:

The Gospel is not against Prosperity and will never be. The God we serve is a rich God and he loves his children too much to let them wallow in poverty. All through the Bible all the men God walked with were RICH, check out the lives of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon( who was the richest and wisest man on earth because God made him so) I say he was beacause he stopped being the richest and wisest when I came into the scene. God did not pay so much of a price (the life of his son Jesus Christ) for me to live in poverty here on earth. NO! If he wanted me to live in porverty Jesus wouldn't have come, Jesus came to pay the price so we can be free from sin, sickness, poverty, death e.t.c.

God says in the book of Jerimiah 29:11 the New International Version; "For I know the plans i have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future". what future would you want to hope for if theres no prosperity in it?

If humans take pleaure in giving their children good gifts and doing all they possibly can to make sure their children have a brighter future, do you think God our loving Father woud do anything less by taking pleasure in our poverty? Certainly not. David said in Psalms 35:27 "Let them shout for Joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, [color=#990000]which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant. The NIV says "who delights in the well-being of his servant".[/color]

My God is a God of prosperity (1Chronicles 29:12, "Both riches and honour come of thee, ", and His greatest desire is that i live my life in properity and health, 3 John 1:2 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest proper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth". I am His beloved so He couldn't wish any thing less for me.

God said to Solomon in 2 Chronicles 1:12, "Wisdom and Knowledge are granted you, and I will you give you riches, possessions, honour, and glory, , why should he do anything less for me for whom he paid the ultimate price; the Life of his son Jesus Christ.

THE GOSPEL IS NEVER AGAINST PROSPERITY!

All the people you mentioned above did not have the gospel of Christ.
Also, which of the people who promulgated the gospel of Christ in the bible did you see with material properity or material riches?

Point of Correction: The gospel of Christ is about spiritual prosperity. Physical prosperity is by normal earthly standards put into proper perspective.

Tonye-t:

@Joagbaje,

Let me tell you a little about my brother KunleOshob, from my little stay here in this religious section

- i have known him as someone who cannot say a thing and stand bold to it even in the face of ridicule so he chooses to always use the word "WE"
to maybe get some comrades who'll back him. And yet he calls himself a CHRISTIAN

- He barely writes anything in detail to butress his points, but will choose to copy and paste what others have written to back and butress him assertions

- He is wholly against the Gospel when Prosperity is preached, yet i wonder if he even gives at all

- I asked him once if his church even believes in offerings and KunleOshob said NO they dont take offerings, so any argument with him will be an exercise in futility as he is void of the knowledge of the topic - Giving.

That's kunle for you!

In the church you refered to above, offerings are collected according to the way it was stipulated in the bible; and that is as the need arises.
When there is no need, no offerings are collected.

It is essentially the point being pushed across by Paul in :

1Co 16:1-4
(1) Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
(2) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
(3) And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
(4) And if it be meet that I go also, they shall go with me.

The saints in Jerusalem were in need, so Paul initiated offerings for them which should take place over a course of time till he came to the corinthians. Then he would gather what had been offered and take to those who were in need of it.
Simple.

Pastor AIO:

The Gospel message: Is it For or Against the polishing of Shoes?

In case you don't understand the sarcasm what I meant to say is that as the polishing of shoes is irrelevant to the core message of the Gospel so is the having of material prosperity. .[/b]

The point here is, There is an idea that the message of prosperity is ungodly or worldly, So let us look at it . There is no middle line , Is the gospel of christ for or against the idea of prosperity. Is there provision for the church ,the hope of prosperity or we just live our lives by whatever we see. or luck?

Joagbaje:

The point here is, There is an idea that the message of prosperity is ungodly or worldly, So let us look at it . There is no middle line , Is the gospel of christ for or against the idea of prosperity. Is there provision for the church ,the hope of prosperity or we just live our lives by whatever we see. or luck?

There is no message of material prosperity in the gospel of Christ. The only message in the gospel of Christ is the salvation of the man; the prosperity of his soul;the richness of man towards God;eternal life.

If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical prosperity, good for him.Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living.
If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical non-prosperity, good for him. The gospel has achieved its purpose in granting him eternal life. Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living. If he ends up doing things in this course which are very normal which lead to physical prosperity, he definitely will be prosperous physically.


The gospel is about man's soul getting eternal life in Christ. It is apart from  physical prosperity. Physical propserity is subject to natural and earthly standards.
And it is also subject to what God's will and purpose is for a man at a particular and every point in time.

drop 10 percent for a heaven

ttalks:

There is no message of material prosperity in the gospel of Christ. The only message in the gospel of Christ is the salvation of the man; the prosperity of his soul;the richness of man towards God;eternal life.

If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical prosperity, good for him.Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living.
If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical non-prosperity, good for him. The gospel has achieved its purpose in granting him eternal life. Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living. If he ends up doing things in this course which are very normal which lead to physical prosperity, he definitely will be prosperous physically.


The gospel is about man's soul getting eternal life in Christ. It is apart from physical prosperity. Physical propserity is subject to natural and earthly standards.
And it is also subject to what God's will and purpose is for a man at a particular and every point in time.

True talk

Mt 6:19

Verse 19. Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth] What blindness is it for a man to lay up that as a treasure which must necessarily perish! A heart designed for God and eternity is terribly degraded by being fixed on those things which are subject to corruption. "But may we not lay up treasure innocently?" Yes. 1st. If you can do it without setting your heart on it, which is almost impossible: and 2dly. If there be neither widows nor orphans, destitute nor distressed persons in the place where you live. "But there is a portion which belongs to my children; shall I distribute that among the poor?" If it belongs to your children, it is not yours, and therefore you have no right to dispose of it. "But I have a certain sum in stock, &c.; shall I take that and divide it among the poor?" By no means; for, by doing so, you would put it out of your power to do good after the present division: keep your principal, and devote, if you possibly can spare it, the product to the poor; and thus you shall have the continual ability to do good. In the mean time take care not to shut up your bowels of compassion against a brother in distress; if you do, the love of God cannot dwell in you.

Rust] Or canker, brwsiv, from brwskw, I eat, consume. This word cannot be properly applied to rust, but to any thing that consumes or cankers clothes or metals. There is a saying exactly similar to this in the Institutes of MENU: speaking of the presents made to Brahmins, he says, "It is a gem which neither thieves nor foes take away, and which never perishes." Chapter of Government, Institute 83.

Where thieves do not break through] diorussousi, literally dig through, i.e. the wall, in order to get into the house. This was not a difficult matter, as the house was generally made of mud and straw, kneaded together like the cobb houses in Cornwall, and other places. See ACC for Mt 7:27.

@tonye
How much of the collections being collected in church daily is being used to meet the needs of those really in need And why can't I give directly? Why give through a church considering the fact that churches are notorious for diverting this funds.

ttalks:

There is no message of material prosperity in the gospel of Christ. The only message in the gospel of Christ is the salvation of the man; the prosperity of his soul;the richness of man towards God;eternal life.

If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical prosperity, good for him.Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living.
If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical non-prosperity, good for him. The gospel has achieved its purpose in granting him eternal life. Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living. If he ends up doing things in this course which are very normal which lead to physical prosperity, he definitely will be prosperous physically.


The gospel is about man's soul getting eternal life in Christ. It is apart from  physical prosperity. Physical propserity is subject to natural and earthly standards.
And it is also subject to what God's will and purpose is for a man at a particular and every point in time.

Very Good post; the point of the post is well exemplified by comparing Philemon and Onesimus: Philemon was a christian materially rich and the slave-owner of Onesimus; Onesimus was a christian, materially poor and the slave of Philemon.

The gospel is about man's soul getting eternal life in Christ. It is apart from  physical prosperity. Physical propserity is subject to natural and earthly standards.
And it is also subject to what God's will and purpose is for a man at a particular and every point in time.

I really like this way of putting things.

Just to add:

I think ttalks post above should also be complemented by this - especially the bit in bold:

Pastor AIO:

The Gospel message:  Is it For or Against the polishing of Shoes?

In case you don't understand the sarcasm what I meant to say is that as the polishing of shoes is irrelevant to the core message of the Gospel so is the having of material prosperity.  However the bible does state in no uncertain terms that the craving after material prosperity is a stumbling block to entering the kingdom of heaven.

If xtians re to shawn prosperity,then who are those that prosperities re ment for? Unbilivers? No way God is prosperous,he created heaven&earth,plants&animals,sea,air&land.All these are prosperity&success.We browse wit our phones&systems,we pay subscriptions with money,we wear suits,ride cars etc bought with lots of money.How can we not prosper? We cant serve God as a pauper

Tonye-t:

@Joagbaje,

Let me tell you a little about my brother KunleOshob, from my little stay here in this religious section

- i have known him as someone who cannot say a thing and stand bold to it even in the face of ridicule so he chooses to always use the word "WE"
to maybe get some comrades who'll back him. And yet he calls himself a CHRISTIAN

- He barely writes anything in detail to butress his points, but will choose to copy and paste what others have written to back and butress him assertions

- He is wholly against the Gospel when Prosperity is preached, yet i wonder if he even gives at all

- I asked him once if his church even believes in offerings and KunleOshob said NO they dont take offerings, so any argument with him will be an exercise in futility as he is void of the knowledge of the topic - Giving.

That's kunle for you!

On the contrary i NEVER copy and paste anything somebody else has written, if i do i challenged to you show us examples. People on this forum would testify that my posts are always very incisive, detailed and backed with sound relevant scripture rightly divided unlike you and your cohorts who not only twist scripture but you panel beat and batter it to say the opposite of what it is meant to be saying.

toba:

If xtians re to shawn prosperity,then who are those that prosperities re ment for? Unbilivers? No way God is prosperous,he created heaven&earth,plants&animals,sea,air&land.All these are prosperity&success.We browse wit our phones&systems,we pay subscriptions with money,we wear suits,ride cars etc bought with lots of money.How can we not prosper? We cant serve God as a pauper

Nobody has said it is wrong for christians to prosper what were are saying is that prosperity is irrelevant to the gospel of our lord Jesus christ, if you prosper fine, if you don't no problem. But our lord jesus christ never promised any beleiver material wealth. If you think he did please quote one single scripture were Jesus promised material wealth for believing his gospel. And your last statement that "we can't serve God as a pauper" is very wrong and contrary to sound scripture as Jesus always made it clear that the poor were dear to him, so don't let ou mis-guided preachers teach you what is contrary to the will of God.

mabell:

suffering ke?
where is it in the bible?

If I show you, talitha (mabell), will you believe?

Php 3:8-15 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith-- that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

And,

Heb 12:6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives."
Heb 12:7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline?
Heb 12:8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
Heb 12:9 Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live?
Heb 12:10 For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness.
Heb 12:11 For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Heb 12:12 Therefore lift your drooping hands and strengthen your weak knees,
Heb 12:13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be put out of joint but rather be healed.

Go ahead; prosperify (sic) these verses away

@OP
The prosperity of the gospel is not the materialistic false gospel that appeals so much to the masses today. Consider this verses:

1 Co 15:1-4 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you--unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,

Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Mat 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.
Mat 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Perhaps you will tell me that "blessed" implies have material possessions. What of this scriptures then?

1. Psa 94:12 Blessed is the man whom you discipline, O LORD, and whom you teach out of your law,

2. Psa 32:1-2 Blessed is the one whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man against whom the LORD counts no iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no deceit.

And these:

1. Luk 6:24-26 "But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation. Woe to you who are full now, for you shall be hungry. Woe to you who laugh now, for you shall mourn and weep. Woe to you, when all people speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets.

2. Matt 19:23-24 And Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly, I say to you, only with difficulty will a rich person enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God."
3. Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.
4. Luke 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God."
^{This striking statement was recorded thrice in the 3 synoptic gospels}

Do you think that the gospel is a means to materialism? Do you think the reason Jesus of Nazareth died was in order for you to have a bigger bank balance or a new car? You are sadly misled and mistaken.

Luk 12:15 And he said to them, "Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."

Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

1 Tim 6:6-11 Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness.

May the LORD grant you grace to see these things?

ttalks:

There is no message of material prosperity in the gospel of Christ. The only message in the gospel of Christ is the salvation of the man; the prosperity of his soul;the richness of man towards God;eternal life.

If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical prosperity, good for him.Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living.
If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical non-prosperity, good for him. The gospel has achieved its purpose in granting him eternal life. Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living. If he ends up doing things in this course which are very normal which lead to physical prosperity, he definitely will be prosperous physically.


The gospel is about man's soul getting eternal life in Christ. It is apart from  physical prosperity. Physical propserity is subject to natural and earthly standards.
And it is also subject to what God's will and purpose is for a man at a particular and every point in time.

^^^

1Co 7:20 Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called.
1Co 7:21 Were you a slave when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.)
1Co 7:22 For he who was called in the Lord as a slave is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a slave of Christ.
1Co 7:23 You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men.
1Co 7:24 So, brothers, in whatever condition each was called, there let him remain with God.

ttalks:

There is no message of material prosperity in the gospel of Christ. The only message in the gospel of Christ is the salvation of the man; the prosperity of his soul;the richness of man towards God;eternal life.

If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical prosperity, good for him.Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living.
If a man gets the gospel of Christ and accepts it while in a state of physical non-prosperity, good for him. The gospel has achieved its purpose in granting him eternal life. Let him live his life according to the gospel and continue to do things which do not violate the gospel in making a living. If he ends up doing things in this course which are very normal which lead to physical prosperity, he definitely will be prosperous physically.


The gospel is about man's soul getting eternal life in Christ. It is apart from  physical prosperity. Physical propserity is subject to natural and earthly standards.
And it is also subject to what God's will and purpose is for a man at a particular and every point in time.

aletheia link=topic=389323.msg5417699#msg5417699 date=1264880791:

^^^

1Co 7:20  Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called.
1Co 7:21  Were you a slave when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.)
1Co 7:22  For he who was called in the Lord as a slave is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a slave of Christ.
1Co 7:23  You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men.
1Co 7:24  So, brothers, in whatever condition each was called, there let him remain with God.

Wow! !

When I wrote the post above, I didn't even make the connection to the verses you added to buttress it, aletheia.
They go perfectly hand in hand.

Na wa for prosperity vendors ooooo.

Matthew 6:34 (King James Version)

34Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Tell me how prosperity aligns with his will if the true believers are only here on a short stay compared to Eternity we will spend with him.

We were WARNED never to build up wealth in this World (satan's own domain) but to lay up our treasures in heaven.

One wonders when (and if) they will ever learn, make man stop now before nairaland censorship sets in

God wants you to prosper and He will help you if you tithe, pray, and have faith. Guess what, its the faith part that stops alot of people.

3rd John 1:2 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth"

Corinthians 9:10-11
"Surely he says this for us, doesn't he? Yes, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they ought to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest. If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you?"

Luke 6:38
"Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."