KunleOshob:

2 Peter 2:3
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandize of you:

tunnytox:

@poster
What is your problem if RCCG decides to sell open Heavens? are you being forced to buy it? do poor people use blackberry? at the end of the day you fail to realise that the Church can not be properly run without money as far as i am concerned there's NOTHING wrong in this in fact i will be buying mine NOW!!!!!

davidylan:

and so did their God become one solely for the rich.

tunnytox:

How much is even $5 in Nigeria context its just about 750 naira tell me what can 750 Naira do for you in Nigeria of today, and obviously people can borrow each other or buy a printed version which is very much cheaper. being able to afford 750 for open heaven doesn't classify you as a rich person and I don't believe this warrant all sort of comments about turning church to money making. At the end of the day they use money to produce open heaven so its not free!

tunnytox:

How much is even $5 in Nigeria context its just about 750 naira tell me what can 750 Naira do for you in Nigeria of today, and obviously people can borrow each other or buy a printed version which is very much cheaper.

debosky:

Is anyone forced to buy the app?

It cost someone money to develop the app, and the paper version of the devotional is not given out for free so why should the app be free?

This is a lot of nonsense as far as I'm concerned - the people who own Blackberrys can easily afford to pay $4.99 for an app - if they don't want to, they can buy the paper version of the devotional. If they don't want to do that, they can read their bibles themselves. No force, no compulsion, no problem!

Some of the people commenting don't even know what an app is in the first place.

viaro:

It is more blessed to give than receive (Acts 20:35).

1.    How many people have you given 750 naira today?

This is none of your business, you are arguing out of context

2.    Is it only when it comes to buying Adeboye's merchandise that N750 is debated?

I welcome constructive criticism but this particular one is baseless

3.    Adeboye has a jet already - why does he want to squeeze you dry out of N750?

How do you know this can you give any proof? this is what I am saying if you ppl have a personal score to settle with pastor Adeboye that's fair enough but don't say what you don't know or can't back up with any proof

4.    When has Adeboye thought of giving anything free to the world?
how do you know that Adeboye don't give to people he obviously can't provide for every one even Bill gates can't, don't talk about what you have no idea about

5.    Has the Gospel now become a merchandise that you're defending Adeboye's greed?

this is a malicious statement don't describe people as a greed when you obviously have little or no knowledge/information about the person. its called GOSSIPS!!

6.    What is next in the line-up of Adeboye's merchandising?

You tell us since you know better than everyone MR KNOW ALL

7.    Why do you guys under his 'merchandising spell' never see through his greed?
Thank you you don't have to pity us for any reason mind your own business

8.     How much did it cost Christ to open the heavens for humanity - $4.99 USD??

Read your Bible even in the day of the apostles people sold their possessions and left them at the feet of the apostles, evangelism needs money that is a FACT!!

9.     Will Adeboye lose eternal life if he gives his merchandise free and follow Christ?

You call it merchandise but Pastor Adeboye didn't type up this Open heavens neither was he involve with printing some other people are EMPLOYED to do this and they deserve to be PAID!!!

10.   Who commissioned Adeboye to collect "gate fee" for entrance to heaven?

its called Open heavens DAILY DEVOTIONAL not the gate of heaven if the english prooves too difficult for you to understand

"The murderer rising with the light killeth the poor and needy, and in the night is as a thief" - Job 24:14.

tunnytox:


1. How many people have you given 750 naira today?

This is none of your business, you are arguing out of context

tunnytox:


2. Is it only when it comes to buying Adeboye's merchandise that N750 is debated?

I welcome constructive criticism but this particular one is baseless

tunnytox:


3. Adeboye has a jet already - why does he want to squeeze you dry out of N750?

How do you know this can you give any proof? this is what I am saying if you ppl have a personal score to settle with pastor Adeboye that's fair enough but don't say what you don't know or can't back up with any proof

tunnytox:


4. When has Adeboye thought of giving anything free to the world?
how do you know that Adeboye don't give to people he obviously can't provide for every one even Bill gates can't, don't talk about what you have no idea about

tunnytox:


5. Has the Gospel now become a merchandise that you're defending Adeboye's greed?

this is a malicious statement don't describe people as a greed when you obviously have little or no knowledge/information about the person. its called GOSSIPS!!

tunnytox:


6.    What is next in the line-up of Adeboye's merchandising?

You tell us since you know better than everyone MR KNOW ALL

tunnytox:


7.    Why do you guys under his 'merchandising spell' never see through his greed?
Thank you you don't have to pity us for any reason mind your own business

tunnytox:


8.     How much did it cost Christ to open the heavens for humanity - $4.99 USD??

Read your Bible even in the day of the apostles people sold their possessions and left them at the feet of the apostles, evangelism needs money that is a FACT!!

tunnytox:


9.     Will Adeboye lose eternal life if he gives his merchandise free and follow Christ?

You call it merchandise but Pastor Adeboye didn't type up this Open heavens neither was he involve with printing some other people are EMPLOYED to do this and they deserve to be PAID!!!

tunnytox:


10.   Who commissioned Adeboye to collect "gate fee" for entrance to heaven?

its called Open heavens DAILY DEVOTIONAL not the gate of heaven if the english prooves too difficult for you to understand

tunnytox:

@viaro

I am not going to continue to join issues with you on this matter, you are entitled to your opinion and so am I. I still maintained that whether I have given out 750 naira to anybody have absolutely no correlation with what this thread is all about.
Mind you I have no particular interest in defending anybody I am just not comfortable with ppl opening thread with malicious intention. I have absolutely no interest in knowing the real Pastor Adeboye you know, as far as i'm concerned I listen to his preaching and i am blessed through them. If pastor Adeboye now decides to commit any sin in his closet he only have God to answer to and mind you we'll all be judged by God and it doesn't matter who you are.

this particular issue of selling Open Heaven is okay by me, in life we are all free to make choice. The problem with many ppl is they like to grumble, if you are not comfortable with your church or the pastor or its doctrine you are free to move on. Since i joined RCCG i have left 2 parishes that i am not comfortable with their actvities (mind you this has nothing to do with any financial dealings), I have never sow any unnecessary seed that i am not convinced about.I read my bible and meditate and follow God instructions not any other person's.
RCCG is bigger than pastor Adeboye and any member, all members are convinced before they agree to be members no compulsion of any kind, so i don't know why anyone need to pity any RCCG members. if by your own conviction you believe that Pastor Adeboye is greedy that's fine but as far as i know and i believe this is not the case.

On the jet issue I have read all these links before and as far as I'm concerned they are baseless and obsolete the recent news on Thisday clarified how the jet was purchased an who purchased it (unfortunately i do not have the link now)

(unfortunately i do not have the link now)

davidylan:

Of course you bet we dont. I'm sure Adeboye makes enough in a single offering to give this out for free. It wasnt more than 2000 yrs ago when the bible prophesied we would have men hawking the gospel for a price.

maedan:

Wow people are so perverse, they complain when they have to pay for Godly things. So because it's a Christian app does that mean it has to be free? And just because it's not free, does that make Adeboye a bad person?? Some folks wouldn't even value something unless they spent good cash on it.

davidylan:

I'm developing an app for salvation.

Contents:

1. John 3:16
2. Sinners prayer
3. 5 steps to do-it-yourself water baptism
4. daily devotional to maintain your walk in Christ.
5. Daily "Jesus" wallpaper for your phone.

Estimated cost of app - $9.99

Interested developers shld pls contact me.

davidylan:

Actually its the other way round. So many of you dont even understand the bible to the extent that you now glorify paying for the gospel. You dont pay for Godly things . . . grace, mercy, salvation and the sermons on the mount were free. Christ never asked those He healed to feed Him or buy Him clothes or provide a house for Him.

Not once did Paul package his epistles for sale among the early churches (if he maintained copyright on it, his descendants would be billionaires today).

But you go on paying for your sunday-sunday sermons . . .

maedan:

Umm - your bible(s) - did you obtain them free? Your Christian books, inspirational and motivational and yes, devotional, were they shared out gratis to you at church or on the street?

Let's stop looking for freebie and hand-outs, especially not when it comes to things of God. It cost Him a lot to save you, the least you can do is spend some hard-earned cash on your spiritual well-being.