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Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by koolboi(m): 12:43pm On Feb 27, 2010
but it baffles me sore why some idiots who think with their legs come out and call jonathan a puppet, weak. i just dont understand
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by donbuchi1(m): 1:27pm On Feb 27, 2010
presidential attitude if u ask me
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Nobody: 1:46pm On Feb 27, 2010
koolboi:

but it baffles me sore why some idiots who think with their legs come out and call jonathan a puppet, weak. i just dont understand

Goodluck Jonathan is carrying himself with dignity. I think he has an element of humility as a person and which is a rare trait in Nigerian politicians.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by deluxecad(m): 1:50pm On Feb 27, 2010
, he has both humility and patience, and I'm sure he's vibrating from some real deep realm most folks can't dig. Watch out.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Nobody: 1:54pm On Feb 27, 2010
There is a thin line between keeping a low profile and being a coward/weak. undecided
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by koolboi(m): 1:58pm On Feb 27, 2010
sure he's vibrating from some real deep realm most folks can't dig

and when the shake up is inevitable, he will definately do it
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by sjeezy8: 2:38pm On Feb 27, 2010
nuzo:

There is a thin line between keeping a low profile and being a coward/weak. undecided

spoken like a true SE'ner.- no offense but in politics you dont voice your TRUE opinion boisterously. You keep calm analyze the situation and then act.  A politician can never show his true feelings.

we thank God he is taking advice from OBJ to play it cool, keep a low profile and act docile. If he was from the SE-Nigeria would have been in a civil war by now and he would already been dead.

@ post "Honest politician is an oxymoron."
Theres no such thing as an honest politician. Jonathan may not like keeping a low profile but he has too. Imagine if he is to say[b]" they dont want me to be presido because im Ijaw and from the delta or his action showed as much" wtf CIVIL WAR![/b] immediate bombing by MEND, ijaw n all NDeltans, and Nigerian soldiers to go to the ND and start 1966 or june 1993 all over again.

He's careful not make it an ijaw issue like the igbos made it an igbo issue(biafra) and the yorubas made it their own a yoruba issue(anulling the mko election -the lock up and deaths of afeninfere leaders and abiola).

He doesnt want to die like Abiola and he doesnt want to another civil war like Biafra. He should carry on. great job
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Nobody: 4:32pm On Feb 27, 2010
sjeezy8

i think you need to clear your head of tribalism

If the Wole Soyinkas who are Yorubas and the Doras who are Igbos all kept a low profile a dead man would have been running Nigeria through his wife.

We are even having this debate because Omoyele Sowore a Yoruba man dared to report dangerous news about Nigeria and not choose to keep a low profile for the survival of his business. If Jonathan does not want to be President he should stand.

When the number 1 citizen of a country is talking about keeping a low profile, you will wonder who will run the country
Keeping a low profile means simply ceding leadership to someone else. The question is who does he want to cede it to?
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Nobody: 4:48pm On Feb 27, 2010
after 3yrs of Yar'adua you will think nigerians will want something different

Yar'adua promised us humility and all we got was a reclusive despot who hid behind surrogates to perpetrate all sorts of greed and evil.
I don't know about you but I am tired of having leaders who dont want to be leaders.

That simply tells you the individual is confused and in the wrong job.

So Jonathan should MAN UP or resign. I am sure David Mark will relish the opportunity.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by babapupa: 5:04pm On Feb 27, 2010
We don't need a low profile leader in times of crisis, we need an assertive and take charge leader to lead and reassure the citizenry that things are ok at the top.

A low profile leader creates an atmosphere of vacuum and uncertainty and ultimately prolong the crisis.


We need a visible and take charge leader, not a low profile leader. What is he low profiling for? Jonathan looks like a cool guy but let him step aside if he's not ready for prime time.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by sjeezy8: 5:21pm On Feb 27, 2010
mikeansy:

sjeezy8

i think you need to clear your head of tribalism

If the Wole Soyinkas who are Yorubas and the Doras who are Igbos all kept a low profile a dead man would have been running Nigeria through his wife.

We are even having this debate because Omoyele Sowore a Yoruba man dared to report dangerous news about Nigeria and not choose to keep a low profile for the survival of his business. If Jonathan does not want to be President he should stand.

When the number 1 citizen of a country is talking about keeping a low profile, you will wonder who will run the country
Keeping a low profile means simply ceding leadership to someone else. The question is who does he want to cede it to?

Please Soyinka and Dora arent the president or acting president of a country if there were - Soyinka would have been dead by now- SE will cause civil war if Dora doesnt become president in enough time. lets be honest I dont mean to make it tribe thing.

But if jonathan was from the SE he and those from his region wouldnt have been patient enough to get this far.
Soyinka dora and all those people who asked for power to be handed over did so because they are not in jonathans shoes.

If Soyinka was in jonathans shoes and openly asked for power to be handed to him- it would be seen as an act of disloyalty and a secret agenda -he Definately wont get anything.
Theres a reason why soyinka is an activist and can NEVER be presido. Dora did what she could for her position but she would NEVER have thought about saying it if she were jonathan.

He should be calm and lay low and be confident that US and UK are behind him. Hes been asserting himself well so far without stepping on any feet. Hes active in the Niger coup situation, assuring investors to stay in naija, what else does everyone want him to do that wont get him killed?
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Nobody: 6:19pm On Feb 27, 2010
sjeezy8:

Please Soyinka and Dora arent the president or acting president of a country if there were - Soyinka would have been dead by now- SE will cause civil war if Dora doesnt become president in enough time. lets be honest I dont mean to make it tribe thing.

But if jonathan was from the SE he and those from his region wouldnt have been patient enough to get this far.
Soyinka dora and all those people who asked for power to be handed over did so because they are not in jonathans shoes.

If Soyinka was in jonathans shoes and openly asked for power to be handed to him- it would be seen as an act of disloyalty and a secret agenda -he Definately wont get anything.
Theres a reason why soyinka is an activist and can NEVER be presido. Dora did what she could for her position but she would NEVER have thought about saying it if she were jonathan.

He should be calm and lay low and be confident that US and UK are behind him. Hes been asserting himself well so far without stepping on any feet. Hes active in the Niger coup situation, assuring investors to stay in naija, what else does everyone want him to do that wont get him killed?

you have no clue what you are talking about, I have no interest in having an exchange with someone who have no clue what they are talking about.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by mamagee3(f): 11:11pm On Feb 27, 2010
How about Jonathan get off the news and get back to making Nigeria a good place to live in.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Nobody: 12:47am On Feb 28, 2010
babapupa:

We don't need a low profile leader in times of crisis, we need an assertive and take charge leader to lead and reassure the citizenry that things are ok at the top.

A low profile leader creates an atmosphere of vacuum and uncertainty and ultimately prolong the crisis.


We need a visible and take charge leader, not a low profile leader. What is he low profiling for? Jonathan looks like a cool guy but let him step aside if he's not ready for prime time.

Nigerians like Sjeezy have gotten used to their leaders playing politics with every little situation that could be tackled right away. These dubious ways of politicking keep causing so much problems in our country than it should avoid, yet Sjeezy and co are hoping that giant strides will be made by the acting president answering to Turai in order to save his head.

On a personal level, I think GEJ is a good man but a big time weakling, first class coward and an opportunist to be a Nigerian president. I think he should tender his resignation immediately!

Just my tots.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by naso2(m): 1:57am On Feb 28, 2010
sjeezy8:

Please Soyinka and Dora arent the president or acting president of a country if there were - Soyinka would have been dead by now- SE will cause civil war if Dora doesnt become president in enough time. lets be honest I dont mean to make it tribe thing.

But if jonathan was from the SE he and those from his region wouldnt have been patient enough to get this far.
Soyinka dora and all those people who asked for power to be handed over did so because they are not in jonathans shoes.

If Soyinka was in jonathans shoes and openly asked for power to be handed to him- it would be seen as an act of disloyalty and a secret agenda -he Definately wont get anything.
Theres a reason why soyinka is an activist and can NEVER be presido. Dora did what she could for her position but she would NEVER have thought about saying it if she were jonathan.

He should be calm and lay low and be confident that US and UK are behind him. Hes been asserting himself well so far without stepping on any feet. Hes active in the Niger coup situation, assuring investors to stay in naija, what else does everyone want him to do that wont get him killed?

You think very deep . I like your post.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by houvest: 9:54am On Feb 28, 2010
Jonathan is doing just fine for now. Playing it by the ear. People are already saying he has no balls, why? He is just two and half weeks into the job and the cabal has already pulled a joker on him by bringing in(?) his boss to destabilize him. I think he needs a lot of prayers and support from all. He is not ambitious so was not expecting the president to be so ill that he would have to act or even take over. He just wanted to be the vice so all the present developments are new to him and he is just adjusting to them. people should not push him to over-reach himself and act out of character. They are those that will accuse him tomorrow of being over-ambitious and power drunk. He has to be close to God for directions, wisdom and a blueprint for Nigeria. With that he will take actions that will not be faulted. He was commended in the different handling of Aondakaa and Lukman but probably missed it in the niger dredging issue. The blueprint will pleasantly surprise all and set nigeria on the part to greatness. People talking about US and UK coming to help Nigeria against the cabal sound childish. We must ensure that Nigeria succeeds by ourselves. No other Nation will do that for us. They all have their own national and international challenges. Their assistance can only be moral. Abacha ruled for how long? We must take our destiny in our hands. More folks like Akunyili, Soyinka, David Mark,etc are needed.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Gbawe: 10:38am On Feb 28, 2010
Taking  Nigeria's democracy to the edge of ruination is not "keeping a low profile". My fellow Nigerians will never fail to amaze me with their 'unique thinking'. We had all the signs we needed that Yar Adua was going to be a poor leader.  In a clear and typically Nigerian display of self deciet and lack of national ambition sensible folks , like they are doing for Jonathan now, began making excuses for Yar Adua's leadership deficiencies that portended danger for our nation. Some of us rightly called him a clueless leader who will take us backward yet other Nigerians argued that he is  taking an "analytical approach" . They chastised us for urging "gra -gra" . So where is Nigeria today with Yar Adua's analytical approach?


Jonathan has messed up unacceptably several times in the past few months since this saga began and folks like Donald Duke have chronicled his many mess ups that encouraged dangerous dissent which threatened to derail our democracy. You guys should recognise Jonathan's poor leadership skills for what it is rather than continue to make excuses for it. You will all be dissapointed in the end. I am already looking beyond Jonathan . His poor leadrship since this mess began is proof that he is another clueless imposition leader who wants to come and learn about leadership 'on the job' to the usual detriment of Nigeria .
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by mbulela: 10:58am On Feb 28, 2010
Gbawe:

Taking  Nigeria's democracy to the edge of ruination is not "keeping a low profile". My fellow Nigerians will never fail to amaze me with their 'unique thinking'. We had all the signs we needed that Yar Adua was going to be a poor leader.  In a clear and typically Nigerian display of self deciet and lack of national ambition sensible folks , like they are doing for Jonathan now, began making excuses for Yar Adua's leadership deficiencies that portended danger for our nation. Some of us rightly called him a clueless leader who will take us backward yet other Nigerians argued that he is  taking an "analytical approach" . They chastised us for urging "gra -gra" . So where is Nigeria today with Yar Adua's analytical approach?


Jonathan has messed up unacceptably several times in the past few months since this saga began and folks like Donald Duke have chronicled his many mess ups that encouraged dangerous dissent which threatened to derail our democracy. You guys should recognise Jonathan's poor leadership skills for what it is rather than continue to make excuses for it. You will all be dissapointed in the end. I am already looking beyond Jonathan . His poor leadrship since this mess began is proof that he is another clueless imposition leader who wants to come and learn about leadership 'on the job' to the usual detriment of Nigeria .

gbam!!
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by mbulela: 11:00am On Feb 28, 2010
mikeansy:

after 3yrs of Yar'adua you will think nigerians will want something different

Yar'adua promised us humility and all we got was a reclusive despot who hid behind surrogates to perpetrate all sorts of greed and evil.
I don't know about you but I am tired of having leaders who dont want to be leaders.

That simply tells you the individual is confused and in the wrong job.

So Jonathan should MAN UP or resign. I am sure David Mark will relish the opportunity.

gbam !!!
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Beaf: 11:04am On Feb 28, 2010
na_so:

. . .
Bravery is not same as playing to the gallery. One of the first challenges of a real man is the ability to conquer himself. Yes conquer yourself when provoked  but you have to choose between temporay insult but an accomplished end OR  Fighting the commando style for "pride" ,get some public applause but miss the goal. . .

I got this quote from another article about the Nigerian saga (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=405382.msg5600183#msg5600183).
It is a statement born of profound wisdom. We need to stand back and give ear to such, even when the blood is boiling.

In the face of everything (including an attempted coup), Jonathan, just keeps bobbing right back up. He just keeps winning every bout. Why? He must be confounding quite a few people, especially those used to agbero style politics. But here is a man who knows his own measure and uses his head to brilliant effect; it is a game of chess between an extremly powerful and entrenched cabal and a lonely PHD. Guess who's won every round?

Lets leave agbero behaviour and reccommendations behind, we will never develop without displaying civilisation (both in thought and process).

Know when to conquer yourself. . .
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by mbulela: 11:14am On Feb 28, 2010
^^^^
you mistake ineptitude and docility for tactical intelligence.
how many times will i point this out to you?
you seem irredeemable.
i leave you to your belief.
Like i said earlier, time is an awesome judge.
unfortunately, his verdict in this case might be all consuming.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Beaf: 11:23am On Feb 28, 2010
^
I believe in the results I see, not any distant beer palour arguments. Jonathan has produced incredible results so far and stands tall nationally and internationally. It is time for Nigerians to learn to engage their brains rather than agbero tactics. What did those who attempted a coup last week acheive?

If "ineptitude and docility" is defeating the cabal that has held Nigeria to ransome for decades, then please, lets have more of it.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by mbulela: 11:28am On Feb 28, 2010
Beaf:

^
I believe in the results I see, not any distant beer palour arguments. Jonathan has produced incredible results so far and stands tall nationally and internationally. It is time for Nigerians to learn to engage their brains rather than agbero tactics. What did those who attempted a coup last week acheive?

If "ineptitude and docility" will defeat the cabal that has held Nigeria to ransome for decades, then please, lets have more of it.

on the basis of the phrase in bold, i give up.
posterity will judge whose argument is derived from a beer parlour.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Beaf: 11:34am On Feb 28, 2010
mbulela:

on the basis of the phrase in bold, i give up.
posterity will judge whose argument is derived from a beer parlour.

Thank you.
When Nigeria had OBJ, you lovers of gra-gra were appalled and cowering, now you are launching an underhand campaign for an out and out criminal in David Mark of the 7 day Mutallab ultimatum fame. Some Nigerians can be shocking.

Know when to conquer yourself. . .
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by MrCrackles(m): 11:40am On Feb 28, 2010
Beaf:

^
I believe in the results I see, not any distant beer palour arguments. Jonathan has produced incredible results so far and stands tall nationally and internationally. It is time for Nigerians to learn to engage their brains rather than agbero tactics. What did those who attempted a coup last week acheive?

If "ineptitude and docility" is defeating the cabal that has held Nigeria to ransome for decades, then please, lets have more of it.
Incredible results shocked shocked shocked
Are you shitting me dude?
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Beaf: 11:42am On Feb 28, 2010
MrCrackles:

Incredible results shocked shocked shocked
Are you shitting me dude?

No you're shitting yourself.

Know when to conquer yourself. . .
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by MrCrackles(m): 11:45am On Feb 28, 2010
Beaf:

No you're shitting yourself.

Know when to conquer yourself. . .
Can you further buttress your points regarding the incredible results you claimed
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by mbulela: 11:46am On Feb 28, 2010
Beaf:

Thank you.
When Nigeria had OBJ, you lovers of gra-gra were appalled and cowering, now you are launching an underhand campaign for an out and out criminal in David Mark of the 7 day Mutallab ultimatum fame. Some Nigerians can be shocking.

Know when to conquer yourself. . .

KNOW WHEN TO CONQUER YOURSELF,  so when will Jonathan conquer himself?
he seems trapped in docility and ineptitude.

how did david mark enter this discussion?
Jonathan should conquer himself and step up to the plate.
This time fate will not act on his behalf (Yar Adua will not be declared ead any time soon, if that is what he is hoping for).
Dude,i am off to bed.enjoy the rest of the day and remind Jonathan to conquer himself.
the nation awaits.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by olafolarin(m): 12:00pm On Feb 28, 2010
Beaf:

^
I believe in the results I see, not any distant beer palour arguments. Jonathan has produced incredible results so far and stands tall nationally and internationally. It is time for Nigerians to learn to engage their brains rather than agbero tactics. What did those who attempted a coup last week acheive?
If "ineptitude and docility" is defeating the cabal that has held Nigeria to ransome for decades, then please, lets have more of it.


I have to agree with you on this because Jonathan's patience is apying the expected dividends.
Yar'Adua was forced into Nigeria with the hope of relegating GEJ to VP But it seems they fell short of doing that.Nigerians are now clamouring for SMY to appear on national TV.He cant because he is still in the air-ambulance at the airport.
Jonathan is doing the right thing by waiting aside while the evil-doers go at each other.
The whole saga will play itself out when SMY is certified unfit to rule by both American,Nigerian,German and Saudi Arabian doctors.It'll give Jonathan the needed time and strength to go for the kill.

Watch OUT
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Gbawe: 12:01pm On Feb 28, 2010
Beaf:

^
I believe in the results I see, not any distant beer palour arguments. Jonathan has produced incredible results so far and stands tall nationally and internationally. It is time for Nigerians to learn to engage their brains rather than agbero tactics. What did those who attempted a coup last week acheive?

If "ineptitude and docility" is defeating the cabal that has held Nigeria to ransome for decades, then please, lets have more of it.

shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked I beg when was the meaning of the word "incredible" changed in the Oxford dictionary ?
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by princekevo(m): 12:10pm On Feb 28, 2010
I think a wake up call for him shall be a military take over. The day military discover his act of keeping a low profile as cowardice, the day they will take over power from him. More so let him not forget that north shall never give up, if they fail through Yaradua they would find any other means to get the power back, even if it is by coup. If that happens Nigerians and the ND  will never forgive him for letting the power slip away to the north.
For me the earlier he wake up the better for all of us.
Re: Jonathan, Keeping A Low Profile Is A Brilliant Idea by Nobody: 12:22pm On Feb 28, 2010
princekevo:

I think a wake up call for him shall be a military take over. The day military discover his act of keeping a low profile as cowardice, the day they will take over power from him. More so let him not forget that north shall never give up, if they fail through Yaradua they would find any other means to get the power back, even if it is by coup. If that happens Nigerians and the ND  will never forgive him for letting the power slip away to the north.
For me the earlier he wake up the better for all of us.

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