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The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by Chosen59: 3:16pm On Jul 16, 2017
During the time of Abraham, only Ishmael and Hagai his mother, were said to worship islamically in Kaaba, Mecca. Then, why is it that Abraham's wife, Serah and her children were not part of islamic worship, if Abraham built Kaaba?

We also discovered that other key Bible figures didn't take part in islamic worship in Mecca: Moses, Joshua and all prophets up to the time of Jesus. Jesus himself never mentioned Kaaba, he didn't tell anyone to go there for worship, yet they say Kaaba had been existing since the time of Abraham, built for all mankind.

When the Israelites were taken out of bondage in Egypt, led by Moses, God was directing them with his hands of miracles. As He was taking them to Canaan, God didn't mention Kaaba to them or told them he commanded Abraham to build Kaaba in Mecca. Where then did the story of Abraham building Kaaba emanate from?

If it was God who commanded Abraham to build Kaaba for all mankind, why would He exclude the Israelites and their prophets?

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Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by MightySparrow: 3:20pm On Jul 16, 2017
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
John 4:22

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Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by EazyMoh(m): 3:54pm On Jul 16, 2017
Your question looks reasonable.
*Modified
lol the Christian Crusader Albhagdadi is already on the scene to answer a question directed to Muslims.
You never see him on Christian threads looking for answers like that article on FP about old and new covenant.
Anyway OP to answer your question, It is very simple before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophets were sent to a particular people or community.
So other prophet's that came after Ibrahim (As) but before Muhammad were sent to a particular people Isah (AS) inclusive. That is why he made it cle9ar that he was sent "ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel!"
You don't expect someone that made such a clear declaration to travel to Mecca and preach to pagan Arabs.
Throughout history of religions people corrupt the clear message God sent to mankind through his prophets. This was what happened to Moses people when he traveled and they started worshiping a golden calf. Exactly after Ibrahim and his followers were no more, with people corrupted and abandoned the true religion he put them on in Makkah, and the result was the Ka'aba shrine turning to idol worship and paganism center.
This is also the same situation after Jesus was gone, somebody now came and corrupted his teachings, bringing entirely new ideologies and practices of which Jesus never did/said/commanded and will definitely never approve of!
Due to nature and limitations of that time, different messengers (there are millions of them that God knows them, the people he sent them to and what happened to them) were sent by God to different people in different corners of the globe, they may not necessarily know or mention each other, but the bottom line is the message must be the same if it were truly from the same God! That message is simply to worship the ONE and ONLY through GOD, who creates and sustains everything and everyone.
It's inconsequential whether Jesus or Moses mentioned Abraham's stay in Makkah or whether he built the Ka'aba. As there is hardly any scientific proof Judaism, Christianity or Islam can provide to even prove that Abraham actually existed outside their respective holy books. These are stories one just has to accept based on faith, and if you don't believe them that's your choice.
I'd advice you rather concentrate on the message all of them preached. Aside today's version of Paul's Christianity which blasphemingly elevated Jesus to God/son of God status, basically revolve around the ten commandments.
Nowhere God ever mentioned to Moses or anyone before that he had a begotten son we would later sacrifice to save all the sinners
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by alBHAGDADI: 5:24pm On Jul 16, 2017
EazyMoh:
Your question looks reasonable.
...and so your Al taquiya self ran away cos you have no answer to give.


@OP

Muslims know the truth that the talk of Abraham building the Kaaba is nothing but a big lie, but they have no choice but to believe. They know that telling that lie will give their false religion some kind of credence cos Abraham was a friend of the Living God.

As you asked, if Abraham built the Kaaba, how come we can't find any record showing Israelites of old worshipping in it?

How come the prophets of the Bible didn't worship it not gave reference to it?

Why is that it is recorded that pagans were the ones worshipping there before Mohammad started his Islamic deception?

How come the Kaaba housed 365 idols with nothing to point to Abraham whom they claim built it?


It's simple. Islam is the re-branding and facelift that those pagan religions of mecca had. Mohammad simply rolled them up in one to form islam.

If Abraham truly built the Kaaba, do you think the Israelites would have allowed pagans to take over it? Do you think they won't have fought to recover it before Mohammad?

Yes, they would have fought to recover it just as they are fighting to remove the Al aqsa mosque from the Jewish Temple Mount today. And since there is no record showing that the children of Israel ever fought to reclaim the Kaaba, then it means they never saw it as anything belonging to Abraham the father of their faith.

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Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by alBHAGDADI: 7:11pm On Jul 16, 2017
EazyMoh:
Your question looks reasonable.
*Modified
lol the Christian Crusader Albhagdadi is already on the scene to answer a question directed to Muslims.
You never see him on Christian threads looking for answers like that article on FP about old and new covenant.
Wow!

I feel honoured to be called a crusader. It must mean that my work against Islam on nairaland is really bearing fruits.

As for your talk of me not attending to certain topics, note that I can't be everywhere. I only do the best I can, but certainly I can't let an Islamic deception walk pass freely. Never


EazyMoh:

Anyway OP to answer your question, It is very simple before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophets were sent to a particular people or community.
No, prophets were sent to the children of Israel ONLY. They were the only ones that knew the true God. Other nations were pagans and under the full control of Satan.

EazyMoh:

So other prophet's that came after Ibrahim (As) but before Muhammad were sent to a particular people Isah (AS) inclusive. That is why he made it cle9ar that he was sent "ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel!"
You don't expect someone that made such a clear declaration to travel to Mecca and preach to pagan Arabs.
Jesus' statement of being sent to the lost sheep of Israel is something you have to examine carefully otherwise you will continue to believe it to mean what you thinking does.

He was sent to the Israelites who were the only ones on earth with a relationship with God and also were expecting his coming. It won't have made sense if he had travelled down to Egypt of Malaysia to preach to people who knew nothing about his coming nor God. It was after his death and resurrection that he assigned his disciples to go and preach to the rest of the world by using his death and resurrection as evidence. If he came to earth for the Israelites alone, he won't have made the below statements.


Mathew 28:19

Therefore go and make disciples of all NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Mathew 16:15

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the WORLD, and preach the gospel to EVERY CREATURE.

EazyMoh:

Throughout history of religions people corrupt the clear message God sent to mankind through his prophets. This was what happened to Moses people when he traveled and they started worshiping a golden calf. Exactly after Ibrahim and his followers were no more, with people corrupted and abandoned the true religion he put them on in Makkah, and the result was the Ka'aba shrine turning to idol worship and paganism center.
Lies!

Abraham and his people worshipped Yahweh and not in any Kaaba or mecca. The word God gave him was not corrupted cos he passed it on to Isaac his son who in turn passed it to Jacob whom God himself named ISRAEL. All the children of Israel have been the ones producing prophets who were sent to them alone. Never did they make mention of Kaaba. They never worshipped there.

We all know Islam is a religion that aims to insult the Living God. In this case, it insults God by calling Him a forgetful Being for not telling the Israelites about the Kaaba. But God cannot be mocked. If none of the prophets of the Bible ever talked about the Kaaba, then it means it was never God's plan and has nothing to do with Him. That's why it took a non-israelite to proclaim that the Kaaba is of God. That alone proves that it is a lie.

The place that God cherished is the Mount where Abraham wanted to sacrifice Isaac. That same Mount is where Solomon built God's temple. Guess what? The liar, killer and their that destroys has built a pagan shrine on it called Al aqsa mosque. That is the spirit Islam operates with. It lies and steals what doesn't belong to it. But it's only for a while.

EazyMoh:

This is also the same situation after Jesus was gone, somebody now came and corrupted his teachings, bringing entirely new ideologies and practices of which Jesus never did/said/commanded and will definitely never approve of!
Islam hates Apostle Paul cos he judged Islam even before Mohammad's fore fathers were born. Islam will do anything to discredit Paul, but the truth will always win.

EazyMoh:

Due to nature and limitations of that time, different messengers (there are millions of them that God knows them, the people he sent them to and what happened to them) were sent by God to different people in different corners of the globe, they may not necessarily know or mention each other, but the bottom line is the message must be the same if it were truly from the same God! That message is simply to worship the ONE and ONLY through GOD, who creates and sustains everything and everyone.
Liar!

Can you mention one of those he sent to different people in different corners of the globe in those days? You can't cos they never existed. Israel was the only nation that knew God. Others were under Satan's control. It was through Jesus Christ that salvation started spreading to the rest of the world when he sent his disciples.

EazyMoh:

It's inconsequential whether Jesus or Moses mentioned Abraham's stay in Makkah or whether he built the Ka'aba.
It is highly important that we have references linking Abraham to Kaaba otherwise the talk of him building it wont be different from the lie that it is. If nothing in the bible or old texts ever mentioned he stayed in mecca or built the Kaaba, then it is silly to believe such.

If there is no proof, then it means the Islamic faith is based on falsehood or uncertainties.


EazyMoh:

As there is hardly any scientific proof Judaism, Christianity or Islam can provide to even prove that Abraham actually existed outside their respective holy books. These are stories one just has to accept based on faith, and if you don't believe them that's your choice.
Abraham did existed and the proof lies in the children of Israel who are his offspring

EazyMoh:

I'd advice you rather concentrate on the message all of them preached. Aside today's version of Paul's Christianity which blasphemingly elevated Jesus to God/son of God status, basically revolve around the ten commandments.
Nowhere God ever mentioned to Moses or anyone before that he had a begotten son we would later sacrifice to save all the sinners
So much hatred for Paul just cos he words are so powerful that it exposed the coming deception of Mohammad's Islam centuries before he was born.
.It is only normal to Greenwich power.
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by Chosen59: 8:11pm On Jul 16, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
...and so your Al taquiya self ran away cos you have no answer to give.


@OP

Muslims know the truth that the talk of Abraham building the Kaaba is nothing but a big lie, but they have no choice but to believe. They know that telling that lie will give their false religion some kind of credence cos Abraham was a friend of the Living God.

As you asked, if Abraham built the Kaaba, how come we can't find any record showing Israelites of old worshipping in it?

How come the prophets of the Bible didn't worship it not gave reference to it?

Why is that it is recorded that pagans were the ones worshipping there before Mohammad started his Islamic deception?

How come the Kaaba housed 365 idols with nothing to point to Abraham whom they claim built it?


It's simple. Islam is the re-branding and facelift that those pagan religions of mecca had. Mohammad simply rolled them up in one to form islam.

If Abraham truly built the Kaaba, do you think the Israelites would have allowed pagans to take over it? Do you think they won't have fought to recover it before Mohammad?

Yes, they would have fought to recover it just as they are fighting to remove the Al aqsa mosque from the Jewish Temple Mount today. And since there is no record showing that the children of Israel ever fought to reclaim the Kaaba, then it means they never saw it as anything belonging to Abraham the father of their faith.

I love the bolded.
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by Chosen59: 8:41pm On Jul 16, 2017
EazyMoh:
Your question looks reasonable.
*Modified
lol the Christian Crusader Albhagdadi is already on the scene to answer a question directed to Muslims.
You never see him on Christian threads looking for answers like that article on FP about old and new covenant.
Anyway OP to answer your question, It is very simple before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophets were sent to a particular people or community.
So other prophet's that came after Ibrahim (As) but before Muhammad were sent to a particular people Isah (AS) inclusive. That is why he made it cle9ar that he was sent "ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel!"
You don't expect someone that made such a clear declaration to travel to Mecca and preach to pagan Arabs.
Throughout history of religions people corrupt the clear message God sent to mankind through his prophets. This was what happened to Moses people when he traveled and they started worshiping a golden calf. Exactly after Ibrahim and his followers were no more, with people corrupted and abandoned the true religion he put them on in Makkah, and the result was the Ka'aba shrine turning to idol worship and paganism center.
This is also the same situation after Jesus was gone, somebody now came and corrupted his teachings, bringing entirely new ideologies and practices of which Jesus never did/said/commanded and will definitely never approve of!
Due to nature and limitations of that time, different messengers (there are millions of them that God knows them, the people he sent them to and what happened to them) were sent by God to different people in different corners of the globe, they may not necessarily know or mention each other, but the bottom line is the message must be the same if it were truly from the same God! That message is simply to worship the ONE and ONLY through GOD, who creates and sustains everything and everyone.
It's inconsequential whether Jesus or Moses mentioned Abraham's stay in Makkah or whether he built the Ka'aba. As there is hardly any scientific proof Judaism, Christianity or Islam can provide to even prove that Abraham actually existed outside their respective holy books. These are stories one just has to accept based on faith, and if you don't believe them that's your choice.
I'd advice you rather concentrate on the message all of them preached. Aside today's version of Paul's Christianity which blasphemingly elevated Jesus to God/son of God status, basically revolve around the ten commandments.
Nowhere God ever mentioned to Moses or anyone before that he had a begotten son we would later sacrifice to save all the sinners

If Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of Israel,.though not true as he later commanded his disciples to preach to all nations, why were prophets and Israelites before Jesus not going to Mecca?

God told Moses and he declared it to the Israelites that a prophet was coming in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him".

Even though the Muslims interpret it to mean Muhammad, the truth is Muhammad was not a brother of the Jews whom Moses spoke to. The word "brethren" is the plural of "brother". The brother of the Jews must be a Jew. A brother is another male child from the same.mother. The Arabs and the Jews are not from the same mother, therefore Muhammad could not be a brother to the Jews.
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by EazyMoh(m): 9:10pm On Jul 16, 2017
Chosen59:


If Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of Israel,.though not true as he later commanded his disciples to preach to all nations, why were prophets and Israelites before Jesus not going to Mecca?

God told Moses and he declared it to the Israelites that a prophet was coming in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him".

Even though the Muslims interpret it to mean Muhammad, the truth is Muhammad was not a brother of the Jews whom Moses spoke to. The word "brethren" is the plural of "brother". The brother of the Jews must be a Jew. A brother is another male child from the same.mother. The Arabs and the Jews are not from the same mother, therefore Muhammad could not be a brother to the Jews.
Lol! The same argument you are using to discredit the foretold coming of Prophet Muhammad in the Bible is the same used to discredit the coming of Jesus and majority of the Jews then (and now) still don't consider Jesus the true Messiah. So why don't you worry about that.
Jews accepted Moses and rejected Jesus
Christians accepted Moses and Jesus but rejected Muhammad
Muslims accepted Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.
As the final prophet sent to the whole world to correct the misguidance and ignorance of mankind till the end of the world.
Whoever wishes among you shall believe, Indeed there is a day we will all be held responsible for our actions.
May the Almighty God in his infinite mercy guide us to the right path.
Peace
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by EazyMoh(m): 9:41pm On Jul 16, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Wow!

I feel honoured to be called a crusader. It must mean that my work against Islam on nairaland is really bearing fruits.

As for your talk of me not attending to certain topics, note that I can't be everywhere. I only do the best I can, but certainly I can't let an Islamic deception walk pass freely. Never



No, prophets were sent to the children of Israel ONLY. They were the only ones that knew the true God. Other nations were pagans and under the full control of Satan.


Jesus' statement of being sent to the lost sheep of Israel is something you have to examine carefully otherwise you will continue to believe it to mean what you thinking does.

He was sent to the Israelites who were the only ones on earth with a relationship with God and also were expecting his coming. It won't have made sense if he had travelled down to Egypt of Malaysia to preach to people who knew nothing about his coming nor God. It was after his death and resurrection that he assigned his disciples to go and preach to the rest of the world by using his death and resurrection as evidence. If he came to earth for the Israelites alone, he won't have made the below statements.


Mathew 28:19

Therefore go and make disciples of all NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Mathew 16:15

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the WORLD, and preach the gospel to EVERY CREATURE.

Lies!

Abraham and his people worshipped Yahweh and not in any Kaaba or mecca. The word God gave him was not corrupted cos he passed it on to Isaac his son who in turn passed it to Jacob whom God himself named ISRAEL. All the children of Israel have been the ones producing prophets who were sent to them alone. Never did they make mention of Kaaba. They never worshipped there.

We all know Islam is a religion that aims to insult the Living God. In this case, it insults God by calling Him a forgetful Being for not telling the Israelites about the Kaaba. But God cannot be mocked. If none of the prophets of the Bible ever talked about the Kaaba, then it means it was never God's plan and has nothing to do with Him. That's why it took a non-israelite to proclaim that the Kaaba is of God. That alone proves that it is a lie.

The place that God cherished is the Mount where Abraham wanted to sacrifice Isaac. That same Mount is where Solomon built God's temple. Guess what? The liar, killer and their that destroys has built a pagan shrine on it called Al aqsa mosque. That is the spirit Islam operates with. It lies and steals what doesn't belong to it. But it's only for a while.


Islam hates Apostle Paul cos he judged Islam even before Mohammad's fore fathers were born. Islam will do anything to discredit Paul, but the truth will always win.

Liar!

Can you mention one of those he sent to different people in different corners of the globe in those days? You can't cos they never existed. Israel was the only nation that knew God. Others were under Satan's control. It was through Jesus Christ that salvation started spreading to the rest of the world when he sent his disciples.


It is highly important that we have references linking Abraham to Kaaba otherwise the talk of him building it wont be different from the lie that it is. If nothing in the bible or old texts ever mentioned he stayed in mecca or built the Kaaba, then it is silly to believe such.

If there is no proof, then it means the Islamic faith is based on falsehood or uncertainties.


Abraham did existed and the proof lies in the children of Israel who are his offspring

So much hatred for Paul just cos he words are so powerful that it exposed the coming deception of Mohammad's Islam centuries before he was born.
.It is only normal to Greenwich power.
Chai you really have time on hands!
Anyway calling you a Christian crusader isn't a compliment, calling you Shekau or the Albhagdadi (as you chose) could have been more charitable.
Crusaders were known to have destroyed many cities Jerusalem inclusive killing the inhabitants, men, women children and even infants. In some cases roasting their flesh and feasting like beasts. And they were on orders from the pope.
................
The rest of your argument I don't even know what to tell you.
I tell you a point based on reference from the Quran when I mentioned Ibrahim (AS) built Ka'aba you said I was lying.
I mentioned Jesus said he was sent only to Israelites you said I was lying even though it's in the Bible.
I never said God FORGOT to mention Makkah to Jesus and Moses, I simply said He just decided not mention it and no one can question God.
In the Quran Allah said there are many prophets he sent to a people of different places at different times.
I can't see why God would ignore the whole world population and focus on only Israelites, while he let Satan be incharge of the rest of the world as pagans. Islam has made it clear there are no people in history that God did not send a messenger to deliver His message and that message is simply worship the one true God alone and never associate a partner to Him, for that God is a jealous God! And do good to each other.
This is the right path, and this is Islam.
Take it or leave it.
Good night.
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by Chosen59: 10:59pm On Jul 16, 2017
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Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by Chosen59: 11:04pm On Jul 16, 2017
EazyMoh

Lol! The same argument you are using to discredit the foretold coming of Prophet Muhammad in the Bible is the same used to discredit the coming of Jesus and majority of the Jews then (and now) still don't consider Jesus the true Messiah. So why don't you worry about that.
Jews accepted Moses and rejected Jesus
Christians accepted Moses and Jesus but rejected Muhammad
Muslims accepted Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.
As the final prophet sent to the whole world to correct the misguidance and ignorance of mankind till the end of the world.
Whoever wishes among you shall believe, Indeed there is a day we will all be held responsible for our actions.
May the Almighty God in his infinite mercy guide us to the right path.
Peace

It is very difficult to believe Muhammad was sent as the final prophet to correct the misguidance and ignorance of mankind till the end of the world by the same God of Israel. Jesus didn't tell us so. If Muhammad were to come after Jesus, we would have been informed by Jesus.

Besides, the guidance and correction Muhammad brought were inconsistent with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus put an end to war and violence. That was a good and peaceful development, which reasonable person's would see as Godly virtues and good for mankind, but unfortunately, Muhammad came to turn the whole thing upside down by reintroducing war and violence, which had ceased for about 650 years. Why would God return the world to chaos? Why would God put an end to the teachings and miracles of Jesus and return us to islam that lacks the power of God, otherwise known as miracles? This should give reasonable and unbiased persons serious concern about the sender of Muhammad.

Again, Jesus said the Gospel was to be preached till the end of the world. This means Jesus has no hand in islam. Mathew 24:14 says and I quote "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Here Jesus said the Gospel is to be preached from his time till the end of the world. The question now is "who sent islam"? It could not have come from the God Jesus represents.
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by alBHAGDADI: 8:32pm On Jul 17, 2017
EazyMoh:

Chai you really have time on hands!
Anyway calling you a Christian crusader isn't a compliment, calling you Shekau or the Albhagdadi (as you chose) could have been more charitable.
Crusaders were known to have destroyed many cities Jerusalem inclusive killing the inhabitants, men, women children and even infants. In some cases roasting their flesh and feasting like beasts. And they were on orders from the pope.
Whivh cities did the crusaders destroy? You Muslims won't stop parading lies as truth. You think you can make claims without proof? Why do you Muslims act as if the crusaders were not a response to the Islamic invasion of Europe through jihad? Jerusalem was wrestled out of the hands of you thieves called Muslims who love to claim what doesn't belong to you.


EazyMoh:

I tell you a point based on reference from the Quran when I mentioned Ibrahim (AS) built Ka'aba you said I was lying.
I mentioned Jesus said he was sent only to Israelites you said I was lying even though it's in the Bible.
Why should we believe what a 7th century book called Quran said when tonnes of books that existed centuries before it never stated such?

As for Jesus saying he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel, you need to understand the spiritual meaning of his use of Israel there. Israel didn't stand for the Jews alone. It stands for every of God's people be it Jew or gentile. You need to read Romans chapter 11 to understand better. But you won't cos you are blinded by deception.


EazyMoh:

I never said God FORGOT to mention Makkah to Jesus and Moses, I simply said He just decided not mention it and no one can question God.

In the Quran Allah said there are many prophets he sent to a people of different places at different times.
Our Yahweh is not a weak God that He will forget to mention mecca in the bible or through his prophets. If it was His will that people should worship at the Kaaba in mecca, He would have stated it. At least one of many prophets He sent woukd have prophesied about such.

But since He never said anything about Mecca, then it means it has nothing to do with Him.

Yahweh is not a God that forgets or doesn't give details as to His will. So, it is not His will for people to worship in mecca.

EazyMoh:


I can't see why God would ignore the whole world population and focus on only Israelites, while he let Satan be incharge of the rest of the world as pagans. Islam has made it clear there are no people in history that God did not send a messenger to deliver His message and that message is simply worship the one true God alone and never associate a partner to Him, for that God is a jealous God! And do good to each other.
This is the right path, and this is Islam.
Take it or leave it.
Good night.
If God sent proohets to other people in the world then, how come he didn't say such in the bible but had to wait for centuries to say Irvin the Quran? My friend, the god you are talking about is not the Good of the Holy Bible. It is some Satan you are talking about cos Satan was the one who had babalawos, shamans, sorcerers, witches, wizards etc in every tribe and race of people.

Man became Satan's tool since Adam relinquished his authority to Satan on earth. God had to use the children of Israel to set the plan for the redemption of mankind. You are probably wondering why God chose such a small people while the rest of mankind were lost. Think about this: were you always this big in stature and achievements? I guess you had to start small. That's how God did and today He's wrestling the world from Satan's grip. But you Muslims want to drag it back into his control.
Re: The Israelites And The Kaaba In Mecca by Chosen59: 10:43pm On Jul 17, 2017
Islam has a lower moral and spiritual standard when compared to the standard of the Gospel. What the Gospel condemns, which are of spiritual virtues, the Quran embraces.

Again, going through the Quran you will discover that the Jews and the Christians appear to be allah's worst enemies. In fact Allah declared open enmity between Muslims and them.


Quran 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors : They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.

The Christians had been very useful vessels God used in the New Testament. A lot of great and marvellous things were done through them, which would not be humanly possible without God supplying them power. When did they become God's enemies that he would tell Muslims not to be their friends. This alone shows Muhammad's Allah is not the same God who worked through the Christians.

Allah's hatred for the Jews and Christians is so much that anyone who recognized Jesus as Lord was qualified to be murdered. Jesus being the Lord was not a new development in Muhammad's time. It had been so about 650 years before Muhammad was born. With the belief that Jesus is Lord and the Son of God, the Disciples and the early Christians worked miracles with God's backing. How suddenly the same God would command the Muslims to behead them for calling Jesus the Son of.God? Muhammad's Allah surely is not the God who worked miracles through the Christians.and.cannot be the God of heaven as there are no two Gods.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in Jesus being Son of God (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').


When did the Christians whom God used to work miracles become the enemies of God?

Why would God try to replace Christianity being gentle and peaceful with islam being hostile and violent?

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