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Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:31pm On Sep 28, 2017
The hadith you quoted is perfect and correct. . . . YOU WILL NOW QUOTE "SHEIKH AL BAANI" EXPLANATION ON AHLU BAYT. . . PERHAPS IF YOU HAVE HADITH TO EXPLAIN WHAT AHLU BAYT MEANS. . JUST GO ON. . . #mind you, ahlu bayt will never do, say, belief in anything their "master" (prophet muhammad) didnt . .
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 6:32pm On Sep 28, 2017
AlBaqir:


# So, how does Nabi define "f0ll0wing the truth"? Submit your proofs please. Here's my own dalil:


Imam Tirmidhi:


# Narrated Zaid bin Arqam, may Allah be pleased
with both of them: that the Messenger of Allah ( s) said:

"Indeed, I am leaving among you, that which if you hold fast to them, you shall not be misguided after me. One of them is greater than the other: The Book of Allah is a rope extended from the sky to the earth, and my family - the people of my house (wa itratih Ahl al-Baytih) - and they shall not split until they meet at the Hawd, so look at how you deal with them after me."

Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)
English reference : Vol. 1, Book 46, Hadith 3788
Arabic reference : Book 49, Hadith 4157


# Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
"I saw the Messenger of Allah during his Hajj, on the Day of 'Arafah. He was upon his camel Qaswa, giving a Khutbah, so he said: 'O people! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray: The Book of Allah and my family, the people of my house (wa itratih Ahl al-Baytih).'"

Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)

English reference : Vol. 1, Book 46, Hadith 3786
Arabic reference : Book 49, Hadith 4155

https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/49


# So, saheedi, Salafi plumber, AhluSunnah, how do you comply with the above ahadith?

# Kindly prove how you follow the above mentioned ahadith.
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 6:35pm On Sep 28, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
The hadith you quoted is perfect and correct. . . . YOU WILL NOW QUOTE "SHEIKH AL BAANI" EXPLANATION ON AHLU BAYT. . . PERHAPS IF YOU HAVE HADITH TO EXPLAIN WHAT AHLU BAYT MEANS. . JUST GO ON. . . #mind you, ahlu bayt will never do, say, belief in anything their "master" (prophet muhammad) didnt . .

# Craziness of the highest order. Wetin concern me with albani explanations on Ahlulbayt when Qur'an and Nabi explains the term "ahlulbayt"?!

# Why are you running away from " Qur'an and Sunnah"?

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Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:35pm On Sep 28, 2017
AlBaqir:


# You are now begging the challenge before you. Prove yourself that you are "following the truth". I have given you the definition of " following the truth" as explained by Nabi, salallahu alayhi wa ahli.

# That is the challenge before you.
BOOK OF ALLAH AND MY FAMILY . . . . JUST THOSE TWO YOU WANT TO EMPHASIZE ON? . . .its very clear that what rasul is saying is to FOLLOW QURAN, HADITHS AND HIS COMPANIONS . . ITS THE SAME AS FOLLOWING QURAN AND HADITH
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:40pm On Sep 28, 2017
For people in sect : they may come together in the name of islam and same perspective but their manhaj is different and they are in the same sect.. . s0me use tesubah and some d0nt. .and so on. . . . . ALSO,. SOME PEOPLE CLAIM TO BELONG TO NO SECT BUT THEY RELATE WITH OTHER SECTS, THEY GO TO THEIR BIDA OCCASIONS, THEY ARE FRIENDS WITH OTHER SECTS LEADERS . . . #QPrdp#
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 6:41pm On Sep 28, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
BOOK OF ALLAH AND MY FAMILY . . . . JUST THOSE TWO YOU WANT TO EMPHASIZE ON? . . .its very clear that what rasul is saying is to FOLLOW QURAN, HADITHS AND HIS COMPANIONS . . ITS THE SAME AS FOLLOWING QURAN AND HADITH

# Olè. Your ignorance is 100%. Try hard you cannot twist the clear words of Nabi.

# Nabi in the ahadith was addressing the People (of which the first addressee were the sahabah) to follow Quran and his itrah, the Ahl al-Bayt after him if they want salvation. So, how does that translated to "follow companions" Mr compound jahil?
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 6:44pm On Sep 28, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
For people in sect : they may come together in the name of islam and same perspective but their manhaj is different and they are in the same sect.. . s0me use tesubah and some d0nt. .and so on. . . . . ALSO,. SOME PEOPLE CLAIM TO BELONG TO NO SECT BUT THEY RELATE WITH OTHER SECTS, THEY GO TO THEIR BIDA OCCASIONS, THEY ARE FRIENDS WITH OTHER SECTS LEADERS . . . #QPrdp#

# Ogbeni, o to fi ètè sílè o, lapalapa loku ti oun pa o.

# Talk about your manhaj how it follows the truth?! That's the challenge. Don't stylishly sweep the challenge under the carpet.
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:01pm On Sep 28, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Olè. Your ignorance is 100%. Try hard you cannot twist the clear words of Nabi.

# Nabi in the ahadith was addressing the People (of which the first addressee were the sahabah) to follow Quran and his itrah, the Ahl al-Bayt after him if they want salvation. So, how does that translated to "follow companions" Mr compound jahil?
Laughing. . tell me who are ahl bayt. .with proof fr0m quran or hadith. . coz i have it. . am listening
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:10pm On Sep 28, 2017
SECT has 2 distincive feature. . .A NAME AND THEIR LEADER AND THEIR LEADER FATWA . . e.g. . .SUFI,(the name) . . (their leader) tijani,ibrahim,awwal,bulala,yaya solati, baba adama, baba kamali, habib markaz and so on. . .solatu fathi,jalabi,tawasul,isbal,shaving,cutting of beard, using tesuba, believing ALLAH is everywhere, saying and believing nankhali, oogun, magic is part of islam, tarbiya, saying amin when dua is make for them, mawlid nabiy,turning quran verse and aayah to something else and many other things they practise . . . #they do all these because their leader (amir) instructed them to . .even though its against quran and hadith, they still do it and defend it . .THESE GOES WITH EVERY SINGLE OTHER SECT
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:13pm On Sep 28, 2017
AHLU SUNNAH IS JUST A NAME THAT IS LONG EXISTING FOR ANYBODY WHO FOLLOWS QURAN AND HADITH. . . . AHLU SUNNAH HAS NO LEADER . . AHLU SUNNAH DO NOT FOLLOW FATWA OF ANY LEADER . . . AHLU SUNNAH doesnt refer to 1 or many or group. .it refers to s0me0ne or anyb0dy that f0llows quran and hadith
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:19pm On Sep 28, 2017
I follow quran and hadith and sahabahs and ahlu bahyt . . . . .ALHAMDULILLAH . . .Oh. . let me explain who ahlu bayt are. . . bukhari 2907, nasai 4067, musnad imam ahmad 18464, 15152 . . .THEY ARE THE FAMILY OF RASUL, WIVES, CHILDREN, BAANU HAASHIM, BAANU ABDUL AL MUTTALIB AND THEIR FREED SLAVES . . . .(and am sure n0n of them belongs to any sect)
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:19pm On Sep 28, 2017
I follow quran and hadith and sahabahs and ahlu bahyt . . . . .ALHAMDULILLAH . . .Oh. . let me explain who ahlu bayt are. . . bukhari 2907, nasai 4067, musnad imam ahmad 18464, 15152 . . .THEY ARE THE FAMILY OF RASUL, WIVES, CHILDREN, BAANU HAASHIM, BAANU ABDUL AL MUTTALIB AND THEIR FREED SLAVES . . . .(and am sure n0n of them belongs to any sect of nowadays) THEY BELONG TO THE JAMMA'AH
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 7:28pm On Sep 28, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
I follow quran and hadith and sahabahs and ahlu bahyt . . . . .ALHAMDULILLAH . .

# Then you have grossly alter the Hadith of Nabi and no doubt you are on the false path. All Nabi command you to follow is:

* QUR'AN AND HIS ITRAH, THE AHL AL-BAYT.

# Even any Sahabi that failed to follow the Thaqalain died on the false path, and hell fire await him.


ShaheedBinAliyu:

.THEY ARE THE FAMILY OF RASUL, WIVES, CHILDREN, BAANU HAASHIM, BAANU ABDUL AL MUTTALIB AND THEIR FREED SLAVES . . . .(and am sure n0n of them belongs to any sect)

# Again, how does Quran and Nabi define and introduced the Ahlulbayt?
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:31pm On Sep 28, 2017
HOW CAN AHLU BAYT BE SHIA? 1. shia group doesnt exist during prophet era, during abubakr, uthman, umar. . very few of them show during ali era and he burnt all of them. . SHIA group later gain ground after the best 3 generations are gone. . . 2. aesha nor any of rasul wife of family or ahlu bayt aint shite nor shia . .non of them created n0r kn0w what shia is .. 3. As we can see that shia is a sect(and rasul forbids sect), they follow their amir(ayatolah komeni and their other sheiks). .they do n0t f0llow rasul. . they follow fatwa of their imams(diff quran, hadith, adhan, salat performing, adkhar, they worship grave, does tawasul, do tell lies(taqiya), they hate sahabahs, they do curse abubakr,umar,every jumah prayer on mimbar, they hate ahlu sunnah, they accuse aeesha(wife of rasul) of adultery,they believe that ali is ALLAH,they also belief he is supposed to be rasul that angel jubril made mistake,they belief that ali should be 1st khalifah,they belief every other people that isnt in their group is a j
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:38pm On Sep 28, 2017
...is a kafir,they practise temporary marriage,they bury their imams inside mosques,they belief iran is a holy land . . .and so many other things . .(even though their imam fatwa is against quran and hadith,they believe it and still defend it)
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 7:44pm On Sep 28, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
Laughing. . tell me who are ahl bayt. .with proof fr0m quran or hadith. . coz i have it. . am listening

# The word "ahl al-bayt" means "household". If we are to go by the meaning alone, all the inhabitants of the house of the Prophet [wives, children, house-helps etc] were his "ahl al-bayt". In fact, Salman al-farsi was included as part of the prophet's ahl al-bayt despite being a non-arab, non-quraish, non-banu Hashim.


The arabs goes further to include all blood relations of a man as part of his ahl al-bayt. That's why you see some ahadith (not from the Prophet anyway) where the children of Abbas, Aqil, Jafar were counted as Prophet's household.


However, when it comes to: 1. Verse of purification, 2. Verse of Mubahala, 3. Hadith Thaqalain and 4. Hadith Khalifatain, the holy Prophet himself specialized some individuals from the whole bulk of the so-called "Ahl al-bayt". This is what is refer as "Ahl al-bayt"


# Ref 1: Verse of Purification

Imam al-Tirmidhi documents:

Umar ibn Abi salamah, the dependent of the prophet, peace be upon him:

When this verse {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O Ahl al-bayt, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed upon the prophet, peace be upon him, in the house of Umm salamah, he called Fatima, Hassan, and Hussayn and spread a clock over them while Ali was behind him. Then, he covered them with a clock. Then, he said, "O Allah! These are my Ahl al-bayt. So keep impurity away from them and purify them absolutely."

Umm salama said, "Am I with them, O prophet of Allah? He replied, "You are upon your place and you are upon a good thing."

Allamah al-Albani comments: Sahih

Source: al-Jami al-Sahih Sunan al-Tirmidhi, [annotator: Nasir din al-Albani], vol. 5, p. 351, #3205.


# Imam al-Hakim also document this same hadith in his {al-Mustadrak ala al-Sahihain, vol. 3, p.158, #4705}



# Furthermore, Imam Muslim records:

Aisha reported that Allah's apostle went out one morning wearing a stripped cloak of the black camel's hair, then there came Hasan b. Ali. He wrapped him under it, then came Hussein and he wrapped him under it along the other one (Hassan). Then came Fatima and he took her under it, then came Ali and he also took him under it and then said: {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O Ahl al-bayt, and to purify you absolutely}

Ref: Sahih Muslim, vol.4, p.1883, #2424 (61)
www.sunnah.com/muslim/44

NB: Interestingly, this is the ONLY hadith under the chapter of the merit of Ahl al-bayt in Sahih Muslim.


Observe: This verse {Allah intends but only to keep impurity away all from you, O Ahl al-bayt, and to purify you absolutely} was revealed ALONE, recited ALONE but as per arrangement today, it occupies verse 33 of sura Ahzab within the context where Allah address the wives of the Prophet.



# Ref. 2: Verse of Mubahala

{So, if someone argues with you in this (matter) after what has come to you of the knowledge, say (O Muhammad), "come let us call our sons and your sons, OUR WOMEN and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then (let us) pray and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars."} [Sura Aal-Imran:60-62]

Imam al-Hakim (d. 403H) records:

There have been Mutawattir [successive sahih narration] reports in the Tafsir Books from Abd Allah b. Abbas and others that the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, on the day of al-Mubahala, held the hands of Ali, Hassan, Hussein, and they positioned Fatima behind them. Then he said, "These are our sons, ourselves and our women, so bring yourselves, your sons and your women. Then we do Mubahala and place curse of Allah upon the liars (among us)"

Ref: kitab Ma'rifah Ulum al-hadith, [4th edition, 1400H; Beirut], pg. 50.


Imam Muslim also records:

Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Mu'awiyah b. Abi Sufyan appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said:

What prevents you from cursing Abu Turab [nickname of Ali], whereupon he said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger having said about him that I would not abuse him...

(The third occasion is) when the verse was revealed: ...come let us call our sons and your sons..." Allah's Messenger called 'Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussein and said: O Allah, these are my Ahl (household).

Ref: Sahih Muslim 2404 d. In book ref: book 44, hadith 50; book 31, hadith 5915.

NB: Interestingly, the word "Nisa'ana" is in plural form and primarily according to 90% references in the Qur'an, it refer to the wives of the Prophet (e.g see surah Ahzab). Alas! Prophet never took along ANY of his wives. This ayah was revealed in the 9th Hijri, a year after the demise of the Prophet when he challenged the Christians of Najran. Likewise no relative was taken except Ali.
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 7:53pm On Sep 28, 2017
QUR'AN DEFINES "AHL IBRAHIM (FAMILY OF IBRAHIM)".

1. Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 33 - 34:

Surely Allah chose Adam and Nuh and the Ahli of Ibrahim and the Ahli of Imran above the nations.

Offspring one of the other; and Allah is Hearing, Knowing
.



2. Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 124:

And when his Lord tried Ibrahim with certain words, he fulfilled them. He said: Surely I will make you an Imam of men. Ibrahim said: And of my offspring? My covenant does not include the unjust, said He.


# The fact that whatever happened to Nabi Ibrahim in rahma and baraka is what exactly applied to our Nabi as Hadith Salat exposed, our Prophet equally introduced his blessed itrah (offsprings) as his Ahl al-Bayt.

# Case closed.
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:20pm On Sep 28, 2017
People. .be careful of taqiya . . the hadith he quoted on ahlu bayt. ." he added to it" . . check it yourself . . imam tirmidhi volume 1 , book 46, number 3786 and 3788 .. AlBaqir, your explanation of ahlu bayt is very wrong and even family of ibrahim is different from muhammad. .and so is their message practices . . .quote from hadith or quran to butress ahlu bayt. . . . . . . . . . . . . .the hadith isnads i quoted for you explains vividly who are ahlu bayt. . .. .YOUR DEFINITI0N OF AHLUBAYT IS VERY MUCH WRONG. .. wetin koncern purification with ahlu bayt. we talking about ahlu bayt u twisting matter up with purification. . . . THE MATTER IS CLEAR.. THE LAIR IS CLEAR. . just follow 'the truth' if you like
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:25pm On Sep 28, 2017
IF YOU LIKE TWIST AHLU BAYT TO WHATEVER YOU WANT. . .#SHIA SECT IS NOT PART OF ISLAM# ..Prophet muhammad told us to stAy away fRom every kind of sect . .
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:33pm On Sep 28, 2017
EVERY SINGLE SECT IS NOT IN ISLAM . .anyone who dies a member of sect died as a kafir . . and whoever is in sect should quit before death comes . . .#SECT IS NOT PART OF PATH OF ISLAM# Rasul did not belong to any group, sahabahs did not belong to any group, ahlu bayt did not belong to any group . . .SO WE MUST STAY AWAY FROM EVERY GROUP . . .#stick with quran and sunnah# . .when our ameer show up,(ameer of our muslim nation), we will then kn0w our name ... he will kill all kufars . . 4nd islam will reign
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 8:46pm On Sep 28, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
People. .be careful of taqiya . .

# The moment your wings are clipped and cut off, you loose balance and begin to spew rubbish. Taqiyyah ko, Taribo ni.

ShaheedBinAliyu:

the hadith he quoted on ahlu bayt. ." he added to it" . . check it yourself . . imam tirmidhi volume 1 , book 46, number 3786 and 3788 ..

# So, iró lo ku e ku bayi? Anyway that's exactly what I expect from liars like you.

# I have made the post transparent by posting the website link to the Hadith. Seeker of truth will surely see it as quoted above. Besides the screenshots are now attached.

No doubt the Hadith Thaqalain is Hiroshima and Nagasaki bomb on your fake manhaj grin

ShaheedBinAliyu:

AlBaqir, your explanation of ahlu bayt is very wrong and even family of ibrahim is different from muhammad. .and so is their message practices . .

# Muhammad and his Ahlulbayt are the extension of Ahli Ibrahim. Obviously, there is sahih Hadith in Bukhari and others that say this.

# Then, Hadith Salat clarify everything. Oh...you don't know what Hadith Salat is. It is "Salat Ibrahimiyah".

ShaheedBinAliyu:
YOUR DEFINITI0N OF AHLUBAYT IS VERY MUCH WRONG. .. wetin koncern purification with ahlu bayt. we talking about ahlu bayt u twisting matter up with purification. . . . THE MATTER IS CLEAR.. THE LAIR IS CLEAR. . just follow 'the truth' if you like

# I didn't explain anything faah. I only quote the ahadith of Nabi where he himself introduced his Ahlulbayt on different occasions.

# If you think Nabi is wrong in Declaring ONLY his offsprings as his Ahlulbayt, kindly correct the Prophet.

Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 5:49am On Sep 29, 2017
AlBaqir:


Imam Tirmidhi:


# Narrated Zaid bin Arqam, may Allah be pleased
with both of them: that the Messenger of Allah ( s) said:

"Indeed, I am leaving among you, that which if you hold fast to them, you shall not be misguided after me. One of them is greater than the other: The Book of Allah is a rope extended from the sky to the earth, and my family - the people of my house (wa itratih Ahl al-Baytih) - and they shall not split until they meet at the Hawd, so look at how you deal with them after me."

Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)
English reference : Vol. 1, Book 46, Hadith 3788
Arabic reference : Book 49, Hadith 4157


# Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
"I saw the Messenger of Allah during his Hajj, on the Day of 'Arafah. He was upon his camel Qaswa, giving a Khutbah, so he said: 'O people! Indeed, I have left among you, that which if you hold fast to it, you shall not go astray: The Book of Allah and my family, the people of my house (wa itratih Ahl al-Baytih).'"

Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)

English reference : Vol. 1, Book 46, Hadith 3786
Arabic reference : Book 49, Hadith 4155

https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/49


WHAT IS THE LINGUISTIC MEANING OF "ITRAH" AS DECLARED IN THE HADITH?

* From the above ahadith, Nabi exclusively qualified the "my Ahlulbayt" with "my ITRAH" to remove any confusion and foul play as to who exactly he meant by "my Ahlulbayt".


# Fayruz Abadi says:



"The ‘itrah are the descendants of a man, and his nearest blood relations"

Source: Muhammad b. Ya’qub al-Fayruz Abadi, Al-Qamus al-Muhit (Beirut: Muasassat al-Risalah), vol. 2, p. 120



# The Sunni linguistic, Ibn Manzur also states:



"The ‘itrah of a man are his near blood relations from his offspring and others … Abu ‘Ubaydah and others said: “The ‘itrah of a man are his nearest blood relations”. Ibn al-
‘Athir said: “The ‘itrah of a man are his most special blood relations”.

Ibn al-‘Arabi said: “The ‘itrah are the descendants of a man and his offspring and progeny and the ‘itrah of the Prophet are the descendants of Fatimah the Virgin”.

It has been narrated that Abu Sa’id said: “’Itrah is the trunk of a tree and the ‘itrah of the Prophet are ‘Abd al-Mutalib and his descendants”. It is said: “The ‘itrah of the Prophet are his closest Ahl al-Bayt, AND THEY ARE his children and ‘Ali and his (i.e. ‘Ali's) children”. It is also said: “His ‘itrah are his near and far blood relations
”.

Source: Muhammad b. Makram b. Manzur al-Afriqi al-Misri, Lisan al-‘Arab (Beirut: Dār Sādir; 1st edition), vol. 4, p. 538


# The Sahabi Zayd Ibn Arqam also gives his understanding of the " ITRAH "

Imam Muslim documents about the Hadith Thaqalain:

"...

We said: “Are his (the Prophet’s) wives part of his Ahl al-Bayt?”

He (Zayd b. Arqam) said: “No, by Allāh! A woman lives with a man for a while. He then divorces her and she goes back to her parents and people. His Ahl al-Bayt are his lineage and offspring for whom alms are forbidden after him



Source: Abu al-Husayn Muslim b. al-Hajjaj al-Naysaburi al- al-Qushayri, Sahih (Beirut: Dar Ihya al-Turath al-‘Arabi)
[annotator: Muhammad Fuad ‘Abd al-Baqi], vol. 4, p. 1874, # 2408


# Through this link: see #2408 d
https://sunnah.com/muslim/44
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 4:47am On Oct 02, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
salafs manhaj and aqeedah is same as rasul

# So you mean Nabi was Athariyyah, Salafiyyah? The onus is now on your shoulder to prove it to us.
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:48am On Oct 02, 2017
AlBaqir:


# So you mean Nabi was Athariyyah, Salafiyyah? The onus is now on your shoulder to prove it to us.
Salafs only follow quran and hadith . . rasul follows ALLAH and we follow rasul and ALLAH. Rasul is the pioneer of salafiyah while ALLAH is the originator. . quran says " atiu llah, atiu rasul" . .follow ALLAH, follow rasul . .rasul acts according to ALLAH wishes . . maybe salafiyah, maybe ahlu sunnah, maybe ahlu hadith, maybe ahlu qiblah, maybe firqotun najiyah, maybe ahlu athar .. it doesnt matter. . the name doesnt matter . . What matters is that are you following quran and hadith? . .#40n05#
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:53am On Oct 02, 2017
@everybody reading this albaqir claims . . HE IS A LAIR. . check the isnad of the hadith yourself . . there is absolutely n0thing like "itrahti" in The hadith . . . shameless lair"
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 7:41am On Oct 02, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
@everybody reading this albaqir claims . . HE IS A LAIR. . check the isnad of the hadith yourself . . there is absolutely n0thing like "itrahti" in The hadith . . . shameless lair"

# You love making fun of your ignorance. I have bolded the huruf for you in Arabic.

Empiree please how do you "mark" in screnshots?

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Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 7:47am On Oct 02, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
Salafs only follow quran and hadith . . rasul follows ALLAH and we follow rasul and ALLAH.

# So, if truly you follow Allah and His Rasul, why do you decline to follow Hadith Thaqalain, Hadith Khalifatain?
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:13am On Oct 02, 2017
AlBaqir:


# So, if truly you follow Allah and His Rasul, why do you decline to follow Hadith Thaqalain, Hadith Khalifatain?
Such hadith do n0t exist. i cross checked the isnad you gave.. the hadith you quoted differs from the one in isnad.. perhaps, drop the isnad of the khalifatan hadith and the taqlain .. people reading will crosscheck it with your own and i wil do the same .. #waiting . . . ALL THAT IS IN THE HADITH IS, AHLU BHAYT .. AND RASUL EVEN EXPLAIN WHO ARE AHLU BHAYT.. Av already given you the isnad on my thread.. check again
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:17am On Oct 02, 2017
AlBaqir:


# You love making fun of your ignorance. I have bolded the huruf for you in Arabic.

Empiree please how do you "mark" in screnshots?
Laughing . . the hadith was translated into english . .then you quote some arabic word in the arabic translation and add it to the english translation .. abi
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:23am On Oct 02, 2017
See . .i dont have your time. .and am n0t doing debate with you. . av given u proof. . to accept or reject is entirely your responsibility. IF YOU THINK ANGEL JUBRIL MADE MISTAKE BY MAKING RASUL PROPHET INSTEAD OF ALI, AND THAT ALI IS ALLAH, AND THAT ALI IS 1ST KHALIFAH, AND THAT ALI IS A SHITE. . stick with it. .na your choice. IF YOU THINK RASUL DIDNT MAKE ABUBAKR HIS KHALIFA AND OTHER SAHABAHS GONE AGAINST ALI AND THUS THEY ARE KUFAR AND THIS LEADS TO YOU HAVING DIFFERENT QURAN AND HADITH. .fine. . stick with it, . . , when you die, you will see the truth. .
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by AlBaqir(m): 8:33am On Oct 02, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
Laughing . . the hadith was translated into english . .then you quote some arabic word in the arabic translation and add it to the english translation .. abi

# Leave story please. You accused me of lying in your 100% ignorance. Now have you seen that "itratih" is in the Hadith?
Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 8:43am On Oct 02, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Leave story please. You accused me of lying in your 100% ignorance. Now have you seen that "itratih" is in the Hadith?
IT IS NOT THERE . . YOUR SHIA RELIGION IS FOR YOU AND MY ISLAM IS FOR ME. "lakum dinukum waliyadin"

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