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Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by ow11(m): 6:43pm On Feb 09, 2010
The Nigerian Police Force have been accused of extra-judicial killings in the past. Al Jazeera English have irrefutable video evidence showing the cowardice of our forces and the brutal murder of 6 young men whose guilt is debatable.

The IG has to comment on the action of his boys and Mr Ahmadu under whose watch these attacks took place should be fired and arrested.

Viewer discretion is advised

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Why do we behave like animals with no regard to the sanctity of human life?
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by sjeezy8: 6:50pm On Feb 09, 2010
damn those were young guys like 12-14 no evidence that they were boko haram or anything- shet
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by tunnytox(m): 8:18pm On Feb 09, 2010
this is very barbaric!!!!!, i have never ever see anything like this in my entire life shocked shocked shocked Killing people for NO JUST CAUSE!!! without trial!!!
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 5:45pm On Feb 10, 2010
perhaps we should see a video of the rioters killing innocent civilians too. . . .and dont forget that many of those rioters and al-majiris who do these killings are also under-aged. perhaps we should see a video of their victims being slaughtered like fowl.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by Mudley313: 7:02pm On Feb 10, 2010
perhaps we should see a video of the rioters killing innocent civilians too. . . .and dont forget that many of those rioters and al-majiris who do these killings are also under-aged. perhaps we should see a video of their victims being slaughtered like fowl.

hey, im a christain n sick of all dis jihadist type actions coming from the north but u sir need to stop being ignorant, dis is not the stone age, u dont go about executing people extra-judicially whether they're boko haram or not, dis is just barbaric n im appalled dat a normal person will watch dis n support dis barbaric act, u my friend are despicable
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 7:25pm On Feb 10, 2010
and you are cerebrally leprous for not understanding that every coin has 2 sides. there are thousands of civilians in that city who are alive today because the military stepped in to stop the carnage. violence breeds violence. i dont like what the military did but i refuse to join the frenzy to destroy the image of our military. period. without these guys boko haram would have risen from a movement to a revolution. at the cost of human heads.

there are two sides to a story, always know that. i agree that there should be arrest, trial and judgement but have u asked why these people were not tried in a court? have u investigated our juducial system in nigeria to find out why it cant handle this kind of situation?
have u asked why we have this kind of riots time and again for the past 50yrs?
have u met the families of people killed in these useless violence that destroys our nation?
did you try to find out why the military did this? they did it in jos, maidugiri,niger-delta there are vidoes all over the internet portraying nigerian military as a band of barbarians. but what we dont see are the real barbarians who wake up in the morning and attack their fellow citizens without excuse.

getaway jare
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by edoyad(m): 7:28pm On Feb 10, 2010
You people don't understand, the govt is trying to hide It's failure regarding Nigeria's youths. Most of these ministers and gov'nors where these almajiris come from justify the continuation of the culture and know that if it is discovered that they're the ones being used to cause religious violence would be forced to spend lootable resources rehabilitating them.
All these poor almajiris are made to do a man's job for half a plate of food that you won't feed your enemy with; a lot of them are sexually abused ; they are brain washed and sent on suicide missions like the one you just saw ; when election comes they register the older ones among them ; there are so many evil things some wicked people commit against these poor children and any one who can help this thing end should start speaking up now !
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 7:38pm On Feb 10, 2010
then when the almajiris see that the barbaric military is capable of shooting kids in public(not to talk of what they can do secretly) . .then they will think twice about obeying their masters or at least ask that their masters kids join them.

if the kids cant stop themselves from obeying their masters, or if they are brainwashed into death, then it remains with the rational northern musli.m elite to come to their aid . . whatever way it is, this regular norther slaughter of innocent civilians must stop. if it takes barbaric soldiers to stop it. . . . so be it. after all it took 4yrs and 600,000 deaths to end slavery. people cant continue living in fear in their own country bc of some fundamentalists

i'll rather we have a sound judicial system to take care of all these . . but we dont. . . while we are building a strong judicial system, let the military maintain some sort of order . . somehow . . so that somebody in maidugiri does not kill his neighbour in 2006 because of what was written in a newspaper that he didn read in 2005 in denmark.

i havent heard of boko haram murders in maidugiri for sometime . . . .
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by edoyad(m): 7:54pm On Feb 10, 2010
Preselect i'm not calling The Nigerian Military Barbaric, how could i ? I've seen them save lives even beyond our country and even West Africa. But the thing is that the people who give them the authority to kill these boys are the cause of the problem. Katsina, Kano etc has millions of almajiris on the streets not going to school but their elite don't seem to see anything wrong with the culture of bringing millions of zombies into the world. Their own children are going to University College London for education while these ones are used as pawns in politically motivated ethno-religious violence.

I just hope anybody, just anybody can come to stop this profound problem.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 8:05pm On Feb 10, 2010
i agree with you. they have to be stopped . . .somehow . . . but how? nobody has any solution now. . . . and yet these hoodlums have been killing people year in year out since 1953 and nothing happens. someone has to let them and thier cronies know that every action has consequences. period.

nobody has a solution to stop them and you want them to keep killing people while someone is trying to figure out how to stop them? no way. let the ''barbaric'' military stop the barbaric militants. period. . . until someone comes up with a civilised way of stopping these people.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by yeswecan(m): 8:09pm On Feb 10, 2010
my god ! !
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by oderemo(m): 8:26pm On Feb 10, 2010
TO ME , i will say this 1000x , the day we take away religion from our way of living, believe., and mostly our daily life, the better the society we will have.
i have witness time and time again even at petrol station in the north where people bear not look up when one of chief or imams car is being fuel. this religious demi GOD that pushes kids to commit atrocities in the name of one religion.
like the other guy said while their kids are studying in city university.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by pixiraver(m): 8:49pm On Feb 10, 2010
I felt sick in my stomach when i saw this video, killing people without trial? I mean there is no word i can use in describing these killings. Everyone in our government will pay for this with their blood, God will punish them just the way they have killed innocent people. shocked
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by tunnytox(m): 9:35pm On Feb 10, 2010
no matter who they are and whatever offences they could have commited it still not right to the police to kill them like pigs especially without trial, haba shocked shocked
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by ow11(m): 11:12pm On Feb 10, 2010
@pres_elect

You would also want to believe the 2 young men in crutches were mass-murderers, eh? It is very easy to console oneself over a wrong practice by seeking some form of justification for that action. That doesn't make it right in any way.

You are quite certain these rampant murders of Non-Hausas in the North will probably happen again without these young men murdered in cold blood.Therefore, the actions of the NPF is NOT justified under ANY circumstance and is appalling since these are supposed to be trained officers. We as 'Non-Barbarians' have to petition and speak against the root cause of these riots even if it means using the murder of 'supposed murderers' as a tool for our insistence that the culture responsible for the incessant riots in the North be changed.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 6:11pm On Feb 11, 2010
ow11:

@pres_elect

You would also want to believe the 2 young men in crutches were mass-murderers, eh? It is very easy to console oneself over a wrong practice by seeking some form of justification for that action. That doesn't make it right in any way.
i cannot confirm that they were mass murderers. but, i cannot confirm that they were not mass murderers. this i can confirm, there were mass murderers in that city and if not for police presence the mass murderers would have continued murdering people in mass numbers, so police presence prevented the murder of perhaps 1000 extra nigerians in that city. appreciate that.


You are quite certain these rampant murders of Non-Hausas in the North will probably happen again without these young men murdered in cold blood.Therefore, the actions of the NPF is NOT justified under ANY circumstance and is appalling since these are supposed to be trained officers.
now that you seem to have an idea of the magnitude of the problems we have in nigeria, what solutions do you present? since 1953 over 50,000 nigerians have lost their lives at the hands of their fellow nigerians just because they are from a different ethnic group or religion and nothing has been done about it, for over 50yrs. . . think men . . this nonsense has to stop somehow . . yes, it must stop. if it means dropping a nuclear bomb to wipe out the whole country, fine. but it must stop. either we live in peace or we all die together.
and talking of training, what kind of training did ur govt give those officers? perhaps if the govt invested more money into police training and enlightenment, they would have been more efficient not just in controlling this mess but more importantly, preventing it. but someone used the budget money to buy himself a house in herffordshire and people praised him.

We as 'Non-Barbarians' have to petition and speak against the root cause of these riots even if it means using the murder of 'supposed murderers' as a tool for our insistence that the culture responsible for the incessant riots in the North be changed.
''petition'' and ''speak'' . . . hmmn, since 1953 . . . . i rest my case
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 6:26pm On Feb 11, 2010
some people here dont seem to understand me. i may seem barbaric, perhaps i am, but i'm not crazy. violence begets violence. there are things that must not be tolerated in a society. NEVER. let me put out 3 examples. 2 nigerian and 1 american. charity begins at home. . .
1. secession. this was something that nigeria will not tolerate. and when it happened, it was crushed. no debate, no petition, no long speeches, it was crushed to the pit. cost=2.5 million lives. message= let no one bring this topic again.

2. mass murder of ''non indigenes''. why should i, a nigerian, feel more safe in a remote village in england with racists than in katsina, my own country? why?
every time thousands of nigerians are killed. no arrest. no punishment. some peeps think they can do anything and get away with it. do something once, it is a mistake, twice incompetence, thrice--habit, > 3x=tradition. it has become a tradition for people to wake up and murder those from another ethnic group. and you tell me it is one country. let us break up, ooops, i forgot, that is off the table, what do we do? we dont have efficient judicial system due to corruption, so what happens? somebody say something. bc while you are thinking of a solution, another 1-2000 nigerians are being killed somewhere. this nonsense must stop. I support using full force to end this. either there is peace for all or peace for no one.

3. 600,000 people had to die b4 slavery could end in america. in nigeria at least 50,000 have died since the 1950s and still this nonsense continues. i am glad they are showing these videos of the military killings and i hope they are showing the clips in nigeria too. so that people can at least think twice b4 they carry arms to kill their neighbour.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 6:36pm On Feb 11, 2010

in the 1950s, the AG, a political party with a huge support base in the south-west wanted to hold a rally in the northern city of kano, a riot broke out out easterners, mainly igbos were slaughtered.

ok, lets start from independence

1966: anti ironsi's ''unity'' decree riots in the north. igbos and easterners slaughtered in many cities in the north including kaduna,katsina,kano etc
july 1966: pre civil war progrom, 30,000 igbos slaughtered allover the north
1980s: maitasaine riots in many parts of the north, gombe, yola etc. thousands of christians murdered in cold blood. Gen Idiagbon had to crush it militarily when shagari was overthrown. elements of maitasaine remained up till the late 80s
1991:reinhard bonnke came to preach in kano, anti-xtian riots broke out in kano, xtians and igbos attacked mercilessly.
1992:zagon kataf riots, kaduna exploded. northern muslims vs northern xtians. for the first time, someone was arrested, charged and later released.
1999:ife/modakeke, aguleri/umuleri, border communities in cross-river/akwa-ibom states, niger-delta uprising etc. thousands die. . . no arrests, no trials
2000: sharia riots. . . kaduna and retaliatory explosions in Aba and Onitsha
2001:Jos, a very peaceful city explodes with religious violence . . .
2002:anti miss world riots in kaduna. . . hundreds killed, no arrests, no trial, no conviction.
2004: jos again, jos would explode again in 2008,2009, and even 2010. . . (annual jos riots)
2008/9: boko haram came

the list is endless, i'm sure i left out a lot. ahaaa, bauchi riots of 1991, there are others too . . . not counting the senseless killings on our campuses

these riots have one thing in common . . . no arrests, no trials, no conviction. . . the killers live to kill another day. the judicial system in nigeria seemed ill equipped to take care of this mess and the mess keeps getting messier. what shall be done?

i dont want to come here and claim that i have the solutions, but i know something we all agree on. . . this has to stop . . .somehow

what more can i say. all these killings affect real human beings and families are damaged forever. this is not life. i guess it is better we all drop dead. let the russians nuke us all and use our land for nuclear tests. if we cant live together, we might as well die together but this periodic unchallenged violence must end.
and pls i'll like to have a video of all the people who have been killed since 1953(excluding the civil war, where some people will excuse that for war)
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by coolier(f): 6:56pm On Feb 11, 2010
tunnytox:

no matter who they are and whatever offences they could have commited it still not right to the police to kill them like pigs especially without trial, haba shocked shocked
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by WilyWily5: 6:59pm On Feb 11, 2010
Inasmuch as those executed by Dirty Stinking Nigeria Soldiers are Moslems, I have nothing against.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by oderemo(m): 7:03pm On Feb 11, 2010
and talking of training, what kind of training did your govt give those officers? perhaps if the govt invested more money into police training and enlightenment, they would have been more efficient not just in controlling this mess but more importantly, preventing it. but someone used the budget money to buy himself a house in herffordshire and people praised him.

i am following your trend of argument and can feel your frustration , but ,but i hope you are not justifying this behaviour by our military. i just hope not.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 7:19pm On Feb 11, 2010
@ode-remo
thanks for understanding. many people here see this video, they are shocked. they have not seen anything like this before. i was shocked too. think a bit more, why are we not equally shocked when we hear of ethno-religious violence in nigeria? i'll tell you, we have become used to it. yes, it is now a tradition. but i refuse to accept such nonsense. it has to stop. if it means returning the military to power to use force at random, let it be.

a lot of innocent people will die in this military killings, sure, but some if not most(or even all) of those killed by the military are guilty. and more importantly, their presence and show of force will prevent or at least halt this incessant killings. and dont forget, if they didnt come at all, the hoodlums will kill more people, all of them innocent. so choose.

let us not decieve ourselves, our country, nigeria, is fvcked up. there is nothing any of us can do about it and if any diasporan nigeria disagrees, let him go home and live in a part of the country other than where his ancestors lived. what we should be thinking now is how to deliver a more sane country to the next generation of nigerians(those who will be born this yr 2010, and beyond) let themhave a country where they can live anywhere at will. and to do this we must bring peace, education and democracy. if we cant do this then let us all destroy the nation bc i see no reason in producing children who will suffer in this country when the rest of the world is moving forward. this is 21st century. how many countries on earth still have this trend of killing their own citizens for no reason. It has to stop . . .somehow . . anyhow . . . it must stop. THIS NONSENSE MUST STOP
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 7:31pm On Feb 11, 2010
I accept that what the military is doing is barbaric. I ask, who has a better plan? someone suggested petition and speaking. . . . . . i laugh in swahili. . . . .before you finish your speach, another 1,000 are matcheted in another city. b4 u get a pen to write your petition, another city is on fire with 200 missing citizens. what happens while you are writing ur petition? this people have to be contained now or else . . . . .

imagine when these militia become greater than the military . . .
jos today, sagamu 2mrw, aba 2day, maidugiri 2mrw, ife/modakek 2day, kano 2mrw, bauchi next day, kaduna again, back to jos, then ijaw/itsekiri, okoyong/akwa-ibom today, jos again 2mrw, nasarawa 2day, kaduna again . . etc . . etc . . etc . . year in year out . . . looooooooong before i was born . . . . today i'm a full adult . . the story is the same . . . and someone wants to write a petition to end what started b4 you were born.

i may not like what the military is doing, but who has a more practical solution? and pls let the petitioners start by asking the govt to spend more money for the police training and maintainance. these officers look like hoodlums themselves
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 7:05pm On Mar 08, 2010
ow11:

@pres_elect
We as 'Non-Barbarians' have to petition and speak against the root cause of these riots even if it means using the murder of 'supposed murderers' as a tool for our insistence that the culture responsible for the incessant riots in the North be changed.

while people like my friend ow11 are preparing to write their petition another 200-500 nigerians have been sent to mass graves in a terrible way. when i say this barbarism has to stop somehow people accused me of supporting the soldiers who shoot at random. i'm sure those hundreds of slain nigerians and their families would have loved it if a few soldiers were available to help finish off these fulani hoodlums who make no distinction between nama and human beings when they have their matchetes

@ow11
pls hurry up with your petition. time is running out
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by Nobody: 7:18pm On Mar 08, 2010
aha where were those folks who were claiming i was inhuman for supporting the extra judicial killing of these animals? grin
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 7:19pm On Mar 08, 2010
they are writing their petition grin grin grin . . petitioning the president . . ooooops . . we have none grin
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by ow11(m): 6:44am On Mar 09, 2010
pres-elect:

while people like my friend ow11 are preparing to write their petition another 200-500 nigerians have been sent to mass graves in a terrible way. when i say this barbarism has to stop somehow people accused me of supporting the soldiers who shoot at random. i'm sure those hundreds of slain nigerians and their families would have loved it if a few soldiers were available to help finish off these fulani hoodlums who make no distinction between nama and human beings when they have their matchetes

@ow11
pls hurry up with your petition. time is running out

So did that murder stop the Plateau violence like you suggest?

The solution to this mess lies in forcing the hands of the FG to hold down the organisers of these killing o'rgies. Arresting a few zombies and summarily executing them only fuels the need to carry out the orgie's by aggrieved family and friends.You are quite aware of the tactic employed by the US army in Iraq.

People have been hurt by these murders and going down the route of the insane people only makes us as evil as they are and will just continue the cycle of violence. YOU CANNOT KILL ALL THE ALMAJIRIS IN THE NORTH. However, you can stop the reason why they go on rampage.

There are poor muslims in many African countries and they do not go on killing sprees therefore I would be hard pressed to believe that almajiri's are only present in Northern Nigeria.


SUGGESTED SOLUTION

A different approach would be of course military protection and possible separation of warring factions by creating a buffer zone between the communities. Whilst this is in place, a concerted and determined effort will be put in place to find the organisers and bring them to justice. Thereafter infiltration by the SSS (their work is not to arrest journalists) of the communities prone to violence to gather information and prevent a repeat.

If we do want a solution, we can continue retaliating and keep the vicious cycle going OR we can remove our angry and condescending glasses and find a lasting solution to this.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 3:07pm On Mar 09, 2010
good point. i'm glad to know that you understand the importance of the military in ending this mess. this kind of brutality deserves a brutal assault as well bc the people who this kind of things, attacking unarmed women and children at 3.00am in the morning are not likely to be civil in their lifetime. i agree with you that a complete military presence will be necessary there, but i tell you, if the military is permanently placed in the jos area, there would be violence in another area(may be this time it would be in another northern state) what happens. how many military men will we use to permanently guard places?

if the military permanently stays there and some violence escalates again, what should the military do? attack them violently or try to arrest armed militants in a killer mood? uptill this moment, nobody has convinced me of any suitable solution to this mess, and i insist, this nonsense must stop . . .somehow . . . anyhow . . . it must stop. and if it means using nuclear weapons to destroy both the good and the bad, i support it. bc there comes a point when people have to understand that death is better than some living conditions. and for me, to live in my country, my village and I cant sleep bc of of fear of attack from my fellow citizens, who will kill both men and women, including pregnant women and babies. . . . .it is worse than death.

so when people post videos of the military killing civilians they should post pictures of victims of ''civilian'' hoodlums too. to get a better picture.
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by ow11(m): 3:24pm On Mar 09, 2010
pres-elect:

and i insist, this nonsense must stop . . .somehow . . . anyhow . . . it must stop. and if it means using[b] nuclear weapons to destroy both the good and the bad, i support it[/b]. bc there comes a point when people have to understand that death is better than some living conditions. and for me, to live in my country, my village and I cant sleep bc of of fear of attack from my fellow citizens, who will kill both men and women, including pregnant women and babies. . . . .it is worse than death.

shocked shocked shocked shocked

You subscribe total annihilation or in better terms a genocide to bring an end to the problem. What is the difference between this comment and the careless one made by Hon. Na'allah?

BTW, It is very easy to create buffer zones. Since people have refused to leave in peace and harmony, they will loose their convenience and homes for the sake of peace!
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by preselect(m): 7:44pm On Mar 11, 2010
contrary to the general belief that musli.ms do this with the hope of some 72 psychotic virgins by a river of wine in some non existent heaven, i do believe that the nigerian muslim-s do this bc they know they can get away with it. i dont think these ones were thinking of any heaven at all. those who think of heaven are perhaps the suicide bombers in the middle east. even our own shameful abdul mutallab lost his nerve and wanted to live. nigerians dont like to die, so that 72 virgin story is not the drive for this nonsense. if it were, the hoodlums in maidugiri wont be afraid to die, but they were all shaking in that video where the police mowed them down.

if we have full repercussions this nonsense wont happen regularly. line up the hoodlums and shoot like they did in maidugiri. i have not heard of any wahala in maidugiri at all. if we cant live in peace, we may as well all drop dead. at least we will be used as an example for future generations on how not to run in a nation.

meanwhile our politicians are busy thinking of the next election, while we are busy waiting for the next attack
Re: Extra-judicial Murder Of Innocent Nigerians - Viewer Discretion! by ow11(m): 10:53am On Mar 15, 2010
I have to agree with you on this point. The leaders of these murderfests have to be jailed for us to begin to see the end of this nonsense.

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