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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by budaatum: 9:50pm On Oct 29, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Ok tell me , what has the nonsense he posted have to do with the OP ?
I feel you were responding to the following post

budaatum:

Excuse me. But when I committed this sin with Empedocles, you made me serve penance!

Serve Penance jo!

Which was responding to this:

KingEbukasBlog:


Why are always quick to quit when you are conversing with me grin . Are you afraid cheesy

In which you were responding to this:

Proudgorgeousga:


errm you missed the "WHAT IF". never said it was a fact I was taught in school. bye

Right?
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:32pm On Oct 29, 2017
budaatum:

I feel you were responding to the following post



Which was responding to this:



In which you were responding to this:



Right?

No no , I meant the urhara guy's post where he said mentioned Yahweh and accused me of very funny things
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by DopeBoss(m): 10:48pm On Oct 29, 2017
JackBizzle:


Why are you so dubious? You know what he meant.


Is the bible not inspired and directed by God even though he didnt write it? Is it not the word of God.


Ogbeni, you will always be a slippery and dubious person.
KingEbukasBlog:


But this does not imply the universe itself as a whole is eternal , does it ? Unless you are presupposing that matter is all there is wink
You Both Dnt Believe In God Right? ..Them Cn U Pls Tell Me How Human Life Started
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Nobody: 10:58pm On Oct 29, 2017
Vello:

Hey Olivia. Could you by any chance be that same Olivia from LASU satellite campus at Anthony in 2011 or thereabout?
If you are, I'm Mr. Bello from SHODEX. That piece of info sufficiently juggle your memory. Should it be I'm wrong, please disregard.
Thanks
Lol I'm not your Olivia smiley

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by budaatum: 10:59pm On Oct 29, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


No no , I meant the urhara guy's post where he said mentioned Yahweh and accused me of very funny things
Do you know how many posts you posted asking for contributions? You get one and that was your first response?

Please, if you'd admit, the gods have a lot to do with what has been said, and the spirit of god in each person decides what each person decides to post. You need to know the amount of work you've put into to write what you post and show mercy to those who might not have done as much as you've done, or be aware of what you know, or just plain don't see it your way for whatever reason! You sir, must forgive, if for no other reason but that some may not know what they are posting - if that's the position you wish to take. But all that na yawa, so I make it small and easy to ignore. And I refuse to comment no further but to say:

You were pedantic about me missing a single word.

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by flyDixon: 11:02pm On Oct 29, 2017
They have a name, they call themselves DEIST
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by budaatum: 11:02pm On Oct 29, 2017
DopeBoss:
You Both Dnt Believe In God Right? ..Them Cn U Pls Tell Me How Human Life Started
DopeBoss, you can start a thread. We'll contribute.
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Sapiosexuality(m): 11:07pm On Oct 29, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


sapiosexuality here is the answer to your question.
So what is agnosticism?
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by tosyne2much(m): 11:07pm On Oct 29, 2017
Just when some people think they've acquired a little education they become highly of themselves thinking they are so enlightened than any other person and they will start using science to prove the inexistence of God and supernaturals. SMH

Don't quote me ooo
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by mecussey(m): 11:10pm On Oct 29, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Conclusion : Atheism rejects deification of an entity not its existence

Let me explain further

'God' or 'god' is just a title we humans can give to anything . Some monotheists say that the First Cause or creator of the universe is a deity or a God , the panentheist says that both the creator of the universe and the universe itself is God . Let's come home : There are human deities like Mary, the mother of Jesus in Collyridianism ; the ancient Emperors of China and Japan ; physical entities like the sun , moon , planets , stone , trees have all been deified or seen as gods in ancient times even now . What atheism does is to reject the deification of these entities , it does not deny or reject their existence . Same thing with atheists who acknowledge the existence of the creator of the universe , they don't see this creator as God or a deity .

Atheism is not the rejection of the existence of an entity because it is deified , it is not accepting the conferment of the godhood status on that entity be it the First Cause or anything else .

An atheist stance is : "nothing is a deity to me , nothing is a god to me , or nothing is divine to me "

This is what atheism is not the nonsense we are seeing on Nairaland by these 'atheists'

Yea...an atheist should be reasonable and not some Nigerian atheists who copied to scream there is no God the white said decades ago.
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Sapiosexuality(m): 11:14pm On Oct 29, 2017
budaatum:

Sounds like, "one who doesn't quite know if gods exist or not but doesn't believe in their existence."
Isn't their a word in the dictionary for that? A word called Agnostic. Why add Atheist after it?
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by DopeBoss(m): 11:14pm On Oct 29, 2017
budaatum:

DopeBoss, you can start a thread. We'll contribute.
Trust me i would hv loved to, but hvn't gotten d time yet.. Also To Those Who Don't Believe In God.. Kindly Tell Me How Human Life Started
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by mecussey(m): 11:16pm On Oct 29, 2017
JackBizzle:



grin

Ebuka. I always smile when I read your threads.


On a serious note, no one knows the origin of the universe. There could be a cause and there might not be a cause. The first cause argument is myopic in the sense that it ignores the issue of infinite regress of an infinite number of creators.



whether creator or creators ...note that there was a cause. I understand science and i am certain that the human body for example, cannot happen and be organised by mistake or accident. Finally i am convinsed that what TB joshua does on Emmanuel TV is not ordinary. Either negative or positve force...he does bring men down without touching them. Thats supernatural.
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by adepeter2027(m): 11:16pm On Oct 29, 2017
tosyne2much:
Just when some people think they've acquire a little education

You have a point but come to think of it, it looks like bvllsh!t from another perspective cos even believers have not been able to proof the existence of God despite all the knowledge they have acquired.

they become highly of themselves thinking they are so enlightened that any other person and they will start using science to prove the inexistence of God and supernaturals. SMH


Are you for real?
Have you seen where a negative statement is been proven?

Using Science to "proof" the "inexistence" of God

I give up

Don't quote me ooo
I'm sorry, I just did. I couldn't help myself

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by tosyne2much(m): 11:19pm On Oct 29, 2017
adepeter2027:
Are you for real? Have you seen where a negative statement is been proven?
Using Science to "proof" the "inexistence" of God
I give up
Like say I don know say you go quote me cheesy
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by adepeter2027(m): 11:22pm On Oct 29, 2017
tosyne2much:
Like say I don know say you go quote me cheesy
LoL

Anyways, I modified my comment above.
Check it out
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by tosyne2much(m): 11:27pm On Oct 29, 2017
adepeter2027:

You have a point but come to think of it, it looks like bvllsh!t from another perspective cos even believers have not been able to proof the existence of God despite all the knowledge they have acquired.
The existence of God does not really need to be publicly proven. Just follow His path and He will prove his existence to you. That's how it works sir
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by adepeter2027(m): 11:29pm On Oct 29, 2017
tosyne2much:
The existence of God does not really need to be publicly proven. Just follow his path and he will prove his existence to you. That's how it works sir

Jesus christ

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Martinez19(m): 11:41pm On Oct 29, 2017
tosyne2much:
The existence of God does not really need to be publicly proven. Just follow His path and He will prove his existence to you. That's how it works sir
tosyne2much, I have a flashy car that runs on water that I am selling. I don't really need to show and prove the flashy car, just pay me your money, #1000000, and the car would be delivered to you. That's how it works sir.

undecided

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Nobody: 11:51pm On Oct 29, 2017
adepeter2027:


Jesus christ
Lol grin
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Nobody: 11:55pm On Oct 29, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
So what is agnosticism?

The view that the existence of God or deities is unknown,  unproven, or unprovable.
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Olumaeme: 12:04am On Oct 30, 2017
One thing I know for sure is that nobody can tell categorically how this world came to being, we just saw ourselves in it, trough our parents who were given birth to by their own parents too.

Probably some group of persons just decided to bring up the word God as the "creator" since nobody knows because if we look at this religious books critically, their stories don't just add up.... And they make you to believe that you can't question GOD, that he does things the way he likes... Lol

In summary, God did not create humans, human beings created God....

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by NotComplaining: 4:05am On Oct 30, 2017
A god has to be single definite entity in order for there to be one.

The word god itself is entirely exclusive of non-exact personalities; qualities that do not befit him, like jealousy or 6ft tall. It is like calling out Ray in a crowded room. The one bearing the name Ray will know it his him being referred to. If you decide not to call the name Ray, but call him by his traits, Ray still understands you are calling him to the exclusion of everyone else. The remaining individuals do not have to tell you they are not Ray.

Likewise, when you call god, the one who is God knows you are calling him.

Deifying objects is plagued by a whole host of intellectual contentions. Atheists are actually closer to belief than most modern religions.

An atheist has seen the candidates for this single most important position called god or gods and has rejected all their applications.

An atheist searches for holes and discrepancies in such claims and is bound to discover plethora amounts of it.

People who deify god are actually deifying something they love about themselves. It is an unexplored form of vanity that sits in the human psyche. It is when this superflouse, superimposed interpretation of a deified god is prescribed on others, that it becomes a dogma and a feast for the atheists.

God is an enigmatic presence.

In the Qur'an, there are many instances where Allah could have said worship this or envision that, it would have made worship so easy, but He rejects all of such notion.

While being explicit of who He is and where He is, Allah never describes how He looks or gives out cookie crumbs leading to his image, and that is the wisdom a true atheist looks for.

If that were the case, Arabs under the auspices of Islamic knowledge and being the ambassadors, would have drawn their version of god just as European Christians have done with God and Jesus. Even though there were no cameras then, Jesus today is white and God is an old white man with flowing gray hair.

For a canditdate to fit the bill, he has to surpass every thing we humans want to see in a god, that our vanity subconsciously create. Like god being a man or woman, being white or black, blond hair or red hair, being muscular or chubby - these are all subconscious vanities; deification of characteristics we love, that God is absolutely free from.
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by AgentOfAllah: 4:22am On Oct 30, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


But this does not imply the universe itself as a whole is eternal , does it ? Unless you are presupposing that matter is all there is wink
Like I said before, it doesn't! There's no more reason to think the universe eternal than there is to think it not! Here lies the contemporary boundary of physics as a discipline. Any affirmation of either of the positions is speculative.

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Nobody: 8:48am On Oct 30, 2017
flyDixon:
They have a name, they call themselves DEIST


They are not deists. Read up
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Nobody: 8:51am On Oct 30, 2017
tosyne2much:
The existence of God does not really need to be publicly proven. Just follow His path and He will prove his existence to you. That's how it works sir


So pls show us the evidence God has shown u about his existence
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by tosyne2much(m): 8:51am On Oct 30, 2017
Martinez19:
tosyne2much, I have a flashy car that runs on water that I am selling. I don't really need to show and prove the flashy car, just pay me your money, #1000000, and the car would be delivered to you. That's how it works sir.

undecided
So, all the miracles and wonders you see happening when people call the name of God is not a convincing evidence about the existence of God?
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by tosyne2much(m): 8:52am On Oct 30, 2017
PrecisionFx:



So pls show us the evidence God has shown u about his existence
You this man sha cheesy
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Nobody: 8:54am On Oct 30, 2017
tosyne2much:
You this man sha cheesy

grin
I thought as much.
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by Martinez19(m): 8:58am On Oct 30, 2017
tosyne2much:
So, all the miracles and wonders you see happening when people call the name of God is not a convincing evidence about the existence of God?
you mean the staged miracles and made up and exaggerated testimonies to fool people like you? Listen to me, there are no such things as miracles, signs and wonders, healing etc. Search from now till the end, you will find no such thing. Dubious people invented these to prey on the hopes of people.

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Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by tosyne2much(m): 9:01am On Oct 30, 2017
Olumaeme:
One thing I know for sure is that nobody can tell categorically how this world came to being, we just saw ourselves in it, trough our parents who were given birth to by their own parents too.

Probably some group of persons just decided to bring up the word God as the "creator" since nobody knows because if we look at this religious books critically, their stories don't just add up.... And they make you to believe that you can't question GOD, that he does things the way he likes... Lol

In summary, God did not create humans, human beings created God....
If God is a mirage, how then do you explain the miracles that happen in churches when people call his name?

Please don't tell me you're not aware of it. I want you to realistic
Re: There Are Atheists Who Acknowledge the Existence of the Creator of the Universe by tosyne2much(m): 9:04am On Oct 30, 2017
Martinez19:
you mean the staged miracles and made up and exaggerated testimonies to fool people like you? Listen to me, there are no such things as miracles, signs and wonders, healing etc. Search from now till the end, you will find no such thing. Dubious people invented these to prey on the hopes of people.
You don't mean it

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