Getting married is the next thing on my plans and this genotype issue is standing on my way. I have ended a number of relationships before because of this issue.

Please guys, any AS/AS married couple who were aware of their genotype before marriage. I want to know what medical approaches you used to manage child conception and pregnancy to avoid SS kids

Please I will be grateful for such information. Been reading up some medical literature about this issue and they seem to suggest a foetus' genotype cannot be guaranteed using conventional tests prior to delivery due to its blood nature

My gf of 2 years turned out to be AS from a recent test even though she said she was AA from older tests

Anyone with such history, please care to share. Your opinions will come in handy in taking a decision

Brother see ehn, let's tell ourselves the bitter truth, you guys have to chin up and break up, or live with the guilt and consequences. I treat lots of these sickle kids and I must tell you, its not what you would wish for your kids. Some kids go as far as blaming their parents for bringing them into the world. Can you live with that guilt?
Ofcus, medically there is a way out, which I should reassure is beyond the reach of the average Nigerian. Its called gene selection and it would cost you millions for each child you want to have. Otherwise, you stand a 1 in 4 chance of having a sickler for every pregnancy.
Let's do it this way, make.a visit to the hospital, specifically the children emergency and see what those kids are going through.
@@Axon

No offence dude but "she said she was AA from earlier tests"? She said? Hmmmm.

Well, let's believe I am wrongly reading a bad meaning into something although being AS is not a situation you become or contact so I don't understand a change from one genotype to another.

There is a way out for AS couples though. DON'T HAVE CHILDREN. You are not the one that'll suffer. It's some poor child who had no say in the matter.

I have experience with sicklers and I can tell you that its really not worth it-having these children I mean.

Just save yourself the trouble and get someone with the AA genotype. But if you must be with this person, I suggest the both of you don't bother procreating. Because I know a man, who was in your current situation, and he went ahead to have children. Six of them. All sicklers. All dead before age ten.

Tell me can you live like that? You might be lucky yes, but you might also be unlucky.

Best of luck anyways.

Frenchfriez:
Brother see ehn, let's tell ourselves the bitter truth, you guys have to chin up and break up, or live with the guilt and consequences. I treat lots of these sickle kids and I must tell you, its not what you would wish for your kids. Some kids go as far as blaming their parents for bringing them into the world. Can you live with that guilt?
Ofcus, medically there is a way out, which I should reassure is beyond the reach of the average Nigerian. Its called gene selection and it would cost you millions for each child you want to have. Otherwise, you stand a 1 in 4 chance of having a sickler for every pregnancy.
Let's do it this way, make.a visit to the hospital, specifically the children emergency and see what those kids are going through.
@@Axon

Can chronic vinius sampling properly detect a foetus genotype at 18 to 20 weeks? Online webmail suggests so

Also is the gene selection the same as IVF? do you know a good hospital in Nigeria that can do it. Tge doctors I spoke with don't want to explain in real terms the failure rates of these procedures

I understand the SS issue, that's why I am looking for medical options to manage it.

LewsTherin:
No offence dude but "she said she was AA from earlier tests"? She said? Hmmmm.

Well, let's believe I am wrongly reading a bad meaning into something although being AS is not a situation you become or contact so I don't understand a change from one genotype to another.

There is a way out for AS couples though. DON'T HAVE CHILDREN. You are not the one that'll suffer. It's some poor child who had no say in the matter.

The test she did before was wrong.

Axon:


Can chronic vinius sampling properly detect a foetus genotype at 18 to 20 weeks? Online webmail suggests so

To abort any unwanted foetus?

I think the IVF may give a plausible solution. If there is some way to detect the sickle cell gene in eggs and sperm. I don't know if that is possible but you can look that up.

Khonifer:
I have experience with sicklers and I can tell you that its really not worth it-having these children I mean.


Tell me can you live like that? You might be lucky yes, but you might also be unlucky.

It's a far greater chance of being unlucky. 75% greater to be precise.

use the nearest exit out of the relationship

Axon:


Can chronic vinius sampling properly detect a foetus genotype at 18 to 20 weeks? Online webmail suggests so

Also is the gene selection the same as IVF? do you know a good hospital in Nigeria that can do it. Tge doctors I spoke with don't want to explain in real terms the failure rates of these procedures

I understand the SS issue, that's why I am looking for medical options to manage it.

Chorionic villus sampling is done before the 10th week.
Gene selection is not same as IVF, its more technical and very difficult to access the service.
The sperm is made to run against an electro-magnetic field and sperms that carry undesirable traits, in this case, the sickle gene, are weeded out.
I don't think any centre in Nigeria offers such service.

Axon:
Getting married is the next thing on my plans and this genotype issue is standing on my way. I have ended a number of relationships before because of this issue.

Please guys, any AS/AS married couple who were aware of their genotype before marriage. I want to know what medical approaches you used to manage child conception and pregnancy to avoid SS kids

Please I will be grateful for such information. Been reading up some medical literature about this issue and they seem to suggest a foetus' genotype cannot be guaranteed using conventional tests prior to delivery due to its blood nature

My gf of 2 years turned out to be AS from a recent test even though she said she was AA from older tests

Anyone with such history, please care to share. Your opinions will come in handy in taking a decision

Been there done that also it's Ex gf you could continue if you love to watch kids suffer a lot of people do, along the line the frustration will out weight whatever love you guys feel you have for each other, lol I've gone through the whole phase from Gene selection to abortion , even during the course of our relationship lost a few SS friends. At the end of the day you ask yourself , do you really want to do this. Luckily she broke with me and I bounced didn't even ask why, am sure she too got overwhelmed with all the options. I feel for you bro, I do peace.

Khonifer:
I have experience with sicklers and I can tell you that its really not worth it-having these children I mean.

Just save yourself the trouble and get someone with the AA genotype. But if you must be with this person, I suggest the both of you don't bother procreating. Because I know a man, who was in your current situation, and he went ahead to have children. Six of them. All sicklers. All dead before age ten.

Tell me can you live like that? You might be lucky yes, but you might also be unlucky.

Best of luck anyways.

My aunt who is a doctor told me of a similar story all kids were SS and they died and she too died I guess the whole ordeal took a toll on her. That's some shitty story

pcguru1:


Been there done that also it's Ex gf you could continue if you love to watch kids suffer a lot of people do, along the line the frustration will out weight whatever love you guys feel you have for each other, lol I've gone through the whole phase from Gene selection to abortion , even during the course of our relationship lost a few SS friends. At the end of the day you ask yourself , do you really want to do this. Luckily she broke with me and I bounced didn't even ask why, am sure she too got overwhelmed with all the options. I feel for you bro, I do peace.

Wow... choi. No be small thing o. All right. Thanks for sharing

Frenchfriez:

Chorionic villus sampling is done before the 10th week.
Gene selection is not same as IVF, its more technical and very difficult to access the service.
The sperm is made to run against an electro-magnetic field and sperms that carry undesirable traits, in this case, the sickle gene, are weeded out.
I don't think any centre in Nigeria offers such service.

Really appreciate your input

Please you guys need to part ways.Love can also bring pain.Sorry bro!But its just the best you can do to avoid unnecessary future problems.

Are you waiting to hear from us that its ok for both of you to carry on? The genotype issue should be the first question you ask before venturing into a relationship. Ok you said she told you she was AA but did you confirm this by doing another test together in another location? If you would not have kids then you can go ahead but if you would be thinking of having kids then it’s not advisable as there is no guarantee that you might not have SS children. You need to go to the hospital to see for yourself the crisis that an SS child goes through then may be your eyes will clear because the love you think you have for her if at all you have an SS child going through crisis, will disappear. ENOUGH SAID.

https://m.facebook.com/sicklecellfoundation/

Just saw these

Suprnov3r:
https://m.facebook.com/sicklecellfoundation/

Just saw these

That's a lot of money to spend on the procedure.

Sabrina18:
That's a lot of money to spend on the procedure.

It is not much. 300k would save you from the misery of ending your relationships all for the fear of SS

Suprnov3r:
https://m.facebook.com/sicklecellfoundation/

Just saw these

Thanks for sharing this.

The sickle cell foundation made it clear that there is a 75% chance of bearing an unaffected child on each pregnancy. Not only that, you can detect the child diagnosis from about 9 1/2 weeks.

I think that's some sort of relieve.. Why I would not advise that you continue with the relationship, I think it is inappropriate to shut you down just because we've been made to believe that AS couples should not get married. Without concerns like yours, the world will not advance, technology won't grow beyond our traditional beliefs. Your chances aren't as slim as we have been made to believe..

Even if you'd end your relationship, I think you've made a wise step.

I actually agree with Acidosis. We shouldn't close out the relationship due to genetype incompatibility. But at the same time we shouldn't be blind to a situation that can bring about intense suffering to a child through no fault of theirs. I am still an advocate of no children in this situation. However sperm or egg donations and IVF can be a way out. Adoption is my prefered option though. Way too many kids needing homes these days.

And if your lady tells you she wants to "enjoy the joys of motherhood", dude that thing is over rated. After my Lady's first pregnancy, I swore that was the last bustop. The pain, inconvenience and all that was just too much for me. 3 years after and she's pregnant again. This time, even though I'm grateful to God, I'm doing a vasectomy. No time!

Axon:
Getting married is the next thing on my plans and this genotype issue is standing on my way. I have ended a number of relationships before because of this issue.

Please guys, any AS/AS married couple who were aware of their genotype before marriage. I want to know what medical approaches you used to manage child conception and pregnancy to avoid SS kids

Please I will be grateful for such information. Been reading up some medical literature about this issue and they seem to suggest a foetus' genotype cannot be guaranteed using conventional tests prior to delivery due to its blood nature

My gf of 2 years turned out to be AS from a recent test even though she said she was AA from older tests

Anyone with such history, please care to share. Your opinions will come in handy in taking a decision

I believe your brain told you to conduct another test to confirm ur gf claims of an AA genotype, but you were blinded by love. Now emotions have grown for two years and you are in a dilemma, one which could have been prevented. This is a lesson to all unmarried AS people out there, always start every relationship with the required tests, before emotions starts growing. A word is enough for the wise.

Axon.
Options.
Adoption
Donor sperm or egg ultimately IVF

Please note that he above don't remove the possibility of you getting pregnant naturally

If you do get pregnant
Option is Prenatal diagnosis. You've seen the cost at SCF.
This option means that for EACH pregnancy you will test. EACH time you MUST test. Please Google that procedure. It's not a blood test, they will collect sample from the embryo typically through the navel.All SS kids aborted

I know only of one couple who did this ,
Good thing is they have 4 kids
Caveat...Husband was VERY rich
Downside wife had prenatal diagnosis so many times that later on in life she had to have emergency surgery because her navel collapsed

Bare in mind that that the pregnancy related options PRESUME you have NO OTHER INFERTILITY ISSUES. Let me explain this, I'm saying that even if SS was not an issue for many couples just getting pregnant alone is A HARD TASK. So if that is your case then it changes the dynamics of whether you would consider prenatal diagnosis when getting pregnant alone is an issue.

It's better you KNOW ALL THE RISKS so that if you decide to go ahead you can discuss BEFOREHAND what you would do in case any if them happen to you.
That's simply being reponsible.

salsera:
Axon.
Options.
Adoption
Donor sperm or egg ultimately IVF

Please note that he above don't remove the possibility of you getting pregnant naturally

If you do get pregnant
Option is Prenatal diagnosis. You've seen the cost at SCF.
This option means that for EACH pregnancy you will test. EACH time you MUST test. Please Google that procedure. It's not a blood test, they will collect sample from the embryo typically through the navel.All SS kids aborted

I know only of one couple who did this ,
Good thing is they have 4 kids
Caveat...Husband was VERY rich
Downside wife had prenatal diagnosis so many times that later on in life she had to have emergency surgery because her navel collapsed

Bare in mind that that the pregnancy related options PRESUME you have NO OTHER INFERTILITY ISSUES. Let me explain this, I'm saying that even if SS was not an issue for many couples just getting pregnant alone is A HARD TASK. So if that is your case then it changes the dynamics of whether you would consider prenatal diagnosis when getting pregnant alone is an issue.

It's better you KNOW ALL THE RISKS so that if you decide to go ahead you can discuss BEFOREHAND what you would do in case any if them happen to you.
That's simply being reponsible.

Thanks for this navel information. It has really helped. I really wanted to know the complications of these procedures. The cost of the SCF is not much. I anticipated something more ok...

Will be running these info through her soon so we can make a decision Thanks for your time. Will he visiting the sickle centre in Idiaraba tommorrow

I wonder why people want to subject themselves to so much stress and pain despite being aware of the risks.

Love is blind, but na inside marriage eye dey clear.

Forget all this jargins on detecting it during 10 to 12th week of pregnancy.
Its somebody that has not been a parent of a child with health complication that will be jumping up and down saying there is a relief.

I am a father whose kid is having medical issues and i know how hard it is to manage the situation.

If you love your gf so much and you dont want what will hurt her,then i advice you guys should go your seperate ways.

Their is nothing good about AS/AS relationship.

I am a man who is AS married my wife who is also AS. We both knew we were not compatible before marriage. Parents and other family members kicked against us getting married but we had a baby already on the way and we told ourselves that there was no going back. We both asked God to help us as we were being very foolish and taking a huge risk. And Gid answered our prayers. We have 2 kids now and they are both AS. This is a rear case and honestly I owe everything to God. But if you ask me i will say please dont do it.as it may not end well.
Only God can explain what happened in my case.

toby0000:
I am a man who is AS married my wife who is also AS. We both knew we were not compatible before marriage. Parents and other family members kicked against us getting married but we had a baby already on the way and we told ourselves that there was no going back. We both asked God to help us as we were being very foolish and taking a huge risk. And Gid answered our prayers. We have 2 kids now and they are both AS. This is a rear case and honestly I owe everything to God. But if you ask me i will say please dont do it.as it may not end well.
Only God can explain what happened in my case.

With faith, d Lord can change his AS into AA.

Adaumunocha:
With faith, d Lord can change his AS into AA.

Pls stop disgracing yourself here.
Go to any public hospital and see things for yourself and don't drag God into potential self-inflicted problems.

I know someone who was genotype SC and died of complications at Age 56, Buhari lost a daughter aged 44 years to Sickle Cell.

Don't mislead innocent posters, if God wants to perform a miracle, let him change it before the couples get married.

I am AA and would have been able to marry a SS without issues (Yes i understand the medical challenges)
But in this day and time when i see AS contemplating to marry themselves all i see is selfishness in them.
I am a Christian i have faith that can move mountains but then the bible said in Ecc. 10:10.. Read it into the situation...If the iron be blunt, and he do not whet the edge, then must he put to more strength: but wisdom is profitable to direct.

Southerners will say e they hard for who they pray for talkless of who they curse... If you have one SS (Which is possible) your life will not remain the same

The best option is divorce.... No AS should marry AS, if love is killing you, that same love might destroy your life when you start giving birth to SS.

salsera:
Axon.
Options.
Adoption
Donor sperm or egg ultimately IVF

Please note that he above don't remove the possibility of you getting pregnant naturally

If you do get pregnant
Option is Prenatal diagnosis. You've seen the cost at SCF.
This option means that for EACH pregnancy you will test. EACH time you MUST test. Please Google that procedure. It's not a blood test, they will collect sample from the embryo typically through the navel.All SS kids aborted

I know only of one couple who did this ,
Good thing is they have 4 kids
Caveat...Husband was VERY rich
Downside wife had prenatal diagnosis so many times that later on in life she had to have emergency surgery because her navel collapsed

Bare in mind that that the pregnancy related options PRESUME you have NO OTHER INFERTILITY ISSUES. Let me explain this, I'm saying that even if SS was not an issue for many couples just getting pregnant alone is A HARD TASK. So if that is your case then it changes the dynamics of whether you would consider prenatal diagnosis when getting pregnant alone is an issue.

It's better you KNOW ALL THE RISKS so that if you decide to go ahead you can discuss BEFOREHAND what you would do in case any if them happen to you.
That's simply being reponsible.

Did the this lady fare well after the navel surgery? I'm genuinely concerned.

No matter how cheap u think it is, what abt d cost on ur wife n her health? Having to abort how many pregs!