stephendamsoho:


a single follower who hasn't even visited Nairaland this week would gang up ? hopefulLandlord is correct, you're psychotic

Voltron the lying defender of hopefullandlord. You claim not to have visited Nairaland this week and yet you were on Nairaland yesterday the 18th and not only that, you commented

Is lying now part of the defence of the Wimp?

You jumped to his defence and claimed he has been ignoring me long before now ba? With that history you still claim not to be his voltron
You keep vomiting what I did not give you to eat.

Guy I repeat SWERVE!

Proudgorgeousga:


Jesus didn't condemn homosexuality he didn't talk about it. The bible is ambiguous so these different denominations translates the bible passages how they like and claim holyspirit inspired while claiming they are right while others are wrong that's the problem.

Jesus! This why it's so difficult to discuss such things with you guys........

Roman's 1:26-27

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Roon9:


Jesus! This why it's so difficult to discuss such things with you guys........

Roman's 1:26-27

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

who said what you quoted Jesus or Paul?

Proudgorgeousga:

who said what you quoted Jesus or Paul?

I like your signature

Proudgorgeousga:


who said what you quoted Jesus or Paul?

Scriptures are given by inspiration of God. The spirit is one. Certain things from the Old Testament became unnecessary when Jesus died and was risen but the fact that the issue was brought up and thrashed by Paul shows the Christian stand on such like stuffs

Proudgorgeousga:


who said what you quoted Jesus or Paul?

Jesus was asked a question regarding marriage and divorce by the pharisees In Matthew 19, the Pharisees asked Him what He thought about divorce, hoping to trap Him into disagreeing with Moses and therefore finding reason for condemning Him.

In His response about why divorce is a bad thing and a result of the hardness of human hearts, Jesus says, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”

If Jesus wanted to simply and efficiently answer the Pharisees’ question about divorce, He could have done so by skipping immediately to verse 5: “Have you not read that the two become one flesh?” That’s really the answer to the question about divorce. God joins spouses together as one flesh, and man shouldn’t separate what God has joined together.

So why does He start, in verse 4, by reminding the Pharisees that God made human beings male and female? For two reasons, at least. First, He makes this point to underscore that marriage, by its very nature, is a divinely ordained institution that the originator of marriage is the Creator Himself.

Second, He emphasizes this point to clarify that the divinely ordained institution of marriage exists only between MALE and FEMALE . God created human beings as MALE and FEMALE and not MALE AND MALE or FEMALE AND FEMALE.

If you would, ask yourself why Jesus had to start by first explaining who and who were permissible for marriage.


Cc Roon9

Roon9:


Scriptures are given by inspiration of God. The spirit is one. Certain things from the Old Testament became unnecessary when Jesus died and was risen but the fact that the issue was brought up and thrashed by Paul shows the Christian stand on such like stuffs

how can it be one spirit with different interpretations that was my question each part of this body of Christ has different doctrines. Those churches abroad that condone homosexuality still claim holy spirit.

Proudgorgeousga:


how can it be one spirit with different interpretations that was my question each part of this body of Christ has different doctrines. Those churches abroad that condone homosexuality still claim holy spirit.

After seeing the above passage, isn't the answer on the subject matter clear enough.

Roon9:


After seeing the above passage, isn't the answer on the subject matter clear enough.

They deliberately refuse to apply some mental reasoning when it comes to the bible but always insist on having their questions answered by the bible in an ABC manner.

You did good bro.

butterflylion:



Jesus was asked a question regarding marriage and divorce by the pharisees In Matthew 19, the Pharisees asked Him what He thought about divorce, hoping to trap Him into disagreeing with Moses and therefore finding reason for condemning Him.

In His response about why divorce is a bad thing and a result of the hardness of human hearts, Jesus says, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”

If Jesus wanted to simply and efficiently answer the Pharisees’ question about divorce, He could have done so by skipping immediately to verse 5: “Have you not read that the two become one flesh?” That’s really the answer to the question about divorce. God joins spouses together as one flesh, and man shouldn’t separate what God has joined together.

So why does He start, in verse 4, by reminding the Pharisees that God made human beings male and female? For two reasons, at least. First, He makes this point to underscore that marriage, by its very nature, is a divinely ordained institution that the originator of marriage is the Creator Himself.

Second, He emphasizes this point to clarify that the divinely ordained institution of marriage exists only between MALE and FEMALE . God created human beings as MALE and FEMALE and not MALE AND MALE or FEMALE AND FEMALE.

If you would, ask yourself why Jesus had to start by first explaining who and who were permissible for marriage.


Cc Roon9

#Endofstory you av said it all bro.

I'm not a very good christian I must confess but I don't try to cover my sins with the Bible. It's a terrible thing to do

butterflylion:


They deliberately refuse to apply some mental reasoning when it comes to the bible but always insist on having their questions answered by the bible in an ABC manner.

You did good bro.

It surprises me

Roon9:


After seeing the above passage, isn't the answer on the subject matter clear enough.

it didn't address why there is different denominations and doctrine despite the spirit being one.

Roon9:


It surprises me

It shouldn't surprise you bro.

They suddenly go deaf and blind when it comes to scripture and only open the bible in order to look for discrepancies where there are none.

Jesus being wiser than the wisest had to kill 2 birds with one stone when asked about marriage and divorce.

He had to deal with permissible union per sex of those involved before talking about the union eventually.

But what these atheists want to see is where Jesus emphatically said " HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN" .

anyone who does not apply 100 % of his mental capacity with the help of the holy spirit would never be able to begin to understand the things Jesus says and why.

You are doing great. Stay strong.

Proudgorgeousga:


it didn't address why there is different denominations and doctrine despite the spirit being one.

What has denomination got to do with Jesus? What has doctrine got to do with Jesus?

All we are sent to do is Preach Jesus and Him crucified!

The spirit is one but the submission to the spirit isnt. Not everyone who calls him Lord Lord are saved. Not everyone allows themselves to be led by the spirit of God.

Their spirits are willing but their flesh is weak.

Let's put spirituality aside for a minute. Let me ask you this very natural question.

DO YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD?

butterflylion:


Voltron the lying defender of hopefullandlord. You claim not to have visited Nairaland this week and yet you were on Nairaland yesterday the 18th and not only that, you commented

Is lying now part of the defence of the Wimp?

I am lying? you really are psychotic and its affected your reading abilities, I shared his post and you claimed I did it for my followers, my screenshot shows I have just a single follower "who hasn't even visited Nairaland this week" https://www.nairaland.com/redlyn

a screenshot of Redlyn



Dalaman is right, you have a mental illness and hopefulLandlord is right to ignore you, it hurts you day and night seeing him so indifferent to you, right?
btw Agentofallah made you abandon your own thread about water mr debater, I wonder why

this is my last reply to you attention seeking kid. you'll sure as hell compose another witty reply Mr Butterfly"HopefulLandlord is ignoring me because I'm a strong Christian"Lion lol, the only "strong Christian" on Nairaland by that logic
goodluck in your quest of getting HopefulLandlord's attention, something ALL other Christians have without trying

[s]You jumped to his defence and claimed he has been ignoring me long before now ba? With that history you still claim not to be his voltron
You keep vomiting what I did not give you to eat.

Guy I repeat SWERVE![/s]

[[s]quote author=stephendamsoho post=60638066] I am lying? you really are psychotic and its affected your reading abilities, I shared his post and you claimed I did it for my followers, my screenshot shows I have just a single follower "who hasn't even visited Nairaland this week" https://www.nairaland.com/redlyn

a screenshot of Redlyn[/s]



[s]Dalaman is right, you have a mental illness and hopefulLandlord is right to ignore you, it hurts you day and night seeing him so indifferent to you, right?
btw Agentofallah made you abandon your own thread about water mr debater, I wonder why

this is my last reply to you attention seeking kid. you'll sure as hell compose another witty reply Mr Butterfly"HopefulLandlord is ignoring me because I'm a strong Christian"Lion lol, the only "strong Christian" on Nairaland by that logic
goodluck in your quest of getting HopefulLandlord's attention, something ALL other Christians have without trying[/s]
[/quote]

Shaaaatttaaaap and swerve. You have no follower yet you shared your a post. Shared to who? Spirits?

I must be somehow very important to you for you to want to send me a message as early as 5am despite saying you were done.

All these your noise making over what does not concern you is looking suspicious. and very pathetic.

Ogbeni who does not frequent Nairaland yet has been monitoring me your lies dey like say you customise am for yourself

Saying I am psychotic is your Own Cup of tea because I can clearly see the psychotic one is you who has been secretly stalking me for some special reason yet does not frequent Nairaland. Makes me sure you have a different moniker you are active with by only being deceptive with this one and claiming innocenty

Let the hopeless WIMP known as hopefullandlord speak for himself and stop playing his body guard.

He can hide behind anything sha even trying to hide behind a broom stick like you

I will keep enjoying seeing him scurry away looking for the next hiding place whenever I throw my debate at him.

#na the work we dey do.

Fvckboy!

Oh and ps: my thread has not been abandoned not after I have made my submission and my grounds known. The rest was simply a banter between me and agentofallah and no debate because if you had an iota of sense you would see the thread was a free for all thought process and not debate related. He has his position and I have mine. Nothing either of us says can change that.

Once more

#na the work we dey do

Fvckboy stephendamsoho

butterflylion:
Oh and ps: my thread has not been abandoned not after I have made my submission and my grounds known. The rest was simply a banter between me and agentofallah and no debate because if you had an iota of sense you would see the thread was a free for all thought process and not debate related. He has his position and I have mine. Nothing either of us says can change that.

To be fair, I did ask you questions which you have thus far, left unanswered; so you can hopefully appreciate why it would appear to observers like you've abandoned the thread, even though there is, of course, no obligation on you to answer them.

AgentOfAllah:


To be fair, I did ask you questions which you have thus far, left unanswered; so you can hopefully appreciate why it would appear to observers like you've abandoned the thread, even though there is, of course, no obligation on you to answer them.

Precisely.

Cc catfishbilly

Roon9:


Lols! I saw your thread, you raised valid questions I must say, but what answer would really be satisfying to you really? Why don't you start from the fact that if you ask Mr. A who the Holy Spirit his to him the answer would be same with what Mr. B will definitely say

You are talking to a troll. He will troll you till you tire. Open a thread to discuss this with him, he will run off.

hopefulLandlord:


if you ask Mr A who is Muslim who Allah is to him the answer would be same with what Mr B (also a Muslim) will definitely say

the point here is that you have the same holy spirit in you but you guys can't agree on anything despite claiming to talk to the same holy spirit, that sounds very much like inconsistency to me

Can you manage to be consistent when in a discussion? When you meet a Christian why not maintain your grounds and talk Christianity, why bring in Allah, Vishnu and the rest? Do you think by doing that your readers will consider you very smart?

Uyi168:
..Na by force to debate u?

But na by force to troll every Christian thread abi?

analice107:

You are talking to a troll. He will troll you till you tire. Open a thread to discuss this with him, he will run off.

wow! you've said and heard this so many times you've started believing it

how the hell have I trolled him? seriously this has gone psychological, what's the difference between me discussing with him here and on a fresh thread? what difference does it even make? discussions happen either way

and what's up with this fad of labelling me a troll?

how exactly am I a troll? I'm known in this section for good discussions and I'm not even bragging

and with all due respect, if you're incapable of discussing with me its none of your business if others think they're capable, the world doesn't revolve around your opinion of me or any one else's for that matter

what actually went wrong with you lately?

Demmzy15:
He wasn't a Muslim in the first place!

No he wasn't. A Pakistani born Christian.

Wow, Demmyy15 the genus.

butterflylion:


Precisely.

Cc catfishbilly

Fantastic! I'm totally fine with your exercising the right not to respond to my questions. For the sake of consistency, I hope you are mature enough to refrain from harassing hopefulLandlord for exercising this same right. To persist otherwise is to advertise yourself as a hypocrite.

butterflylion:


Prove them wrong na

See desperation making you share your own post so your voltrons whom you are hiding behind shamelessly can all appear

Runner runner dodger dodger

AgentOfAllah:

Fantastic! I'm totally fine with your exercising the right not to respond to my questions. For the sake of consistency, I hope you are mature enough to refrain from harassing hopefulLandlord for exercising this same right. To persist otherwise is to advertise yourself as a hypocrite.

we did not have a debate. we had a fun banter. My thread was not meant for a debate but for simple free idea exchange.

His own case is for strictly debate purposes. He is my troll attraction

I love the way he lies runs *in rihannas voice*

butterflylion:


we did not have a debate. we had a fun banter. My thread was not meant for a debate but for simple free idea exchange.

His own case is for strictly debate purposes. He is my troll attraction

I love the way he lies runs *in rihannas voice*

To be honest, you're the only one who seems to be dismissively referring to your abrupt desertion of our conversation as "fun banter". I don't see it that way! To me, you're just avoiding questions that expose the shallowness of your belief system. Be that as it may, you are free to interpret your action (or lack thereof) however you want. What I don't understand is why you wish to deny someone else the same right you freely exercise. Is this one of the ways you "try" to be honest?