Mynd44:

Hence why many of these customs still stand. If that man really wants to and he drags your dad a hugher court, he will get his full paternal rights

...you are very funny my guy and young at heart...du u think the court will say..children follow ur father or children change ur surname or children change ur state of origin...I already told you the court acknowledged him as the father of the children..but that he gave birth to them out of wedlock..and since only traditional marriage was attempted..then children are not his his for the keeping, but they resevess him the ryt to visit and care....

bigpicture001:
...you are very funny my guy and young at heart...du u think the court will say..children follow ur father or children change ur surname or children change ur state of origin...I already told you the court acknowledged him as the father of the children..but that he gave birth to them out of wedlock..and since only traditional marriage was attempted..then children are not his his for the keeping, but they resevess him the ryt to visit and care....

Actually, yes the court can give it. It is called custody and the woman won custod. The man did not lose his paternal rights, she has no rights to change their surname or state of origin either.

Mynd44:

Actually, yes the court can give it. It is called custody and the woman won custod. The man did not lose his paternal rights, she has no rights to change their surname or state of origin either.

...the problem with ur thinking ia that u assume nigeria is a complete d same ppl..with same cultures...tradition. Laws, attitude....even as developed as Britain is they never change dia steering driving position to left as is popularised by the americans...

Mynd44:

Actually, yes the court can give it. It is called custody and the woman won custod. The man did not lose his paternal rights, she has no rights to change their surname or state of origin either.

...Laws of the lands make up the laws that government a nation..not all what eight men sitting at abuja...thinks about the people that matter..if that is what is ryt for you..den u have to tell ur eight wise men to abolish sharia law Wich is also inhuman...and also abolish underage marage for small girls and stop hiding and granting stupid practices with excuse of the pineal code

Bagehot:


In yoruba culture, there is a saying "agbojulogun n sera e" (He who is relying on inheriting from his parents is only hurting himself). If you have the mindset of inheriting from your parents, then you are a failure.

I'm not surprised. Yorubas are naturally hypocritical in nature. Always playing ostrich and hiding from truths. Keep it up

Josephjnr:
Yes! Most Africans consider female children worthless and not actually part of the family. However, he should respect his father's will for the man have the right to even give him(the first child) nothing and give all to the daughters.

Individual family in many such cultures are changing the system. Reasonable and informed fathers in many such culture are breaking the taboo and sharing estates to female daughters especially if the man had wealth.
This sense of entitlement has made many first born sons unprogressive in life.

Idiotic lazy man. I am an IBO woman and my properties will be shared among my children who are both genders, if his sisters are well to do and he is a poor man, whom he still go to this sisters to raise him up.
In stead of him to appreciate his dad for such he is disobeying his order, let him continue he will son join him where he is very soon. Lazy pig, if he is wise he would have at lest tell the lawyer to redistribute his own share to the sisters because he hope to hustle for his own.

What if he gives birth to only female children. Will he be happy if his uncles deprive his children from him properties?

He killed his father just to inherit all the properties but he failed. his father is wiser than him.

bigpicture001:
....no even uncle chase a gal away from her father's house when her mum and herself are still alive. no village traditional ruler will accept that. yes they will eventually take the property of thier brother but that is when the gal marries away and the wife of the deceased is dead.

Well experience has proved otherwise.

If what you say above is right that means people are taking advantage of culture to do the wrong things (things that are even wrong traditionally)

Some culture/tradition were jettisoned long ago due to civilization.
Only the miserly ones would stick to an inheritance sharing norm where only the male and or the first son would benefit.
After all, killing of twin children was in practice before civilization abolished the barbarism.
Culture is dynamic.
Eschew greediness!

NtoAkwaIbom:


can we place a bet on this ?
say if I am wrong I de-activate my account and if u are wrong u do same ?

then we will bring supreme Court judgement to determine who is right and who is wrong ?

in Benin A father cannot will out his last living abode, it is even contained in the wills law.

Lies. My friend's Dad disobeyed tradition and willed his abode equally. He was a typical Bini man who believed gender should not depict one's fate. He trained all his Children irrespective of their gender.
Times have changed.... A lot of persons I know have done similar. I think you need an update. Gone are those days. I'll advice you work hard if you are the first son so you don't end in shock.
I for one will share my property equally among my Children irrespective of their Gender or Position it's not going to be a surprise to them. The useless tradition made First Sons very LAZY and irresponsible. Who wants a lazy Son?

I would have said i read few year ago that the Igbos have abolished the old system of women are not entitled from their father's will? Papa will Rest in Peace very well. Emmy is simply a Thief. You are waiting for inherittance, the women will get their own, so said your father. Emmy, there nothing you can do. Emmy, becareful with the grave you have turned your pray ground becos your father will punish you for not allowing to Rest in Peace.

frenzyduchess:
We are talking about who is qualified to inherit based on gender you are talking about who is from such home, ode. You are not entitled, or have not heard of being cut out of a will or people deciding to give their wealth to charity?, you need to broaden your scope .if you like be sleeping for life, who the fvck cares?, next time take your entitled self off my mention.

Nearly everyone condemned the dude for refusing his female siblings their fair share irregardless. Your notion of a guy solely depending on his father's wealth as being lazy is quite different from my notion of a guy waiting for his own share of wealth while still working to expand the wealth base of his father. Not every entitled person is lazy, that's your wrong notion I was tryna correct but you're being hot headed to let it sink in. I find your level of reasoning quite disturbing little miss.

TimeMod1:
Nearly everyone condemned the dude for refusing his female siblings their fair share irregardless. Your notion of a guy solely depending on his father's wealth as being lazy is quite different from my notion of a guy waiting for his own share of wealth while still working to expand the wealth base of his father. Not every entitled person is lazy, that's your wrong notion I was tryna correct but you're being hot headed to let it sink in. I find your level of reasoning quite disturbing little miss.

and I find your stupidity quite amazing old fool ,only a fool like you will not know that a man who has his own will not be so bitter to share what he didn't work for with his siblings hiding under tradition to conceal his greed, so old man sit your wrinkled ass down and stfu , grey haired motherfvcking troll

frenzyduchess:
and I find your stupidity quite amazing old fool

You obviously lack sanity. They say you always go crazy. Lucky you!

Sharap old troll ,sit your wrinkled ass down

TimeMod1:
You obviously lack sanity. They say you always go crazy. Lucky you!

bigpicture001:
...my problem with the judgement is that it enters into the igbo traditional culture too ddeep and leave no space for traditional laws to take its place... make a survey of the judges of the supreme court and yo will find no igbo person dia...does it mean,they understand and should make laws for a large majority tribe in nigeria without thier concept...? a law that defines the people....who protested against laws against female genital mutilation..no one,who protested against law against drinking of husbands dead body water to prove ur innocence after his death by the widow..nobody..but to go deep into what makes a people and tell them u know it more than them is wrong...every other tribes law should also b abolished so we all become american...who just the ibgos...now I understand nnamdi kanu better

Who told you there are no Igbo people serving as judges in the Supreme Court of Nigeria? Justice (Mrs.) Mary Ukaego Nzenwa Odili (who is the wife of former Rivers State Governor Peter Odili) is from where? She is from Amudi Obizi, Ezinihitte-Mbaise Local Government Area of Imo State.

Justice Nwali Sylvester Ngwuta of the Supreme Court is from Amofia-Ukawu, Onicha local government area of Ebonyi State.

Justice Chima Centus Nweze also of the Supreme Court, is from Enugu State. Please cross-check properly before you start making inaccurate statements.

frenzyduchess:
Sharap old troll ,sit your wrinkled ass down

crazy ass, insults is all you can offer now huh?. I thought a gold fish has no brain untill I met you. How fourtunate that something most cherished in a babe without a brain suffers the consequences. I Can only imaine how much you've suffered.

DeRay98:


Individual family in many such cultures are changing the system. Reasonable and informed fathers in many such culture are breaking the taboo and sharing estates to female daughters especially if the man had wealth.
This sense of entitlement has made many first born sons unprogressive in life.

You are completely right.

Hahahahaha , no fool, I am civil to sane people not trolls like you. What an old goat like you deserves is nothing but insults, BTW that line is over used na, isn't that all you tell ladies you have altercations with? When your frozen brain wakes up, think of something else ,hahhahahahaha . Egocentric fool claiming old on a faceless forum to over compensate for his emasculated reality, Mumu²

TimeMod1:
crazy ass, insults is all you can offer now huh?. I thought a gold fish has no brain untill I met you. How fourtunate that something most cherished in a babe without a brain suffers the consequences. I Can only imaine how much you've suffered.

frenzyduchess:
Hahahahaha , no fool, I am civil to sane people not trolls like you. What an old goat like you deserves is nothing but insults, BTW that line is over used na, isn't that all you tell ladies you have altercations with? When your frozen brain wakes up, think of something else ,hahhahahahaha . Egocentric fool claiming old on a faceless forum to over compensate for his emasculated reality, Mumu²

Lol. You are going crazy yet again. Your troubled zone been lunching you deep into insanity. Last I checked, never had I said I was as old as your dad nor a fool as he is, even though you appear as much a product of a begottenfool.
Pls, don't make me damage you while setting your hopes several years back...Don't push me.
If a bastard has an ear let her hear!

Your father, your grand father ,your ancestors are the fools,how can one be a bastard and still have a father ,Hahahahaha, olodo rabata , incoherent fool stop contradicting yourself ode.you come online to jump on people's mention to pacify your sad life and draw them into your bitterness by provoking them just so you can get an emotional release, you are nothing but a psychopath who feeds of making other people angry so you can feel better, that's why trolling is your hobby.but do you know you can feel better without having to make others angry?, I know you have a deep rooted problem judging from replies to other monikers you seem like someone who had a troubled upbringing, but it's not too late, it can be corrected. All I wish is that the universe sends redemption to your path, goodluck

TimeMod1:
Lol. You are going crazy yet again. Your troubled zone been lunching you deep into insanity. Last I checked, never had I said I was as old as your dad nor a fool as he is, even though you appear as much a product of a begottenfool.
Pls, don't make me damage you while setting your hopes several years back...Don't push me.
If a bastard has an ear let her hear!

Stupid boy. Don't go and work for your own money. Keep depending on your fathers property.

frenzyduchess:
Your father, your grand father ,your ancestors are the fools,how can one be a bastard and still have a father ,Hahahahaha, olodo rabata , incoherent fool stop contradicting yourself ode.you come online to jump on people's mention to pacify your sad life and draw them into your bitterness by provoking them just so you can get an emotional release, you are nothing but a psychopath who feeds of making other people angry so you can feel better, that's why trolling is your hobby.but do you know you can feel better without having to make others angry?, I know you have a deep rooted problem judging from replies to other monikers you seem like someone who had a troubled upbringing, but it's not too late, it can be corrected. All I wish is that the universe sends redemption to your path, goodluck

Your insanity is full blown, you must be quarantined to save the world and I'm well assured that sane minds are a long pole far off from being in contact with you.
No matter how a bitch you become of yourself to your lecturers, your education is already a waste. Little wonder you symbolize dumbness . Good enough, you're a freebie to your lecturers.
By definition, a bastard is an illegitimate offspring of an unmarried parents. By Implication, your father wandered away leaving your mother to whóre alone all by her ass. So, the good news for you is, a bastard has/had a father but whether or not he's alive behooves you to find out.

A warning to all parents; Never send a bitch to school, she drains your monies down the hole. A bitch do not know the meaning of a bastard but she sure knows the true meaning of a dick. Lol!!!

The rest siblings should be very careful with him, someone like him can do anything to have those properties.

NtoAkwaIbom:


as regards the IGBO custom it was seen as discriminatory to the women and repugnant to natural justice.
but the culture of the Ijio-Ogbe being the exclusivity of the firstborn still holds sway in Benin to this day...
and a law has even been enacted to take away the courts power in that regard.

Any law can b challenged

Cordis92:
This Emmy's character was the reason the man willed some properties to his daughters. A responsible son should respect his father's decision regarding his property. Poverty is cause of the protest. I think he should go work harder and smarter and forget about his father's properties after all his father labored to acquire them.

Are you studying medicine or any related course?

Yarnvibes:
​A Nigerian man has left many people in shock after refusing to obey his late father's instruction on how to share his properties because he included his female children as beneficiaries.

The late Gabriel Okwukogwu may not be resting in peace in his grave after all, as he was said to have attracted the anger of his first son, simply known as Emmy for sharing his properties among his seven children including the four women in Anambra State.

It was gathered that an infuriated Emmy reportedly went to his father's grave to tell him that he will not comply with the will he prepared when he was alive. The family is from Orlu in Imo State but stays at G.M.O Road in Ogbaru area of Onitsha metropolitan city in Anambra.

It was gathered that Emmy who resides in Lagos returned after the death and burial of his late father. After the burial the late father's lawyer called the members of the family, presented their late father's will and read it to the children for implementation. However, trouble was said to have started after the counsel got through reading the will and Emmy discovered that their late father shared his properties to his children including the women among them. It was gathered that the late Okwukogu had properties both in Onitsha and Owerri which he shared equally among the children not minding the gender status.

It was gathered that when the lawyer finished reading the will to the children, Emmy got angry and declared that the will did not come from their father because he really understood the culture and tradition as observed in Igbo land.

It was gathered that the culture did not recognise women because it was expected that they will get married to their husbands and therefore were not entitled to inherit any property from their family. Thus Emmy insisted that the culture and tradition will be applied in the sharing of the properties.

An infuriated Emmy reportedly left the meeting and headed to their family house in Orlu, went to his father's grave and protested; that he will not comply with his purported will because he did not comply with the laid down customs and tradition in the land.

It was gathered that Emmy's decision to reject the will was causing serious problem in the family as the women in question threatened to fight for their rights as contained in the will rejected by their eldest brother.

When P.M.EXPRESS spoke to some Igbo leaders concerning the incident, some spoke against the sharing and declared that Emmy was right because women werr not entitled to inherit family properties according to tradition. Others said that it was the old practice and the properties in question were not family houses which the women will never inherit according to tradition.

It was however not certain how the matter will be resolved because the will was regarded as a valid document that must be complied with despite any perceived defects.

http://fabinfos.com/nigerian-man-fights-late-father-grave-including-female-children-will/

Lalasticlala Ishilove Mynd44 Seun Dominique

Am shocked!
Cos in Islam even a young lady of 13 can inherit her father estate...
She can inherit half of what male child may inherit

This Emma is a useless First son Your Own sister's nothing person no go hear for this world instead of him to go and work for his own and have what to give his own children this man is a FOOL...

wit the way he is doin thins, why won't father the property 2 his female children.

NtoAkwaIbom:


in yorubaland a fada cannot will his last living abode to anoda... it blongs to d firstborn...

Says how in Yoruba land