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How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by bulletG(m): 7:14am On Feb 08, 2010 |
Hello, Nairlanders, pls 4 doz of u in Germany, how do i amend my 5yrs residence there to have there residence permit i married a bulgarian lady in greece and my 5yrs residence just came out but i want to live and work in germany, guys how do i go about it |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by juzme: 8:03am On Feb 08, 2010 |
bullet G:First you have to check if Bulgaria citizens are allowed to work in Germany. If not then she need to get work permit before both of you can live and work in Germany. Neverthlesss, you have right to visit germany with your Residence card without visa in as much as you are travelling with your spouse. So the problem will be if she needs work permit to work in Germany then it will be somehow difficult to obtain and therefore difficult for you to settle in Germany with her. It will be better to either wait for the transitional period of 2 years to be over then you will have right to live with her in any EU country or you can check other countries in EU that Bulgaria citizens are allowed to work. Good luck! |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by bulletG(m): 3:55pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
hey! guys is it that nobody wants to ans me or there is no nairalanders in Germany, pls guys i need ur contributions badly, save a soul!!!! |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by juzme: 5:26pm On Feb 08, 2010 |
you can read information from this link http://ec.europa.eu/eures/main.jsp?acro=free&lang=en&countryId=DE&fromCountryId=BG&accessing=0&content=1&restrictions=1&step=2 As a spouse of EU citizen (Bulgaria) you cannot live or work in Germany without the EU citizen obtaining a work permit. Both of you can only visit Germany for a period of 3 months only. You only ask your spouse to search for job in Germany and obtain a work permit then you can join her in Germany. for now you can virtually do nothing without your spouse. you right to live in germany depends on her. |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by Freiburger(m): 11:17pm On Feb 10, 2010 |
I think your wife i.e the Bulgaria citizen 've to obtain an Eu citizen registration certificate from the foreign office here in Germany, this normaly takes few some minutes. B4 u the spouse can apply for an EG 5 yrs resident permit. but note the u yourself will experience some delays in obtain your EG residence coz she ist not a citizen of the Eu 25, Bulgaria and Rumania were recently admitted into the Eu i think in 2007. If i corretly understood u earlier u already have a 5yrs residence in Greece so your case supposed to be processed faster since u are both coming from another Eu country. Also check out www.Aufenthaltstitel.de navigate to a word called UBERSETZUNG to enable u transcribe the page to English language or anyother suitable language. All the best. |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by bulletG(m): 1:41pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
@ Freiburger Thanks my brother for dat information, infact u r God sent, please my brother if u dont mind, i will love 2 have your Email addy so i can mail u directly and get more information from u as in where and how my wife can obtain that Eu registration in germany thanks once more hope 2 hear frm ya soon. my email addy is ejykco2002@yahoo.com |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by juzme: 6:06pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
It is better you face the reality. In Germany it will not be easy at the moment for you to obtain residence card. This is because your wife will need to obtain a work permit in germany before she can get regisered. She need to get a job first before she cant get registered in Germany. And you may end up losing your Residence card in Greece if you stay out of the country for a long time. You wife can benefit to EU regulation on freedom of movement only by visiting without visa and can stay up to 90 days in Germany. She can search for job as well and if she find then she can apply for work permit. It only after she has done this that you will have to register as a spouse of EU citizen. My advise for you is that if your wife should try search for work in Germany if she find then good for both of you. But if she cannot find then, it is better you wait after Bulgaria transitional period expires which I think will be soon. |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by Freiburger(m): 7:07pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
juzme: Do Eu citizens need a work permit to work in other Eu countries? I know that Bulgaria and Rumania are exections in some countries but not in Germany. Like i said before she will not require any work permit to work in Germany the registration certificate is only require because he the non-Eu citizen will be appyling for the resident permit and that registration certificate confirms the right of resident which she already have. Germany does not discriminate against he new Eu members that were recently integrated, Ofcouse it's necessary for the Eu spouse to have a job when applying for the 5yrs resident permit so as to avoid any doubt the foreign authority mght have that the couples will rely on state fund as u know Germany has one of the most effficient social system in the world. |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by suxes2005(m): 7:28pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
Freiburger please i need to talk to you ASAP kinda write me on pear_prince at yahoo.com SHALOM |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by bulletG(m): 7:52pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
@ juzme are u sure of wot u r talking abt, how can u say i will loose my 5yrs residence if i stay out of greece for a long time, i dnt need to pay any tax 2 greek govt in other 2 renew my residence, i guz u ve 2 do ur research very well. As for travelling with my wife to any shengen country for 90 days, everybody knws dat one, its no news, so pls dnt complicate issues for me by giving me a non researched news without facts thereby confusing me d more. Please guys i still need ur contribuctions to clearify me d more |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by bulletG(m): 8:30pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
@ Freiburger. Here in greece we have lawyers who helps and assits in getting permits, like my wife, bcoz she is not frm greece,she has to get her permit before i could submit for my 5yrs and a lawyer helped her 2 get d necessary document for 4 d permit. In germany do the have this kind of lawyers that can assit both me and my wife 2 get my 5yrs residence, and unlike wot juzme said bulgarians dont need working permit 2 work in greece, rather d only need to get there indefinite residence permit in other to work,, so i dnt knw if its same process in germany |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by benincitys(f): 11:18pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
bullet G, if you stay too long outside Greece you will lost your permit that is for sure so be careful, germany is not a easy country to live they are many jobless people here . |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by juzme: 11:21pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
Freiburger:It is always a common practice to that new EU member states are subjected to transitional period and under this period they can visit other member states in search of jobs and other things. They are restricted to in some sectors of employment. Therefore, will need EU work permit to enable to work in that member state. However, not all EU member states apply this rules to the new member state. Most of the good countries in EU states do apply some restriction on Labour market to the new EU member states until after 2 years. Examples of countries that apply this transitional rules are Germany, Denmark, Ireland and UK. if you read the link I gave you very well you will understand what I mean. http://ec.europa.eu/eures/main.jsp?acro=free&lang=en&countryId=DE&fromCountryId=BG&accessing=0&content=1&restrictions=1&step=2 As for your 5 years permit. It is only valid in Greece as for residence. In some countries if you become absence in that country for some certain period of time you may loose your residence. Of course your case as spouse of EU citizen you still have right to go to Greece but they can make you reapply for your residence card if you become absence in their country for a long time. For instance, in Uk a EU spouse of non eu national will lose his right of residence if his or her spouse lose her right of residence. Your wife can do some kind of jobs in Germany without work permit but not a documented job. And in this case both of cannot register your right of residence in germany expect she find a job and obtain EU work permit. |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by juzme: 11:41pm On Feb 11, 2010 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3513889.stm this is 2009 News but that is still want is happening in Germany and other EU countries. You can read the article for proper understanding too. |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by Freiburger(m): 11:12am On Feb 12, 2010 |
juzme: |
Re: How Do I Mend My Five Years Greece Residence In Germany by juzme: 12:17pm On Feb 12, 2010 |
Ukraine, Croatia and some other eastern Europe that are not a member of EU citizen require visa to visit most western Europe. In the article they are talking about New Joined EU states. e.g Bulgaria and Romania. why I point about him lossing his residence in Greece is because he can risk going to Germany and will not have permit in Germany because his wife was unable to find job or get an EU work permit in Germany. then he may want to go back Greece which he now need to apply for another residence card. which will be determined if his wife is execercising her EU treaty right. My Advice again is since you already have 5 years residence in Greece. It will be better for you to apply for UK Visa (EU (family permit) then both of you will move to UK if they grant you visa and search for job and I think it may be easier for her to find job in Uk and as well EU work permit than in Germany that she will require to know German or dutch Language in order t be fully employed. Good luck! |
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